In this episode of The Fire Protection Podcast, host Drew Slocum welcomes back John Mackey, an industry advisor and experienced fire protection leader. Together, they discuss the current state of the fire and life safety industry and share early insights from Inspect Point’s upcoming Fire & Life Safety Industry Report. Drew and John reflect on the major themes of 2025, including continued industry consolidation, shifting market dynamics between installation and service, and why recurring inspection, testing, and maintenance revenue has become the foundation of long-term business value. Drawing from real platform data, Drew shares early findings that show how inspections drive significant downstream revenue through deficiencies, proposals, and compliance-driven work. The conversation also explores how data and technology are reshaping the industry—from field service management platforms to third-party compliance reporting—and why insurance carriers, AHJs, and municipalities are demanding greater visibility into inspection results. John explains how these forces are accelerating accountability while creating new opportunities for contractors who invest in the right tech stack, processes, and reporting discipline. Looking ahead to 2026 and beyond, Drew and John discuss labor challenges, the growing importance of service-centric business models, private equity activity across contractors and FireTech, and how AI and industry-specific data will enhance efficiency without replacing the technician in the field. This episode sets the stage for the upcoming Fire & Life Safety Industry Report, offering contractors, executives, and industry leaders a data-backed perspective on where the market is headed—and how to prepare for what’s next.

In Episode 89, Drew Slocum welcomes Scott Reynolds, Co-Founder and CEO of UpCodes, for a deep dive into the future of building codes, AI-driven code research, and the growing need for accessible, reliable, and continually updated code information across the built environment. Scott shares the origin story of UpCodes, starting with his early career in architecture—working internationally in Hong Kong and later in New York City—where he experienced firsthand how difficult it is to navigate complex, fragmented, and frequently changing building and fire codes. That frustration eventually led Scott and his brother (a software engineer) to create UpCodes—a platform designed to unify, structure, and simplify access to codes and amendments across all 50 states and hundreds of local jurisdictions. Episode 89 provides an insightful look at how technology, transparency, and collaboration can reshape fire protection, design, and construction for the better.

Fire protection is getting an AI-powered upgrade, and the real winners are the professionals in the field. In this episode, Drew and Inspect Point CEO Pat Doyle break down how agentic Al is streamlining inspection workflows, boosting code compliance, and making design review faster (and smarter). They explore hands-on use cases, future-proof skills, and the impact of data-driven decisions on real job sites. Listen, learn, and level up your business.

In this episode of The Fire Protection Podcast, host Drew Slocum sits down with Grant Lobdell, President of Dyne Fire Protection Labs, to discuss one of the most pressing issues facing the fire protection industry today—sprinkler testing and system maintenance.

In this episode of The Fire Protection Podcast, host Drew Slocum sits down with Jason Leopoldo, President of JEM Systems, to discuss how his company is redefining what it means to be a fire protection distributor. Jason shares how JEM Systems evolved from a traditional materials provider into a value-driven partner offering fire alarm, sprinkler, BDA, and BIM design services that help integrators overcome labor shortages and grow their businesses. They dive into the challenges of the post-COVID supply chain, the shift away from “just-in-time” inventory, and how engineering and distribution are converging to create new opportunities in the fire protection industry. Jason also offers insight into emerging trends around AI, data connectivity, and the future of code-driven fire system integration. From hands-on training to innovative software partnerships, this conversation explores how collaboration and technology are shaping the next generation of fire and life safety solutions.

NFPA President Jim Pauley joins host Drew Slocum to trace how 130 years of codes and standards—from NFPA 13 to the Life Safety Code—were forged by tragedy and continually updated to keep pace with new risks. He explains NFPA’s self-funded nonprofit model (not government-funded) and why broad awareness campaigns like “Code for Every Moment” and the social-first “Reverse Renovations” matter as politics and delayed adoptions chip away at safety. Pauley also unpacks the Pro Codes Act—how it protects the copyright that funds standards while still guaranteeing public read access—and warns about AI “hallucinations” creeping into life-safety answers, making the case for vetted, domain-specific models that support (not replace) the trades. If you care about safe buildings, consistent adoption, and trustworthy guidance in the AI era, this conversation is a must-listen.

Discover how ACE Fire Systems transformed from installation-focused work into a thriving service-driven business. Karsten Smith shares how recurring revenue, customer care, and embracing technology have reshaped fire protection in Las Vegas and beyond. Learn strategies for compliance, building strong client relationships, and navigating industry shifts from AHJ platforms to AI. Hear real-world lessons fire professionals can use today to strengthen resilience, grow revenue, and deliver lasting value.

Training, code compliance, and cross-training boost safety, efficiency, and profitability in fire protection. Rob Stewart of Fire Tech shares why both technicians and back-office teams need targeted education, how evolving codes and AHJ requirements create opportunities, and the ROI of a solid training plan. Discover strategies to adapt to jurisdictional differences, use digital documentation effectively, and build a cross-trained team prepared for the industry’s future.

Dakota Farmer didn’t just start a fire alarm business: he challenged industry norms. In this episode, he shares how he went from apprentice to founder, designing systems solo, choosing open hardware, and using FireCAD to cut timelines drastically. With zero advertising and a trust-first model, Dakota built a thriving business through referrals alone. If you're ready to ditch red tape and build on your own terms, this conversation is your blueprint for freedom and impact.

Drew chats with Glen Tipton, Director of Solution Engineering at BuildOps, about bridging the gap between install and service in the fire protection world. They dive into how BuildOps’ new partnership with Inspect Point is helping contractors streamline project management, inspections, and compliance. Packed with insights on recurring revenue, workforce challenges, and real-world tech adoption, this is a must-listen for anyone in fire life safety looking to level up operations.

