S3E24 - A Conversation with Michael Gaskins

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Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

From Tenacious Change, featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth

54 episodes

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"Third Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.

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S3E24 - A Conversation with Michael Gaskins

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

1 hour 9 minutes 1 second

4 weeks ago

S3E24 - A Conversation with Michael Gaskins

About this Episode

Michael Gaskins is a Philadelphian by birth and heart. In fact, he’ll take a soft, chewy Philly pretzel anytime over cookies. He began his career in television production with CBS, NBC, and CNN affiliates but has found himself drawn to work with incarcerated young men to help them prepare for their re-entry into society as citizens upon their release. For a time he operated a prison ministry to do that work and worked with Prison Fellowship (https://www.prisonfellowship.org/) as an area director. His desire to produce a reality TV show about young men returning to society from a prison sentence led him back to television production. For the past several years he has worked on TV courtroom shows including Relative Justice, Judge Steve Harvey, Tribunal Justice, and Judy Justice. In this conversation we learn more about his journey and the challenges of having open, honest, and civil conversations in the TV and film industry and also with young men in prison. Michael also shares an act of kindness he has received as well as one he has passed on. After leaving Hollywood in 2025, Michael Gaskins became the Director of Media and Communications for a faith community in Virginia and is in the process of starting his own production company.

We are Looking for Acts of Kindness

Do you have an act of kindness that you’d like to share?

These are the two questions in our survey:

What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?

What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?

You can participate through a Google Forms poll at this link: https://forms.gle/Po83D9TBY2UUAuoZ8

Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others.

Learn more:

Drexel Alumni Spotlight: Michael Gaskins - https://drexel.edu/westphal/about/alumni-spotlight/Michael-Gaskins/

When US Outlets Cover Black Shooting: An Interview with Michael Gaskins - https://www.media-diversity.org/when-us-outlets-cover-black-shootings-an-interview-with-michael-gaskins/

Michael Gaskins’ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michaelcgaskins

How We Check Ourselves

Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:

Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/
FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/
Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/
RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:

Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/
All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news
Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive

Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.

Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?

Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.

Credits:

Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus

Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink

Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.

No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.

Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, December 9, 2025.