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Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
From Tenacious Change, featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth
54 episodes
1 week ago
"Third Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.
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"Third Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.
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Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E25 A Holiday Table Talk and Season 3 Wrap Up

About this Episode

In this holiday-themed episode, Tom and Lamar reflect on their experiences and traditions surrounding December holidays. They share personal stories about their favorite holiday memories, gift-giving practices, and the role of pets in their lives. The conversation also highlights memorable moments from the podcast season and their plans for the future. Whatever holidays you celebrate and however you celebrate them, Lamar, Tom, Jake, and Ebie wish you the warmth of food, friends, and family and experience of peace in the new year. 

We are Looking for Acts of Kindness

Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share?

We gather Acts of Kindness for two reasons. First, we believe there is much more kindness in the world than incivility and that it needs to be highlighted. Second, we collect these Acts of Kindness to share and highlight during our annual Thanksgiving podcast. For this reason, it is always open and you can come back as many times as you like. We don’t ask your name and only tell us where you live (without too much detail please).

These are the two questions in our survey:

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/Po83D9TBY2UUAuoZ8

Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others.

Learn more: 

Please visit our Substack -  https://klaushaus.substack.com/ - to see pictures of "Sailing Through the Winter Solstice" at Carroll Creek in Frederick, Maryland; Lamar's Shoo Fly pie and his spouses Homemade Cinnamon Roles they share each year with Tom and his spouse; Tom's Springerle (Anise Cakes) he and his spouse make to share year with Lamar and his spouse; and photos of Jake and Ebie.

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another.

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, December 23, 2025.

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1 day ago
1 hour 1 minute 2 seconds

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E24 - A Conversation with Michael Gaskins

About this Episode

Michael Gaskins is a Philadelphian by birth and heart. In fact, he’ll take a soft, chewy Philly pretzel anytime over cookies. He began his career in television production with CBS, NBC, and CNN affiliates but has found himself drawn to work with incarcerated young men to help them prepare for their re-entry into society as citizens upon their release. For a time he operated a prison ministry to do that work and worked with Prison Fellowship (https://www.prisonfellowship.org/) as an area director. His desire to produce a reality TV show about young men returning to society from a prison sentence led him back to television production. For the past several years he has worked on TV courtroom shows including Relative Justice, Judge Steve Harvey, Tribunal Justice, and Judy Justice. In this conversation we learn more about his journey and the challenges of having open, honest, and civil conversations in the TV and film industry and also with young men in prison. Michael also shares an act of kindness he has received as well as one he has passed on. After leaving Hollywood in 2025, Michael Gaskins became the Director of Media and Communications for a faith community in Virginia and is in the process of starting his own production company. 

We are Looking for Acts of Kindness

Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share?

These are the two questions in our survey:

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/Po83D9TBY2UUAuoZ8

Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others.

Learn more: 

Drexel Alumni Spotlight: Michael Gaskins - https://drexel.edu/westphal/about/alumni-spotlight/Michael-Gaskins/

When US Outlets Cover Black Shooting: An Interview with Michael Gaskins - https://www.media-diversity.org/when-us-outlets-cover-black-shootings-an-interview-with-michael-gaskins/

Michael Gaskins’ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michaelcgaskins

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, December 9, 2025.

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2 weeks ago
1 hour 9 minutes 1 second

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E23 - A Table Talk on Acts of Kindness and Thanksgiving

This week is Thanksgiving in the United States and Lamar & Tom take time to celebrate by sharing acts of kindness submitted by listeners and viewers over the last two months.

Since August 2025, Lamar & Tom have been collecting responses to two questions about acts of kindness. The first is, “What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?” The second is “What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?” In today’s episode they share responses they’ve received from listeners from around half the world (from Hawai`i to the United Kingdom), recent guests, and their own stories. 

Today, settle back, listen, smile, laugh, and be thankful for the many people in our world who, despite the news, are still acting with kindness. Then, consider sharing your responses to those two questions in our ongoing Acts of Kindness survey. We start collecting for next Thanksgiving’s podcast today. 

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share? 

