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Bulls vs. Bears
MPC Markets
101 episodes
3 days ago
"Bulls vs Bears" is the essential weekly podcast from MPC Markets, offering an expert breakdown of the latest trends, insights, and analyses from our MPC Weekend Edition. Each episode, we delve into the dynamic world of stocks, commodities, and global markets, bringing you a comprehensive perspective on the pressing issues shaping the investment landscape.
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"Bulls vs Bears" is the essential weekly podcast from MPC Markets, offering an expert breakdown of the latest trends, insights, and analyses from our MPC Weekend Edition. Each episode, we delve into the dynamic world of stocks, commodities, and global markets, bringing you a comprehensive perspective on the pressing issues shaping the investment landscape.
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Bulls vs. Bears
EP100: Trump Strikes in Venezula...Where Next?

In this episode, the hosts cover a wide scope of market themes ranging from geopolitics and commodities to sector-level equities and forward-looking macro drivers. Discussion begins with geopolitical flashpoints such as Trump-era tensions, Venezuela’s transition risks, and Greenland’s strategic minerals, before shifting to equity markets where defence, AI infrastructure and resources stand out as structural beneficiaries. Analysts break down ASX heavyweights across healthcare, tech, infrastructure and banks, highlighting valuation dispersion, earnings resilience and dividend appeal. The conversation also ties in MPC’s 2026 Market Outlook, outlining how AI capex, tariffs, higher-for-longer rates and a persistent geopolitical risk premium will shape volatility and opportunity. Lastly, metals and energy markets are dissected — from record gold and silver to copper strength and lithium momentum — with a focus on how electrification, defence spending and supply constraints feed into pricing.


Key Takeaways


  1. Geopolitics is now a core return driver — Venezuela, tariffs and defence realignments are shaping risk premia rather than short-term noise.
  2. Defence, energy and mining equities are gaining traction, with stocks like DroneShield benefitting from rising US military spending signals.
  3. 2026 will be fragmented but investable, with AI-driven capex supporting growth despite higher-for-longer rates and tariff friction.
  4. AI, data-centres and power generation are multi-year themes, driving commodities such as uranium, copper and lithium.
  5. Gold & Silver remain strong trades amid safe-haven demand and rate uncertainty, with both printing fresh highs.

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3 days ago
44 minutes 20 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP99: Central bank divergence & “choose your own” Economic Data

In this episode, the hosts discuss the current state of the markets, focusing on central bank policies, economic data, and sector performances. They delve into the implications of AI and quantum computing, the gold and silver markets, and provide predictions for 2026. The conversation highlights the divergence in central bank strategies and the potential for stagflation, while also addressing inflation data and its impact on market sentiment. The episode concludes with reflections on the year and expectations for the future.takeawaysThe market is experiencing central bank divergence, impacting economic data interpretation.AI continues to be a significant investment theme, with quantum computing showing promise.Gold and silver are viewed as strong trades going into 2026 due to ongoing economic uncertainties.Sector performance has varied, with materials and healthcare showing resilience.Inflation data is being questioned for its accuracy and relevance to real economic conditions.Predictions for 2026 include potential stagflation and continued volatility in markets.Investors are advised to be cautious with high-margin stocks and sectors.The importance of understanding credit default swaps in assessing market risk is emphasized.The hosts express optimism about the future of AI and its commercialization.Overall market sentiment remains cautious as investors await clearer economic signals.

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3 weeks ago
35 minutes 11 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP98: Who needs AI Stocks? We’ve Got Silver

In this episode of Bulls vs Bears, Mark and Jonathan discuss various market dynamics, including the impact of quantum computing on cryptocurrencies, the surge in silver prices, and the shifting focus from banks to materials in investment strategies. They analyze the retail sector's performance, the flow of money into the markets, and the outlook for commodities like silver and copper. The conversation also touches on geopolitical factors affecting oil markets and concludes with predictions for market sentiment heading into 2026.

Takeaways

• Quantum computing may impact Bitcoin's encryption security.

• Silver has surged significantly, outperforming gold.

• Investors are shifting focus from banks to materials.

• Retail sector performance is not aligning with market expectations.

• Money flows into the market are strong, indicating potential growth.

• Copper is experiencing a significant rally, often overlooked.

• The lithium market is poised for another boom.

• Geopolitical tensions are influencing oil market dynamics.

• Market sentiment is neutral despite new highs in equities.

• The ASX presents opportunities if investors recognize value.


