Resilience is not about pushing harder, enduring more, or powering through.It’s about having a plan.
In this episode of the Her Resources Podcast, host Linda Misegadis is joined by Marie-Hélène Pelletier, PhD, MBA, RPsych (she/her) — leadership psychologist, executive coach, TEDx speaker, and award-winning author of The Resilience Plan.
Marie-Hélène challenges the idea that resilience is something you either have or don’t have. Instead, she reframes resilience as a strategic, buildable skill — one that protects mental health, supports performance, and helps leaders thrive in high-demand environments, including the age of AI.
Together, Linda and Marie-Hélène explore why burnout is not a personal failure, how values and energy awareness shape sustainable leadership, and why women often confuse resilience with endurance — at a real cost to their well-being.
This episode is especially relevant for HR professionals, people leaders, and women navigating complex demands at work and at home.
In this episode, we cover:
Why resilience is not a mindset, but a strategy
How to assess your energy supply versus demands (and why burnout is “just math”)
Why guilt drains women’s resilience — and how to choose guilt over burnout
How micro-habits create sustainable change
What resilient leadership looks like at the team and organizational level
How HR professionals can protect themselves while supporting others
Marie-Hélène’s book, The Resilience Plan, is a Gold Winner of the 2025 Axiom & Nautilus Book Awards and has been praised by Dr. Robert Cialdini, Dorie Clark, and Dr. Christine A. Padesky.
Guest Information:Marie-Hélène Pelletier, PhD, MBA, RPsych (she/her)Keynote Speaker on Strategic Resilience & Leadership in the Age of AILeadership Psychologist & Executive CoachAward-Winning Author of The Resilience Plan
Learn more about Marie-Hélène and her book here:http://drmarie-helene.com/the-resilience-plan/
Her Resources Website:https://herresourcespodcast.com
Episode Timestamps:00:00 – Why resilience is not about powering through02:20 – Reframing resilience as a strategic plan05:08 – What inspired The Resilience Plan06:28 – What resilience really means (and what research shows)09:06 – Why resilience needs a strategy12:05 – Energy supply vs. demands: the burnout equation17:15 – Invisible labor and women’s burnout19:44 – How personal values shape resilience22:38 – Generational differences in resilience and leadership25:08 – Burnout explained: what it is and what it isn’t29:59 – CBT tools to reframe unhelpful thinking36:32 – Micro-habits for real-life resilience40:34 – What resilient leadership looks like in teams46:12 – HR, empathy fatigue, and boundaries50:25 – Guilt vs. burnout53:30 – Resilience vs. endurance56:08 – Three things you can do today to build resilience
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