We gather Acts of Kindness for two reasons. First, we believe there is much more kindness in the world than incivility and that it needs to be highlighted. Second, we collect these Acts of Kindness to share and highlight during our annual Thanksgiving podcast. For this reason, it is always open and you can come back as many times as you like. We don't ask your name and only tell us where you live (without too much detail please). 

These are the two questions in our survey: 

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: 

https://forms.gle/Po83D9TBY2UUAuoZ8 

Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. 

Learn more: 

Fresh Step Laundry, https://www.freshsteplaundry.com/

Lasagna Love, https://lasagnalove.org/

Midlife Stockman, https://www.youtube.com/@MidlifeStockman 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded November 18, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, November 25, 2025.

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4 weeks ago
1 hour 12 minutes 6 seconds

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E22 - Part 2 - A Conversation with Christie Vilsack

This episode of Getting to 3rd Space is Part 2 of our conversation with Christie Vilsack, writer, teacher, Former First Lady of Iowa, and sponsor of the Navy’s U.S.S. Iowa, a nuclear submarine. 

Our conversation continues with a focus on literacy, acts of kindness, and the benefits of growing up in rural America. Christie writes the Substack column, “Common Ground,” in which she tells stories of the people she has met and the ties that connect them. A link to her Substack is provided below. This podcast is the second of two and you can listen to or view the first part @klaushausproductions on YouTube. 

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Christie Vilsack is the most recent of our guests to talk with us about acts of kindness they have received and extended. Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share? 

There are two kindness questions we’d like you to consider responding to:

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

Learn more: 

Common Ground, a Substack column by Christie Vilsack - https://christievilsack.substack.com/ 

USS Iowa (nuclear submarine) - https://ssn797.com/about-us 

American is Sliding Toward Illiteracy, by Idrees Kalhoon in The Atlantic - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/10/education-decline-low-expectations/684526/?gift=OkCOMnff83tE105ER-Egr9RBJ6X_L1UNSsOAWWYxod8&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

The Anxious Generation, by Jonathan Haidt - https://a.co/d/8tWME8n

Disagree Better, An Initiative by the National Governor’s Conference - https://www.nga.org/disagree-better/ 

And of course, the Frederick Flying Cows Basketball team - https://goflyingcows.com/ 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded October 16, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Iowa; Original Publishing Date, November 11, 2025.

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1 month ago
54 minutes 46 seconds

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E21 - Part 1 of A Conversation with Christie Vilsack

Today’s guest on Getting to 3rd Space is Christie Vilsack. She describes herself as a "Teacher, writer, wife, mom and gramma. Proud Iowa first lady, congressional candidate, and USAID education advisor. A world traveler but an Iowan by birth and choice. I write about people living close to the land, who believe in community and the public good. I tend to favor underdogs.” She is also the sponsor of the U.S.S. Iowa, a nuclear submarine commissioned earlier this year.

This podcast is Part 1 of 2. In this episode Christie talks about her Substack column “Common Ground,” speaking truth to power and authority, the pride she has in her Iowa roots, and, of course, what it means to sponsor a Navy submarine. Part 2 will air on Tuesday, November 11, 2025.

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Inspired by our recent conversation with Joolz Casey of #behumankind are now inviting listeners/viewers to participate in our ongoing “Acts of Kindness” poll. You can participate by answering two simple questions: 

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

Learn more: 

Common Ground - https://christievilsack.substack.com/USS Iowa (nuclear submarine) - https://ssn797.com/about-us

American is Sliding Toward Illiteracy, by Idrees Kalhoon in The Atlantic - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/10/education-decline-low-expectations/684526/?gift=OkCOMnff83tE105ER-Egr9RBJ6X_L1UNSsOAWWYxod8&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

The Anxious Generation, by Jonathan Haidt - https://a.co/d/8tWME8n

Disagree Better, An Initiative by the National Governor’s Conference - https://www.nga.org/disagree-better/ 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites.

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another.

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Help us grow our audience by sharing this post. It is public and can be shared without obligation or cost. Thanks!Recorded October 16, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland, Kansas, and Iowa, USA; Original Publishing Date, October 28, 2025.

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1 month ago
48 minutes 51 seconds

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E20 Too Much Culture War, Not Enough Kitchen Table

Lamar and Tom talk with Senator Ethan Corson about his decision to run for Governor the State of Kansas. Ethan emphasizes the importance of bipartisan leadership and staying focused on the everyday issues that matter to families. He shares insights on maintaining civility in political campaigns, the significance of community colleges, and his vision for making Kansas an affordable state. Throughout the discussion, Ethan Corson highlights the value of kindness and mentorship in politics as he reflects on his own path into politics. His own experience highlights the importance of fostering positive engagement with the next generation.

Learn more: 

Ethan’s Kitchen Table Campaign Ad: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QBerwoq1ovk⁠ 

To learn more about how Republican colleagues view Ethan Corson, see: ⁠https://pro.stateaffairs.com/ks/elections/ethan-corson-kansas-governor⁠  Or download and read here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AfU1f3Q7IKAttNR-Ua4z_e7MKm7B7hTw/view?usp=sharing 

Meet Ethan Corson (Wikipedia)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Corson 

Ethan Corson Campaign Website https://www.ethanforkansas.com/about

Senator Ethan Corson at the Kansas Statehouse https://www.kslegislature.gov/li/b2025_26/members/sen_corson_ethan_1/ 

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Inspired by our recent conversation with Joolz Casey of #behumankind are now inviting listeners/viewers to participate in our ongoing “Acts of Kindness” poll. You can participate by answering two simple questions: 

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded September 16, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, October 14, 2025.

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2 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 15 seconds

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E19 Live on Tape from Frederick, MD

About this Episode

What happens when two Hawkeyes get together in person? Well, there are some are stupid jokes as well as good conversation. Join Lamar & Tom for a Getting to 3rd Space episode from Tom's home studio. 

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus recorded this episode in person in Tom’s Frederick, Maryland home studio. They talked about Lamar’s experience with a new (and very small) camper he and his spouse used to camp en route from Kansas. Lamar pulls off a golf joke with Tom and Tom flubs a joke with Lamar. They talk about a couple places they visited during Lamar’s stay and challenges with GPS vs. Google Maps. On a more serious note, they discuss the importance of positive dialogue in the face of tragedy and the distinction between debate and dialogue. Before grousing that their day at the Great Frederick Fair is a rain out, Lamar and Tom also explore the role of leadership in decision-making.

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Inspired by Joolz Casey of #behumankind are now inviting listeners/viewers to participate in our ongoing “Acts of Kindness” poll. You can participate by answering two simple questions: 

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

Learn more: 

Shepherdstown, West Virginia: https://shepherdstown.info/ 

Evergreen. Colorado School Shooting: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/colorado-student-shot-2-peers-and-then-himself-at-high-school-authorities-say

Charlie Kirk Assassination: https://www.pbs.org/video/charlie-kirk-murder-backer-1757622641/ 

The Great Frederick Fair: https://thegreatfrederickfair.com/

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded September 17, using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from a home studio location in Maryland, USA; Original Publishing Date, September 29, 2025.

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2 months ago
39 minutes 4 seconds

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E18 - A Conversation with Stan "The Man" Martin

What is the power in a name? How do you have challenging conversations about difficult to break personal habits, even addiction? These are just a couple of things discussed in today’s Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar & Tom. 

In this conversation, Stan “The Man” Martin discusses his extensive work in community engagement and public health, particularly focusing on the fight against menthol tobacco. Stan is a native son of Buffalo, NY where he continues to live and work today. In this interview he tells Lamar and Tom about the touching origin of his nickname, “Stan the Man.” ThroughHe emphasizes the importance of authentic engagement, listening to community needs, and the impact of marketing on health disparities. Stan shares personal stories and insights on navigating difficult conversations, building collaborative efforts, and the role of kindness in creating positive change within communities.

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Inspired by our recent conversation with Joolz Casey of #behumankind are now inviting listeners/viewers to participate in our ongoing “Acts of Kindness” poll. You can participate by answering two simple questions: 

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

Learn more: 

Stan “The Man” Martin’s website: https://www.stanmartinconsulting.com/

How the tobacco industry targeted Black Americans with menthol smokes: https://www.npr.org/2022/04/29/1095291808/tobacco-industry-targeted-black-americans-with-menthols 

The Master Settlement Agreement (with tobacco companies): https://www.naag.org/our-work/naag-center-for-tobacco-and-public-health/the-master-settlement-agreement/ 

Congress Investigates Tobacco Industry: https://www.c-span.org/program/congress-investigates/tobacco-industry/638858

2022 Buffalo Shooting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Buffalo_shooting 


How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded August 6, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Buffalo, NY; Original Publishing Date, September 15, 2025. 

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3 months ago
1 hour 13 minutes 20 seconds

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E17 - A Labor Day Table Talk and Three Things We Think You Should Know

It’s Labor Day! But how much do you really know about it? Take Tom’s Labor Day quiz with Lamar and learn three other things they think you need to know. 

In this engaging Table Talk, Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth explore the significance of Labor Day, the challenges facing the agricultural sector as harvest looms, and the implications of current political trends. They discuss the origins of Labor Day, the serious issues surrounding workers' rights, and the impact of tariffs on grain storage. The conversation takes a lighter turn as they talk about the “wurst” accidents of the past couple years. This Table Talk balances humor and serious topics, encouraging listeners to reflect on the state of society and the importance of activism.

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

Inspired by our recent conversation with Joolz Casey of #behumankind are now inviting listeners/viewers to participate in our ongoing “Acts of Kindness” poll. You can participate by answering two simple questions: 

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? 

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

Learn more: 

When Granaries are Full Before the Harvest https://youtu.be/Mg7Xin34prE?si=Fa4sFlf5cl96JAWN 

The Handmaid’s Tale: Fact or Fiction in the U.S. today? https://www.perplexity.ai/search/is-than-handmaid-s-tale-becomi-mAsuiHO9QUSKB_ZxxmmtBQ

Christian Nationalist pastor on women’s role today in American society https://youtube.com/shorts/JGoymv33ZWc?si=bDhciSensQpldAJV 

Hot Dog Spill Shuts Down Pennsylvania Highway https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-hot-dogs-crash-96a3994dc8d5c5ce8835ddf3928b35b6 

The Oscar Meyer Wiernermobile crashes and flips https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/oscar-meyer-wienermobile-crashes-flips-on-its-side-on-busy-chicago-area-highway/3497299/ 



How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded August 28, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, September 1, 2025. 

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3 months ago
53 minutes

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E16 - A Conversation with Joolz Casey

What if…the world were a kinder place? What would it look like? What would it feel like? How would a kinder world begin? Lamar and Tom talk with Joolz Casey, the founder of #behumankind about these and other questions. 

In this episode Joolz Casey introduces the #behumankind movement, which promotes kindness and empathy as essential components of living a fulfilling life. The discussion also touches on the significance of community care, the impact of language on perceptions of kindness, and the challenges of burnout in caregiving roles. Joolz describes the #behumankind model, its application for individuals, teams, and organizations, and the importance of kindness in fostering a supportive community. Joolz also shares insights on the international expansion of the movement, personal impacts of the #behumankind philosophy, and the significance of routines and habits in spreading kindness.

A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness

This week we introduce a standing poll on kindness, which was inspired by our conversation with Joolz Casey of #behumankind. We’d like to share results from this poll in each episode. You can participate by answering two simple questions: What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can find the poll at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 

Learn more: 

Learn more about #behumankind: www.behuman-kind.com

Have a taste of the #behumankind member experience: 

https://members.behuman-kind.com/spaces/6418576/content

Create a #behumankind account (free): 

https://members.behuman-kind.com/feed?autojoin=1

Schedule a chat with Joolz Casey: 

https://calendly.com/joolz/121-catch-up?month=2025-08

Visit the #behumankind LinkedIn page: 

https://www.linkedin.com/company/72217530/admin/dashboard/


How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another.

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded July 31, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Yorkshire, UK; Original Publishing Date, August 18, 2025.

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4 months ago
1 hour 10 minutes 10 seconds

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E15 - Promises, Promises, and More Promises

In this engaging conversation, Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth share their weekend experiences, discuss the art of civil discourse, and delve into various topics including sports, technology, and political promises. They explore the nuances of disagreement, particularly around golf as a sport, the Apple vs. Microsoft debate, and a review of Trump's campaign promises, especially regarding immigration policies. Throughout the discussion, they emphasize the importance of finding common ground and understanding differing perspectives.A 3rd Space Survey: Promises, Promises, PromisesTake a minute to complete our very brief poll. Thanks! https://forms.gle/s6nxYRjfxzfnQsST8Learn more: President Trump Has Kept His Promises…And Then Some: https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/07/president-trump-has-kept-his-promises-and-then-some/ Here’s what Trump has done on 14 of his major campaign promises:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-14-major-campaign-promises-rcna203436 MAGA-Meter: Trump’s Second Term: https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/maga-meter-tracking-donald-trumps-2024-promises/ President Trump’s Campaign Promises: A 100-day Progress Report: https://nolabels.org/the-latest/trumps-campaign-promises-a-100-day-progress-report/Tracking Trump’s Presidential Promises: https://apnews.com/projects/trump-campaign-promise-tracker/ USA Facts: https://usafacts.org/ How We Check OurselvesFact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-newsAd Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive Meet Lamar and TomLamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.Credits:Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom KlausImages by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AIFinal review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.Recorded July 24, 2025, using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, August 4, 2025.

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4 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes 21 seconds

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E14.5 - It's a Throwback Episode!

This throwback episode takes us back to Episode 7 in Season 3, when, on April Fools’ Day eve, Lamar and Tom had a bit of fun with some of the odd but true stories in the news. Hey, it’s still a heavy world right now and we still need an occasional break. We chose this as a throwback episode because it has been the most widely watched, downloaded, and listened to so far this season. Enjoy again…or for the first time.

Learn more: 

News stories that inspired today’s show: 

The price of eggs is coming down

  • https://www.newsweek.com/price-eggs-rising-falling-cost-2042992 

Royal Shrovetide

  • https://apnews.com/article/royal-shrovetide-ashbourne-ancient-soccer-murder-880658c923b33288df42af109d25e458?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share

Trump administration purges examples of diversity efforts in Defense Department:

  • US military firsts among the 26,000 images flagged for deletion in Trump DEI purge https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/07/military-images-trump-dei?CMP=share_btn_url 
  • Rachel Maddow on, “Clumsy execution turns a bad idea into another humiliation for Trump” https://youtu.be/CQ90aLXmbVY?si=_pYpPc9rmkP1uPDm 

Deaths on Airplanes in Mid Flight - How would you like to sit next to a dead person on a flight?

  • Couple Had to Sit Next to Body After Woman Died Mid Flight https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/26/world/europe/dead-body-flight-qatar-airways.html?unlocked_article_code=1.0E4.dUvM.TUuofIh1nyig&smid=url-share 


Emergency Donuts

  • A toddler in Oklahoma, playing with an old cell phone that was still connected to 911, called for “Emergency Donuts.” Listen to the call here: https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2025/03/03/Moore-Police-Department-emergency-doughnuts/3521741028902/ 

Texas Deputy wrangles a kangaroo in a red jacket:

  • In Fayette County Texas deputies were called out to wrangle a kangaroo in a red jacket. https://www.facebook.com/FayetteCountySheriffsOfficeTexas/posts/649651740932201?ref=embed_post 

If you are happy but you can’t show it, you can’t come to this comedy club. 

  • Top UK comedy club bans audience members with botox after “numerous complaints” https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/news/botox-ban-comedy-club-london-b2710893.html

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded March 11, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, March 31, 2025, rerun on July 21, 2025.

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5 months ago
49 minutes 18 seconds

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E14 - Table Talk on What it Means to be Patriotic

If you are a listener from the United States, how patriotic do you feel at this time? Did you celebrate the 4th of July with enthusiasm and gusto or with an eye roll and a mumbled “Meh!”? 

In this conversation, we reflect on the significance of the 4th of July and explore the concept of patriotism. We discuss personal experiences related to Independence Day, the meaning of patriotism in contemporary society, and the importance of acknowledging both the positive and negative aspects of American history. We emphasize the need for critical assessment of national pride and the role of civil discourse in creating a more inclusive understanding of patriotism.

Take Our Patriotic Survey:

We’d like to know how you spent your 4th of July this year and what it means to you to be patriotic, now that you know our answers to these. Please take a minute to visit this Google Form link where you can take our three question survey: https://forms.gle/f1Xsm112E8hVogJV7 

Learn more: 

The 4th of July, a Time to Celebrate…or Not? By Heidi and Guy Burgess - https://open.substack.com/pub/beyondintractability/p/newsletter-365?r=2ztkta&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

We asked the same questions of Perplexity AI that Heidi and Guy asked of Chat GPT 4o. We got similar answers. If you are curious, you can look at what we found on Perplexity using this link: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/can-you-tell-me-what-progressi-2It9P1PLSXWppcK6NPo0sQ 

An excellent podcast that looks at what it means to be patriotic through the evolution of Captain America. Does America Need a Hero? From NPR history podcast Throughline: https://www.npr.org/2025/07/03/1255164467/does-america-need-a-hero

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Video from KCRG-TV and PBS News Hour.

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. 

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded July 3, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, July 7, 2025.

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5 months ago
53 minutes 28 seconds

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E13 A Table Talk on How NOT to Have a Civil Dialogue

In just a few weeks, we’ll celebrate the two year anniversary of the start of this podcast and we’ll be approaching our 50th episode. It seems like a good time for us to take a step back and remember why we are doing this podcast and what we hope to accomplish with it. In this episode, Lamar touchbase with the foundation of Getting to 3rd Space.

Learn more: 

Juneteenth: Sun, Sounds and the Spirit of Freedom (National Museum of African American History & Culture) https://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/moments/juneteenth#:~:text=Juneteenth%20is%20an%20often%20overlooked,Lincoln%20signed%20the%20Emancipation%20Proclamation 

Nathan Sage, Iowa Democrat for Senate - https://www.sageforsenate.com/ 

'Well, we all are going to die” (The Des Moines Register, May 30, 2025) https://www.desmoinesregister.com/videos/news/politics/2025/05/30/senator-joni-ernst-iowa-town-hall-well-we-all-are-going-to-die-butler-county/83945134007/

Iowans' responses to Joni Ernst: 'You just moved well beyond elitist' | Letters (The Des Moines Register, June 3, 2025) https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/readers/2025/06/02/joni-ernst-apology-video-reactions-medicaid/83993313007/

Joni Ernst posts sarcastic apology for Medicaid comments that “we all are going to die” https://youtu.be/gqdwSLKE554?si=jPYEgMlU1IEAle-h 

Is the video featuring Caitlin Clark questioning the gender of Brittney Griner real or a deep fake? https://www.perplexity.ai/search/is-the-video-featuring-caitlin-cNWQhhRuSeGuKjpfFgk.PQ 

11 rumors regarding Caitlin Clark we've addressed (Snopes.com) https://www.snopes.com/collections/caitlin-clark-rumors-collection/ 

Okay, even Getting to 3rd Space has an AI summary on the web that WE didn’t write. https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=getting+to+3rd+space+with+lamar+and+tom&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Video from KCRG-TV and PBS News Hour.

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. 

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded June 19, 2025 using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, June 23, 2025.

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6 months ago
1 hour 55 seconds

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E12 A View from the Farm with Allen Schrag

Lamar and Tom welcome Allen Schrag, an innovative Kansas farmer and business person with a lifetime of experience in farming. In this conversation, they discuss the current state of agriculture, comparing it to the 1980s farm crisis, and explore the risks and challenges faced by farmers today. Allen, and his son Paul, operate Silver Creek Farms where they utilize an array of innovative farming techniques, including the use of biologicals to enhance crop production and to maintain soil health for future generations. To learn more about Allen, Paul, and their approach to farming, visit this website: https://locusag.com/grower-spotlight/allen-schrag-silver-creek-farms/ 

Learn more: 

The Farm Crisis, a 2013 documentary by Iowa Public Television (film, approx. 90 minutes): https://www.pbs.org/video/iptv-specials-farm-crisis/

The Farm Crisis of the 1980’s, a short-course based on the 2013 documentary above: https://www.iowapbs.org/iowapathways/mypath/2422/farm-crisis-1980s 

Country (1984 film starring Jessica Lange and Sam Shepard): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087091/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk 

The River (1984 film starring Cissy Spacek and Mel Gibson): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088007/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk 

The Farmer’s Wife (1998 Frontline Series from PBS):

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/farmerswife/

Also, check out these concepts described by Allen:

Biologicals in agriculture: https://locusag.com/blog/agricultural-biologicals/

Carbon offsets: https://www.climatefarmers.org/blog/carbon-credits-for-farmers-what-are-they-and-what-benefits-do-they-bring/ 

Chapter 12 bankruptcy: https://www.vermontlaw.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Chapter-12-Bankruptcy-Brief.pdf 

Sustainable Airline Fuel (SAF): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_biofuel 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

For permissions or additional Information contact hello@klaushausllc.com.

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded May 15, 2025, using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland, Kansas, and Arkansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, June 9, 2025.

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S3E11 - Navigating Politics When in a Significant Minority Position with Senator Ethan Corson

In this conversation, District 7 Kansas State Senator Ethan Corson discusses his background, career, and the importance of civil dialogue in politics. He shares insights on navigating a Republican supermajority in the Senate, the differences between federal and state politics, and the significance of communication and listening skills in legislative processes. Ethan Corson emphasizes the need for respectful conversations and the role of civil dialogue in preserving democracy, while also reflecting on his personal motivations for entering politics and the challenges faced in today's political climate.

Learn more: 

Meet Ethan Corson (Wikipedia)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Corson 

Ethan Corson Campaign Website https://www.ethanforkansas.com/about

Senator Ethan Corson at the Kansas Statehouse https://www.kslegislature.gov/li/b2025_26/members/sen_corson_ethan_1/ 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

For permissions or additional Information contact hello@klaushausllc.com.

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded May 7, 2025, using Riverside.fm from Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, May 26, 2025.

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S3E10 States Rights vs Federal Rights

The Constitution has been the guiding document for the United State of America for nearly 250 years. The documents cover a wide range of issues which make it possible for people in a large, diverse country to live peacefully and harmoniously, most of the time. One of the important topics it addresses is the issue of which powers are “reserved” for States and which powers are “enumerated” for Federal government. Of course, it is not always so clear. In this episode, Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus discuss the concept of states' rights, exploring its historical context, evolution, and current implications, particularly in relation to education. They examine the tension between federal and state powers, the role of the 10th Amendment, and the influence of federal policies on local education systems. The discussion highlights concerns over public funding and the quality of education, emphasizing the need for a balanced approach to governance. 

Learn more: 

The Constitution: From the National Constitution Center ⁠https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution⁠ 

What are States Rights and What is Federalism? (From PBS WHYY “Your Democracy”) https://youtu.be/4xKPhMesFPo?si=K9DXvbsHiYp7oo2m

Federalism: Balancing State vs. Federal Powers https://pluralpolicy.com/blog/state-vs-federal-powers/ 

In what ways are States Rights coming into conflict with Federal Rights today in the Trump Administration? https://www.perplexity.ai/search/in-what-ways-are-states-rights-iMg.uze2Sv6dmfLDJ6Dq0w 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

For permissions or additional Information contact hello@klaushausllc.com.

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded May 1, 2025, using Riverside.fm from Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, May 12, 2025.

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Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E9 - What Does it Mean to "Buy American"?

Do you “buy American?” If so, what does that mean?

Does it mean you “buy American” all of the time? Does it mean you purchase only those items that are both sourced and manufactured in the United States? Or, does it mean you purchase items that are “made in the USA” but with materials that come from outside the country? What about services?

To “buy American” may not be as easy as it once was, with or without tariffs. In today’s podcast Lamar and Tom talk about their experiences of buying American, how it has changed over time, and explore what it might mean today. 

Learn more: 

2024 Cars.com American-Made Index: Which Cars Are the Most American? https://www.cars.com/articles/2024-cars-com-american-made-index-which-cars-are-the-most-american-484903/ 

Silicon, USA: Technology That's Actually Made in America https://www.pcmag.com/news/silicon-usa-technology-made-in-america 

What Farm Tractors are Made in the USA? https://www.hometownstation.com/news-articles/what-farm-tractors-are-made-in-the-us-365943 

It’s Your Turn: We suggest you Google this question: What percentage of food consumed in the USA is actually produced in the USA? 

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

For permissions or additional Information contact hello@klaushausllc.com.

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded April 16, 2025; Original Publishing Date April 28, 2025

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S2E8 - Truth, Truthiness, and Not So Truthy Conversations

Civil conversations and dialogue are made more difficult when participants are not speaking honestly, are simply parroting the ideas of others, or are unwilling to consider being changed through dialogue. In this episode, Lamar and Tom talk about conversations in which truth is illusive, and truthiness is not valued.

Learn more: 

The work of Alan Yarborough and his organization, Habits of Discourse, was part of the inspiration of this episode:

https://www.habitsofdiscourse.com/

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Meet Lamar and Tom

Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

For permissions or additional Information contact hello@klaushausllc.com.

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded April 3, 2025; Original Publishing Date April 14, 2025

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Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
S3E7 - Oddly True for April Fools' Day

On this April Fools’ Day eve Lamar and Tom have a bit of fun with some of the odd but true stories in the news. Hey, we all need a break when things have been pretty heavy in the world, right? Thankfully we have April Fools’ Day to help us out. 

Learn more: 

News stories that inspired today’s show: 

The price of eggs is coming down

https://www.newsweek.com/price-eggs-rising-falling-cost-2042992 

Royal Shrovetide

  • https://apnews.com/article/royal-shrovetide-ashbourne-ancient-soccer-murder-880658c923b33288df42af109d25e458?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share

    Trump administration purges examples of diversity efforts in Defense Department:

  • US military firsts among the 26,000 images flagged for deletion in Trump DEI purge https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/07/military-images-trump-dei?CMP=share_btn_url 
  • Rachel Maddow on, “Clumsy execution turns a bad idea into another humiliation for Trump” https://youtu.be/CQ90aLXmbVY?si=_pYpPc9rmkP1uPDm 

Deaths on Airplanes in Mid Flight - How would you like to sit next to a dead person on a flight?

  • Couple Had to Sit Next to Body After Woman Died Mid Flight https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/26/world/europe/dead-body-flight-qatar-airways.html?unlocked_article_code=1.0E4.dUvM.TUuofIh1nyig&smid=url-share 
  • Mid flight deaths are precipitated by in-flight medical emergencies (IMEs). The data on IMEs is not very complete for three reasons: https://emottawablog.com/2022/05/is-there-a-doctor-on-board-in-flight-emergencies/: 

  • One study claimed there were 24 mid flight deaths in the United States in 2024 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11671026/ 

Emergency Donuts

  • A toddler in Oklahoma, playing with an old cell phone that was still connected to 911, called for “Emergency Donuts.” Listen to the call here: https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2025/03/03/Moore-Police-Department-emergency-doughnuts/3521741028902/ 

Texas Deputy wrangles a kangaroo in a red jacket:

  • https://www.facebook.com/FayetteCountySheriffsOfficeTexas/posts/649651740932201?ref=embed_post 

If you are happy but you can’t show it, you can’t come to this comedy club. 

  • Top UK comedy club bans audience members with botox after “numerous complaints” https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/news/botox-ban-comedy-club-london-b2710893.html

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

  • Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ 

  • FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ 

  • Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/

  • RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ 

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

  • Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

  • All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news

  • Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive 

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. 

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? 

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI

Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, all rights reserved. For more information, visit https://www.rothimages.com/. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

For permissions or additional Information contact hello@klaushausllc.com.

Recorded March 11, 2025; Original Publishing Date: March 31, 2025

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Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom
"Third Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.