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1 month ago
51 minutes 24 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP97: RATE CUT “HOPES” KEEP MARKET AT SKY HIGH VALUATIONS

In this episode of Bulls vs Bears, the hosts discuss the current market outlook, focusing on rate cut expectations and the implications of a potential new Fed chair. They delve into the rise of robotics and AI strategies, highlighting government involvement and market potential. The conversation shifts to the dynamics of the tech market, including developments in AI and quantum computing, and their impact on security and investing. The episode concludes with insights into commodities and market trends, emphasizing the importance of understanding these evolving technologies in the financial landscape.

Takeaways

  • Rate cut expectations are high, influencing market sentiment.
  • Robotics and AI are becoming central to government strategies.
  • The tech market is stabilizing, but caution is advised.
  • Quantum computing could revolutionize AI and security.
  • Nvidia's market dominance may face challenges from new technologies.
  • Total addressable markets are often speculative and uncertain.
  • AI's growth may encounter limitations in the near future.
  • Investors need to adapt to rapidly changing tech landscapes.
  • Understanding quantum computing is crucial for future investments.
  • Commodities like silver and uranium are showing strong performance.
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1 month ago
41 minutes 9 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP96: IS OpenAI the Posterchild of AI, or the AI bubble

This episode of Bulls vs Bears takes a deep dive into whether OpenAI is the genuine poster child of AI innovation or the face of an emerging AI bubble, using recent HSBC and Financial Times analysis to question the maths behind its $7 trillion infrastructure ambitions and funding model. The hosts contrast OpenAI’s growth-at-all-costs, consumer-focused strategy with Anthropic’s more disciplined, enterprise-focused approach, and explore broader risks across the AI and infrastructure ecosystem, including Nvidia, Oracle, TPUs vs GPUs, and the growing reliance on debt-funded data centre expansion. They also cover the Thanksgiving “Turkey trap” in markets, AI’s role in amplifying narrative-driven moves, shifts in ASX and commodity names, and signs of stress and structural change in China’s growth model.​


Is OpenAI the poster child of AI innovation or an AI bubble? HSBC/FT numbers suggest a huge capex, power and monetisation shortfall even under Sam Altman’s most optimistic forecasts.​


OpenAI vs Anthropic: consumer “free drinks for everyone” pricing and data grab compared with Anthropic’s higher-margin, privacy-focused enterprise LLM model that appears far more monetisation-ready.​


Bubble risks in the wider AI stack: concerns over Nvidia’s rising inventories and unpaid chip bills, rumours and leverage worries around Oracle, and whether Google TPUs could erode Nvidia GPU dominance.​


Macro and markets: Thanksgiving low-liquidity “Turkey trap” rally on recycled Fed cut headlines, extreme moves in small caps, and why the hosts see this as vulnerable to a sharp reversal.​


Global cross-currents: ASX standouts like WiseTech and Ramsay, precious metals strength on a weaker USD, and worrying signals from China’s collapsing factory investment and softer coal/iron ore demand.​

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1 month ago
42 minutes 33 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
Bulls vs Bears EP95: Tech Stocks smashed as Investors dig deeper into Nvidia results

The conversation delves into the current state of Bitcoin and recent trends in the cryptocurrency market, highlighting significant price movements and sell-off patterns.

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1 month ago
35 minutes

Bulls vs. Bears
Bulls vs Bears Episode 93 : Rate Cuts vs Reality

Welcome to Bulls vs Bears – Episode 93, where Jonathan and Kai break down another huge week in markets.
From rate-cut fantasies colliding with economic reality, to AI-bubble cracks forming, to lithium’s fourth boom cycle, the team dives deep into what’s really driving sentiment. They also unpack silver’s breakout, insider selling at DroneShield, the Bitcoin halving cycle, and how money is rotating out of expensive AI names into value and healthcare.

Plus:
• ASX sentiment hits extreme fear despite barely pulling back
• Why the S&P rotation matters more than the headline index
• The new “Buy the Dip” structured product and how it works
• Mosaic updates + alpha portfolio performance
• A quick recap of Jonathan and Kai’s latest appearance on The Call

If you want clear market insights without the noise — this episode is for you.

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1 month ago
42 minutes 20 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP93: Corporate Lay-offs signal weakness in US Labour market

In this conversation, Mark and Jonathan from MPC Markets share their bearish outlook on the market, discussing recent trends and reactions observed on social media. They analyze the performance of the NASDAQ and the Australian market, questioning the potential market reactions if the downward trend continues.

takeaways

• Mark expresses a strong bearish sentiment towards the market.

• Social media reactions indicate heightened anxiety among investors.

• Despite recent downturns, the NASDAQ remains up for the month.

• The Australian market shows a slight decline but is not drastically affected.

• Mark questions the implications of current market pressures.

• He highlights the disconnect between market performance and investor sentiment.

• The conversation reflects on the volatility of market reactions.

• Mark's insights suggest a cautious approach to investing now.

• The discussion emphasizes the importance of analyzing market trends.

• Mark's perspective encourages listeners to stay informed about market dynamics.


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2 months ago
51 minutes 7 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP92: Mega-cap stocks deliver earnings

Amazon crushed earnings on the back of AWS—but what does that mean for AI-led infrastructure and the rest of the MAG-7? In Episode 92, Jonathan and Kai dive into a mixed week for equities, Japan’s booming Nikkei, Australia’s CPI shock, the Fed’s “hawkish cut,” and a powerful move in uranium and gold. Plus: Kai’s thoughts on CSL after the sell-off and Jonathan’s Trade of the Week—Ballard Mining (BM1).

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2 months ago
40 minutes 5 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP91: Tesla is not a car company (in future)

In this episode of Bulls vs Bears, Mark and Jonathan discuss the latest market trends, focusing on Tesla's earnings, the dynamics of the gold market, and innovations in the mining industry. They explore the implications of Netflix's strategy in the streaming market and the potential of AI technologies. The conversation also touches on investor sentiment and predictions for the upcoming economic landscape, emphasizing the importance of understanding marketmovements and the underlying economic factors.

takeaways

Tesla is evolving beyond just a car company.

Gold's recent volatility reflects investor sentiment.

Silex's rise indicates potential breakthroughs in uranium technology.

Netflix's gaming strategy could redefine its market position.

Tesla's energy sector is showing unexpected growth.

AI technologies are becoming increasingly relevant in market dynamics.

Investor behaviour is influenced by market trends and news cycles.

Warren Buffett's investment strategies provide valuable insights.

Private credit issues could pose risks to the financial sector.

Market predictions should consider both historical trends and current data.


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2 months ago
48 minutes 14 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP90: Be Alert, but not Alarmed.... Yet

In this episode, Mark and Kai discuss the current state ofthe markets, focusing on the banking sector's concerns, the rally in commodities and precious metals, and strategies for managing equity portfolios. They also delve into corporate earnings, digital assets, and the implications of AI on future market predictions. The conversation emphasizes the importance of planning and being prepared for market fluctuations.

takeaways

The banking sector is showingsigns of concern due to credit provisions.

Gold and silver prices areexperiencing significant rallies.

Investors should review theirportfolios regularly and plan ahead.

Credit spreads widening canindicate potential market issues.

The junior mining sector isgaining traction in the market.

Dollar cost averaging is arecommended strategy for investing.

AI is playing a crucial role inmarket analysis and predictions.

Market corrections can beanticipated, and having a plan is essential.

Corporate earnings can stabilizemarket movements during earnings seasons.

Understanding market trends andbeing prepared is key to successful investing.

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2 months ago
37 minutes 39 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP89: Bullion Boom: Why Precious Metals continue to have swagger

In this episode, the hosts discuss the latest trends in the financial markets, focusing on gold and silver prices, economic indicators, and the implications of Japan's new leadership. They delve into the risks associated with private credit and the current state of equity markets, while also exploring emerging commodities like antimony. The conversation emphasizes the importance of risk management in trading and concludes with predictions forthe upcoming week.

Takeaways

Gold hit 4000 this week, marking a significant milestone.

Silver briefly reached 51, showcasing volatility in precious metals.

Economic indicators are showing mixed signals, affecting market sentiment.

Japan's new female prime minister faces a challenging economic landscape.

Private credit poses risks similar to mortgage-backed securities from the GFC.

Equities are currently resilient despite economic uncertainties.

Copper prices are on the rise, indicating strong demand.

Antimony is emerging as a commodity of interest for investors.

Effective risk management is crucial for successful trading strategies.

Valuation discrepancies between CBA and JP Morgan raise concerns.

 

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3 months ago
49 minutes 59 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP88: The Stock market is not the Economy

In this episode, Mark discusses the current state of thestock market in relation to the economy, emphasizing the disconnect between the two. He explores the impact of the AI revolution, the resilience of the healthcare sector, and Tesla's innovations. The conversation also covers the implications of the recent government shutdown, the performance of precious metals, and overall market sentiment, providing insights into future trends and investment strategies.

takeaways

The stock market often does notreflect the actual economy.

AI is driving significant changesin market dynamics.

The healthcare sector is showingsigns of recovery and resilience.

Tesla is at the forefront ofself-driving technology advancements.

Government shutdowns can haveserious economic repercussions.

Precious metals have seensubstantial gains recently.

Market sentiment is currentlyskewed towards extreme greed.

Historical trends may not apply intoday's market environment.

Investors should remain cautiousamidst market optimism.

The upcoming earnings season willbe crucial for market direction.

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3 months ago
31 minutes 5 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
Ep. 96 – US Goes Nuclear for Data Centers

Jonathan and Kai dive into the week’s biggest market moves: the US push for uranium to power AI, Santos’ $36b takeover collapse, Telix’s FDA resubmission, and Paladin’s capital raise. They also cover Micron’s surge on storage demand, Nvidia’s slowdown, and the broader AI hardware race. Commodities remain mixed, and with Fed cuts fueling momentum, both hosts stay bullish heading into next week.

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3 months ago
33 minutes 13 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP85: Oracle Earnings Sends AI Hyperscaling Thematic Sky-Rocketing

In this episode, Mark and Jonathan discuss the recent fluctuations in the market, focusing on the significant payrolls revision and its implications. They highlight Oracle's impressive performance and its impact on the market, whilealso addressing concerns about stagflation and economic indicators. The conversation shifts to engineering contracts and their influence on stock prices, followed by a discussion on commodities and cryptocurrency trends. The hosts share insights on stock highlights, market sentiment, and investment strategies, concluding with predictions for the upcoming week.

Takeaways

Oracle's earnings report significantly boosted market sentiment.

The payrolls revision indicates a troubling economic trend.

Stagflation is becoming a pressing concern for investors.

Engineering contracts are driving stock prices higher.

Gold and silver are showing strong performance amid economic uncertainty.

The stock market's reaction to economic indicators is often delayed.

Investment strategies should focus on capital efficiency.

Market predictions are influenced by political pressures.

Crypto trends are evolving with institutional interest.

Understanding market sentiment is crucial for investment decisions.


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4 months ago
46 minutes 42 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP84: bulls pray to the labor market gods into pivotal payrolls number

Mark & reviewed a week of near-flat US indexes, aside from ASX volatility from GDP data and a pivotal antitrust decision favoring Apple and Google. Commentators noted the “bad news is good news” attitude, as weak job numbers fueled expectations of rate cuts, while credit remained abundant and correlations between assets broke down.ASX banks dropped then bounced; Domino’s and mortgage finance stocks like COG surged, reflecting strong lending growth.S&P and NASDAQ shifted quickly from sell to strong buy signals; gold and silver miners rallied with Newmont singled out for outperformance — the only gold stock in the S&P 500.Salesforce warned of enterprise cuts in AI spending, while Broadcom beat earnings and rumors emerged of new chips to rival Nvidia. Netflix also appears to have bottomed.Strategic themes included leveraged gold/silver miner trades, bullish outlook for silver based on the historic gold-silver ratio, and Bitcoin’s merits as a non-printable, inflation hedge asset.Hosts were cautiously bearish heading into payrolls, citing risk of surprises, widespread overvaluation, and government policy uncertainty. Seasonality, safe-haven flows, and geopolitics remain critical watchpoints for market direction in the coming weeks.

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4 months ago
48 minutes 32 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP83: Valuations Flashing Red into September

In this episode, Mark and Jonathan discuss the current state of the markets, focusing on the recent earnings season, stock performance, and the implications of AI on tech valuations. They also delve into the commodities market, particularly uranium, and share insights on market sentiment and future predictions. The conversation highlights key stock recommendations and the importance of understanding market dynamics.

Takeaways

  • It's been a positive week overall in the markets.
  • The Russell tends to outperform during periods of lower interest rates.
  • Small caps have shown significant growth this earnings season.
  • Nvidia continues to be a major player in the tech sector.
  • Palantir's valuation is noteworthy in the current market.
  • Pride can be a dangerous trait in trading.
  • The 'rule of 40' is a critical metric for evaluating tech stocks.
  • Market sentiment is influenced by various economic indicators.
  • Chinese car manufacturers are becoming competitive in the global market.
  • Gold and silver are showing signs of potential breakout.


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4 months ago
48 minutes 20 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
Bulls vs Bears EP82: Tech Stalls as Seasonal Weakness Beckons

This episode of Bulls versus Bears (weekend edition) features Mark from MPC Markets and guest Kai Chen, discussing recent market events during earnings season. The main focus is on tech sector weakness, overvaluation concerns, AI monetization challenges, and seasonal stock market tendencies. The hosts analyze recent trends in the US and Australian markets, highlighting rapid market recoveries after drawdowns, dramatic moves in major stocks like CSL and WiseTech, and shifting flows between sectors. They cover the infrastructure buildout needed for AI (“picks and shovels” like data centers, copper, and water), the defensive nature of healthcare and financials, and the significance of upcoming earnings, notably Nvidia. The episode also critiques the performance of financial analysts, discusses defensive investment strategies, and reviews unique features of the current investment climate.

Key Takeaways

  • Tech Sector Concerns: A recent MIT study found that 95% of companies surveyed aren't making money on AI, highlighting monetization challenges and raising fears within the tech sector, particularly among smaller firms.
  • Overvaluation Indicators: Multiple valuation metrics (Shiller CAPE, price-to-book, price-to-sales, market cap to GDP) suggest US equity markets are substantially overvalued.
  • Market Rotation: There is a noticeable shift from big tech into more defensive sectors, such as healthcare, financials, and consumer staples, both in the US and Australia.
  • Rapid Bounce-backs: Since 2015, recoveries from major pullbacks in the S&P 500 have been much faster (average 127 days to break even) compared to historical norms.
  • Seasonal Weakness: September is statistically the worst month for equities, and there are multiple risk signals (high margin debt, low credit spreads, upcoming rate cuts).
  • AI and Efficiency: While AI is broadly adopted and drives efficiency, this cost-saving is not easily visible on company balance sheets or in revenue, complicating the narrative around “monetization.”
  • Hedging Strategies: The hosts advocate a short-term hedge using market insurance due to volatility, with low cost attributed to the VIX being at multi-year lows.
  • Australian Market Critiques: Observations on stocks like JB Hi-Fi and CSL illustrate how high expectations and passive ETF flows have amplified volatility; active fund managers and analysts are criticized for missing big moves.
  • AI Infrastructure Buildout: The “picks and shovels” phase of AI—expansion of data centers, related resource demand for copper, water, and power—is seen as the main area of opportunity before AI consumer products mature.
  • Upcoming Earnings Importance: Nvidia’s results are seen as highly influential, potentially providing a crucial boost or further pressure on sentiment.

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4 months ago
43 minutes 18 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
EP80: Trump brings home semiconductor manufacturing with a big threat

In this episode of MPC Markets Bulls vs Bears, Mark and Jonathan discuss the implications of Trump's semiconductor manufacturing threat, the recent performance of the ASX, and the challenges it faces. They analyze market reactions to economic indicators, particularly focusing on tech stocks and their influence on the market. The conversation also delves into Trump's economic strategy, the trends in commodities, and potential trade opportunities in gold and mining stocks. Finally, they share their predictions for market sentiment and performance in the near future.

Takeaways

  • Trump's semiconductor threat aims to bring manufacturing back to the US.
  • The ASX faced challenges with a recent trading mishap.
  • Market reactions are influenced by economic indicators and consumer sentiment.
  • Tech stocks like Apple and Nvidia are pivotal in market performance.
  • Trump's economic strategy may involve manipulating employment numbers.
  • Commodities, especially gold, are showing signs of recovery.
  • Barton Gold presents a significant investment opportunity with high potential returns.
  • Market sentiment is cautious, with predictions of volatility ahead.
  • The financial sector is experiencing a slowdown after a strong run.
  • Analysts are struggling to provide accurate insights in the current market environment.

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5 months ago
42 minutes 1 second

Bulls vs. Bears
Episode 79: Bull run looking tired despite outstanding MAG7 earnings

In this episode of MPC Markets Bulls vs Bears, the hosts discuss the current state of the markets, focusing on the busy earnings season, stock highlights from both the ASX and US markets, and the impact of recent events on the copper market. They analyze the performance of tech giants like Microsoft and Meta, delve into commodities market trends, and provide insights on upcoming earnings reports. The conversation also touches on the fear and greed index, reflecting market sentiment, and concludes with an update on Clarity Pharmaceuticals and its market position.takeaways

  • The earnings season has been extraordinarily busy, with significant market movements.
  • There is a noticeable difference in enthusiasm between ASX and US stocks.
  • Copper supply is diminishing, impacting market dynamics.
  • Microsoft has regained its competitive edge in the tech sector.
  • The commodities market is experiencing a downturn, particularly in copper and lithium.
  • Upcoming earnings reports from major companies could influence market trends.
  • The fear and greed index indicates a shift in market sentiment.
  • Clarity Pharmaceuticals is showing potential despite high short positions.
  • Retail investors are actively participating in the market, buying the dip.
  • Market predictions suggest a cautious outlook for the coming weeks.

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5 months ago
48 minutes 22 seconds

Bulls vs. Bears
"Bulls vs Bears" is the essential weekly podcast from MPC Markets, offering an expert breakdown of the latest trends, insights, and analyses from our MPC Weekend Edition. Each episode, we delve into the dynamic world of stocks, commodities, and global markets, bringing you a comprehensive perspective on the pressing issues shaping the investment landscape.