In this episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum,' host Brooke Wagner has an enlightening conversation with Nancy Marin, a seasoned occupational therapist with over 40 years of experience. Nancy shares her extensive background in Neuro-Developmental Treatment (NDT), sensory processing, yoga, reiki, and the listening program (TLP) and discusses how she weaves these modalities together in her private practice, Occu Play Inc. in Northeast Florida. She emphasizes the importance of viewing the individual holistically and the significance of family involvement. Nancy also shares breakthrough stories, advice for families, and the importance of maintaining hope and perseverance in the journey of supporting neurodiverse children.
00:00 Introduction to Sensory Integration
01:31 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
02:12 Introducing Special Guest: Nancy Marin
03:30 Nancy's Journey into Occupational Therapy
06:34 Establishing a Private Practice
10:10 Understanding Neurodevelopmental Treatment (NDT)
15:04 Integrating Sensory and Motor Systems
20:15 Addressing Sensory Processing at the Cellular Level
25:20 Gathering Information and Diagnosing Sensory Challenges
33:16 The Role of Sensory Processing in Daily Life
36:02 Understanding Movement and Sensory Integration
37:46 The Importance of Sensory Foundations
40:27 Repetition and Neuroplasticity
42:19 The Listening Program (TLP)
49:04 Yoga and Reiki in Occupational Therapy
57:24 Integrating Multiple Therapeutic Approaches
01:01:04 Resources and Final Thoughts
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Resources
www.advancedbraintechnologies.com
In this episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum,' host Brooke interviews Jessica Richards, a clinical expert with over 15 years of experience, about selective mutism. They delve into what selective mutism is, distinguishing it from trauma-based mutism, and discuss its prevalence and symptoms. Jessica shares insights into how sensory processing and a child's nervous system play crucial roles in managing this anxiety-based disorder. They explore strategies and practical tips, including a detailed discussion on the 'fade-in' and 'fade-out' processes to help children gradually communicate in various settings. The importance of parent coaching and creating supportive environments both in-home and school settings are emphasized. The episode offers hope and actionable steps for families and professionals working with children affected by selective mutism.
00:00 Introduction to Sensory Inputs and Language
01:04 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
01:46 Guest Introduction: Jessica Richards
02:23 Understanding Selective Mutism
04:02 Selective Mutism in Children
07:02 Anxiety and Stress Responses
14:24 Common Myths About Selective Mutism
19:52 Coaching Model and Strategies
29:18 Introduction to Structured Parenting
30:19 Declarative Communication and Autism
30:56 Comorbidity of Selective Mutism and Autism
31:57 The Ladder Concept in Communication
41:29 Fading Out Process in Parent Sessions
45:54 Sensory Processing and Selective Mutism
51:48 Support for Professionals and Parents
54:38 Resources and Final Thoughts
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Neurorelational Framework: nrfcare.org/starter-kit
Resources
https://www.selectivemutism.org/
In this episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum,' Brooke hosts Sara Intonato, founder of 'Autism Change Makers.' They discuss the pervasive PTSD experienced by autism parents and the essential role of parent wellbeing. Sara shares her journey from a yoga teacher to an autism advocate after her son Rocco's diagnosis. They delve into the importance of emotional health for the entire family, the concept of presuming competence, and effective self-care strategies, including breathwork and meditation. Sara emphasizes that parents are the true changemakers for their children and discusses the supportive community and resources available through 'Autism Change Makers.' Tune in for inspiring stories and practical advice to help families thrive.
00:00 Introduction: The Hidden Struggles of Autism Parents
01:10 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
01:51 Today's Topic: Wellbeing of Parents and Caregivers
02:01 Meet Sara Intonato: Founder of Autism Change Makers
03:05 Sara's Journey: From Yoga Teacher to Autism Advocate
04:57 Creating a Supportive Community for Autism Parents
08:49 The Importance of Presuming Competence
13:35 Parental Empowerment: Becoming the Changemaker
20:50 The Role of Self-Care in Autism Parenting
31:52 Parent Stress Tools and Self-Care Workshops
33:40 Starting with Simple Self-Care Practices
34:37 The Importance of Self-Worth and Overcoming Martyrdom
36:36 Building Wins and Understanding Stress Addiction
38:23 The Subconscious Mind and Identity Shifts
42:01 Co-Regulation and Parental Self-Care
42:41 The Lighthouse Metaphor and Handling Intense Behaviors
52:45 The Role of Community and Support Circles
58:28 Final Thoughts and Words of Wisdom
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In this episode of Finding Hope on the Spectrum, host Brooke engages in a heartfelt conversation with Carla Shein, founder and president of Empathy for Autism California Inc. Carla shares her personal journey of raising two autistic children, her own autism diagnosis, and her experiences growing up with a sibling on the spectrum. The discussion covers the importance of community support, empathy, and cultural humility in supporting families with neurodivergent members. Carla also talks about her podcast, books, and upcoming events aimed at empowering families and professionals in the autism community.
00:00 The Power of Embracing Uniqueness
01:34 Introduction to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
02:12 Meet Carla Shein: Advocate and Mother
04:05 Growing Up with a Sibling on the Spectrum
06:10 Parenting Two Autistic Children
10:26 Discovering Her Own Autism Diagnosis
13:07 Empathy for Autism California: Mission and Services
18:54 Supporting the Whole Family with Empathy
24:24 Empowering Through Understanding
24:55 The Concept of Glass Children
26:45 Balancing Attention Among Siblings
30:43 Professional Empathy and Cultural Humility
33:37 Books for Parents and Professionals
37:23 The Power of Storytelling in Podcasts
39:27 Upcoming Speaking Event
41:08 Final Thoughts and Resources
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In this episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum,' Brooke welcomes back Gail Ludwig, an experienced RDI program certified consultant and speech-language pathologist, to discuss the vital developmental milestone of coordinating actions. This conversation is part three of a three-part series, focusing on practical strategies and the importance of authentic communication through joint activities. Brooke and Gail delve into the developmental stages, from referencing to complex collaborative tasks, emphasizing the significance of engagement, emotional connection, and gradual scaffolding in enhancing coordination skills. They also reflect on the importance of framing activities, the dynamic nature of interactions, and celebrating small successes. This episode offers invaluable insights for parents, professionals, and caregivers seeking to foster meaningful connections with neurodiverse individuals.
00:00 Introduction to Authentic Communication
01:10 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
01:52 Introducing Gail Ludwig
02:11 Understanding Coordinating Actions
05:35 Foundations of Coordinating Actions
08:19 Practical Examples and Strategies
11:00 Importance of Dynamic Interaction
14:11 Real-Life Applications and Success Stories
21:31 Incorporating Coordinating Actions in Daily Routines
27:39 The Role of Siblings and Family in Development
28:56 Shifting from Doing For to Doing With
29:43 Scaffolding Coordinating Actions
29:48 The Importance of Framing
30:59 Inviting Participation
32:13 Preloading for Success
32:57 Supporting Transitions
33:36 Spotlighting Teamwork
37:39 The Value of Slowing Down
39:14 Emotional Engagement
48:37 Reflecting on Success
49:46 Final Words and Resources
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In this episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum,' host Brooke delves into the transformative world of equine-assisted therapy. Joined by Kelly Russo and Dr. Robyn Wyzinski, they explore how horseback riding can offer significant therapeutic benefits for children with neurodivergent conditions. Sharing a touching personal story about Kelly's goddaughter, Cece, the conversation highlights the incredible impact of this therapy on strength, balance, and confidence. The guests also discuss the formation and mission of the nonprofit Center X, the nuances between hippotherapy and adaptive riding, and the extensive community effort required to facilitate these therapeutic sessions. The episode is a heartfelt exploration of hope, community, and the life-changing potential of horses.
