In this episode of HR Famous, Tim Sackett sits down with Tom McCarty, CEO of OrgChart, to talk about something every HR and talent leader is wrestling with right now: how to design the org of the future in an AI-powered world—without losing your mind in spreadsheets. Tim and Tom kick things off by unpacking what OrgChart really is (spoiler: it’s way more than boxes and lines). Tom explains how modern org charting gives HR three critical advantages: visibility into what your org actually looks like today, insights that layer in performance, skills, pay and potential, and vision to model what your organization should look like in 1–5 years. Whether you’re at 100 employees growing 20% a year or a global enterprise, Tom shares why staying in Excel is quietly killing your workforce planning. They dive into the uncomfortable truth that technology and data remain two of HR’s weakest muscles, and why that’s not entirely HR’s fault. Tom argues that HR tech vendors haven’t always made it easy or intuitive—then walks through what “better” looks like when org design, data and decision-making actually work together. You’ll hear them tackle big questions that every HR leader is feeling in Q4 2025: How will AI agents fit into your org chart and headcount strategy? Why you can’t plan the future state of your organization if you don’t clearly understand the current state. Why CEOs are freaking out about succession and what real org visibility can do about it. How the best leaders in an AI world won’t be the ones with all the answers—but the ones who ask the best questions. Tom also shares a simple, no-software-required starting point: how HR can begin making better org and talent decisions just by aligning on the five or six things that should always be considered in pay planning, growth planning, or restructuring conversations. If you’re an HR leader, TA leader, or C-suite exec planning for 2026 and beyond—and you’re tired of pretending your “org design” is a tab in Excel—this conversation will give you a clearer vision of what’s possible and what to do next.

In this episode of the HR Famous Podcast, Tim Sackett welcomes communications pro Dinah Alobeid for a brutally honest, wildly entertaining conversation about corporate comms, brand moments, and the power of good storytelling in HR tech. Dinah, now Head of Communications at Visier and formerly with Greenhouse, joins Tim for a laugh-filled yet thought-provoking discussion that touches on everything from corporate crisis responses to acoustic wedding songs to how HR leaders get held to a higher standard than CEOs. 🔥 Topics covered in this episode include: What real corporate communications looks like (and why most companies miss the mark) The now-legendary Coldplay/CHRO kiss drama—and the brilliant response from Astronomer (yes, the one with Gwyneth Paltrow) Why the CEO’s wife may have written the best PR letter in recent memory American Eagle’s “great genes” ad featuring Sydney Sweeney and why it caused a social media uproar Why it's nearly impossible for brands to "win" online anymore—and why maybe that's okay The importance of honest, unscripted customer stories in HR tech marketing Dinah also shares her career shift into HR tech and what drew her to Visier, a people analytics company powering smarter decisions with workforce data and AI. Tim pushes her to get real about what Visier actually does and how comms leaders can explain complex HR tech in simple, compelling terms. But this episode isn’t just about work—Tim and Dinah go personal, trading stories about: Wedding songs (Tim forgot his, kind of…) Songs for their kids Dinah’s upcoming podcast, Play This at My Funeral, which dives into grief, existentialism, and the music that defines us Why Gen Z and future HR leaders crave unscripted, real content over overproduced messaging If you’ve ever worked in HR, comms, or brand marketing—or just love when pop culture crashes into corporate drama—this episode is for you. 💡 Key Takeaway: Authenticity wins. Whether you're handling a PR crisis, launching an HR tech product, or dancing to Sam Smith at your wedding, what resonates is being real. In an age of backlash and viral moments, the best brands and leaders don’t hide behind polished messaging—they show up human. 🎧 Tune in now to hear Tim and Dinah break it all down with humor, heart, and the kind of insight you won't find in a whitepaper.

In this solo summer edition of the HR Famous Podcast, host Tim Sackett unpacks one of the biggest HR tech acquisitions of the year: SAP SuccessFactors acquiring SmartRecruiters. Tim gives his unfiltered, insider take on why this move matters, how it stacks up against Workday and Oracle, and whether SAP will actually leverage the cutting-edge, AI-driven tech they just bought—or bury it in corporate bureaucracy. You’ll hear Tim’s firsthand reaction to: Why SmartRecruiters was a smart buy (but maybe not the smartest one) The risk of “Big Tech crushing little tech” and what history tells us The future of SAP’s Talent Acquisition stack—will they go all in or keep Frankensteining? Why TA pros should care about this acquisition right now But that’s not all. Tim also dives into the recent Workday legal battle over alleged AI discrimination. He dissects the lawsuit, explains why it’s a misunderstanding of how AI works in TA tech, and makes a compelling argument that AI is more likely to reduce bias—not amplify it. If you're trying to make sense of where AI, algorithms, and HR law are crashing into each other, this segment is a must-listen. Plus, Tim shares real talk about the current state of AI in recruiting: What AI matching actually does (and doesn’t do) Why old-school hiring processes were way more biased than today’s algorithms What leaders need to know before joining the “AI is evil” mob And just for fun, Tim gives a quick update on generative AI image tools—why they’ve gotten better, where they’re still awkward, and how that reflects broader trends in machine learning and bias. This episode is loaded with: Hot takes from a real-world HR tech advisor and investor Cautionary tales from past acquisitions (remember Taleo + Oracle?) Expert analysis on what this means for HR leaders and TA tech buyers No BS commentary on the future of HR, recruiting, and AI in enterprise systems Whether you’re a TA leader looking for insights, an HR tech nerd following every move in the space, or just trying to figure out what the hell SAP is thinking—this episode delivers. 🎧 Subscribe, share, and get ready to question everything you thought you knew about enterprise HR tech.

In this solo summer edition of HR Famous, Tim Sackett flies solo with a hot debrief from the 2025 SHRM Annual Conference in San Diego. From presidential keynotes to AI overload and his signature recruiting tech list, Tim delivers an unfiltered look at what really went down at the world’s largest HR event. Here’s what you’ll get in this jam-packed episode: 🎤 Tim’s SHRM Annual Recap What it’s really like presenting to a packed room of HR pros, why SHRM audiences are better than they get credit for, and how he turns his sessions into connection machines with one killer tip involving LinkedIn QR codes. (Trust us—you’ll steal this idea.) 🧠 AI in HR: Still Mostly Hype? Tim gives a candid take on the AI overload across SHRM sessions. He breaks down why most AI talks aren’t delivering, what’s missing from vendor demos, and why the HR world desperately needs real-world AI success stories—not just “use cases.” 📉 Layoffs, Panic, and Reality Checks Is AI really causing mass layoffs? Tim doesn’t think so—and he’s got the logic to prove it. Hear why the doom-and-gloom headlines don’t reflect what’s actually happening in HR, and why a lot of recent layoffs are just course corrections from years of overhiring. 📊 Behind the Scenes of the Top 100 Recruiting Tech List Tim pulls back the curtain on how he created his Top 100 Recruiting Technologies list, why being #99 isn’t a bad thing, and why big platforms like LinkedIn, Indeed, and Workday still rank near the top (even if people love to hate them). Spoiler alert: There’s no secret algorithm—just market reality and daily usage. 👀 Candidate Fraud Is Coming for You As a teaser for future episodes, Tim touches on the growing wave of candidate fraud in remote hiring, why IT leaders are now poking into the TA process, and what tools like Greenhouse are doing to fight back. Whether you're in TA, HR leadership, or just want the no-BS take on what’s really happening in the industry, this episode is packed with insights, rants, laughs, and practical advice. It's the perfect mid-summer episode to catch up on what matters—and what doesn’t—in the world of work.

In one of the wildest HR pop culture crossovers we’ve ever seen, the internet was set ablaze by a Coldplay concert fan cam that exposed an alleged workplace affair between the CEO and CHRO of Astronomer — and HR Famous is on it. In this must-listen episode, Tim Sackett welcomes back the most requested guest in HR Famous history — his son, Cameron Sackett — to break down the viral moment that brought HR, leadership scandal, and Coldplay together in the most unexpected way. We dig into: Why this moment blew up online and how the couple’s reaction made it unforgettable. The HR chaos of two executives being put on leave — and how legal, optics, and power dynamics play into whether they stay or go. Why this scandal was the first thing to unite the internet across age, political lines, and industries. What companies can (and should) learn about public perception, workplace relationships, and crisis comms from this Coldplay cam crash. Also in this episode: 🎥 Cameron talks about starting his new gig at Uber, adjusting to megacorp life, and what it’s like working 49 floors above Manhattan. 📺 We dish on everything we’re watching — from Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders: Making the Team and We Were Liars to Megan 2 and F1. 💬 And yes, we recap the best memes, the ridiculous reactions, and what this might mean for CHRO Halloween costumes in 2025. Oh, and Tim might have invited the infamous CHRO on the show… Key Takeaway: This moment was more than just workplace drama — it’s a cultural case study in modern leadership, HR ethics, and what happens when your worst professional moment gets broadcast to 50,000 people and TikTok. Whether you're in HR, leadership, or just here for the internet chaos, this is the episode everyone will be talking about. Let me know if you want alternative title options or a shorter teaser for social media!

In this eye-opening episode of HR Famous, host Tim Sackett sits down with Daniel Chait, Co-Founder and CEO of Greenhouse, to dive deep into one of the most pressing — yet under-discussed — challenges facing HR and talent acquisition today: candidate fraud. From fake resumes powered by AI to organized infiltration attempts by foreign actors, the duo explore how fraudulent candidates are shaking up recruiting processes in an era of remote work and advanced technology. Daniel shares real-world data and examples from Greenhouse customers, shedding light on the growing sophistication of fraud tactics and the vulnerabilities organizations face. Together, they dissect the "big F" fraud, like North Korean infiltration efforts, and "little f" fraud, such as candidates outsourcing interviews or using AI-generated answers. The conversation highlights how these issues aren’t just technical problems but touch every layer of hiring — from candidate experience to national security. Listeners will also learn about the crucial role of CISOs (Chief Information Security Officers) in protecting hiring pipelines and why traditional background checks and I-9 verifications are no longer enough. Tim and Daniel discuss innovative ways companies can maintain an open, welcoming hiring funnel while defending against sophisticated threats, including creating better signals for truly interested candidates and leveraging new verification technologies. Packed with practical insights, real anecdotes, and forward-looking strategies, this episode is a must-listen for talent acquisition leaders, HR professionals, and executives worried about the future of hiring integrity. Tune in to discover how you can protect your organization from becoming the next headline — and why this issue might be the biggest HR risk you haven’t prepared for yet.

In this lively episode of the HR Famous podcast, host Tim Sackett welcomes Jonathan Reynolds, CEO and self-described "visionary" of Titus Talent Strategies. The two dive into an authentic, humorous, and deeply insightful conversation about leadership, culture, and what it really takes to build high-performing teams. Jonathan shares how he ended up with the "visionary" title, explaining the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) approach, where someone sets the vision (the "why" and "where") while others execute. He admits to having endless ideas but relies on his team to focus and execute effectively. Their discussion reveals Jonathan’s unique talent for spotting raw potential in people, not just hiring based on skills, but on alignment with core values and the broader vision. They also explore Titus Talent’s approach to talent strategy, going beyond traditional recruiting to focus on character, integrity, and cultural fit. Jonathan illustrates this with stories of team members whose lives he transformed, highlighting his “curator of talent” mindset. The episode explores the significance of work for younger generations, questioning the notion that a job must always feel deeply meaningful. Instead, Jonathan suggests that meaning often comes from the impact a role has on one’s life and community. Titus showcases this by collecting personal stories from candidates 90 days after placement, emphasizing personal transformations over mere job titles or paychecks. Tim and Jonathan also tackle topics like remote work culture, philanthropic initiatives tailored to employees’ passions, and creative interviewing techniques designed to gauge true motivation and cultural fit. The result is an honest, thought-provoking, and funny look at modern leadership and talent strategy — perfect for HR pros and business leaders alike.

