On a warm California evening at a church social, a young Muslim Hafsa Lodi’s best friend, a Mormon, ran up to her and handed her a t-shirt. She unfurled it and in big, bold letters, it read: “Modest is Hottest”. Beaming, Hafsa proudly donned the t-shirt for many of her preteen years. It was not only a treasured token of girlhood friendship, but in her own words, a powerful symbol of interfaith support. Nearly 20 years later, Hafsa is the esteemed author of Modesty: A Fashion Paradox, a short but densely packed book that expertly explores the history and culture of the modest fashion industry and its major players, as well as the political and religious dimensions of this controversial corner of contemporary fashion. It was a dream of mine to speak with Hafsa when I first read her book only a couple months after I got the idea for this podcast, and I was so honored when she accepted my invitation to share her personal experiences with modesty beyond what she's written about publicly. I hope that her perspectives inspire you to reflect on your own relationship to your body and this funny thing called modesty.