0:38 – Meet Koan of Penelope Road
2:44 – Why Penelope Road Can’t Be Boxed Into One Genre
3:56 – The Album That Changed Everything: The Beatles’ Revolver
6:20 – Tomorrow Never Knows and the Power of Experimentation
10:55 – Indian Classical Music and the Roots of Psychedelic Rock
14:55 – Philosophy, Creativity, and Writing Honest Songs
19:08 – Koan’s Guitar Pedalboard and Vintage Tone Hunt
24:55 – Other Albums That Shaped Koan (Radiohead, Bowie, Arcade Fire)
29:12 – The Balance Between Experimentation and Listenability
Koan of Penelope Road joins us on the Grooves of Influence music podcast to reflect on Revolver by The Beatles and the search for creative freedom in songwriting. We talk about developing a signature sound as an indie band, using experimental guitar tones, and writing with intention across genres like alternative rock, shoegaze, and film scores. Koan shares stories about growing up in a musical family, building pedalboards, and composing for theater and screen. A thoughtful artist interview exploring sound design, emotion in music, and how bands evolve their identity.
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peneloperoad
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2BxNY82SWxJkGveOWm2oxH?si=JUH-BFDMQLG6CIib5erNZw
00:00 Introduction to Wide Orbit and Influences
02:56 The Impact of The Beatles' Revolver
05:49 Musical Journey and Early Experiences
08:50 The Mixing Process and Production Techniques
11:58 Balancing Influences and Originality
14:46 Exploring Genres and Songwriting Process
17:39 The Evolution of Musical Identity
20:39 Production Inspirations and Techniques
23:45 The Future of Wide Orbit and Upcoming Projects
Ryan Tuohy of Wide Orbit joins us to talk about Revolver by The Beatles, the record that shaped the sonic vision behind Wide Orbit’s debut album. We explore Ryan’s journey from cello to guitar, his production philosophy rooted in warmth and saturation, and how analog-inspired techniques brought modern songs to life. He shares stories of learning to let go, trusting the process, and embracing both influence and experimentation with honesty. A deep dive into DIY recording, playful grooves, and the beauty of making music that feels free.
Wide Orbit's Music:
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@UCaV7p5qECQ6bMCVJ_gS38SA
YouTube Music - https://music.youtube.com/channel/UC708c4Zoom4FGQSnBRJ-RyQ
Apple Music - https://music.apple.com/us/artist/wide-orbit/1790129450
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/artist/76wnntKKXAHupWwI7tD94X?si=BV-p4V2gTKSOZrF0XpuHfQ
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wide.orbit
TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@wideorbit
William Garrett joins us to reflect on Zapped, a strange and genre-bending sampler curated by Frank Zappa that opened his ears to the wildest corners of music. We talk about discovering Captain Beefheart, Willie the Pimp, and why this record became a turning point in his curiosity as both a listener and producer. William shares stories from decades behind the board — from cleaning studios and watching Aerosmith record, to running Spotify’s flagship recording program and working with artists like John Legend, Ed Sheeran, and Brandi Carlile. A deep conversation about creative instinct, experimentation, and staying open to sound in all its forms.
Album of Influence: Zapped by Various Artists
Songs Produced/Recorded/Mixed by William Garrett
Anthony Yeh joins us to talk about five seconds flat by Lizzy McAlpine, the album that helped him fall in love with songwriting and understand how to tell a story across a full project. We talk about acapella, vocal layering, and how Lizzy’s use of doubling and space shaped the way Anthony produces his own music. He shares the story behind his debut album Late Night Thoughts, his love for bossa nova and jazz textures, and what it means to “show, not tell” through lyrics. A thoughtful conversation about emotional detail, self-expression, and building something real from a blank page.Album of Influence: five seconds flat by Lizzy McAlpine
Anthony Yeh's Music:
Alvin Cobb Jr. shares how Stretch Music by Chief Adjuah (formerly Christian Scott) shaped his artistic vision, blending southern hip hop, jazz, and experimental rhythm into something entirely his own. We talk about Alvin’s move from gigging drummer to intentional bandleader, and how writing music for his trio became a personal form of reflection and healing. He opens up about building community through livestreams, developing a sound during a year-long residency, and the stories behind his debut album You’ll Need This Later. A conversation about vulnerability, groove, and letting the drums speak.