Manufacturing jobs are back on American soil. The factories are running. The roles are open. But the workers? They're missing. In this solo episode, Tim Sackett unpacks the growing gap between opportunity and desire in today’s labor market. Why did generations of proud factory families embrace these jobs - and why do today’s young workers turn away? From cultural shifts and education gaps to lifestyle choices and societal stigma, Tim explores the uncomfortable reasons behind this silent rejection. Is it a temporary hesitation... or a permanent shift? And if manufacturing jobs no longer inspire the next workforce, what does that mean for America's future? Connect with Us: Tim Sackett Follow Tim on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timsackett Visit Tim’s Website: hrutech.com Read Tim’s Blog: ⁠⁠https://timsackett.com/

AI agents aren’t coming for recruiting. They’re already here - and they don’t care how many reqs you filled last quarter. In this episode, Tim Sackett sits down with Jason Roberts, SVP of Tech & Analytics at Cielo, to break down what AI is actually doing inside RPOs and staffing firms - and why the old recruiting playbook is about to get torched. From sourcing automation that 5x’s recruiter output to building a fully operational AI agent of yourself, Jason pulls back the curtain on the tools reshaping talent acquisition in real-time. They talk agentic workflows, how execs are chasing 50% AI-driven recruiting models, and why most CRMs still suck. The future of recruiting isn’t theoretical - it’s operational. And if you think your job’s safe because you "build relationships"? Think again. Connect with Us: Jason Roberts Follow Jason on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jasrober Learn more about Cielo: cielotalent.com   Tim Sackett Follow Tim on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timsackett Visit Tim’s website: hrutech.com Read Tim’s Blog: ⁠https://timsackett.com/

The future of recruiting isn’t coming. It’s already here. And if you’re still relying on your legacy tech stack and spreadsheets, you’re already behind. Enter Steven Jiang, CEO and Co-founder of HireEZ, who just dropped one of the most important AI launches in the recruiting space - EZ Agent, their agentic AI companion built to fundamentally reshape the recruiter’s role. Forget everything you know about “copilots” and “gen AI assistants.” EZ Agent is not just another AI tool bolted onto your ATS. It’s a fully-integrated, always-on agent that plans, reasons, executes, and evolves - empowering recruiters to get out of the weeds and back into real talent relationships. Steven joins Tim Sackett to break down: • Why agentic AI isn’t just better - it’s a whole new operating system for recruiting • How recruiters move from task managers to true talent strategists • What it means to create a white-glove candidate experience at scale • And how EZ Agent is solving the “black hole” problem by giving 100% of candidates a shot at the plate Steven’s built more than a product - he’s building a movement to re-humanize recruiting with AI doing the heavy lifting behind the scenes. If you care about talent, inclusion, and the future of work - this is the conversation you need to hear. Connect with Us: Steven Jiang Follow Steven on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenhireez/ Learn more about HireEZ: https://hireez.com/ Book a Demo: https://hireez.com/customer-success/ Tim Sackett Follow Tim on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timsackett Need Help with Technical Recruiting: https://hrutech.com/ Read Tim’s Blog: https://timsackett.com/

AI isn't coming - it's here. And it's changing recruiting faster than most realize. In this crossover episode between RecTech Media and HR Famous, Chris Russell and Tim Sackett dive into the latest from Phenom’s conference in Philadelphia. 2600 attendees. 25+ new AI agents rolled out. And a vision for HR tech that feels more like science fiction than reality. But what happens when AI isn’t just automating tasks - it’s making decisions? And if recruiters aren’t the ones screening candidates, curating talent pools, or delivering feedback, what’s left for them to do? Phenom is betting big on agents that can reason - detecting mistakes, providing real-time feedback, even building personalized hiring experiences. And they’re not alone. Paradox and Eightfold are in the race, each taking different approaches to AI. But is all this innovation really making hiring better? Or just faster? If AI agents are handling the heavy lifting, where does that leave recruiters? And if everyone’s automating, what actually sets your hiring process apart? Phenom claims they’re two years ahead of the industry. But if that’s true, what happens to everyone else still playing catch-up? Listen to find out why this shift in HR tech could leave even the most seasoned recruiters rethinking their entire approach. Connect with Us: Chris Russell Follow Chris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cmrussell/ Check Out the RecTech Podcast: https://www.rectechmedia.com/podcast Tim Sackett Follow Tim on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timsackett Visit Tim’s website: https://www.hrutech.com

