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California Wine Country
Steve Jaxon & Dan Berger
88 episodes
1 week ago
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California Wine Country
Barry Herbst with Sparkling Wines
2 weeks ago
50 minutes 14 seconds

California Wine Country
Gamay Beaujolais with Dan Berger
2 weeks ago
15 minutes 35 seconds

California Wine Country
Garry Brooks, Brooks Note Winery
3 weeks ago
42 minutes 33 seconds

California Wine Country
Bettina from Laurel Glen Vineyard
4 weeks ago
43 minutes 47 seconds

California Wine Country
Shared Notes Wines, plus Coffee too
1 month ago
38 minutes 49 seconds

California Wine Country
Sonoma County Wine Library
1 month ago
17 minutes 52 seconds

California Wine Country
James MacPhail
1 month ago
28 minutes 45 seconds

California Wine Country
Adam Lee with Clarice Wines
1 month ago
47 minutes 10 seconds

California Wine Country
Jake Lachowitzer of Banshee Wines
1 month ago
49 minutes 15 seconds

California Wine Country
Elaine Wines
Elaine, the owner of Elaine Wines is our guest today on California Wine Country with Dan Berger and Daedalus Howell. She started her winery after a career as an biotech intellectual property attorney. Dan Berger discovered these wines just by tasting them at an event. He was excited to find a Chardonnay that was not overdone and that smelled and tasted like Chardonnay. It is an older style of making Chardonnay that appeals to people like Dan who remember when that style was prevalent. Elaine Wines is a small winery but has already earned a bunch of awards.

This first one for tasting is the 2023 Chardonnay, the youngest one that Elaine brought. All of the Chardonnays are made with fruit from her vineyard. She has three acres with one acre of Chard and two of Pinot Noir. Dan detects a little bit of dried pineapple character and the oak is very subtle. The vineyard is at high elevation and Dan says the wine matches the smell of the vineyard. There are fir trees and oaks nearby which influence the vineyard. Dan also appreciates the good acidity. The vines are 25 feet from their house.

Before Elaine moved to California, she was a biotech patent attorney, with a background in molecular and micro-biology. She got an online certificate in winemaking from UC Davis, before she moved from North Carolina. Elaine found a custom crush where she was not obligated to meet a tonnage minimum, which allowed her to start making wine with a small production. She found a community of helpful people in California, who work in wine. That is uniform throughout most wine regions in the world, says Dan Berger.

Dan says that Prohibition may have ended in 1933 but it was the 1960s before winemaking woke up in the US, in California mostly.
Chardonnays
The second Chardonnay they taste came from the same grapes, but the first had newer barrels and the 2022 was made in one single barrel that had been used once before. That is generally considered 50% new. She only made 23 cases of this, because they had a very low yield and she had promised some grapes to another winemaker. This wine won a Double Gold at the San Francisco Chronicle wine tasting. Dan says that the problem with a lot of Chardonnay today is that it has to be big and rich. This is the other side of the spectrum of types of Chard.

A lot of people making Chardonnay are trying to make a wine that they think will sell. Elaine, on the other hand, came into this without that notion at all. She just lets the vineyard do what it can do, and then handle it in a way to bring that out. Don’t serve it too cold, because the flavors won’t come out. What’s more, this wine is a 2022 and it has had enough time to reach full maturity. She likes to do "as little as I can" and treat it gently.
Pinot Noir
The next tasting is a Pinot Noir that earned 99 points and a Double Gold from the American Fine Wine Competition, and Gold Medals all over the place. Dan says that the judges like it when the dominant flavor is fruit not oak. Dan describes the flavor of beets that is hiding in the wine.
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2 months ago
48 minutes 22 seconds

California Wine Country
Montagne Russe
2 months ago
48 minutes 39 seconds

California Wine Country
Wilson Artisan Wines
2 months ago
36 minutes 50 seconds

California Wine Country
Nicola Pellacani of Saintsbury Winery
Nicola Pellacani of Saintsbury Winery joins Dan Berger and Daedalus Howell on California Wine Country today.

Dan Berger explains that Saintsbury has been around for about 40 years with a record of getting better and better all the time and Nico will tell us their story.

Saintsbury used to be focussed on Carneros and now have shifted toward Sonoma Coast. Nico has brought their Sonoma Coast Chardonnay and Pinot Noir, made from their favorite vineyards.

They start with the 2023 Sonoma Coast Chardonnay. Most of it comes from a San Giacomo family vineyard. Dan Berger describes the cool climate influence with a bit of the complexity of Chablis and a light acidity. Saintsbury has been using this vineyard for a long time. Some of the planting was even done for Saintsbury.
Where the senses and the mind come together
The process of building a blend involves three or four passes. Nicola describes blending as a process where "...senses and mind come together. You have to allow yourself to reach that point." Nicola started at Saintsbury as an intern in 2018. He worked on his first harvest that year, while was still a student in viticulture and enology at the University of Bologna in Italy. He is now the assistant winemaker
A family winery with a family atmosphere
Nico grew up in Italy and wine is on the table all the time. Dan Berger is eager to learn from the younger people in the world of wine. People's palettes have evolved and this continues, just as weather patterns have changed. Nico mentions two mentors at Saintsbury, they are Tim Colla, the head winemaker at Saintsbury, and Jaime, their cellar master who has been there for 20 years. They have lots of conversations and taste lots of blends. They have family style lunch every Friday at Saintsbury. Having come from Italy, Nico is grateful to have a family feeling at Saintsbury.

Dan Berger describes the house style of Saintsbury, which has remained consistent for 40 years.

Next they taste a pétillant-naturel, which is abbreviated to pét-nat.  It has very small and light bubbles and Dan declares it is delightful. They only made about 150 cases of it.

Saintsbury has an event scheduled for November 1, 2025, at the Napa winery at 1500 Los Carneros Ave. It is a celebration of past and present winemakers. It is structured as a market, with local artisans.
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2 months ago
50 minutes 17 seconds

California Wine Country
Oded Shakked, Longboard Vineyards
3 months ago
42 minutes 32 seconds

California Wine Country
Christian Adams, German Wine Collection
3 months ago
37 minutes 42 seconds

California Wine Country
Kim Stare Wallace plus Brian Pruett, Dry Creek Vineyards
3 months ago
51 minutes 3 seconds

California Wine Country
Clark Smith
4 months ago
42 minutes 45 seconds

California Wine Country
Winemakers Greg Morthole and Chris O’Gorman
Winemakers Greg Morthole and Chris O'Gorman join Dan Berger and Daedalus Howell on California Wine Country. Greg is the winemaker at Davis Bynum.

They are here to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Davis Bynum's wine company. He was a pioneer in Russian River Valley and was one of the first to make Pinot Noir. Pinot Noir is difficult to grow properly.

Davis Bynum's father was a journalist and wrote a book about how to make wine. Davis became a journalist from the age of 25 to 40 for the San Francisco Chronicle. At 40 he studied winemaking at the Berkeley library and went through a few "hard knocks."

Dan points out that the one thing about Russian River Valley is that the weather is cool. The wines had natural acidity and did not need to be adjusted. Davis liked the natural style of winemaking because they required less work. His wines were always very good. When Dan interviewed him in 1986, he was making Merlot which he loved. Greg remembers that Davis would also play music to the vines. He started by raising organic grapes but got tired of paying certification fees.
Davis Bynum
Greg Morthole got to work with Davis Bynum, who passed away in 2017 at the age of 92. He was an interesting character and Greg heard a lot of stories from him.

They taste a 2023 Davis Bynum Dutton Origin Chardonnay (on the left, in the picture above). It has a beautiful rich personality. Dan calls it almost Burgundian in its aromatics. It has good acidity so it could be served with rich seafoods like lobster. It will probably get better after 2 or 3 years in the bottle. This wine come from a block that the Dutton family has been farming since the 1880s.
The 50th Anniversary Wine
The next tasting is the 50th Anniversary wine, a 2023 vintage. Dan Berger loves it but Greg Morthole gives credit to the weather. That year the ripening was slow, then there was some rain, and only then, the fruit ripened perfectly. "Mother nature just gave us a great wine," says Greg. Dan suggests, and Greg agrees, that the ripening conditions this year remind him of 2023. They only made 35 cases of it.
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4 months ago
55 minutes 32 seconds

California Wine Country
Jamie Peters, WineSong
4 months ago
52 minutes 7 seconds

California Wine Country
Ferragosto with Dan Berger and Harry Duke
Ventura Smalley, Harry Duke, Cathy Ratto and Dan Berger.

Dan Berger and Harry Duke are in the studio together on California Wine Country today on the Italian holiday of Ferragosto. Our expected guest was not available.

California Wine Country is brought to you by the 40th annual WineSong!

Ferragosto is the Italian holiday celebrated on August 15th. It is the middle of summer vacation season in Italy. It is also a religious holiday, the Catholic Feast of the Assumption. Dan describes the rich history of Ferragosto and how a holiday with ancient roots is still an annual occurrence.

Dan Berger has brought a bottle of his Bahl Fratty Riesling, and several other wines. The Bahl Fratty is probably the driest Riesling ever made anywhere. There are also some red wines to taste.
Bahl Fratty
Bahl Fratty is Boontling for good wine. There is a typewriter on the label, which reminds us of Dan Berger's illustrious career as a print journalist.

The 40th Winesong Weekend Celebration is Sept. 5-6, 2025. Click the Winesong 40th logo for details.

The next among the wines that Dan Berger has brought today is a 2024 Chateau Montelena Riesling. They have been making this exact same wine for a long time. It has aromas of tropical fruit, pineapple, a spice component, it's not entirely dry, but it's not sweet, just barely off-dry. It would go well with Thai or Chinese food.

Riesling is a grape variety that requires a cooler climate, or if not cool, it needs high winds to cool it off. There is only a little Riesling left in Russian River Valley, and some in Carneros and Petaluma Gap.

Harry asks Dan to tell about how Steve Jaxon introduced himself and invited Dan to join the show. They met for coffee and did a show that day, and have done it weekly since 2017, eight years ago. "It's been an absolute blast," says Dan. Dan mentions a lot of our regular guests, people with a great story to tell, like Don Chigazola from Chigazola Merchants, Alan Baker from Cartograph Wines, Darryl Miller from Delingher Wines. People travel long distances sometimes, to be on the show. Carol Shelton is another favorite, and Harry agrees.
Ferragosto
Dan describes the Italian holiday of Ferragosto, pronouncing it almost correctly, so Chris DiMatteo in Los Angeles calls in with the right sound and little more about the story of this important Italian holiday. This gives Chris the chance to raise a glass of Dan Berger's Bahl Fratty Riesling and to toast Steve Jaxon, who has been a friend and mentor to Chris. Cin-cin, maestro!

Dan's next tasting is a 2018 Syrah from Carneros. Syrah is considered a warm climate variety and Carneros is a cool region. So Dan decided to give it a few years to test it and it turned out to be "really really good." It's not a dark red but has a white pepper character. It was released probably is 2021 and the white pepper component has developed. It also has some dried violet character, which Harry can't confirm. Cuvaison has been in business for close to 50 years and has owned that vineyard for about that long. This wine produces "an explosion of flavors" says Harry.
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4 months ago
48 minutes 55 seconds

California Wine Country
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