From all of us at Cloud Realities, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! 

Back in our December 2022 Christmas special, we explored the far reaches of reality, asking whether we live in a simulation and if that even matters. Now, we return to that question with fresh perspectives and new challenges…

In this last Cloud Realities podcast of 2025, Dave, Esmee and Rob return to the simulation with Anders Indset, philosopher, author, and long-time friend of the show, revisiting a question that’s been quietly running underneath everything we’ve discussed since 2022: If reality itself is information and what does that mean for being human?

TLDR:

00:58 – It’s Christmas!
08:32 – Major announcement and reflections on the Cloud Realities podcast journey
15:32 – Celebrating three big wins: B2B Marketing Awards (Best Content, Best Customer Retention) and The Drum (Best Creative Audio)
22:55 – Is there a next thing?
23:30 – Welcoming Anders Indset, who shares his vision for practical philosophy and the future of human/AI co-evolution
32:02 – Exploring the Quantum Economy and the Singularity Paradox
58:10 – Deep dive into the Simulation Hypothesis, revisiting the 2022 discussion and Rob is again confused...
01:27:45 – Anders enjoying Christmas in the Norwegian wilderness
01:29:40 – Edit point

Guest

Anders Indset: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/ or andersindset.com

Additional information: thequantumeconomy.com and tomorrowmensch.com

Hosts

Dave Chapmanger: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Gluhwein: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Snowmananahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Dr Mike van Der Buabbles: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapmanger: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Jingle: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Snow:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

In this last episode of the special AI mini-series, we now explore the human side of transformation, where technology meets purpose and people remain at the center. From future jobs and critical thinking to working with C-level leaders, how human intervention and high-quality data drive success in an AI-powered world.

This week Dave, Esmee , Rob sit down with Johanna Hutchinson, CDO at BAE systems about why data matters, the rise of Sovereign AI, and the skills shaping the intelligence age.

TLDR

00:55 Introduction of Johanna Hutchinson

02:09 Explaining the State of AI mini-series with Craig

06:01 Conversation with Johanna

34:20 Weaving today’s data tapestries with AI

40:20 Going to a rave

Guest

Johanna Hutchinson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johanna-hutchinson-95b95568/

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

with co-host Craig Suckling: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigsuckling/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

AI is transforming software development—redefining roles, creativity, and community, while challenging developers to embrace ambiguity, orchestrate specialized agents, and stay human through empathy and curiosity. Will AI make developers more creative, or will we forget how the machine really works under the hood?

This week Dave, Esmee , Rob sit down with Scott Hanselman, VP Developer Community at Microsoft for a wildly energetic, deeply human, and brilliantly practical conversation about how AI is reshaping software development and what that means for creativity, careers, and all industries.

 
TLDR

00:30 – Scott Hanselman introduced as a special guest from Microsoft Ignite 2025.

02:16 – Scott discusses how AI is fundamentally redesigning all industries.

09:50 – Don’t anthropomorphize AI, I want the computer from Star Trek!

15:30 – Delegation: contrasting the roles of humans and agents.

18:30 – The importance of supporting early career growth and learning.

26:30 – Why specificity matters in AI and coding.

35:30 – Making AI delightful and fun.

45:30 – Always put humans first in AI development.

46:00 – Each morning I think about lunch.

Guest

Scott Hanselman: https://www.hanselman.com/
The Hanselminutes Podcast: https://www.hanselman.com/podcasts with over 1025 podcasts!

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Live from the iconic Venetian in Las Vegas, we’re rolling out an exclusive mini-series dedicated to AWS re:Invent 2025!

Tune in as we sit down with AWS visionaries and take the pulse of the industry on everything shaping the future, Cloud innovation, GenAI, Agents, and the hottest trends making waves.

And because what happens in Vegas doesn’t always stay in Vegas, we’ll spill the latest news, insider buzz, and a little Strip-side gossip to keep things spicy.

Dave, Esmee, and Rob wrap up their final AWS re:Invent 2025 conversation with Mustafa Isik, Chief Technologist for Sovereignty at AWS, discussing digital sovereignty and its growing regional importance. They close the event with reflections from Matthew Gillard, co-founder of Cuidado Connect and co-host of Cloud Dialogues, along with insights from the team.

TLDR

01:29 – Meet Mustafa Isik and hear his keynote highlights
04:05 – In-depth discussion with Mustafa
31:35 – Exploring the line between science fiction and science fact
36:26 – Introduction to Matthew Gillard
38:55 – Matt shares his re:Invent reflections from a developer’s perspective
52:12 – The team looks back on re:Invent 2025
1:00:02 – The team’s take on science fiction versus science fact
 

Guests

Mustafa Isik: https://www.linkedin.com/in/codesurgeon/

Matt Gillard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgillard/ 
https://cloud-dialogues.com/

Hosts

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Marcel van der Burg:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Live from the iconic Venetian in Las Vegas, we’re rolling out an exclusive mini-series dedicated to AWS re:Invent 2025!

Tune in as we sit down with AWS visionaries and take the pulse of the industry on everything shaping the future, Cloud innovation, GenAI, Agents, and the hottest trends making waves.

And because what happens in Vegas doesn’t always stay in Vegas, we’ll spill the latest news, insider buzz, and a little Strip-side gossip to keep things spicy.

Dave, Esmee, and Rob continue their discussion with Scott Mullins, MD Financial Services at AWS, on how the sector is rapidly embracing cloud, AI, automation, and real-time data to drive agility and stay compliant.

TLDR

00:30 – Meet Scott Mullins and hear about his re:Invent experience
05:00 – Deep dive conversation with Scott
25:56 – Fiiction with The Jetsons

Guest

Scott Mullins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/escottmullins/

Hosts

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Marcel van der Burg:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Live from the iconic Venetian in Las Vegas, we’re rolling out an exclusive mini-series dedicated to AWS re:Invent 2025!

Tune in as we sit down with AWS visionaries and take the pulse of the industry on everything shaping the future, Cloud innovation, GenAI, Agents, and the hottest trends making waves.

And because what happens in Vegas doesn’t always stay in Vegas, we’ll spill the latest news, insider buzz, and a little Strip-side gossip to keep things spicy.

Dave, Esmee, and Rob bring a double-feature conversation on industry innovation—first with Rob Boetticher, Global Technology Leader for Automotive and Manufacturing, followed by Howard Gefen, GM of the Energy and Utilities Industry Business Unit at AWS.

TLDR

00:42 – Rob Boetticher & Howard Gefen introduced

02:00 – Rob’s keynote highlights

07:52 –  The future of automotive innovation with Rob

23:32 – Tech fiction examples

25:59 – Howard Gefen introduced

28:00 – Howard’s keynote highlights

31:04 – Howard on the future of Energy and Utilities

50:14 – Tech fiction examples

Guest

Rob Boetticher: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-boetticher/
Howard Gefen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hgefen/

Hosts

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Marcel van der Burg:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Live from the iconic Venetian in Las Vegas, we’re rolling out an exclusive mini-series dedicated to AWS re:Invent 2025!

Tune in as we sit down with AWS visionaries and take the pulse of the industry on everything shaping the future, Cloud innovation, GenAI, Agents, and the hottest trends making waves.

And because what happens in Vegas doesn’t always stay in Vegas, we’ll spill the latest news, insider buzz, and a little Strip-side gossip to keep things spicy.

Dave, Esmee, and Rob kick off their conversation with Tanuja Randery, Managing Director for Europe, the Middle East & Africa (EMEA), diving into cloud innovation and the call to re:Accelerate Europe.

TLDR

00:49 – Introduction to Tanuja Randery
03:29 – Keynote highlights with Tanuja and a deep-dive conversation
31:00 – Imaginary tech and Star Trek

Guest

Tanuja Randery: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanuja-randery/

Hosts

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Marcel van der Burg:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Live from the iconic Venetian in Las Vegas, we’re rolling out an exclusive mini-series dedicated to AWS re:Invent 2025!

Tune in as we sit down with AWS visionaries and take the pulse of the industry on everything shaping the future, Cloud innovation, GenAI, Agents, and the hottest trends making waves.

And because what happens in Vegas doesn’t always stay in Vegas, we’ll spill the latest news, insider buzz, and a little Strip-side gossip to keep things spicy.

Dave, Esmee, and Rob continue their conversation with Tim Murnin, Head of Industry & Partner Strategy at AWS, exploring the evolving role of the CIO, adoption delays, and how trends vary across different sectors.

TLDR

00:36 – Welcome back with Tim Murnin and the team’s highlights from the AWS re:Invent 2025 keynote
08:04 – In-depth conversation with Tim, exploring key insights
32:05 – Where fact meets fiction, including a look at the flying car

Guest

Tim Murnin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timmurnin/

Hosts

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Marcel van der Burg:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Live from the iconic Venetian in Las Vegas, we’re rolling out an exclusive mini-series dedicated to AWS re:Invent 2025!

Tune in as we sit down with AWS visionaries and take the pulse of the industry on everything shaping the future, Cloud innovation, GenAI, Agents, and the hottest trends making waves. And because what happens in Vegas doesn’t always stay in Vegas, we’ll spill the latest news, insider buzz, and a little Strip-side gossip to keep things spicy.

Dave, Esmee, and Rob start their conversation with Chandra Pinapala, Director Global Strategic Partners, to explore why strong partnerships are essential for success in Cloud and AI.

TLDR

00:40 – Back in Las Vegas with highlights from the AWS re:Invent 2025 keynote
12:07 – Meet Chandra Pinapala and dive deep into the conversation
35:10 – A playful leap into the world of fiction

Guest

Chandra Pinapala: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chandrapinapala/

Hosts

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Marcel van der Burg:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Accelerating cloud adoption to drive innovation across domains like space, identity, and naval systems presents unique challenges. Success depends on aligning organizational culture, governance, financial models, and regulatory frameworks to enable collaboration, scalability, and software-defined capabilities. 

This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob speak with Danny Polaine, Chief Information Officer at Thales, about the strategic shift to cloud technologies in a high-security sector like defense and the unique challenges that come with it. 

TLDR:

00:52 – Introduction to Danny Polaine

03:35 – Rob is confused about the AI privacy dilemma

07:40 – Exploring tech in high-security sectors with Danny

35:34 – The biggest challenge isn’t tech, it’s people adapting to new ways of working

44:55 – Reflections on the CIO role and a fun story about singing waiters at a wedding

Guest 

Danny Polaine: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danny-polaine-5713454/?originalSubdomain=uk 

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Hello San Francisco - we're arrived for Microsoft Ignite 2025!

The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed this week in San Francisco, we're bringing you the best updates right from the heart of the event. Join us to connect AI at scale, cloud modernization, and secure innovation—empowering organizations to become AI-first. 

Plus, we'll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip. 

Dave, Esmee, and Rob wrap up their Ignite 2025 series with Yina Arenas, CVP of Microsoft Foundry, to discuss why Foundry is the go-to choice for enterprises and how it champions responsible development and innovation. 

TLDR

00:40 – Introduction to Yina Arenas
01:14 – How the team is doing, keynote highlights, and insights from the Expo floor
02:50 – Deep dive with Yina on the evolution of Cloud Foundry
29:24 – Favourite IT-themed movie, human interaction, and our society
31:56 – Personal (and slightly juicy) reflections on the week
37:30 – Team reflections on Ignite 2025, including an executive summary per guest and appreciation for Dennis Hansen
50:54 – The team’s favorite IT-themed movies
59:30 – Personal favorite restaurant

Guest

Yina Arenas: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yinaa/

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podc

Hello San Francisco - we're arrived for Microsoft Ignite 2025!

The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed this week in San Francisco, we're bringing you the best updates right from the heart of the event. Join us to connect AI at scale, cloud modernization, and secure innovation—empowering organizations to become AI-first. 

Plus, we'll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip. 

Dave, Esmee, and Rob continue their conversation with Alistair Speirs, GM of Global Infrastructure for Microsoft’s Azure Business Group, exploring how to build and scale the AI and Cloud datacenters of the future worldwide—while also addressing sovereignty requirements. 

TLDR

00:40 – Introduction to Alistair Speirs

04:42 – Keynote highlights and Expo floor insights

06:50 – Deep dive conversation with Alistair

36:36 – Favorite IT-themed movie, using your brain as compute storage, and why people still matter

Guest

Alistair Speirs: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alistair/

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Hello San Francisco - we're arrived for Microsoft Ignite 2025!

The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed this week in San Francisco, we're bringing you the best updates right from the heart of the event. Join us to connect AI at scale, cloud modernization, and secure innovation—empowering organizations to become AI-first. 

Plus, we'll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip. 

Dave and Esmee continue their conversation with Rob Lefferts, CVP Threat Protection about the key security announcements and explore how we leverage agents to protect, defend, and respond at AI speed. 

TLDR

00:50 – Introduction to Rob Lefferts

01:40 – Keynote highlights and insights from the Expo floor

03:19 – In-depth conversation with Rob on why security is critical in the era of AI

22:53 – Favorite IT-themed movie linked to the Asimov’s principles and the Louvre password 

Guest

Rob Lefferts: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-lefferts/

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Hello San Francisco - we're arrived for Microsoft Ignite 2025!

The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed this week in San Francisco, we're bringing you the best updates right from the heart of the event. Join us to connect AI at scale, cloud modernization, and secure innovation—empowering organizations to become AI-first. 

Plus, we'll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip. 

Dave, Esmee and Rob, continue their discussion with John Link, Partner Product Manager at Microsoft, exploring Frontier organizations and how AI and quantum are reshaping R&D, all within the context of Microsoft Discovery. 

TLDR

00:58 – Introduction to John Link (and some fun food spellings)

03:55 – Keynote highlights and Expo floor insights

06:42 – Deep dive conversation with John

25:00 – Favorite IT-themed movie, thoughts on brain implants, and the simulation theory

Guest

John Link: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmlink/

Hosts

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Marcel van der Burg:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:   https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Hello San Francisco - we're arrived for Microsoft Ignite 2025!