Join host Drew Slocum as he sits down with Kyle Jarvenpaa, VP of Business Development at Space Age Electronics, a company specializing in fire and life safety system components since 1963. Kyle pulls back the curtain on Space Age's unique "niche within a niche," discussing their role in supporting OEMs, contractors, and engineers through complementary products and a focus on efficiency. Dive deep into the practical applications of NFPA 241 for safeguarding construction sites, learn about innovative wireless temporary fire alarm solutions, and explore the complexities of smoke control systems and firefighter override panels. Kyle also shares insights on industry consolidation, the value of partnerships, the evolution of system documentation with products like Acer boxes, and Space Age's commitment to education through their Ignite series. Tune in to hear about code compliance challenges, driving installation efficiency, and how Space Age collaborates across the fire protection landscape.

Host Drew Slocum sits down with August and Tony Conte of FireCAD to discuss the recent acquisition by Inspect Point and what it means for the future of the industry. Hear directly from August about his incredible 60-year journey in fire alarm and how FireCAD was born out of a need for better, faster design tools. Tony dives into how FireCAD is revolutionizing fire alarm system design, saving companies valuable time and money by eliminating manual errors and inefficiencies. Discover their vision for connecting design and inspection workflows, creating a seamless experience from start to finish. If you're in fire protection, you won't want to miss this conversation about innovation, collaboration, and the future of the industry!

In this engaging podcast episode, host Drew Slocum welcomes fire protection expert Lee Kaiser from ORR Protection for an in-depth conversation covering a wide array of industry topics. From the cultural buzz around the Kentucky Derby to the critical importance of data center fire safety and the evolving challenges of lithium-ion battery protection, Lee shares his expertise and insights. Lee and Drew get into the future of remote inspections, the benefits of data monitoring in fire systems, and the exciting trends in special hazard fire protection, all while highlighting Orr Protection's national reach and commitment to a positive company culture.

Shawn Mahoney from NFPA joins The Fire Protection Podcast in this episode to discuss the challenges and solutions surrounding fire doors and dampers. The episode explores why these critical elements of passive fire protection sometimes get overlooked in favor of active systems like sprinklers and fire alarms. Shawn explains the code requirements (NFPA 80 and 105), the inspection process, and the crucial role of education and enforcement in ensuring these systems function correctly. Drew and Shawn also address the issue of accessibility for dampers and the potential for integrating fire door and damper inspections into existing compliance platforms.

Join host Drew Slocum as he chats with Jeff Pirro, a volunteer firefighter and sales professional at Inspect Point, on this episode of The Fire Protection Podcast! Jeff shares his unique perspective, growing up with a firefighter father and now serving his community as a volunteer. They discuss the critical role of fire safety and prevention, emphasizing the importance of residential fire sprinklers and the dangers of lithium-ion battery fires. Tune in for insights on the latest fire safety technology, the need for ongoing training and collaboration between firefighters and fire protection professionals, and a look at the proposed sprinkler bill in New York State. Don't miss this engaging conversation on The Fire Protection Podcast!

On this episode of The Fire Protection Podcast, host Drew Slocum talks with Jason Webb, a fire protection expert and recovering AHJ, about the intricacies of fire protection codes and standards. Jason discusses his career journey from firefighter paramedic to his role in the National Fire Sprinkler Association (NFSA) and his work with Potter. Tune in to hear a discussion on the differences between the International Code Council (ICC) and National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) standards, the code adoption process across states and jurisdictions, and the challenges of keeping up with the latest codes. Drew and Jason also discuss the NFPA code development process, the role of technical committees, and the impact of specific NFPA codes like 3, 4, and 915 on the industry.

In this episode of the Fire Protection Podcast, host Drew Slocum talks with Ben Pitts and Jamie Knowles of Amerex, the world's leading fire extinguisher manufacturer, about lithium-ion battery fires and the challenges of putting them out. They discuss the importance of using the right fire extinguisher for the job and highlight some of the latest trends in fire protection, including the growing popularity of gas detection systems for electric vehicles.

In this episode of the Fire Protection Podcast, powered by Inspect Point, host Drew Slocum interviews Victor Stagnaro, the CEO of the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation. The episode is being released on Giving Tuesday, and for every demo booked in December, Inspect Point will donate $100 to the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation.   Victor describes the work of the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation, including their efforts to support the families of fallen firefighters. The foundation also works to prevent line-of-duty deaths and injuries through education and training.   Victor and Drew discuss the fire protection industry and some of the challenges that firefighters face, including the increased risk of cancer and mental health issues. They also talk about the importance of fire prevention and the role of sprinkler systems in reducing firefighter fatalities.   To donate to the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation, visit firehero.org.

On this episode of the Fire Protection Podcast, host Drew Slocum welcomes Raj Arora, CEO of Jensen Hughes, a global leader in fire protection engineering and consulting. Raj shares his journey from selling fire alarm systems to leading a global firm, offering insights into the evolving landscape of fire protection. They discuss: - The impact of private equity: How has it shaped the industry, and what does the future hold? - Emerging trends: From wildfires and lithium-ion batteries to the resurgence of nuclear power, how is the industry adapting to new challenges? - The role of technology: How is AI and digitalization transforming fire protection and creating new opportunities?

Happy Veterans’ Day from The Fire Protection Podcast! Today, Drew chats with Raquel Gomez, founder and owner of Mar Vet Fire Protection in California. She shares about her background in the Marines, how she got into fire protection, and how she started her business. Watch or listen to this episode as Drew spotlights a fast-growing, veteran-owned business and get an inside look at how Gomez went from a fire protection novice to a successful owner-operator.