Album of Influence: Stretch Music by Chief AdjuahWant to explore Alvin Cobb Jr.'s music? Check it out here!
Jacob on the Moon joins us to talk about Tranquility Base Hotel and Casino by Arctic Monkeys, a cinematic concept album that shaped the ideas behind his latest EP The Gemini Club. We explore Alex Turner’s dense lyricism, visual world-building, and the creative risks that inspired Jacob’s own moonlit funk grooves. He shares how his seven-piece band evolved, why he loves auxiliary percussion, and how scoring films influenced his approach to songwriting and sound. A conversation about cohesion, concept, and finding the surreal in the groove.
Album of Influence: Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino by Arctic Moneys
Want to explore Jacob on the Moon's music? Check it out here!
ROSiE CQ joins us to talk about the album that made music feel real and reachable for her, The Story by Brandi Carlile. We talk about growing up in a children’s choir in Montana, sharing a track with Brandi herself, and how that early experience shaped Rosie’s path as a performer and songwriter. She shares insights on learning to balance emotion and technique, writing for vibraphone and voice, and embracing contrast in both art and identity. A thoughtful and personal conversation about authenticity, sound, and giving yourself permission to evolve.
Album of Influence: The Story by Brandi Carlile
Want to explore ROSiE CQ's music? Check it out here: ROSiE CQ
ANDIE (ANDIE and the Bandits) joins us to talk about the record that first made her believe she could be a songwriter, Corinne Bailey Rae’s 2006 self-titled album. We talk about growing up with the CD on a pink Walkman, the impact of vocal harmonies, and how songs like “Till It Happens to You” still hit just as hard today. ANDIE reflects on her journey as a queer and polyamorous artist navigating heartbreak, live performance, and the reality of recording with a DIY team. A nostalgic and honest conversation about influence, emotion, and turning personal stories into something beautiful.
Album of Influence: Corinne Bailey Rae by Corinne Bailey Rae
Want to explore ANDIE's music? Check it out here.
Photo Credit: David Miller @madlabphoto
Jimmy James (The True Loves, The Parlor Greens) joins us to reflect on a lifetime shaped by family, feeling, and sound. We talk about hearing Smash Hits for the first time, how it scared him a bit, and how he later came to see Jimi Hendrix as a symbol of freedom. Jimmy shares stories of growing up in a house filled with records, learning guitar by ear, and watching his mom reunite with her old singing group. A soulful and sincere conversation about legacy, instinct, and playing what you feel.
Album of Influence: Smash Hits by Jimi Hendrix
Want to explore James' music? Check it out here: True Loves and Parlor Greens
*Photo courtesy of Chris Bowden
Steve Borth II (Link 80, RX Bandits, Satori) joins us to reflect on a lifetime in music — from ska-punk roots to dub-infused, improvisational jazz in Copenhagen. We talk about Talking Book by Stevie Wonder, the role of instinct in the creative process, and how trust in the studio leads to timeless recordings. Steve shares stories from Guiding Star Orchestra, I Am An Instrument, and his newest project, The Mighty Tiny & The Many Few. A global, grounded conversation on collaboration, creativity, and the evolution of sound.
Album of Influence: Talking Book by Stevie Wonder
Want to explore Steve's music? Find it here: I Am An Instrument, Guiding Star Orchestra, The Mighty Tiny & The Many Few, and CHLLNGR.
J.I. Gassen of Time Worm joins to break down Revolver by The Beatles — the album that flipped the switch for his love of experimentation, groove, and sonic weirdness. We talk about using the studio as an instrument, playing drums and singing live, and how Time Worm’s upcoming debut album is embracing risk, vibe, and raw energy. If you love genre-bending music and fearless artistry, this one’s for you.
Album of Influence: "Revolver" by The Beatles
Want to explore J.I. Gassen's (Timeworm) music? Find it here!
Producer and artist William Wild (Garrett Sale) joins us to dive deep into Neil Young’s After the Gold Rush — a record that taught him the beauty of imperfection and raw emotion. We talk about capturing feeling over perfection, the evolution of Garrett’s own sound, and the hidden magic of lo-fi moments. From first picking up a guitar to crafting his upcoming album Touchy, Garrett shares the realness behind his artistry. It’s a conversation about capturing real moments, not chasing perfection, and staying true to the feeling behind the sound.
Want to explore William Wild’s music? Check it out here!
Chicago-based musician Zac, also known as Smooth Rogers, explores the influence of Broadcast’s Haha Sound and how its experimental yet nostalgic sound shaped his artistic journey. He reflects on how the album’s unique textures and boundary-pushing production opened the door for him to explore new creative avenues, from electronic music to live instrumentation. Along the way, he discusses the impact of skateboarding culture, collaboration, and his evolving approach to making music.
Album of Influence: Haha Sound by Broadcast
Musician Jason Perry joins Grooves of Influence to discuss The Doors’ debut album and its lasting impact on his musical journey. From the album’s blues and jazz influences to its raw, live energy, Jason breaks down what makes it a masterpiece. He shares insights on Light My Fire, Jim Morrison’s poetic vision, and how the album’s unique composition has influenced his own approach to songwriting and performance.
Album of Influence:The Doors by The Doors (1967)
Album of Influence:"Born to Die" by Lana Del Rey
Summary: In this episode of Grooves of Influence, host Xavier speaks with independent artist Nev, who shares her musical journey and the profound impact of Lana Del Rey's album 'Born to Die' on her artistry. They discuss themes of emotional vulnerability, the evolution of music production, and the challenges faced by independent artists. Nev reflects on her songwriting process, the influence of her musical education, and her excitement for upcoming projects.
Nev's Music: "Hurt You" by Nev
Album of Influence:
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In this episode of 'Grooves of Influence', host Xavier speaks with musician Nico Ducarme about his journey in music, the profound impact of D'Angelo's album 'Voodoo', and the vibrant soul music scene in Brussels. Nico shares insights into his songwriting process, the importance of groove in music, and the lyrical depth found in D'Angelo's work. The conversation also touches on Nico's personal influences, his approach to creating music, and his upcoming projects.
Nico's Music:
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Album of Influence: "Rage!" by Lettuce
Summary: In this episode of Grooves of Influence, host Xavier interviews multi-instrumentalist Austin Long, who shares his musical journey and the profound impact of the funk band Lettuce on his career. They discuss the album 'Rage' by Lettuce, exploring its standout tracks, the essence of live performances, and the transition from jazz to funk. Austin also delves into his songwriting process and upcoming projects, highlighting the importance of feel and groove in music.
Austin's Music: Funky Unkle
Album of Influence:"Love? Songs" by Jordy Searcy
Summary: In this episode of Grooves of Influence, host Xavier interviews Eli Winde, a Nashville-based singer, songwriter, and producer. They discuss Eli's journey in the music industry, the influence of specific albums on his life, and the themes of jealousy and competition in music. Eli shares insights into his production techniques, the importance of storytelling in music, and his current projects. The conversation highlights the challenges and rewards of pursuing a career in music, as well as the significance of personal connections to the art.
Eli's Music:
Get Used to Music by In Paradise
Can She Have This Dance by Drew Baldridge
Eli's Website:
Album of Influence: "The Real Thing" by Faith No More
Summary: In this episode of Grooves of Influence, host Xavier interviews Bryan Dilling, the lead singer of the metal band Five Foot Thick. They discuss Bryan's musical journey, the influence of Faith No More's album 'The Real Thing', and the importance of creativity in music. Bryan shares insights into his songwriting process, vocal influences, and the evolution of his musical tastes. The conversation also touches on the risks of covering classic songs and the significance of finding one's unique voice in music. Bryan highlights the excitement of new projects and the joy of making music for the sake of creativity.
Bryan's Music:
Album of Influence: "A Night in San Francisco" by Van Morrison
Summary: In this episode of Grooves of Influence, host Xavier interviews guitarist and educator Mellad Abeid about the influence of Van Morrison's live album 'A Night in San Francisco' on his musical journey. They discuss the power of live music, the role of AI in music production, the intricacies of improvisation, and the art of arranging music across various genres. Mellad shares insights on balancing authenticity with production quality and highlights his upcoming projects, including a flamenco show.
Music Recommendations Featuring Mellad: