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Health:Further
Marcus Whitney & Vic Gatto
171 episodes
2 weeks ago

Every week, healthcare VCs and Jumpstart Health Investors co-founders Vic Gatto and Marcus Whitney review and unpack the happenings in US Healthcare, finance, technology and policy. With a firm belief that our healthcare system is doomed without entrepreneurship, they work through the mud to find the jewels, highlight headwinds and tailwinds, and bring on the smartest guests to fill in the gaps.

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Every week, healthcare VCs and Jumpstart Health Investors co-founders Vic Gatto and Marcus Whitney review and unpack the happenings in US Healthcare, finance, technology and policy. With a firm belief that our healthcare system is doomed without entrepreneurship, they work through the mud to find the jewels, highlight headwinds and tailwinds, and bring on the smartest guests to fill in the gaps.

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Health:Further
171 - Is AI Actually a Bubble or the Most Misunderstood Technology of Our Time?

Vic and Marcus break down rising unemployment and cooling inflation, debate whether the Fed is behind the curve, and unpack what those signals mean for markets heading into next year. They cover major healthcare funding rounds across pediatrics, cardiology, and AI-enabled front offices, examine payer losses and policy shifts impacting subsidies and gender-affirming care, and analyze FDA clearances pointing to renewed medical innovation. The conversation expands into crypto and AI, including JPMorgan’s tokenized money fund, prediction markets, OpenAI’s government partnerships, and mounting concerns over an AI bubble, enterprise adoption, and the future of energy, jobs, and economic power.

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00:00 - Intro

2:04 - U.S. Unemployment Rose in November ​Despite Job Gains WSJ

3:44 - Inflation Eased to 2.7% in Report Distorted by Government Shutdown WSJ

4:41 - Clarity Pediatrics lands $14.5M to treat childhood obesity Modern Healthcare

6:15 - Leona Health: $14 Million Seed Funding Raised And WhatsApp AI Copilot For Doctors Launched Pulse 2.0

7:46 - Wearlinq secures $14M to scale wireless heart monitor MobiHealth

9:52 - Auxira Health Secures $7.8M for Virtual Cardiology Platform MedCity

10:41 - Valerie Health Raises $30M Series A to Bring AI Front Office to Independent Provider Groups Fox40

11:44 - Wall Street Gets a Taste of Blockbuster Stock-Market Debuts Ahead WSJ

13:09 - House passes healthcare affordability bill without subsidy extension Fierce Healthcare

14:53 - HHS moves to cut federal funding from hospitals that provide gender-affirming care to minors Fierce Healthcare

16:43 - FDA clearances: BlueWind Medical, Bendit Technologies Modern Healthcare

18:41 - Highmark posts $24.6B in revenue through Q3 as utilization pressures persist Fierce Healthcare

19:25 - UnitedHealthcare to hold off on remote patient monitoring policy Modern Healthcare

20:13 - Kaiser pulls plans from Georgia insurance exchange Modern Healthcare

21:44 - New York doles out $300M to fund health IT, hospital cybersecurity projects Fierce Healthcare

23:24 - GSK Gets FDA Approval for New Severe Asthma Drug With a Dosing Advantage MedCity

24:00 - Cencora to acquire majority stake in OneOncology for $5B Fierce Healthcare

25:35 - JPMorgan Steps Further Into Crypto With Tokenized Money Fund WSJ

26:43  - Coinbase Joins With Kalshi to Enter the Surging Prediction-Markets Business WSJ

31:37 - The Political Skirmish Over Trump’s AI Order Is Just the Beginning WSJ

34:06AI-Themed Stocks Take More Hits, Sending Nasdaq Lower WSJ

45:49 - CoreWeave’s Staggering Fall From Market Grace Highlights AI Bubble Fears WSJ

48:09 - OpenAI in Talks to Raise $10 Billion From Amazon, Use Its Chips Bloomberg

50:02 - Google Says Its New Gemini 3 Flash AI Model Is Better and Faster Than 2.5 Pro CNET

51:30 - Deepening our collaboration with the U.S. Department of Energy OpenAI

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2 weeks ago
59 minutes

Health:Further
170 - The Fed’s Quiet U-Turn: Repo Stress, Surprise QE, and What It Means Next

Vic and Marcus cover the Fed’s 25 bps rate cut, dissenting votes, questions around jobs data, and renewed balance-sheet expansion tied to repo stress. They break down key healthcare and VC moves including AI-driven patient communications, mental health platform expansion, pediatric and NICU innovation, obesity-drug updates, and major payer and policy developments, plus notable market shifts spanning CVS, CMS, FDA actions, and accelerating AI adoption across healthcare and finance.

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00:42 - Fed Cuts Rates Again, Signals It May Be Done for Now WSJ

1:47 - Fed Chair Jerome Powell Says U.S. May Be Drastically Overstating Jobs Numbers WSJ

3:42 - Fed to Resume Net Asset Purchases With $40 Billion in Securities This Month WSJ

8:58 - Aradigm launches out of stealth with platform for cell, gene therapy benefits  Fierce Healthcare

9:26 - General Catalyst Leads $50M Round to Expand Radial’s Interventional Psychiatry Network BH Business

N/A - Subsense raises $10M for neurotech Axios

10:09 - AngelEye Health Raises $9M Series C to Bring AI-Driven Insights to the NICU HIT

11:47 - Origin Therapy, a Fairfax, Va.-based enabler of private practice pediatric speech LinkedIn

12:46 - Parallel: $20 Million Series B Raised After Students Achieve 98% IEP Goal Success Pulse 2.0

14:01 - Artera clinches $65M in funding to build out AI agents for patient communication  Fierce Healthcare

18:43 - Senate health bills fail as exchange subsidy expiration nears Modern Healthcare

19:32 - HCA, Tenet, UHS receive FTC letter over noncompete agreements Modern Healthcare

20:53 - Texas files antitrust suit against Epic over health data Modern Healthcare

21:42 - What medtech firms can learn from Whoop’s warning letter Healthcare Dive

24:41 - CMS targets chronic care, nutrition in ‘MAHA’ Medicare payment model Modern Healthcare

26:10 - CVS Health Boosts Guidance, Expects Momentum to Continue WSJ

N/A - CVS to launch ‘engagement’ platform in gamble on consumer, industry interest Healthcare Dive

26:55 - Minnesota petitions to seize control of troubled UCare Modern Healthcare 

28:11 - Major Weight Loss and Knee-Pain Relief Seen With New Eli Lilly Drug NYT

28:59 - Pfizer’s Appetite for More Obesity Meds Leads to $150M Deal for Oral GLP-1 Drug From China MedCity

29:18 - J.P. Morgan taps Solana for Galaxy’s tokenized corporate bond issuance Cointelegraph

31:27 - Coinbase Expands Reach of Stablecoin-Based AI Agent Payments Tool Coindesk

32:17 - Gemini wins CFTC approval for prediction market, may expand into crypto futures, options and perps The Block

33:57 - Athenahealth integrates Dragon Copilot AI assistant as Microsoft moves deeper into ambulatory care Fierce Healthcare

34:40 - Healthcare in the biggest AI vertical mkt today by a lot X

36:10 - OpenAI updates ChatGPT after "Code Red" scramble Axios

40:05 - Anthropic and Accenture Strike AI Deal Targeting Business Clients WSJ

42:24 - Disney Agrees to Bring Its Characters to OpenAI’s Sora Videos NYT

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3 weeks ago
49 minutes

Health:Further
169 - The AI Breakpoint | Why Healthcare Leaders Must Leave the “Cage” Now

Vic and Marcus cover Marcus’s recent keynote to community health centers, the industry’s struggle to break out of legacy regulatory thinking, and why AI is becoming essential as labor and funding decline. They analyze unreliable jobless-claim data, Powell’s rate-cut outlook, and how AI is reshaping the relationship between labor, productivity, and corporate earnings. They discuss CMS rolling back staffing mandates, vaccine-policy debates, the extension of hospital-at-home, and Humana’s move into employer drug-cost management. The episode highlights HIMSS & Hers expanding into diagnostics, the rising burden of caring for aging parents, Texas buying Bitcoin, Google challenging OpenAI, Anthropic’s Opus 4.5, and character.ai restricting teen companion bots.

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7:20 - Jobless Claims Fell to New Recent Low Per Labor Department WSJ

11:31 - Fed Chair Powell’s Allies Provide Opening for December Rate Cut WSJ

26:13 - HHS repeals staffing mandate for long-term care Healthcare Finance

31:18 - FDA adopts agentic artificial intelligence in latest push to infuse AI into agency Fierce Healthcare

ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE (AI) STRATEGY HHS

FDA Official Pledges New Vaccine Standards WSJ

33:05 - House votes to extend acute hospital care at home Healthcare Finance

35:39 - Mark Cuban's Cost Plus Drugs, Humana exploring partnership to tackle employer drug costs Fierce Healthcare

38:38 - Hims & Hers expands into diagnostics, moves into Canada as it evolves DTC telehealth platform Fierce Healthcare

39:48 - ‘We Had No Idea What Was Coming’: Caring for My Aging Father NYT-op

46:19 - Texas Puts $10M Into Bitcoin as BTC Fights to Hold $78K Support Coin Paper

47:19 - OpenAI Declares ‘Code Red’ as Google Threatens AI Lead WSJ

50:35 - Anthropic introduces cheaper, more powerful, more efficient Opus 4.5 model ArsTechnica

53:35 - Teens Are Saying Tearful Goodbyes to Their AI Companions WSJ

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1 month ago
57 minutes

Health:Further
168 - The Hidden Medicaid Crisis No One Is Ready For
Vic and guest host Dr. Kam Matthews cover the week’s major healthcare, policy, and AI stories, including Medicaid funding threats, provider-network gaps, economic updates, new VC raises, and major clinical and pharma developments. They discuss wealth-tax proposals, insurer policy changes, hospital system financials, new maternal and SDOH AI tools, obesity-drug price cuts, and breakthroughs in cancer and antiviral treatments, closing with updates on AI market shifts, Nvidia’s earnings, and Goo...
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1 month ago
1 hour 10 minutes

Health:Further
167 - How Eli Lilly Quietly Became the Most Important Company in Healthcare
In this episode, Vic and Marcus break down the government’s temporary reopening, SNAP funding, and upcoming appropriations battles, then cover Fed uncertainty around rate cuts and a market selloff driven by shifting AI sentiment. They discuss massive layoffs at Verizon, medical-AI funding rounds, mental-health care innovation, and specialty-pharmacy expansion. The hosts analyze the FDA’s rollback of HRT warnings, UnitedHealth’s decision to stop covering most remote patient monitoring, and Cig...
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1 month ago
1 hour 12 minutes

Health:Further
166 - How AI and Politics Are Quietly Reshaping the Future of Healthcare
In this episode, hosts Marcus and Vic break down a packed week of headlines, starting with political shifts following recent elections and how emerging Democratic leaders could reshape the party. They discuss the economy’s resilience despite tariffs, inflated stock valuations, and rising layoffs attributed to AI. The conversation covers major venture capital moves in health tech, policy updates from Trump’s negotiations on weight-loss drugs to FDA scandals, and the ongoing battle between paye...
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1 month ago
1 hour 15 minutes

Health:Further
165 - SNAP Benefits in Jeopardy | What a K-Shaped Economy Means for Everyone
Hosts Vic and Marcus unpack the looming SNAP cuts, the Fed’s rate drop and end of QT, rising AI-driven layoffs, and inflation’s ongoing hit to households. They contrast Wall Street highs with real-world strain, cover major moves in health tech, VC, and pharma, and analyze payer and provider earnings from CVS, Cigna, Centene, HCA, and others. The episode also hits policy shifts, U.S.–China relations, new biosimilar rules, and crypto’s mainstream rise through JPMorgan, Western Union, and Master...
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2 months ago
1 hour 18 minutes

Health:Further
164 - How Trump Rx, Amazon’s Crash, and AI Are Reshaping Healthcare
In this episode, Marcus and Vic discuss the nationwide Amazon cloud outage and its impact on tech infrastructure, the Trump administration’s decision to release aid to struggling U.S. farmers, and the latest U.S.–China trade tensions. They cover new sanctions on Russia, global energy shifts, and rising healthcare costs for employers. The hosts also break down major healthcare investments and acquisitions, including AI startups, GLP-1 innovations, and hospital mergers. They explore Mark Cuban’...
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2 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes

Health:Further
The AI Takeover No One Can Stop & What It Means for Your Job
Marcus and Vic unpack a turbulent week of global and economic shifts — from the Israel-Palestine ceasefire and U.S. government shutdown to rising layoffs, job stagnation, and Wall Street’s growing fixation on AI. They dive into China’s rare earth dominance, Trump’s trade maneuvers, and the growing tension between free markets and government control. In healthcare, they cover California’s crackdown on PBMs and private equity, telehealth funding freezes, labor strikes, and AI-driven innovations...
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2 months ago
1 hour 25 minutes

Health:Further
162 - Compute Is the New Oil | Inside AI’s Power and Chip Arms Race
Vic and Marcus break down the latest in AI and markets—from agentic tools reshaping work and Nvidia’s data-center dominance to the real threat of job loss across creative industries. They hit gold’s surge past $4,000, global market shifts, and China’s trade pivots, then move into healthcare: UnitedHealthcare vs. Johns Hopkins, new startup funding, Trump-era policy moves, and the rising wave of home diagnostics. The episode closes with the AI arms race, Microsoft, OpenAI, AMD, and Elon’s data-...
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2 months ago
1 hour 52 minutes

Health:Further
161 - Government Shutdown & AI Chaos | What’s Coming for Healthcare and the Economy
Marcus and Vic break down the U.S. government shutdown, its political fallout, and how shifting power in Washington could reshape healthcare and the economy. They celebrate Nashville SC’s first major championship, examine the credit market’s warning signs, and analyze the growing divide between workforce readiness and AI acceleration. The hosts also discuss major healthcare investments, policy moves like “Trump RX,” and the record-breaking valuation of OpenAI amid rising ethical concerns abou...
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3 months ago
1 hour 42 minutes

Health:Further
160 - The $100K H1B Shock That Could Rewrite America’s Workforce
In this episode, Marcus and Vic discuss Trump’s rejection of a meeting with Democrats as a government shutdown looms, small business optimism data, Fed comments on rates, a series of major venture capital deals in virtual care, neurology, oncology, PBMs, maternal health, and organ preservation, policy shifts around Tylenol and autism claims, the $100,000 H1B visa fee, the creation of an independent vaccine advisory agency, challenges for regional nonprofit insurers, Humana’s Medicare Advantag...
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3 months ago
1 hour 10 minutes

Health:Further
159 - The First Fed Cut | What It Really Means for Hospitals, Jobs, and Your Wallet
Vic and Marcus cover the Fed’s first rate cut, stagflation risks, and fiscal dominance; Oracle’s surprise wins with TikTok, Paramount, and OpenAI; robo-taxis arriving in Nashville; venture deals in pediatrics, maternal health, AI doctors, and genomics; policy turmoil at the CDC, telehealth’s temporary extensions, and a $50B rural health fund; scrutiny of nonprofit hospitals; Apple Watch’s hypertension approval; Amazon boosting worker benefits; Hopkins vs UnitedHealthcare; Lilly’s GLP-1 lead a...
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3 months ago
1 hour 12 minutes

Health:Further
158 - Healthcare Jobs Are Propping Up the Economy | Here’s Why That’s Dangerous
Vic and Marcus mark 9/11, condemn political violence after the Charlie Kirk assassination, and review economic shifts including inflation at 2.9%, job revisions, rising unemployment, record markets, and healthcare’s outsized role in job growth. They cover major healthcare and policy moves (Strive’s $550M raise, AI voice agents, Epic antitrust case, drug ad limits, California PE scrutiny, CMS pressure on Medicaid payments), rising employer costs and PBM battles, payvider and consumer health up...
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3 months ago
1 hour 4 minutes

Health:Further
157 - Medicaid Cuts and Hospital Survival | Fitch’s Kevin Holloran on What’s Coming
Marcus and Vic welcome Kevin Holloran, Senior Director and head of the US Public Finance Healthcare Team at Fitch Ratings, to break down how credit ratings work in healthcare, why balance sheet strength outweighs short-term operating swings, and how margins shifted from steady pre-COVID levels through pandemic collapse, the 2021 rebound, and the post-2022 labor and inflation crunch. They cover Fitch’s focus on hospitals and life plan communities, the sector’s “trifurcation” between winners, r...
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3 months ago
44 minutes

Health:Further
156 - Epic’s 100B-Event AI | What It Could Change in Patient Care
In this weekly rollup, Vic welcomes guest host Jinesh Patel, CEO of Uptime Health, to unpack a packed week across the health and tech economy: a stronger Q2 GDP print alongside rising jobless claims and pricier equities, the AI-driven efficiency wave and large-company layoffs, venture updates from workflow and dementia-care AI to immigrant-care platforms, policy turmoil around the CDC and HHS budgets, a Google antitrust outcome that stops short of a Chrome spinoff, payer and provider shifts (...
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4 months ago
1 hour 15 minutes

Health:Further
155 - Why 25% of Kids Aren’t Getting the Care They Need w/ Mitch Mudra
Vic is joined by guest host Mitch Mudra, founder of Ladder Health, to discuss the Minneapolis mass shooting, his background at UnitedHealth, and building Ladder to address developmental delays in children. They cover Walmart’s gains during inflation, job market risks, Nashville’s tunnel project, and major healthcare VC deals including LS AI and CAR T therapy. Other topics include AI in back-office operations, sleep and vision tech startups, CMS pre-authorization, CDC leadership turmoil, 340B ...
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4 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes

Health:Further
154 - Deepfakes Are Tricking Companies | Here’s Why Healthcare Should Care
Vic hosts solo as Marcus steps away after losing a pet, then runs a tight roundup: stronger corporate earnings and Fed minutes ahead of Jackson Hole; likely September rate‑cut odds; venture moves including Molecular You’s $5M biomarkers raise, Eight Sleep’s $100M and retail push plus FDA plans; AI in revenue cycle with Develop Health’s $14.3M; Chamath’s new SPAC with tougher sponsor terms; AAP guidance diverging from CDC on pediatric COVID shots; Medicare Advantage star‑ratings loss for a pla...
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4 months ago
28 minutes

Health:Further
153 - Inside “Cassie” The AI Concierge Transforming Clinics w/ Carlos A. Rodriguez
Vic and Marcus talk with Carlos A. Rodriguez, MBA, CEO and Co-Founder of Humanate Inc., about his career from Bain and health system leadership to building a $40M SaaS startup and now launching Humanate, a company focused on agentic AI for healthcare. The discussion covers the origin of “Cassie,” a multilingual AI clinical concierge with ASL support, how staffing shortages and labor inflation shaped the product, case studies reducing record turnaround from 15 days to 48 hours and redeploying ...
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4 months ago
55 minutes

Health:Further
152 - How Nvidia “Bought” Its Way Back Into China & What It Means for U.S. Power
Vic and Marcus recap Marcus’s keynote covering two years of show themes, then dig into Trump’s pace of change, Newsom’s X strategy, July inflation and market reactions, major healthcare deals, Nvidia’s China workaround, U.S. R&D tax incentives, FDA moves, antitrust pushback, and payvider results. They also hit Omada’s growth, Lilly’s weight-loss pill troubles, crypto’s surge, Oracle Health’s EHR push, state AI rules, OpenAI’s rocky rollout, and close with caregiving, healthspan, and their...
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4 months ago
1 hour 19 minutes

Health:Further

Every week, healthcare VCs and Jumpstart Health Investors co-founders Vic Gatto and Marcus Whitney review and unpack the happenings in US Healthcare, finance, technology and policy. With a firm belief that our healthcare system is doomed without entrepreneurship, they work through the mud to find the jewels, highlight headwinds and tailwinds, and bring on the smartest guests to fill in the gaps.