David Pearl, LCSW, is a psychotherapist and performance coach who helps people optimize their potential and achieve meaningful results by building emotional endurance, breaking old patterns, and performing from a grounded, authentic place. Having trained at Union Square Practice in NYC, David founded Music City Psych, a private therapy and executive coaching practice located in Nashville, Tennessee. David and his team counsel adults, adolescents, and couples, as well as musicians and recording artists, athletes, high-performing professionals, and businesses.
Website: Music City Psych
Recorded on November 18, 2025 at the offices of Music City Psych in Nashville, Tennessee.
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Thank you to our show sponsors:
The Victory Theatre: Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation. See all upcoming events at victorytheatre.com.
Thru-Line Development Company: Based in Evansville, Indiana, Thru-Line Dev Co. is a boutique coaching practice made for the highly-committed developing and established artists in need of clarity of vision, strengthening of identity, and realignment of the systems and structures surrounding their careers for authentic, scalable growth. Rooted in a practice of supportive inquiry and deep creative alignment, Thru-Line exists to help artists move beyond burnout, misalignment, and inherited industry beliefs to build careers that scale with clarity rather than compromise. Learn more at artistdev.co.
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Lauren Longbine Bartlett is a Country Radio Promotion Executive based in Scottsdale, Arizona. Over the last decade, she’s helped garner 33 #1 hits for artists including Luke Combs, FGL, Megan Moroney, Old Dominion, and dozens more. Previously, she worked as Sr. Director of Promotion & Artist Development at Sony Music Nashville and was a Regional Director of Promotion & Marketing at Big Machine Label Group in Nashville. Currently, Lauren works independently on releases for artists including Chris Janson, Brandon Lake & Jelly Roll, and more with her company Gregory Brand Collective.
Follow Lauren: @laurenlbartlett
Recorded on November 18, 2025 at the Hilton Garden Vanderbilt hotel in Nashville, Tennessee.
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Thank you to our show sponsors:
The Victory Theatre: Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation. See all upcoming events at victorytheatre.com.
Thru-Line Development Company: Based in Evansville, Indiana, Thru-Line Dev Co. is a boutique coaching practice made for the highly-committed developing and established artists in need of clarity of vision, strengthening of identity, and realignment of the systems and structures surrounding their careers for authentic, scalable growth. Rooted in a practice of supportive inquiry and deep creative alignment, Thru-Line exists to help artists move beyond burnout, misalignment, and inherited industry beliefs to build careers that scale with clarity rather than compromise. Learn more at artistdev.co.
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Chris Rusecki is the Head of Campaign Management at Soar Music Group, a Netherlands-based, multi-faceted music promotion company focused on playlisting, press, and live bookings. Based in Manchester, England, Chris previously earned a Masters Degree in Music & Management at the University of Leeds started his career in music as a Senior A&R at Liberty Music PR. Chris is also co-founder of The Nineties, a consultancy firm focused on advising independent artist in the area of music marketing.
Follow Chris: @chrisrusecki
Follow Soar Music Group: @soarmusicgroup
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Thank you to our sponsor, Symphonic. Founded in 2006 by former music producer Jorge Brea, Symphonic Distribution provides thousands of new and established record labels, managers, and artists with global digital music and video distribution to hundreds of retail and streaming platforms, playlist pitching, release promotion, and a comprehensive suite of label services.
A shortlist of Artists and Record Labels who have had their work distributed through Symphonic include: Ok Go!, Jon Batiste, Doechii, Melissa Etheridge, Sean Paul, CloZee, Odesza, LS DREAM, Sarah McLachlan, Wally Opus Records, and many more incredibly talented creatives across various genres.
Switch to Symphonic to get your music onto all major platforms and utilize their growing set of tools and offerings with 25% off your first year of a Starter Package by visiting: https://symphonic.com/starter/ and entering the promo code "everybodyelse" (case sensitive) at check out.
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Dr. Perry Burnett is an economics professor at the University of Southern Indiana where his primary research areas are in urban and regional economics and the economics of religion. Perry's research has been published in leading international journals, such as the Journal of Regional Science, Land Economics, Social Indicators Research and the Journal of Policy Modeling. In 2022, he discovered the band Lorna Shore and has since become a devote listener and audience member of the genre Deathcore where he's discovered a sort of spiritual medicine in the music.
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Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for bringing great entertainment to our little city and for believing in this show.
Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.
Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
The Mothership is a multi-faceted music venue and rehearsal space located in Mansfield, Ohio. Founded in 2018 by owner Jeff Ulery, The Mothership was converted from an old doctors office into a 16-room facility housing practice spaces, a 100 cap live venue, free lodging for touring musicians, and (soon) a full-service recording studio. Nate Daniel is the venue’s General Manager who leads operations including booking bands such as The Toxhards, Wynton Existing, Hippies and Cowboys, and Leo Lovechild, to name a few.
Follow The Mothership: @theemothership
Website: https://mothership.love/
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Thank you to our sponsor, Symphonic. Founded in 2006 by former music producer Jorge Brea, Symphonic Distribution provides thousands of new and established record labels, managers, and artists with global digital music and video distribution to hundreds of retail and streaming platforms, playlist pitching, release promotion, and a comprehensive suite of label services.
A shortlist of Artists and Record Labels who have had their work distributed through Symphonic include: Sublime, Ok Go!, Jon Batiste, Doechii, Melissa Etheridge, Sean Paul, CloZee, Odesza, LS DREAM, Sarah McLachlan, Wally Opus Records, and many more incredibly talented creatives across various genres.
Switch to Symphonic to get your music onto all major platforms and utilize their growing set of tools and offerings with 25% off your first year of a Starter Package by visiting: https://symphonic.com/starter/ and entering the promo code "everybodyelse" (case sensitive) at check out.
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Aaron Mones is a touring musician, producer, and multi-instrumentalist based in Rifton, New York. Credited with millions of streams, Aaron has played or produced on recordings for Paul Moody, Leo Lovechild, The Shivers, Ghost Prom, and numerous others. He and his twin brother, Wyatt Mones, release original music under their artist moniker, Spillway.
Follow Aaron: @desdreamer
Follow Spillway: @spilllway
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Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for bringing great entertainment to our little city and for believing in this show.
Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.
Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Show host Wes Luttrell shares his approach and experience as a music producer through five stories of projects he's worked on over the previous decade - first, as the artist producer, Para Doc, then as a producer for Midwest artists like The Strangers, Swamp Eyes, Jax Fleming, and Maggie Hollis. In this solo episode, he reflects on how setting a vision for the project early on carries the music across the finish line and sets the conditions for "magic to happen".
Follow Wes: Instagram
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Songs featured in this episode (in order):
"Tuesday Feels" - Para Doc
"Electric Love" - The Strangers
"Cheers" - Swamps Eyes
"Superficial" - Jax Fleming
"Second Best" - Maggie Hollis
"Sky Blue Waters" - The Chugs
As mentioned: The Strangers Story - A Mini Doc
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
This week, we go behind-the-scenes of the podcast dedicated to behind-the-scenes of music. Inputing the transcripts of the first 19 episodes combined with prompts that dive into how the show was conceived, how it was launched, and where it's headed, host, Wes Luttrell, reflects on starting Everybody Else and what he learned from the first 19 episodes by answering questions provided by ChatGPT. This is "Current State".
Follow Wes: @wes_luttrell
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Ethan Douglass and Christian Schmitz are visual artists and scene makers based in Newburgh, Indiana. They are the co-founders of Baggy Genes, an annual art-centric event featuring an original curated art exhibit and live music that draws hundreds of young people from across the Tri-State (& beyond). Ethan is also the drummer of the band, TRUCK, as well as the visual artist responsible for branding the Everybody Else Podcast.
Follow Ethan: @ethandouglasss
Follow Christian: @cljschmitz
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Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for believing in this show.
Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.
Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Kadin Rea is the bassist of The Band Feel, a St. Louis-based vintage-meets-modern rock band known for their classic aesthetic and exciting live performances. Having opened for acts like ZZ Top, The Black Crowes, and Dirty Honey, Kadin and his bandmates are represented by Red Light Management and United Talent Agency (booking). A native of Santa Claus, Indiana, where he runs live sound for venues in Holiday World Theme Park between tours, Kadin started as the bassist and a founding member of The Strangers, the first band ever signed to Wally Opus Records. He recently started River City Music Collective, a booking and show promotion company aiming to grow the live music scene in Evansville, Indiana.
Follow Kadin: @kadin_rea
Follow The Band Feel: @thebandfeel
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Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for bringing great entertainment to our little city and for believing in this show.
Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.
Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Space Monkey Records is a multi-faceted record store located in Evansville, Indiana. Founded in 2019 by long-time DJ and serial entrepreneur Patrick Holl, Space Monkey carries over half a million vinyls, cassettes, and CD’s along with an array of vintage and HiFi stereo equipment. Alongside Pat, Meredith Rausch helps run the store’s many offerings including free monthly shows to support local bands. With additional vendor mall locations, the primary store is also home to one of the Tri-State's largest collections of rock memorabilia and local popular-music history.
Follow Space Monkey: @spacemonkeyrecords
For location and hours of operation, visit Space Monkey's Website
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This episode of Everybody Else is brought to you by Wally Opus.
Proudly based in Evansville, Indiana, Wally Opus is a record label and artist management company serving a handful of recording artists and bands with distribution, marketing, and management of their projects. With a roster stretching coast-to-coast including acts like The Chugs, Ghost Prom, Leo Lovechild, Jax Fleming, Cathryn Lovett, and more, the small, spirited team of doers helps develop and advance artists in their work and lives through holistic, long term planning and common sense support of their creative endeavors.
Visit https://wallyopus.com/ to see all the fine details.
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Jess Keifer is Head of Digital Marketing and Social Strategy at Make Wake Artists, a boutique artist services company based in Nashville, Tennessee. Lead by founder and artist manager, Chris "Kappy", Jess and her Make Wake team serve a roster that includes Luke Combs, Jon Bellion, The Band Perry, Flatland Cavalry, and over a dozen more. An IU-grad and Indy native, Jess formerly worked as Director of Digital Strategy at Sony Music and eCommerce Manager at Big Machine Label Group.
Follow Jess: @jessicakeifer
Follow Make Wake: @makewakeartists
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Thank you to our sponsor, Symphonic. Founded in 2006 by former music producer Jorge Brea, Symphonic Distribution provides thousands of new and established record labels, managers, and artists with global digital music and video distribution to hundreds of retail and streaming platforms, playlist pitching, release promotion, and a comprehensive suite of label services.
A shortlist of Artists and Record Labels who have had their work distributed through Symphonic include: Sublime, Ok Go!, Jon Batiste, Doechii, Melissa Etheridge, Sean Paul, CloZee, Odesza, LS DREAM, Sarah McLachlan, Wally Opus Records, and many more incredibly talented creatives across various genres.
Switch to Symphonic to get your music onto all major platforms and utilize their growing set of tools and offerings with 25% off your first year of a Starter Package by visiting: https://symphonic.com/starter/ and entering the promo code "everybodyelse" (case sensitive) at check out.
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Sam Kuban is a Release Strategist at Wally Opus, an independent record label and artist management company located in Evansville, Indiana. In addition to helping foster the growth and project development of the emerging acts on the label's roster, he is also the drummer and vocalist of The Chugs, a chart-topping surf punk band dedicated to Hamm's Beer as well as a singer, songwriter, and multi-instrumentalist in his solo project, Swamp Eyes. Sam also contributes as a copy editor to the works of Aaron Tanner, whose coffee table books for bands like Cardiacs, Pixies, Face-To-Face, and more are housed in the permanent collections of MoMA, The Smithsonian, and The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
Follow Sam: @sam_kuban
Follow The Chugs: @thechugsband
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Thank you to our sponsor, Symphonic. Founded in 2006 by former music producer Jorge Brea, Symphonic Distribution provides thousands of new and established record labels, managers, and artists with global digital music and video distribution to hundreds of retail and streaming platforms, playlist pitching, release promotion, and a comprehensive suite of label services.
A shortlist of Artists and Record Labels who have had their work distributed through Symphonic include: Sublime, Ok Go!, Jon Batiste, Doechii, Melissa Etheridge, Sean Paul, CloZee, Odesza, LS DREAM, Sarah McLachlan, Wally Opus Records, and many more incredibly talented creatives across various genres.
Switch to Symphonic to get your music onto all major platforms and utilize their growing tools and offerings with 25% off your first year of a Starter Package by visiting: https://symphonic.com/starter/ and entering the promo code "everybodyelse" (case sensitive) at check out.
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Flint Rasure is Vice President of Concept Sound & Light, a full-service audio, video, and lighting production and install company located in Evansville, Indiana. Starting his career as a local DJ, Flint found a job at Concept nearly 15 years ago and has since evolved into a part owner of the company that services the local and regional area with anything from small PA rentals to large-scale concert sound and lighting configurations at venues like the Victory Theatre, ONEP, and the Ford Center, to name a few. Alongside a co-worker, Flint also helped pioneer an in-house live-streaming setup for churches that pre-dated COVID by five years and became a valuable resource for the community and company during the time of the pandemic.
Follow Flint: @flintrasure
Follow Concept: @conceptsoundandlight
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Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for bringing great entertainment to our little city and for believing in this show.
Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.
Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Logan Bell is freelance PA Tech who works in large-scale live concert audio. Over the last decade, he's been contracted through companies like VER and PRG (now combined as a conglomerate) to tour across the world with acts such as Metallica, Styx, J Balvin, John Legend, Santana, Rosalia, Adam Sandler, Daniel Caesar, Janet Jackson, and more. An Ohio native, Logan is a graduate of Full Sail University, where he was Wes's college roommate, and he's currently on tour in Europe flying PA as a Tech for Pantera.
Follow Logan: Instagram
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Thank you to our episode sponsor, Symphonic.
Founded in 2006 by former music producer Jorge Brea, Symphonic Distribution provides thousands of new and established record labels, managers, and artists with global digital music and video distribution to hundreds of retail and streaming platforms, playlist pitching, release promotion, and a comprehensive suite of label services.
A shortlist of Artists and Record Labels who have had their work distributed through Symphonic include: Sublime, Ok Go!, Jon Batiste, Doechii, Melissa Etheridge, Sean Paul, CloZee, Odesza, LS DREAM, Sarah McLachlan, Wally Opus Records, and many more incredibly talented creatives across various genres.
Switch to Symphonic to get your music onto all major platforms and utilize their growing tools and offerings with 25% off your first year of a Starter Package by visiting: https://symphonic.com/starter/ and entering the promo code "everybodyelse" (case sensitive) at check out.
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Eric McLellan is an artist advisor and founder of Yo Peep This, a music marketing and label services company based in New Jersey. He’s also an artist coach at Groover, where he serves the company’s US-based community. Previously, Eric served as an A&R at Warner Music Group working under Seymour Stein for over a decade and has also held roles at Sony Music and Breakr Biz Dev at Gathr.
Follow Eric: Instagram, LinkedIn
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Thank you to our episode sponsor, Groover, for working hard to build a great platform connecting artists with music pros and for believing in this show.
Groover is the global go-to platform for independent artists for all their promotional needs and artist services. It started with a simple but frustrating truth: talented artists weren’t getting heard. Emails went unanswered, demos got lost, and opportunities stayed out of reach. Insert Groover—a platform where artists could finally connect with industry pros, get real feedback, and unlock new career opportunities. Today, 3,000+ pros and curators listen to new tracks from over 500,000+ artists who use Groover to share their music, get feedback, and land real opportunities—over 5M pieces of feedback given, 1M+ shares, reviews, and playlist adds, and 1,500+ label signings.
Visit https://groover.co/en/ to promote your next single and get 15% off your first campaign by using promo code EVERYBODYELSE (good for one campaign). Here's how it can be applied.
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Show host Wes Luttrell shares his unique experience as a stagehand for the local IATSE Union at a recent Jon Pardi concert at the Ford Center in Evansville, IN. In this short solo episode, he reflects on the camaraderie among crew members, the logistics of concert load-outs, and the insights gained about union work and the dedication required to make live music happen.
Follow Wes: Instagram
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"Thank you to Chris Passage, Lora Melone, Scott VanMeter, and Steve VanMeter for providing me with a truly priceless experience." - Wes
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
“Uncle Dave” Kunkel is a retired Radio Personality and Disc Jockey. With a career spanning over 60 years in broadcast, he’s well known for hosting “The Going Home Show” on 98.1 WRAY in Princeton, Indiana. Aside from radio, Dave has guest-hosted The Grand Ole Opry in Nashville five times, DJ’d hundreds of events, and been a longtime volunteer at the Gibson County Fair where he once ran live sound for country music legends like Waylon Jennings, Johnny Cash and June Carter, Hank Williams Jr., and more.
Follow Dave: Facebook
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Thank you to our episode sponsor, Symphonic.
Founded in 2006 by former music producer Jorge Brea, Symphonic Distribution provides thousands of new and established record labels, managers, and artists with global digital music and video distribution to hundreds of retail and streaming platforms, playlist pitching, release promotion, and a comprehensive suite of label services.
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Lora Melone is Director of the 1,950-seat Victory Theatre located in downtown Evansville, Indiana. Starting her career with Venuworks in Food and Beverage at the Ford Center, Lora gradually worked her way into her current role which includes the overseeing of day-to-day venue operations, staff management, and talent booking at the historic Victory where she's secured shows hosting Jason Isbell, Tom Segura, Deana Carter, Ben Folds, Brett Young, and countless others.
Follow Lora: @lora.melone
Follow The Victory: @victory_theatre
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Thank you to our show sponsor, The Victory Theatre, for bringing great entertainment to our little city and for believing in this show.
Located in the heart of downtown Evansville, Indiana, The Victory Theatre is a historic 1,950-seat venue hosting world-class entertainment such as Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, Louis C.K, Deana Carter, and Eddie Griffin, to name a few. Managed by Venuworks, the 124-year-old theatre is also home to the Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra and Signature School, Indiana’s first charter school and a top-raked charter school in the nation.
Visit the Victory Theatre website to browse tickets: https://www.victorytheatre.com/home
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Everybody Else is a podcast dedicated to pulling back the curtain on the lives and work of the music people you don’t see. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music. Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor
Wyatt Mones is a producer, multi-instrumentalist, and live sound engineer who runs front of house for The Main Squeeze and the LA music venue/recording studio Gold-Diggers. As a producer & songwriter, Wyatt is credited with over 6 million streams having written and produced for Calica, Leo Lovechild, Sid Simons, and numerous others. He and his twin brother, Aaron Mones, release original music under their artist moniker, Spillway.
Follow Wyatt > https://www.instagram.com/ttayw/
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This episode of Everybody Else is brought to you by Wally Opus.
Proudly based in Evansville, Indiana, Wally Opus is a record label and artist management company serving a handful of recording artists and bands with distribution, marketing, and management of their projects. With a roster stretching coast-to-coast including acts like The Chugs, Ghost Prom, Leo Lovechild, Spillway, Cathryn Lovett, and more, the small, spirited team of doers helps develop and advance artists in their work and lives through holistic, long term planning and common sense support of their creative endeavors.
Visit https://wallyopus.com/ to see all the fine details.
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Everybody Else is a podcast that pulls back the curtain on the people behind the music industry—the ones you don’t see in the spotlight. From producers and publicists to label execs, venue managers, and beyond, this show dives into the real stories, strategies, and lessons from those building and running the business of music.Whether you're an aspiring artist, a curious fan, or someone working behind the scenes yourself, Everybody Else offers a candid look into what it takes to build a meaningful, lasting career in the always-evolving world of music through engaging dialogue between host, Wes Luttrell, and a plethora of interesting guests.
Follow Wes: Main link
Music by Jim Noir
Artwork by Ethan Douglass
Distributed by Transistor