AI is showing up in every headline. But in the workplace? Most people still aren’t sure what to do with it. Enter Cam Sackett - a social media manager from Away, and Tim Sackett’s middle son. He joins HR Famous for a candid conversation on how Gen Z views AI at work, why creative teams are skeptical, and what’s missing from most company rollouts. Cam shares how AI tools are marketed with bold promises but little instruction, and why “figure it out” isn’t a strategy. He explains the tension between speed and trust in creative roles - and why, sometimes, knowing how to explain a phone to your grandma might make you the best person to lead AI adoption. The real question? If AI is here to stay, who’s actually responsible for making it usable? One thing’s clear: Gen Z isn’t rejecting AI. They’re just waiting for someone to make it make sense. Connect with Us: Cam Sackett LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cameronsackett/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronsackett/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sackettc Check Out Away: https://www.awaytravel.com/ Tim Sackett LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timsackett/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@timsackett Visit Tim’s Website: hrutech.com

The workforce is shifting. Expectations are changing. And if companies aren’t paying attention, they’re already behind. Enter Danielle Farage, a leading voice bridging the gap between Gen Z and the workplace. She joins Tim Sackett to expose the disconnect - why leadership still doesn’t understand what younger workers want, why traditional career paths are losing their appeal, and what companies need to do before they lose top talent for good. The real question? If Gen Z isn’t playing by the old rules, why are companies still running the same game? Danielle breaks down the biggest shift in work culture we’ve seen in decades - and why most organizations aren’t prepared. The companies that adapt will attract the best talent. The ones that don’t may not have a future. Connect with Us: Danielle Farage Follow Danielle on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danielle-farage Learn More About the Top Future of Work Influencer: daniellefarage.com Tim Sackett Follow Tim on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timsackett Visit Tim’s website: hrutech.com

Hiring is broken - but not for the reasons you think. Recruiters flood hiring managers with candidates, yet decision-makers hesitate to pull the trigger. The process drags, top talent walks, and organizations pay the price. Tim Sackett isn’t here to sugarcoat it. In this unfiltered solo session, he lays out why the hiring machine is failing and what needs to change. From hiring managers’ paradoxical indecision to the myth of "more candidates = better hires," he breaks down how talent acquisition teams have conditioned bad behavior - and why fixing it requires a shift in trust, process, and execution. Then there’s Elon Musk. His blunt demand for accountability in government sent HR circles into a tailspin, but is he wrong? Sackett cuts through the noise to dissect why performance management is broken and why most leaders are afraid to ask their employees the one question that actually matters. The workforce is shifting. The hiring game is changing. If you’re still playing by the old rules, you’re already behind. Connect with Us: Tim Sackett Follow Tim on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timsackett Visit Tim’s website: hrutech.com

AI is infiltrating HR in ways no one’s talking about - yet. The shift isn’t coming. It’s already here. And if you’re not paying attention, you’re already behind. Enter Madeline Laurano, a leading analyst who’s been tracking AI’s silent takeover of HR technology. She joins Tim Sackett to break down what’s really happening beneath the surface - how AI agents are replacing traditional workflows, why the old way of hiring is crumbling, and what the biggest players like Workday and LinkedIn are doing to stay ahead. The real question? If AI is making HR more efficient, what happens to the humans still doing the job? Madeline unpacks the biggest shift in HR technology we’ve seen in decades - and why most organizations aren’t prepared. The companies that adapt will redefine work. The ones that don’t may not have a future. Connect with Us: Madeline Laurano Follow Madeline on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/madelinelaurano Learn more about Aptitude Research: aptituderesearch.com Tim Sackett Follow Tim on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timsackett Visit Tim’s website: hrutech.com

