Pete and Justin are joined by Chris from "Leicester til I die TV" and discuss a 4-4 Boxing Day derby that only Pete seems to remember, The foxes new manager, season problems and why they'd just like to get the whole points deduction thing done and out of the way. The prediction league sees Christmas post dip back down and Brett puts working in a gym to good use with the dice and a treadmill! COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Cremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hear the fan reaction after the close win over Stoke City, as always people have differing opinions about the performance, the opposition and the game itself - but that's fine - that's what causes the chat and debate over the club that we love and on occasions frustrates the hell out of us!. COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Cremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We chat with Tunni from "Every step along the way" podcast and he does insist on knowing what he's talking about and has even done some research (frowned upon at DNSYE Towers of course) but we make a strong recovery and we are reassuringly rubbish again in no time!! Christmas is causing AFC PostBox mayhem with the Prediction League and Brett is trying to get gym equipment to roll dice (and these two are still top by quite some way!!!) COYH!! COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Cremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

High flying Charlton showed why they are unbeaten and top of the WSL2 however Watford caused their hosts some real problems - whilst the result was beyond the Hornets it shows the benchmark to aspire to - and a fine match as well!COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Cremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Part Two of the fan reaction for what we hoped would be a second away win but for the late excitement that saw a Wrexham equaliser and Javi sent off! COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Cremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

UNEDITED AND RAW: Hear the initial fan reaction to the game at the Race Course that finished with a late Wrexham equaliser and Watford fans differing in opinions over Javi's contribution, tactics and substitutions. COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Cremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Javi's thoughts before the Wrexham trip covering Injuries, AFCON omissions, injury updates and thoughts on systems and fringe players with the transfer window about to reopen. COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Cremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Justin and Pete chat with Nathan from "Rob, Ryan, Red" the Wrexham podcast about life before the documentary, the similarities across different decades and interconnecting points of the two clubs, Pete gets his Dixie's mixed up and we celebrated Luke Oh 9!! We look at the likely line up before getting to the prediction league which is now affected by Christmas!!!! COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Cremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

RAW & UNEDITED: Part Two: A horribly disjointed performance is picked over as a beleaguered Owls team turn up at Vicarage Road and many supporters sympathised not only with their plight of recent years but also that they had two points taken away. Are we too harsh on a team that has lost 1 game in 8 - we start to pick through the aftermath of strange midweek evening at the Vic. Comments and 5 word reviews COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Kremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Carbs Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

RAW & UNEDITED: A horribly disjointed performance is picked over as a beleaguered Owls team turn up at Vicarage Road and many supporters sympathised not only with their plight of recent years but also that they had two points taken away. Are we too harsh on a team that has lot 1 game in 8 - we start to pick through the aftermath of strange midweek evening at the Vic. COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Kremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Carbs Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We get to chat with Alex Lowe about life with Clinton Baptiste and Barry from Watford, exactly who Clinton will be performing with at the Watford Colosseum with in December, Clinton's upcoming "Spectral Intercourse" tour in 2026, The Watford Pump House and the London Palladium and how as a QPR fan he managed to make his son a Wolves fan!!! Fading Now.....fading now..... COYH!! Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Kremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Carbs Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A frustrating result is something that the girls will want to bounce back from at the Valley next week.COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Kremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Carbs Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Opposition View with a difference we hear from Matt of "Wednesday til I die" about the owner, the points deduction, the ripping of a club to pieces and hopefully finally a slow start to climb - not up a table but out of an ownership model that has been unhealthy and unpleasant for all - to say the least! Then we mess about a bit!! COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Kremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Carbs Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here is part two of the fan reaction plus all the comments, reviews and limericks!! COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Kremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Carbs Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here the initial fan reaction from the comeback against the canaries but a considered batch of responses acknowledge that this was a game that could have easily got away from us in the first half!! COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Kremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Carbs Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Javi gives his thoughts before the visit of the Canaries. COYH!! This Podcast content has reproduced by permission of Watford FC and produced and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Kremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Carbs Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We chat with Samuel from the Pink 'un about all things Norwich ahead of our first game with the canaries in December (thanks to the fixtures computer at the EFL -there's two this month!! Pete also got down to the bunker to chat with Roy Moore about all things 1881 and Bunker type stuff and what people can do to help contribute to the flag, banner and general fun goings on (all whilst drinking beer!!) COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Kremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Carbs Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hear part 2 of the Post Match Phone with all the comments, 5 word reviews and limericks! COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Kremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Carbs Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here the initial post match reaction after a game where our mistakes lead to the home side scoring with two great strikes! COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Kremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Carbs Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Watford play the postponed game and then relocated FA Cup match at Uxbridge FC who were great hosts. The win sees Watford take on WSL2 High flyers Charlton Athletic in two weeks time - fingers crossed!!! COYH!! This Podcast has been created and uploaded by Do Not Scratch Your Eyes. Huge thanks to all our Patreons: Chris Giannone, RichWFC2, Steve Holliman, Paul Fiander Turner, Sean Gourley, Lee Anselmo, John Parslow, Mark von Herkomer, Neil Silverstein, Steve Brown, Dave Lavender, Kasey Brown, Nipper Harrison, Boyd Mayover, Colin Payne, Paul Riley, Gary Wood, Karl Campion, Kevin Kremen, The Big Le – Bofski, Greg Theaker, Malcolm Williams, Peter Ryan, John Thekanady - Ambassador of Dubai!! Jack Foster, Jason Rose, Michael Abrahams, Ian Bacon, Ken Green, Nick Nieuwland, Colin Smith Ant!!!!! Westlie Wheeler Stephen Atkinson John Myers Ryan D! Dave Mullins, James McNamara Jim Cuthbert Carbs Peter Birch John Myers Richard Pyne Vydra Deeney!!! & PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices