In today's episode, Trevor and Caleb's conversation begins with human speech and language, but soon drifts to the topic of understanding oneself. Both Trevor and Caleb describe how they have gone about learning more about who they are as individuals and what catalysts occurred to start this thought process for them. This then leads the friends to talk about time; how we can relate to it and the role it might play in our self discovery. Recorded on 7.8.2021.