The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed this week in San Francisco, we're bringing you the best updates right from the heart of the event. Join us to connect AI at scale, cloud modernization, and secure innovation—empowering organizations to become AI-first. Plus, we'll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip. 

Dave, Esmee, and Rob continue their conversation with Jonathan Hunt, CVP of Business Solutions at Microsoft, diving into the differences between AI-driven business solutions and traditional business applications, and exploring how customers can learn where—and how—to get started with AI. 

TLDR

00:35 – Introduction and conversation with Jonathan Hunt, plus updates from the event floor
22:15 – Favorite IT-themed movie starring Arnold Schwarzenegger

Guest

Jonathan Hunt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-hunt1/

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Hello San Francisco - we're arrived for Microsoft Ignite 2025!

The #CloudRealities podcast team has landed this week in San Francisco, we're bringing you the best updates right from the heart of the event. Join us to connect AI at scale, cloud modernization, and secure innovation—empowering organizations to become AI-first. 
Plus, we'll keep you updated on all the latest news and juicy gossip. 

Dave, Esmee and Rob kick off with Rob Cromwell, CVP of Engineering and explore the exciting evolution of Copilot and share insights on what’s coming next. 

TLDR
00:50 – Back in San Francisco
02:45 – Highlights from the first keynote
11:08 – Intro and chat with Rob Cromwell
30:40 – Tackling tech and authentication challenges
32:28 – Favorite IT-related film and a glimpse into the near future

Guest
Rob Cromwell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robcromwell/

Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Digital intelligence is reshaping how organizations work, and success depends on integrating multiple domains, using real-time analytics, and ensuring strong cyber protections as data grows and risks increase 

This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk with Chris Carter, Director - Key Accounts and Australia at BAE Systems Digital Intelligence, to explore the fast-moving world of digital intelligence, data, and analytics and dive into the complexities of the work, how rapidly the landscape is evolving, and the major challenges organizations face today. 
 

TLDR:

00:41 Introduction of Chris Carter
03:00 Rob is confused by the idea of renting out brain capacity for compute power
07:13 Chris discusses the fusion of data, AI, and human judgment in complex environments
34:30 Are we giving enough attention to human cognitive capacity?
42:34 Rugby tickets with the family 

Guest

Chris Carter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chriscarter3/

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
 

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

 In this second episode of the special AI mini-series, we now explore the human side of transformation, where technology meets purpose and people remain at the center. From future jobs and critical thinking to working with C-level leaders, how human intervention and high-quality data drive success in an AI-powered world.

This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk to Indhira Mani, CDO at Intact Insurance UK, about the Love for data, insights on leadership, resilience, and preparing the next generation for what’s next.  

TLDR:

01:30 Introduction of Indhira Mani and Scotch whisky
05:45 Explaining the State of AI mini-series with Craig
07:12 Conversation with Indi about her boyfriend called Data 

38:33 Umbrella Sharing in Japan and the trust on AI
45:15 The British Insurance Award and Women in Tech finalist 

Guest
Indhira Mani: https://www.linkedin.com/in/indhira-mani-data/

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

with co-host Craig Suckling: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigsuckling/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

Technology can scale almost everything—except human experience. In a world driven by efficiency, what does it mean to design for how people truly feel? It's about transforming user interactions into ongoing insight and innovation, rooted in empathy and understanding. 

This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Kevin Magee, Chief Technology Officer at All human about helping organizations transform customer experiences with a focus on design, engineering, and what is called "digital performance." 
 

TLDR:

00:41 Introduction of Kevin Magee with Guinness or sparkling water?
03:23 Rob wonders, is Apple really opening up its ecosystem?
11:40 Deep dive with Kevin into design, engineering, and digital performance
36:30 How tools built for one purpose can transform entire systems
48:35 Weekend city breaks and pursuing a master’s in psychology 

Guest

Kevin Magee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinmagee/

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
 

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini

The skills we teach today will decide the world we live in tomorrow but the digital skills gap is something we've been dealing with for decades, but it’s growing faster than ever, it starts with kids and stretches all the way into late IT careers, and now we're finally taking a more connected, lifelong approach to closing it. 

This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob speak with Mike Nayler, Director, National Security, Defense & Public Safety at AWS about the digital skills gap and explore how tech companies can help close it. 

TLDR:

00:45 Introduction of Mike Nayler and the pros and cons of enterprise architects, based on a survey
03:30 Rob is confused about AI replacing prompt engineers
07:55 Conversation with Mike on the digital skills gap
25:15 The real gap is between institutions and the people they aim to serve
33:24 Mike heading back to school and writing essays again

Guest 

Mike Nayler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayler/

Hosts

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/

Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/

Production

Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/

Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/

Sound

Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/

Louis Corbett:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/

'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini