Aloha! Welcome to the Grief and Happiness podcast. My name is Emily Thiroux Threatt, and I am your host. I am the author of Loving and Living Your Way Through Grief, The Grief and Happiness Handbook, and creator of Grief and Happiness Cards: Gentle Support for Dealing with Grief and Finding Happiness
My purpose with the Grief and Happiness Podcast is to demonstrate to people who are dealing with grief and loss that they can grieve and be happy at the same time. The wide variety of guests address the myriad of issues that arise with loss and the spectrum of how grief and happiness relate. After a loved one dies, often people say they will never be happy again. By covering thought-provoking topics like creativity, compassion, community, purpose, inner peace, strength, coping, surrendering, and resilience with authors, speakers, coaches, and friends, listeners find inspiration and confidence guiding them on their grief journey. Each week the podcast showcases an interview with an inspiring guest and an additional brief podcast with a message of support and comfort.
Anyone dealing with grief or loss can come to the Grief and Happiness podcast to find comfort, support, love, and happiness. You are welcome here to learn ways to live your best life.
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Aloha! Welcome to the Grief and Happiness podcast. My name is Emily Thiroux Threatt, and I am your host. I am the author of Loving and Living Your Way Through Grief, The Grief and Happiness Handbook, and creator of Grief and Happiness Cards: Gentle Support for Dealing with Grief and Finding Happiness
My purpose with the Grief and Happiness Podcast is to demonstrate to people who are dealing with grief and loss that they can grieve and be happy at the same time. The wide variety of guests address the myriad of issues that arise with loss and the spectrum of how grief and happiness relate. After a loved one dies, often people say they will never be happy again. By covering thought-provoking topics like creativity, compassion, community, purpose, inner peace, strength, coping, surrendering, and resilience with authors, speakers, coaches, and friends, listeners find inspiration and confidence guiding them on their grief journey. Each week the podcast showcases an interview with an inspiring guest and an additional brief podcast with a message of support and comfort.
Anyone dealing with grief or loss can come to the Grief and Happiness podcast to find comfort, support, love, and happiness. You are welcome here to learn ways to live your best life.
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If you’ve ever wondered what truly helps someone in grief, episode 402 of Grief and Happiness is for you. Mindset coach and certified grief educator Kathleen Quinn shares how losing her husband during COVID reshaped her view of grief as something we live with, not move past. Through moments like freezing in a grocery store parking lot and the power of saying a loved one’s name, she shows why presence matters more than words.
In This Episode, You Will Learn:
(00:55) How loss led Kathleen Quinn to grief education
(03:46) Why grief doesn’t end—and how we live with it
(04:40) Why saying the person’s name matters
(06:50) Questions that help grievers feel seen
(08:57) Losing a spouse during COVID and anticipatory grief
(12:10) Finding purpose after profound loss
(15:07) Why listening matters more than fixing
(17:50) The arc of grief: anticipatory to mature
(19:30) Why capable people freeze in early grief
(22:16) How journaling supports healing over time
Kathleen Quinn is a mindset coach, grief educator, and speaker based in Madison, Wisconsin. With more than 30 years of experience in university leadership and development, she brings deep listening skills and a grounded, compassionate approach to her work. After losing her husband during the height of the COVID pandemic, Kathleen became a certified grief educator through training with renowned grief expert David Kessler, integrating grief literacy into her coaching practice. Today, she helps individuals navigate loss, life transitions, boundaries, and self-worth with clarity, presence, and humanity.
In Episode 402, Kathleen offers a thoughtful and deeply human perspective on grief, shaped by both personal loss and professional experience. She reframes grief as something we learn to live with rather than “move on” from, emphasizing the importance of presence, listening, and naming those who have died. Kathleen introduces key ideas such as grief literacy, secondary losses, and the natural arc of grief—from anticipatory grief to a stage where love outweighs pain. Through practical examples, she shows how small, intentional acts of listening and asking better questions can help grieving people feel truly seen and supported, reminding listeners that compassion often matters more than words.
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If you’ve ever wondered how loss can open the door to unexpected purpose, episode 400 of the Grief and Happiness podcast is for you. Artist and author Marcie Shrewsbury Lopez shares how caring for her husband through his final days—and facing the grief that followed—sparked a powerful new creative chapter. From unexpected signs on the beach to the healing pull of art and animals, Marcie shows how even deep sorrow can guide you toward meaning and renewal.
