In this quick-hit conversation, Brandon and Greg sit down with Justin Sandler to talk about the moment every creative hits sooner or later — when you realize the passion is dope, but the money and long-term security matter just as much. Justin breaks down his journey from small gigs to landing major commercial work, and how that shift forced him to rethink finances, stability, and the real value of solid health insurance. It’s a candid look at what it means to grow as an artist and an adult, and why planning your financial future is part of the creative grind.