Marcus Stewart, Professor and Department Chair at Bentley University, has been studying workforce dynamics for years - and now, he’s watching the DEI movement take a nosedive while Gen Z struggles to find its footing in the workplace. In this episode, Marcus joins me to break down two of the biggest workplace shifts happening right now: the quiet rollback of DEI initiatives and why so many companies are unimpressed with their Gen Z hires. Is DEI truly dying, or is it just evolving? And when it comes to the next generation of workers, is the issue with Gen Z - or are we the problem? With deep expertise in organizational behavior and leadership, Marcus brings candid insights into how shifting workplace expectations, economic realities, and cultural shifts are reshaping how companies hire, retain, and develop talent. If you’re wondering what’s next for work, this episode is for you. Connect with Us: Marcus Stewart Follow Marcus on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/marcusstewart Tim Sackett Follow Tim on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timsackett Visit Tim’s website: hrutech.com

Jon Stross, Co-founder and CEO of Greenhouse, has been making headlines - but not for the reasons you'd expect. In this episode, Jon joins Tim Sackett to tackle the growing problem of 'ghost jobs,' those elusive listings that leave candidates feeling duped and disheartened. But are companies really out to deceive, or is there more beneath the surface? Jon guides us through the murky waters of hiring practices, from misunderstood job postings to the real reasons candidates get left in the dark. With candid insights from his recent Wall Street Journal feature and a deep dive into Greenhouse’s data, Jon doesn’t just spotlight the problem - he’s working on solutions that could change the game for job seekers and recruiters alike. If you've ever applied for a job and heard nothing back, this one's for you. Connect with Us: Jon Stross Follow Jon on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jonstross Learn more about Greenhouse: greenhouse.com Tim Sackett Follow Tim on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timsackett Visit Tim’s website: hrutech.com

On episode 116 of The HR Famous Podcast, long-time HR leaders (and friends) Madeline Laurano, Jessica Lee, and Tim Sackett come together to discuss their favorite Super Bowl commercials, Chat GPT, and how you can utilize AI to be a better leader. Listen below and be sure to subscribe, rate, and review (iTunes) and follow (Spotify)! :30 - JLee had Chat GPT write an intro for this episode! It didn’t do a good job the first time, so she had it do a second pass to make it funnier.  2:00 - The crew didn’t think the Super Bowl commercials of 2023 were too exciting. Madeline and JLee’s favorite was the Clueless one, and Tim shouted out the Workday and Dunkin commercials 7:30 - Another podcast, another convo about Chat GPT and AI. Microsoft Bing is trying to become the top browser again, and JLee is on a waitlist to use the program.  10:00 - Tim’s 2023 keynote is all about the future of recruiting with AI. He thinks that the only limit of what AI can do in TA is the limit of our imaginations.  14:15 - Tim speaks to the importance of narration with AI. With AI, you have to be the expert on your topic, but you don’t have to produce anymore.  17:00 - Madeline thinks another area that AI will completely change is travel. Imagine traveling and having the whole trip planned by AI.  20:00 - Madeline is surprised that we haven’t seen more people talking about AI and Chat GPT in the TA space. She thinks some people may feel threatened by the topic.  23:45 - JLee runs through examples of how to use AI to help handle a tough situation with an emotional employee.  27:00 - JLee talks about how being open and not intimidated by AI can allow you to use it as leverage and become better.  She uses a Teams tool that critiques how she speaks on calls and helps her improve the words she chooses.  31:00 - Tim thinks that Microsoft is the winner of the future of HR tech.  

On episode 115 of The HR Famous Podcast, long-time HR leaders (and friends) Madeline Laurano, Jessica Lee and Tim Sackett come together to discuss Ted Lasso, the everchanging recruiter experience, and Tim’s experience with the Michigan State shooting. Listen below and be sure to subscribe, rate, and review (iTunes) and follow (Spotify)! 1:45 - Ted Lasso season 3 is on the horizon! The crew gives their prediction for the new season coming in March.  4:00 - Madeline and Tim did a roundtable recently about recruiter experience. Tim doesn’t think it matters anymore, and JLee asks Tim to define it.  8:00 - Madeline mentions that a lot of people don’t know what recruiters do. Tim says that recruiting is the job that everyone thinks they can do.  9:15 - Tim says that when he was running TA at larger companies, senior leadership felt very comfortable giving advice to him about how to recruit, even though their advice was unfounded.  12:00 - JLee and Tim talk about how being a recruiter isn’t one of the hardest jobs that one could have. There are a lot of other jobs that require a lot out of the people who hold those positions.  15:30 - Madeline brings up a study they did at Disney where they found that the most important position at all of the Disney parks was the street sweepers.  18:30 - Tim’s opinion is that Chat GPT is going to change the landscape of everything in TA & recruiting. He says that the only thing that can’t be replaced by AI is the real conversation a recruiter has with a candidate.  21:30 - Madeline mentions a company who measures their recruiter productivity by getting them to “inbox zero”. She says she could never be a recruiter if this is a standard she was held to.  24:00 - Tim and JLee say they’d never judge one of the people they manage by the number of emails in their inbox. JLee judges people by the battery level of their devices.  27:30 - Tim’s son goes to Michigan State, and he runs a business in Lansing. He talks about his experience with and the aftermath of the shooting that happened on campus recently.  36:15 - Madeline asks Tim what he did about closing his business in the aftermath. Tim said that his Teams work groups were very active around the time of the shooting  

On episode 114 of The HR Famous Podcast, long-time HR leaders (and friends) Jessica Lee and Tim Sackett come together to discuss their favorite (and least favorite) Oscar-nominated movies, the difficulty of finding childcare, and how to handle annoying entry-level job tasks. Listen below and be sure to subscribe, rate, and review (iTunes) and follow (Spotify)! 1:00 - Madeline isn’t here because of last-minute child needs. Tim’s an empty nester and he says his kids’ still interrupt his life!  2:45 - It’s awards season and JLee and Tim are on the opposite ends of the spectrum on a big frontrunner, Everything Everywhere All At Once. Tim thought it was terrible, and JLee adores it. (Producer Cam, Tim’s son, is here to say Tim is horribly wrong, sorry Dad!!!). 7:30 - JLee diagnoses Tim with a savior complex which prevents him from watching/liking a lot of media. He’s a papa bear! 9:00 - JLee shouts out the Banshees of Inisherin. She says it’s one of the strangest movies she’s seen in a long time but also one of the best.  11:30 - This Wall Street Journal article has documented how childcare numbers haven’t recovered to pre-pandemic levels. Tim asks JLee if there are any things that JLee’s company is doing to help combat the loss of childcare.  16:00 - Tim has an idea to replicate Uber surge pricing with childcare to help out the childcare companies and also help those who have flexibility with their working situations.  19:00 - JLee notes that her colleagues know that when she’s working from home, there will most likely be children walking in her background. She gets good feedback from her team about the involvement of her kids in her work life.  23:30 - KD sent in an article about a congressperson’s staffer who has filed complaints against their boss. They felt like they were being taken advantage of. Tim reminisces on the things that he was asked to do when he was in entry-level jobs.  26:45 - Tim notes that a lot of the complaints over being asked to complete these kinds of tasks depend on who the person asking is. A specific person can make these tasks feel meaningful.  29:30 - Tim’s advice to entry-level/young people in careers is to be one of the last few people to leave the office. He warns against being “the early person” in the office and urges them to become the late person.  32:30 - Tim wants a “scoreboard” of badge swipes into the office. He thinks everyone will be in the office as soon as that’s implemented.