In This Episode, You Will Learn:
(01:07) Rebuilding life through art, friends, and horses
(01:57) How horses create emotional breakthroughs in grief
(03:45) The equine-therapy moment that unlocked years of tears
(06:13) Why art helps access and heal deeper emotions
(07:41) The dream, the meeting, and the love story that changed everything
(16:06) How a 46-year age difference led to a joyful, adventurous marriage
(23:00) The sacred lessons she learned while caregiving
(26:06) The beach signs that continue to comfort her
(27:10) How grief opened the door to her strongest creative work yet
Marcie Shrewsbury Lopez is an artist, author, and storyteller whose work explores love, loss, and transformation. After the passing of her husband Adrian, she stepped more fully into her creative path, developing a body of artwork that reflects deep emotional truth. Her paintings have been featured in exhibitions across New Jersey, and her memoir shares the remarkable love story and spiritual journey that shaped her life. Marcie continues to inspire others through her art, writing, and the meaningful connections she builds around grief and healing.
In this episode, Marcie reflects on the profound impact of her 20–year marriage and the ways grief opened new doors to healing. She shares how reconnecting with horses offered unexpected comfort, emotional release, and a grounding presence during mourning, and how her art became a powerful way to access and process her feelings. Marcie also recounts the extraordinary way she met and married Adrian, their life of adventure and unconditional love, and the sacred experience of caregiving at the end of his life. Her insights highlight how creativity, animals, spiritual signs, and continued bonds can gently guide us forward after loss.
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What one intention are you making for this year? Start it with the words: “I am.”
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If you’ve ever felt caught off guard by aging or unsure how to rebuild after loss, episode 398 of the Grief and Happiness podcast is for you. Author and artist J.J. Hubal shares the moment she “woke up old” and how that shock—combined with deep grief—pushed her to rethink her life. Through candid stories and her signature humor, she reveals how small, brave steps and saying “yes” can spark unexpected renewal. Her journey shows that your next chapter can begin at any age.
In This Episode, You Will Learn:
(01:22) J.J.’s journey as a writer, artist, and teacher
(05:23) How deep loss in her 60s sparked Goodbye Old, Hello Bold
(08:51) Why aging can feel sudden—and why honesty helps
(11:32) The turning point that made her ask, “Now what?”
(14:10) How saying “yes” creates new possibilities at any age
(17:27) Why tiny steps matter more than big dramatic changes
(21:41) How creativity and community rebuilt her confidence
(24:52) The power of stepping outside your comfort zone
(29:41) How keeping your “pilot light” lit fuels renewal
(33:54) What happens when you keep showing up anyway
(36:27) Why embracing aging unlocks untapped potential
J.J. Hubal is a lifelong writer, artist, and former special education teacher whose work combines gentle humor, honesty, and simple, expressive illustrations. Her book Goodbye Old, Hello Bold grew from her own journey through aging and reinvention, capturing her philosophy of “I write and draw what I live.” Now retired from teaching, she devotes her time to writing and cartooning, offering relatable, uplifting guidance to anyone navigating change or seeking renewed purpose later in life.
In this episode, J.J. shares candid insights on aging, grief, and rebuilding a life when everything familiar seems to fall away. She describes how accumulated loss in her 60s left her feeling directionless, and how writing and drawing became the tools that helped her move forward, one small step at a time. Her reflections highlight the power of saying yes, embracing tiny acts of courage, and recognizing new possibilities even when motivation is low. J.J.’s stories offer listeners a hopeful reminder that meaning, creativity, and connection can flourish at any age when we choose to stay open to what’s next.
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If you’ve ever wondered how aware our loved ones truly are in their final moments, episode 396 of the Grief and Happiness Podcast is one you shouldn’t miss. Deborah Weed shares stunning, intimate moments from her husband’s last days—unexpected reactions, powerful signs, and the impact of playing the music he loved. Her story reveals why keeping your voice and trusting your instincts during grief matters more than you think. This episode invites you to stay open, stay present, and recognize the quiet miracles that can appear even in the hardest moments.
In This Episode, You Will Learn:
(00:55) Why true self-worth matters more than self-esteem
(03:36) How reclaiming her voice changed Deborah’s healing
(05:35) The moment her husband responded in hospice
(08:10) How music and intuition guided his final hours
(12:19) Why treating loved ones as aware makes a difference
(16:31) The unexpected miracles she witnessed in grief
(20:45) How forgiveness cleared long-held pain
(25:02) Why fully grieving can lead to unexpected peace
Deborah Weed is the founder of the Self-Worth Initiative, a lifelong creator, and a powerful advocate for helping people understand their inherent value. With a background that spans major creative and corporate roles—including development work for Citibank and a $26 million attraction project for Disney and Universal—she blends experience with heart-centered purpose. After a serious health crisis transformed her understanding of confidence and resilience, she committed herself to teaching true self-worth through storytelling, family-focused productions, and her current project, the Quills Up movement and musical.
In this episode, Deborah shares deeply personal insights on the difference between self-esteem and self-worth, how illness reshaped her identity, and how grief awakened her voice and inner strength. She recounts the extraordinary experiences surrounding her husband’s final days—moments of awareness, music, connection, and forgiveness that revealed how present our loved ones remain, even at the end of life. Her stories encourage listeners to trust their instincts, keep their voice during grief, and remain open to the miracles, healing, and clarity that can appear when we allow ourselves to feel fully and love deeply.
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If you’ve ever questioned why your grief feels different, episode 394 of the Grief and Happiness podcast is for you. Award-winning author and grief educator Theo Boyd shares the life-shifting losses that shaped her work and the signs that helped her forward. She explains why comparing grief adds to the pain and why sadness is not a disorder. Her story offers a clear, hopeful reminder that healing begins when you honor your own way through loss.
In This Episode, You Will Learn:
(01:02) How a tragic farm accident changed Theo’s life overnight
(02:40) Why journaling became her first lifeline through overwhelming grief
(03:55) The moment she realized her notes needed to become a grief book
(04:50) How compounded loss shaped My Grief Is Not Like Yours
(06:10) The story behind her second book Hope All the Way and the signs that inspired it
(09:03) What her national grief study reveals about America’s hidden grief crisis
(11:37) Why society’s discomfort with sadness harms grievers
(12:47) The real meaning of “complicated grief” and why labels can be damaging
(14:22) How early counseling support helped her survive the darkest period
(17:22) How signs and moments of meaning helped her rediscover purpose
Thelizabeth “Theo” Boyd is an award-winning author, speaker, podcast host, and certified grief educator whose work centers on validating the many forms of loss. A former high-school English and creative writing teacher, she turned to journaling after a series of life-altering events, including the accidental death of her mother, the sudden loss of her longtime counselor, the end of her marriage, and later her father’s suicide. These experiences shaped her first book, My Grief Is Not Like Yours, and her upcoming release Hope All the Way, which also incorporates findings from her national study on the state of grief in America.
In her conversation with Emily, Theo reflects on how writing became both an anchor and a purpose after her world collapsed. She explains why grief must be witnessed, why comparisons rarely comfort, and how meaning deepens into purpose only when it serves others. Theo also shares the powerful signs she’s received from her parents, the importance of normalizing sadness instead of pathologizing it, and the urgent need to address the country’s grief crisis. Her perspective offers listeners a grounded, hope-filled reminder that healing grows from honesty, connection, and staying open to moments of grace along the way.
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If you’ve ever felt pressured to “push through” grief alone, episode 392 of the Grief and Happiness Podcast is a must-listen. Evermore founder Joyal Mulheron shares what she learned after losing her daughter—how bereavement can quietly damage a person’s health, stability, and future, and how our systems often worsen the pain. Drawing on years of policy work and real stories from grieving families, she reveals what truly helps people begin to recover. Her insights will change how you understand loss and how you support others through it.
In This Episode, You Will Learn:
(01:03) Joyal’s story and the loss that changed her mission
(02:10) Leaving policy work to build Evermore
(04:19) What national tragedies revealed about America’s grief gap
(06:02) What six years of listening taught her about bereavement
(07:45) The real health and economic costs of grief
(09:57) Why people pull away—and how to truly support a griever
(11:54) Emily’s turning point: the power of saying yes
(17:30) Why community witnessing matters
(18:47) The harm of common grief clichés
(21:37) How workplaces often get grief wrong
(23:12) How loss reshapes relationships
(29:31) Reconnecting with long-lost friends during grief
(33:14) Finding meaning—and why systemic change is urgent
Joyal Mulheron is the founder and executive director of Evermore, a national nonprofit working to improve how society supports bereaved people. After a policy career advising governors, federal agencies, and the White House on science-based public health strategy, the death of her daughter redirected her work toward understanding the real impact of loss. Since then, she has become a leading advocate for reform, helping secure paid bereavement leave for U.S. Armed Forces and creating the country’s first community bereavement response guide. Her mission bridges science, policy, and community action to build more compassionate and effective systems for those experiencing grief.
In the episode, Joyal explains how personal tragedy revealed the deep health, social, and economic effects of bereavement—and how current systems consistently fall short. Drawing on years of research and conversations with families nationwide, she emphasizes that bereavement is a life-altering event that requires more than emotional support. She shares how Evermore pushes for stronger national policies, better community responses, and evidence-based tools that help people “weather” loss rather than face it alone. Her insights highlight the urgent need for more humane, prepared, and responsive structures for grieving individuals.
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If you’ve ever wondered whether loved ones stay close after they pass, episode 390 of the Grief and Happiness podcast offers a striking perspective. Quantum healer Jeremy E. McDonald, M.Ed. shares the powerful shared-death experience he had with his mother and the clear signs he received afterward. These moments reshaped his grief and guided his 13-year healing journey, encouraging listeners to stay open and find comfort in the connections that remain.
In This Episode, You Will Learn:
00:55) Jeremy’s background and the roots of The Sovereign Mindset
(01:31) How his mother’s passing began a long healing journey
(02:20) The shared-death experience that changed everything
(04:45) The signs and messages that continued after her death
(07:03) A new way to understand “transitioning” and loss
(10:29) Lessons on letting go and honoring a soul’s path
(13:40) How compassion and vulnerability reshape grief
(15:23) Why fear blocks connection with loved ones in spirit
(17:09) Mediumship moments that confirmed his experiences
(19:39) How to recognize signs from loved ones
(22:08) The importance of dignity and presence at end-of-life
(23:11) Why love and presence matter in final moments
(25:55) Using emotions to move from pain toward peace
(28:53) How to move forward with small, meaningful steps
(29:58) Rebuilding momentum through simple actions
(32:27) Creating an authentic, purposeful life after loss
Jeremy E. McDonald, M.Ed., is a quantum healer, public speaker, and author dedicated to helping people awaken their inner wisdom and spiritual resilience. With over two decades of experience in energy healing and personal development, he blends grounded teaching with intuitive insight to guide others through transformation. His book The Sovereign Mindset empowers readers to reclaim their inner authority, live with clarity, and recognize their inherent worth. Jeremy’s work reflects both professional expertise and the profound spiritual experiences that shaped his own healing journey.
In this episode, Jeremy shares how the loss of his mother and a powerful shared-death experience changed his understanding of life, death, and the continuing bond between loved ones. He describes how this moment sparked a 13-year path of deep healing, reflection, and spiritual growth that ultimately led to his new book. Jeremy explains why staying open, paying attention to signs, and allowing vulnerability help us move through grief with greater compassion for ourselves. His message encourages listeners to honor their emotions, take small steps toward healing, and trust that their loved ones remain close, offering guidance and support.
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If you’ve ever felt trapped by stress or grief, episode 388 of Grief and Happiness offers a science-backed way out. Stanford physician Dr. Greg Hammer shares the four-step practice that helped him find peace after losing his son—and that can rewire your brain for calm and gratitude. Blending neuroscience, mindfulness, and lived experience, he proves that happiness isn’t luck—it’s something you can train.
In This Episode, You Will Learn:
(01:01) Dr. Greg Hammer’s path from ICU medicine to mindfulness and wellness
(03:37) Why A Mindful Teen was written for parents, not teens
(04:32) The modern pressures today’s teens face—and how to help
(07:21) The GAIN method: Gratitude, Acceptance, Intention, Non-Judgment
(10:40) How acceptance helped Dr. Hammer heal after losing his son
(15:51) The science behind mindful breathing and calm
(19:47) How listing “three good things” boosts happiness and sleep
(22:50) Facing grief vs. suppressing it—how to tell the difference
(27:40) Healing through writing letters to lost loved ones
(29:44) Why parents must model gratitude and openness
(37:51) Forgiving yourself and letting go of judgment
(43:20) Why most of what we stress about doesn’t matter
Dr. Greg Hammer is a Stanford physician, wellness expert, and bestselling author devoted to helping people build happiness and resilience through mindfulness and science. After 35 years as a professor and pediatric intensive-care specialist at Stanford, he shifted his focus to stress reduction and well-being. His book Gain Without Pain introduced the GAIN method—Gratitude, Acceptance, Intention, and Non-Judgment—as a practical path to balance and fulfillment, followed by A Mindful Teen, guiding parents and educators to better support today’s youth.
In this episode, Dr. Hammer shares how his GAIN practice turns grief, stress, and self-criticism into calm and connection. Drawing on personal loss and decades of experience, he shows how gratitude and acceptance can rewire the brain toward positivity, and how mindful breathing resets the body by activating the vagus nerve. Addressing modern teen pressures—from social media to anxiety about the future—he urges adults to lead by example through compassion, presence, and forgiveness.
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If you’ve ever been told to “stay strong” after loss, episode 386 will change how you see strength. Life coach Shruti Trivedi shares her journey through the loss of three babies and the 11 years she spent suppressing her pain. Through therapy and her “three A’s”—acknowledge, accept, and address—she discovered that true healing begins when you stop hiding your grief. Her story is a raw reminder that facing pain is often the first step toward peace.
In This Episode, You Will Learn:
(00:53) Shruti’s introduction and the losses that changed her life
(02:04) The 11-year silence before seeking therapy—and how it transformed her healing
(05:01) Why pregnancy loss is so misunderstood and often dismissed
(08:35) Teaching children emotional honesty through shared grief
(10:37) How Shruti helped her daughters honor their twin brothers each year
(14:43) What to say—and what not to say—to someone grieving a loss
(18:41) How fathers grieve differently and why their pain is often invisible
(21:05) The danger of masking pain and the stigma around showing emotion
(25:47) The “mental tumor” effect of unspoken grief and how to cleanse it
(30:00) Finding peace through naming, remembering, and continuing bonds with lost babies
Shruti Trivedi is a Certified Life Coach, PMP®, and founder of Tulsi Heals Life Coaching, where she helps women and parents navigate grief and emotional healing with empathy and structure. After spending over 13 years in IT consulting and leadership, her own experience of losing three babies—one early miscarriage and identical twin boys at 23 weeks—transformed her life’s direction. That profound loss inspired her to become an advocate for mental health awareness, emotional resilience, and self-compassion, using both her professional background and personal story to guide others through recovery.
In this conversation, Shruti shares how she spent 11 years suppressing her grief before finally seeking therapy, a decision that became the foundation of her healing. She introduces her “three A’s” approach—acknowledge, accept, and address—as a framework for moving through pain rather than escaping it. With honesty and warmth, she discusses letting go of guilt, showing vulnerability to her children, and redefining strength as the ability to feel deeply. Her story reminds listeners that healing begins with allowing space for emotion—and that offering presence and compassion often means more than finding the perfect words.
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If you’ve ever felt trapped in grief and longed for a way to truly move forward, episode 384 is for you. Grief guide and author Marie Crews shares how losing her 22-year-old son to suicide inspired The Nautilus Way—a four-step journaling process that transforms pain into empowerment. With raw honesty and compassion, she reveals how writing can quiet guilt, rewire your thoughts, and reconnect you to life. Her story proves that healing begins the moment you meet yourself on the page.
In This Episode, You Will Learn:
(01:01) Marie’s path from mindset coach to grief and empowerment guide
(02:40) Losing her 22-year-old son and transforming unimaginable pain into purpose
(04:15) Why choosing how to live with loss is an act of radical self-responsibility
(06:27) The power of journaling—and how it became her lifeline through grief
(07:45) The creation of The Nautilus Way: Reveal, Review, Rewrite, and Rewire
(10:59) How journaling opens communication with lost loved ones
(11:54) Turning journaling into meditation and “whispering yourself home”
(14:20) Breaking perfectionism and resistance in writing for healing
(16:18) Gratitude, self-love, and the small daily practices that rewire the mind
(20:00) How journaling becomes a love letter to yourself—and a path to peace
(23:55) Why the answers aren’t “out there,” but waiting inside you all along
(24:45) How to access The Nautilus Way and begin your own healing journey
Marie Crews is an empowerment and grief guide, author, and creator of The Nautilus Way, a four-step journaling process that helps women heal by reconnecting with themselves and rewriting limiting beliefs. After losing her 22-year-old son to suicide in 2017, she transformed her grief into purpose, developing a compassionate method to help others move through loss, anxiety, and self-judgment. Through her retreats in Navarre, Florida, and online workshops, she guides women toward self-compassion, empowerment, and emotional freedom using journaling as a tool for deep healing.
In this episode, Marie shares how journaling became her lifeline after her son’s death and how it evolved into The Nautilus Way—a process of “Reveal, Review, Rewrite, and Rewire.” She explains how meeting yourself on the page can quiet the inner critic, bring clarity, and reframe grief into growth. Marie and Emily discuss how consistent, conscious journaling can transform suffering into self-acceptance and joy, empowering women to take radical responsibility for their thoughts and emotions while finding peace within their ongoing grief.
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