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Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
From Tenacious Change, featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth
54 episodes
2 weeks ago
"Third Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.
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"Third Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.
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S3E18 - A Conversation with Stan "The Man" Martin
Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
1 hour 13 minutes 20 seconds
3 months ago
S3E18 - A Conversation with Stan "The Man" Martin

What is the power in a name? How do you have challenging conversations about difficult to break personal habits, even addiction? These are just a couple of things discussed in today’s Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar & Tom. 

In this conversation, Stan “The Man” Martin discusses his extensive work in community engagement and public health, particularly focusing on the fight against menthol tobacco. Stan is a native son of Buffalo, NY where he continues to live and work today. In this interview he tells Lamar and Tom about the touching origin of his nickname, “Stan the Man.” ThroughHe emphasizes the importance of authentic engagement, listening to community needs, and the impact of marketing on health disparities. Stan shares personal stories and insights on navigating difficult conversations, building collaborative efforts, and the role of kindness in creating positive change within communities.

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Inspired by our recent conversation with Joolz Casey of #behumankind are now inviting listeners/viewers to participate in our ongoing “Acts of Kindness” poll. You can participate by answering two simple questions: 

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

Learn more: 

Stan “The Man” Martin’s website: https://www.stanmartinconsulting.com/

How the tobacco industry targeted Black Americans with menthol smokes: https://www.npr.org/2022/04/29/1095291808/tobacco-industry-targeted-black-americans-with-menthols 

The Master Settlement Agreement (with tobacco companies): https://www.naag.org/our-work/naag-center-for-tobacco-and-public-health/the-master-settlement-agreement/ 

Congress Investigates Tobacco Industry: https://www.c-span.org/program/congress-investigates/tobacco-industry/638858

2022 Buffalo Shooting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Buffalo_shooting 


How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded August 6, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Buffalo, NY; Original Publishing Date, September 15, 2025. 

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
"Third Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.