00:00 Introduction to Equine Therapy
01:11 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
01:54 Meet Our Guests: Kelly Russo and Robyn Wyzinski
04:25 The Birth of Center X
08:30 Understanding Angelman Syndrome
16:30 The Journey to Find the Right Therapy Horse
22:19 The Healing Power of Horses
31:09 Creating a Predictable Routine for Therapy
31:28 Progressing Through Different Positions and Movements
32:25 Functional Tasks and Independent Mobility
33:29 Emotional Connections with Horses
36:12 Building a Volunteer Community
39:50 Halloween Costumes and Community Projects
42:01 Advice for Families Considering Equine Therapy
50:19 Future Goals and Expansion Plans
54:45 Encouraging Community Support and Donations
58:32 Final Thoughts and Gratitude
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In this heart-opening episode of Finding Hope on the Spectrum, host Brooke sits down with Michelle Hardy, a board-certified music therapist and spelling-to-communicate practitioner with over 25 years of experience supporting individuals with autism. Michelle shares how music becomes more than melody—it becomes movement, connection, and voice. Through rhythm and relationship, she shows how music therapy can unlock non-musical skills like communication, regulation, and confidence. Together, they explore the power of whole-body learning, sensory awareness, and the importance of presuming competence in every child. Michelle also opens up about her own journey into music therapy and offers insight on finding practitioners who truly understand the neurodevelopmental experience of autism. This episode is a reminder that when we listen with our hearts—and not just our ears—music has the power to connect us beyond words.
00:00 Introduction to Functional Skills Through Music
01:28 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
02:19 Introducing Michelle Hardy
03:17 Michelle's Journey into Music Therapy
05:39 Discovering the Power of Rhythm in Autism
08:39 Spelling to Communicate: An Overview
15:12 Understanding Whole Body Apraxia
29:29 The Role of Sensory Processing in Autism
35:04 A Chance Encounter on the Airport Shuttle
35:59 Facing the Thesis Defense
37:58 Introduction to Body Coaching
40:09 Breaking Down Motor Plans
46:42 Understanding Stuck Loops
53:01 The Importance of Sensory Accommodations
57:26 Final Thoughts on Apraxia and Music Therapy
01:01:19 Resources and Mentorship for Music Therapists
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In this episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum,' host Brooke has an in-depth conversation with Brooke Ober, a seasoned speech-language pathologist and the executive director of the SKOLA school. They explore the innovative educational model of SKOLA, a nature-based, project-focused independent school that emphasizes the importance of authentic, meaningful learning integrated with the environment. Brooke Ober discusses the school's four core pillars—education, self, community, and nature—and how these elements create profound learning experiences. They delve into the school's unique methods, such as 'risky play' and 'sit spots,' which foster self-regulation, problem-solving, and situational awareness among students, especially those who are neurodiverse. Brooke Ober shares heartwarming success stories of neurodiverse students thriving in this inclusive model and reflects on the broader implications of adopting such educational approaches. The episode offers insights for parents, educators, and advocates interested in holistic, nature-driven support for neurodiverse children.
00:00 Introduction to Risky Play in Scandinavian Countries
01:19 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
02:14 Introducing Brooke Ober: Speech Language Pathologist
03:19 The Unique Setting of the SKOLA School
05:12 Brooke's Journey to Founding the SKOLA School
11:25 Core Values and Pillars of the SKOLA School
21:47 The Power of Nature in Education
30:58 The Importance of Mapmaking and Spatial Awareness
32:16 Creating Zones for Better Learning
33:20 The Role of Technology in Spatial Understanding
35:27 Reflecting to Enhance Learning
37:53 Incorporating Neurodiverse Students
44:17 Supporting Families and Extending Learning at Home
48:07 Success Stories and Future Goals
53:20 Final Thoughts and How to Support the School
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In this episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum,' host Brooke discusses the critical topic of social referencing with Gail Ludwig, an RDI program certified consultant and speech-language pathologist. Gail shares her extensive experience working with autistic individuals and explains the concept of referencing, its importance for emotional connection and communication, and how it can be nurtured in autistic children. The conversation covers practical strategies and activities, such as using 'Magic Soup' and creating anticipation, to help children develop this skill. The episode also highlights the significance of neural connectivity and offers words of hope for parents. Listeners can learn more about RDI and Gail’s programs by visiting TAG's website (www.tagforgrowth.com).
00:00 Introduction to Social Referencing
01:16 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
01:58 Guest Introduction: Gail Ludwig
04:50 Gail's Journey into Speech Pathology and RDI
09:01 Understanding RDI and Its Importance
11:03 The Value of Referencing in Autism
19:44 Challenges and Strategies in Teaching Referencing
27:51 Integrating Skills into Daily Life
28:27 The Natural Progression of Referencing
32:02 Activities to Enhance Referencing
35:51 Referencing for Help and Environmental Awareness
37:59 Referencing in Adults
42:51 The Importance of Scaffolding
45:42 Encouragement and Final Thoughts
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In this episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum,' Brooke interviews Amanda Crowell, an RN, BSN, and mother of special needs children, about her journey from traditional nursing to advocating for integrative and biomedical approaches to autism. Amanda shares her personal story of her children's health challenges and developmental regressions, which she ties to their 12-month vaccinations. She describes how her quest for answers led her to holistic and integrative treatments that significantly improved her children's conditions. Amanda also discusses the importance of diet, reducing toxins, sleep, and gut health. Additionally, she emphasizes the significance of working with MAPS (Medical Academy of Pediatric Special Needs) doctors and highlights current research findings linking vaccines to increased risks of neurodevelopmental disorders. The episode aims to inspire and educate parents and professionals about alternative healing paths for children with autism.
00:00 A Mother's Struggle: Searching for Answers
01:39 Introduction to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
02:26 Meet Amanda Crowell: A Journey from Nurse to Special Needs Mom
03:56 Blending Conventional Nursing with MAPS Approaches
05:25 Amanda's Personal Health Journey and Her Children's Struggles
09:39 The Turning Point: A Devastating Illness
14:05 Discovering MAPS and the Path to Healing
23:09 Understanding Cerebral Folate Deficiency
26:22 Defining Biomedical Treatments for Autism
28:23 Integrating Holistic Approaches with Nursing
31:12 Foundational Steps for Families: Diet, Toxins, and Sleep
35:29 Understanding Histamine and Its Effects on Children
36:28 The Importance of Sleep for Brain Detoxification
37:34 Exploring PANS and PANDAS
39:41 Leaky Gut and Its Implications
41:03 The Role of Leucovorin in Treating Cerebral Folate Deficiency
47:27 Challenges in Holistic and Functional Medicine
51:11 Vaccine Controversies and Personal Experiences
01:00:45 Resources and Final Thoughts
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Recommended Resources
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by Paul Thomas
Website Recommendations
Vax Facts: What to Consider Before Vaccinating at All Ages & Stages of Life
In this episode of Finding Hope on the Spectrum, host Brooke has an engaging conversation with Amy Sage, co-founder of Parenting EQ. They explore the underutilized tool of reflection in parenting and the significance of emotional intelligence (EI) for both neurodiverse children and parents. Amy shares her journey in creating the Parenting EQ life skills curriculum, highlighting its origins during the COVID-19 pandemic and its widespread adoption in homeschool and charter school settings. The discussion covers the essential competencies of emotional intelligence, the program’s structure, and practical strategies for nurturing EI in kids. They underline the importance of modeling and practice, the benefits of screen-free tools, and the vital role of community support. Through real-life examples, Amy illustrates the transformative impact of her curriculum on children’s emotional well-being and resilience. They also touch on future plans to expand the curriculum’s reach to include teens and various educational professionals.
00:00 The Power of Reflection in Parenting
01:29 Introduction to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
02:19 Meet Amy Sage: Co-Founder of Parenting EQ
03:42 The Journey to Creating Parenting EQ
07:35 Understanding Emotional Intelligence
12:59 The Importance of Social Emotional Learning
16:24 Components of the Parenting EQ Curriculum
30:11 Adapting Curriculum for Different Age Groups
33:45 Practicing Emotional Skills
33:58 Learning Emotional Intelligence Together
35:30 Structuring Lessons and Activities
36:47 Flexible Learning Approaches
37:54 Interactive Family Discussions
41:21 Screen-Free Support Tools
45:59 Teaching Competencies in Depth
48:03 Direct Instruction and Self-Regulation
53:47 Community and Support Networks
57:58 Future Directions and Success Stories
01:04:14 Accessing the Curriculum
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In this episode of Finding Hope on the Spectrum, host Brooke welcomes Jessica Richards, a seasoned expert in clinical social work and child development. They discuss the importance of understanding behavior as the "tip of the iceberg," influenced by underlying nervous system mechanisms. The conversation dives into Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) and the Neuro-Relational Framework (NRF), emphasizing the significance of the nervous system, relationships, and individual differences in managing stress responses. With a focus on autism and the broader neurodiverse community, Jessica shares insights on individualized approaches, environmental supports, and communication styles, offering practical strategies for parents and professionals. This episode aims to provide inspiration, insight, and hope, encouraging listeners to focus on green zone moments for effective support.
00:00 Understanding Behavior: The Iceberg Metaphor
01:01 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
02:15 Introducing Jessica Richards: Expertise in Neuro Relational Framework
04:02 Jessica's Journey into Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA)
05:43 Defining PDA: Pathological Demand Avoidance
07:55 The Neuro Relational Framework Explained
12:29 Understanding the Autonomic Nervous System
17:31 Recognizing Stress Responses in PDA
20:04 Why Traditional Behavioral Approaches Fail
30:40 Understanding the Biomedical Model and Autism
33:13 Strategies for Growth and Flexibility
34:50 Using Humor, Novelty, and Play in Therapy
36:00 Sensory Strategies and Individualized Approaches
41:21 The Importance of Presuming Competence
43:42 Environmental Supports for PDA
48:30 Effective Communication Styles
51:49 Promoting the Green Zone
55:14 Resources and Final Thoughts
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Neurorelational Framework: nrfcare.org/starter-kit
Sleep-Wake States Arc: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mlOa7Y0R9599oF1jF0dmEC0FIpPFtKzR/view?usp=drive_linkSafety-Challenge-Threat Triad: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vzV2f6UbWeasIX_kTiXzunleRXGzHNGh/view?usp=drive_linkNRF's Three Steps to Resilience: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EIzVZGD--aE6XZye3W2tbvvmSq_3b7nS/view?usp=drive_link
In this episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum,' host Brooke delves into the transformative impact of neuro music-based interventions with Alex Doman, an entrepreneur, author, and founder of Advanced Brain Technologies. They discuss how connecting to oneself can enhance safety, communication, and interaction for individuals, especially those on the autism spectrum. Alex shares the origins and evolution of The Listening Program (TLP), its accessibility, and its profound benefits for sensory integration, communication, and executive function. The episode also touches upon the importance of high-quality headphones, the role of practitioners in guiding families, and exciting new advancements in neurotechnologies. Packed with insights and practical advice, this conversation aims to offer hope and inspiration to the neurodiverse community.
00:00 Introduction to Self-Connection and Environment
01:01 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
01:54 Today's Topic: Neuro Music Based Intervention
02:12 Guest Introduction: Alex Doman
07:40 The Evolution of Advanced Brain Technologies
07:53 The Listening Program: Accessibility and Effectiveness
10:41 The Role of Technology in Neuro Music Interventions
11:44 Understanding Different Neuro Music-Based Interventions
22:54 The Importance of High-Quality Headphones
27:32 Sensory Modulation and the Listening Program
31:10 Setting Goals with the Listening Program
31:27 The Listening Program's Legacy and Family Integration
32:12 Tools and Assessments for Participants
33:35 Working with Practitioners
36:20 Becoming a Listening Program Practitioner
38:05 The Evolution and Benefits of the Listening Program
41:18 Consultations and Initial Steps for Families
42:13 Shifts in Understanding Autism and Sensory Processing
49:17 Future Innovations and Vital Neuro
52:03 Resources and Contact Information
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In this episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum,' host Brooke reconnects with Gail Ludwig, RDI® Program Certified Consultant and Licensed Speech Language Pathologist, for the first installment of a three-part series exploring the foundational elements of RDI® (Relationship Development Intervention). This episode focuses on experience sharing as the cornerstone of all human connection and relationships. The conversation examines how experience sharing develops naturally in typical childhood development and provides practical strategies for RDI® consultants and families working with autistic individuals. Gail shares personal stories from her experiences as both a professional and grandmother, illustrating the profound joy that comes from meaningful emotional connections. The discussion emphasizes that experience sharing is a fundamental human right and explores how to create optimal environments for fostering these crucial developmental milestones at any age or ability level.
00:00 Opening Story: The Baby Whisperer
00:31 The Energy of Connection and Regulation
01:05 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
02:00 Introducing the Three-Part RDI® Series
04:00 Meet Gail Ludwig: RDI Expert and Speech Pathologist
04:32 Experience Sharing as Foundation of Human Connection
06:00 Typical Development: First Two Months
08:00 The Role of Emotional Regulation
09:00 Personal Stories: Soothing Granddaughters
10:00 Creating Comfort and Safety
11:08 Social Smiles: Two to Three Months
12:51 The Beginning of Back-and-Forth Flow
13:57 Shared Joy and Turn-Taking: Four to Five Months
15:40 Personal Reflections on Connecting with Grandchildren
18:18 The Human Right to Connection
19:37 Recognition and Shared Affect: Six to Seven Months
21:31 Emotional Referencing and Seeking Support
22:35 Intentional Interaction: Eight to Nine Months
24:51 Joint Attention and Complex Sharing: Ten to Twelve Months
26:29 Referencing for Approval and Boundary Testing
29:11 Personal Story: Anticipation and Connection
29:45 The First Relationship Book Reference
31:52 Understanding Autism and Experience Sharing Challenges
35:00 Creating Regulation and Safety
36:46 Removing Sensory Overload
40:02 Finding Meaningful Activities for Each Child
42:29 Declarative Communication and Taking Pressure Off
45:01 The Power of Anticipation and Transition Cues
46:25 Co-Regulatory Patterns in RDI Work
48:43 Framing Interactions for Success
49:43 Nonverbal Experience Sharing
51:00 Experience Sharing Across All Ages
52:22 The Gift of Shared Joy for FamiliesConnect with Finding Hope on the Spectrum:
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The First Relationship, by Daniel Stern
In this episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum,' host Brooke sits down with Betsy Hicks- Russ, Director of the Autism Odyssey podcast, and creator of Picking Eating Solutions. Betsy shares her poignant journey with her non-speaking, autistic son Joey, discussing the challenges and discoveries in understanding his awareness through spelling to communicate (S2C). The conversation delves into Joey’s profound intelligence, humor, and deep emotional connections, as well as the critical need for raising awareness about apraxia. They explore the intersection of spelling and telepathy, highlighting the immense potential for these individuals to lead in a more evolved form of interaction. Betsy also emphasizes the importance of diet, purposeful movement, and mindfulness in managing the well-being of autistic individuals. This heartwarming and insightful discussion offers invaluable advice for families embarking on the journey of spelling to communicate with their children.
00:00 Introduction and Personal Regret
00:54 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
01:39 Introducing Special Guest: Betsy Hicks
03:29 Joey's Journey with Autism
04:41 Discovering Spelling to Communicate
09:38 Understanding Apraxia
13:48 Daily Practices and Lessons
16:56 Joey's Interests and Learning
20:53 The Importance of Presuming Competence
25:24 Joey's Humor and Affection
27:30 The Gift of Spelling
29:05 Telepathy and Communication
31:14 Exciting Developments in the Field
31:52 The Hill: A Gathering Place for Non-Speakers
36:39 Understanding Telepathy and Its Implications
41:32 The Importance of Mindfulness for Parents
50:58 Practical Advice for Families with Non-Speakers
58:42 Betsy's Resources and Final Thoughts
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In this episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum,' host Brooke sits down with Laura Sylvester, co-founder and executive director of Good Dog Service Canines, to discuss the profound impact service dogs have on autistic individuals and their families. Laura shares the intricate process of breeding, training, and placing these specially trained dogs, including the unique apprentice trainer program affiliated with Bergen University. Listeners will hear heartfelt stories of transformation, especially how these service dogs provide crucial emotional and sensory support, enabling greater independence and quality of life. Laura also sheds light on the difference between service dogs and therapy dogs, and discusses the significant financial, emotional, and logistical considerations involved in obtaining and handling these wonderful animals. Finally, listeners will learn about the new initiatives and future goals for Good Dog Service Canines, including a promising new online training program to help meet the growing demand for autism service dogs.
00:00 Introduction to Service Dog Breeding and Training
00:59 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
02:01 Introducing Laura Sylvester and Good Dog Service Canines
04:42 Understanding Service Dogs for Autism
07:11 The Impact of Service Dogs: Personal Stories
13:55 Training and Customizing Service Dogs for Individual Needs
31:29 The Journey of Training a Service Dog
34:08 Training the Families: Transitioning to Service Dog Ownership
37:17 Matching Dogs with Families: The Science Behind It
41:39 Retirement and Successor Dogs: Navigating the Next Steps
45:10 The Cost of Service Dogs: Fundraising and Financial Support
47:47 Future Plans: Addressing the Service Dog Shortage
53:38 Inspirational Stories: The Impact of Service Dogs
59:20 Community Support and Partnerships
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Guest Contact:
Email: laura@gooddogautism.orgWebsite: https://www.gooddogservicecanines.org/
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In this episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum,' Brooke is joined by Stephanie Myung, a PDA autism mom and former Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA), to discuss the challenges and experiences of raising a child with Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA). Stephanie shares her personal story of navigating her son's intense autistic burnout, the difficulties of obtaining a proper diagnosis and services, and the paradigm shifts she experienced from her former career as a behavior analyst to her current advocacy work. Stephanie provides insights into PDA behavior, common misconceptions about autism, and strategies for parents to handle such complex situations, emphasizing the importance of non-reactive parenting, community support, and understanding the neurobiological aspects of behavior. The episode aims to spread awareness, offer practical advice, and encourage a compassionate approach in supporting individuals with PDA and their families.
00:00 Introduction to PDA Parenting
01:35 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
02:39 Introducing Stephanie Mayan
04:01 Stephanie's Journey with PDA and Autism
05:51 Understanding PDA and Autism Burnout
09:39 Challenges and Misconceptions in PDA
14:39 Navigating the School System with PDA
34:40 Impact on Siblings and Family Dynamics
36:13 Navigating Sibling Dynamics and Misophonia
37:01 The Importance of Separating Siblings for Individual Time
37:27 Challenges and Strategies for Parents
38:13 Understanding PDA and Finding Community Support
39:02 Effective Strategies for Managing PDA
42:15 The Role of Parents in PDA Management
43:38 Self-Care and Support for Parents
56:33 Advocacy and Raising Awareness
01:01:03 Concluding Thoughts and Resources
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Email: bwagner@findinghopeonthespectrum.com
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Instagram: @the_rehumanization_project
Recommended Books:
The Declarative Language Handbook: Using a Thoughtful Language Style to Help Kids with Social Learning Challenges Feel Competent, Connected, and Understood, By Linda Murphy
Recommended Articles
https://www.psychotherapynetworker.org/article/the-pda-lens/
Recommended Professionals
https://www.peacefulparenthappykids.com/
https://www.jessicarichardslcsw.com/
Poppy and the Overactive Amygdala, By Holly Rae Provan
Low-Demand Parenting, By Amanda Diekman
The Educator’s Experience of Pathological Demand Avoidance: An Illustrated Guide to Pathological Demand Avoidance and Learning, By Laura Kerbey
This episode of 'Finding Hope on the Spectrum' features a heart-to-heart conversation between Brooke and Linda Murphy, a speech language pathologist and RDI consultant. They delve into the concept of declarative communication, especially its use with autistic individuals. The discussion covers the benefits of adopting a positive intention in communication, moving away from imperative communication, and fostering authentic engagement with children. They also touch on the importance of noticing stress responses (fight, flight, or freeze) and how to respond in the moment to set the child up for success. Linda shares insights on how declarative communication supports social emotional development and self-agency, and provides practical strategies for parents and professionals to integrate this approach into everyday interactions. The episode also highlights the importance of pacing, processing time, and responding to safety situations. Listeners are encouraged to start small, reflecting on their current communication habits, and to build from there. Resources from Linda's books and website, Declarativelanguage.com, are also mentioned, offering further guidance on mastering declarative communication.
00:00 Introduction to Declarative Communication
00:59 Welcome to Finding Hope on the Spectrum
02:30 Introducing Today's Guest: Linda Murphy
03:46 Understanding Declarative Communication
07:05 Imperative vs. Declarative Communication
09:05 The Importance of Positive Intention
10:02 The Role of Questions in Declarative Communication
16:14 Recognizing and Addressing Stress Responses
19:34 Shifting from Imperative to Declarative Communication
22:52 The Power of Pacing and Processing Time
28:39 Exploring Social Emotional Development
30:03 Promoting Self-Agency and Autonomy
30:41 Real-Life Examples of Self-Agency
32:33 The Power of Declarative Language
33:05 Common Imperative Communication in Families
35:13 Effective Alternatives to Imperative Communication
37:25 The Importance of Providing Context and the 'Why'
39:20 When Imperative Communication is Necessary
45:25 Practical Tips for Using Declarative Communication
49:51 Resources and Final Thoughts
Connect with Finding Hope on the Spectrum:
Email: bwagner@findinghopeonthespectrum.com
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Guest Contact:
linda@pptfth.comdeclarativelanguage.com
peerprojectstherapyfromtheheart.com
Guest Book: Declarative Language Handbook: Using a Thoughtful Language Style to Help Kids with Social Learning Challenges Feel Competent, Connected, and Understood
In this episode, the host discusses Gestalt language processing with Lauren Conley, a bilingual speech language pathologist and RDI Program Certified Consultant. Lauren explains the distinct stages of Gestalt language processing and how it contrasts with typical language acquisition. She shares personal anecdotes and practical tips for parents, caregivers, and educators on how to support children who use the Gestalt method for language learning. Topics include the importance of meaningful engagement, detecting and modeling language, and integrating AAC devices. Lauren highlights how understanding Gestalt language processing can transform the approach to language intervention for autistic children.
00:00 Introduction to Gestalt Language Processing
01:41 Meet Our Expert: Lauren Conley
02:26 Understanding Gestalt Language Processing
05:59 Common Myths and Misconceptions
12:13 The Importance of Professional Support
14:06 Exploring the Stages of Gestalt Language Processing
27:44 Understanding Grammar Stages
29:27 Echo and Scripting in Gestalt Language Processing
30:11 Supporting Children at Different Levels
36:00 Tips for Stage Two and Beyond
46:24 Using AAC Devices for Gestalt Language Processors
51:44 Advice for Teachers and Caregivers
55:04 Resources and Final ThoughtsConnect with Finding Hope on the Spectrum:
Email: bwagner@findinghopeonthespectrum.com
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https://www.instagram.com/dynamic_expression.slp/
In this episode, the importance of wellbeing and autism is explored, particularly through the lens of the Relationship Development Intervention (RDI) program. Featuring guest Lisa Palasti, a certified RDI consultant, director of professional training in Canada, and founder of Mindful Guide Consulting, the discussion delves into her personal journey as a parent of two children with special needs and how it inspired her to become an RDI professional. The conversation highlights critical areas of development such as emotional regulation, flexible thinking, perspective sharing, and problem-solving, emphasizing the significance of parental empowerment in promoting long-term wellbeing and quality of life for autistic individuals. Insights are also shared on the upcoming wellbeing-focused conference in London, UK. This episode is a profound exploration of how RDI can create a positive impact on families navigating autism.
00:00 The Importance of Courage and Learning from Mistakes
01:03 Introducing Our Special Guest: Lisa Palasti
03:46 Lisa's Journey as an RDI Parent
05:54 Discovering RDI: A Life-Changing Moment
10:54 Implementing RDI and Becoming a Consultant
14:01 Celebrating Success and Wellbeing
20:50 The Power of Parental Instincts and Empowerment
22:31 The Role of Nonverbal Communication in RDI
27:37 Breaking Down Development into Manageable Chunks
31:46 The Concept of Wellbeing and Quality of Life
33:53 The Importance of Emotional Regulation
34:35 Building Resiliency in Children
34:51 The Role of Co-Regulation
36:21 Flexible Thinking and Problem-Solving
37:44 Embracing Mistakes for Growth
40:32 Parental Guidance and Child Development
46:22 Perspective Sharing and Social Relationships
49:30 Problem-Solving and Adaptability
52:38 Reflecting on Personal Growth
58:56 Upcoming Conference on Wellbeing
Connect with Finding Hope on the Spectrum:
Email: bwagner@findinghopeonthespectrum.com
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Guest Contact: lisapalasti@gmail.com
Upcoming Conference: https://autismconnect.net/supporting-autistic-well-being/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAadkL7Pifm7PV85y4smjFWQEuWOyxE5kOOf2v4IadhUp8pRgY42DH4fayrLecA_aem_UvgVD4MDCQpjnH5roGX_lA