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I Hate It Here
Hebba Youssef
111 episodes
1 week ago
If HR is one of the most soul-crushing industries to work in, how come we’re not talking about it more? I Hate it Here is the unflinching podcast where People professionals to talk honestly and openly about HR, sharing best-in-class resources to make the hardest job in the world that little bit easier. Hosted by Hebba Youssef, Chief People Officer at Workweek and creator of the I Hate it Here podcast and newsletter, this show is for HR People who want to get things done right - even if they do feel a bit empty inside from time to time. You’ll hear from industry insiders, not just the same old voices, sharing all the things you’re secretly thinking but never said out loud, digging into real-life examples, and delivering practical solutions and strategies for your people team.
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If HR is one of the most soul-crushing industries to work in, how come we’re not talking about it more? I Hate it Here is the unflinching podcast where People professionals to talk honestly and openly about HR, sharing best-in-class resources to make the hardest job in the world that little bit easier. Hosted by Hebba Youssef, Chief People Officer at Workweek and creator of the I Hate it Here podcast and newsletter, this show is for HR People who want to get things done right - even if they do feel a bit empty inside from time to time. You’ll hear from industry insiders, not just the same old voices, sharing all the things you’re secretly thinking but never said out loud, digging into real-life examples, and delivering practical solutions and strategies for your people team.
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I Hate It Here
S10 E10: HR in 2026 - Wishes, Warnings, and Demands
Okay, we made it! WHEW. Welcome to the final episode of I Hate It Here for 2025, which feels both celebratory and mildly unhinged.  This episode is me doing what I do best: yappin with people I deeply admire and respect, asking them about their wishes for HR in 2026…while also openly admitting that I’m lowkey a little scared of what’s coming next.  The market is weird AF, recruiters are exhausted, candidates are frustrated, and the tools are absolutely not keeping up!  But instead of spiraling alone (okay, spiraling less), I wanted to end the year by bringing some of my fav people together, because the only reason I’m still standing in this job is community, collective honesty, and the belief that if we keep talking about what’s actually happening, HR might just survive, and maybe even win. Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of  — without burning out your team. Check them out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here. 0:00:36 - Cassandra Babilya’s Wish for 2026 0:13:05 - Stacey Nordwall’s Wish for 2026 0:20:26 - Morgan Williams’s Wish for 2026 0:25:38 - Cassidy Edward’s Wish for 2026 0:32:36 - Tara Turk-Haynes’s Wish for 2026 And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Cassandra: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassandra-babilya/ Follow Stacey: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceynordwall/ Follow Morgan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/morganbwilliams/ Follow Cassidy: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassidy-edwards-yyom/ Follow Tara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ttaraturkhaynes/ Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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1 week ago
44 minutes

I Hate It Here
S10 E9: Toxic Workplaces are F*cking us up with Chris Hagood
Raise your hand if you’ve worked in a toxic environment before! That’s probably 99.9% of you, so today we’re talking about those negative environments that get inside your nervous system and refuse to leave quietly.  The kind that turn you into a hyper-vigilant, over-prepared shell of yourself who flinches at a sporadic calendar invite titled “Quick Sync.” I brought back one of my favorite humans, close friend, returning guest, and resident shit talker Chris Hagood, because he actually understands the emotional underlayer of work, and I don’t mean just the LinkedIn version.  We get into how toxic cultures shape your identity, follow you long after you leave, and what it takes to unlearn survival mode when chaos becomes your baseline. Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of  — without burning out your team. Check them out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here. 0:02:43 -  How Lived Experiences Shape Your Reaction to Toxicity at Work 0:08:30 -  Minimizing Toxicity Because You’re Conditioned to “Just Deal With It” 0:14:44 - Why Old Patterns Get Reactivated in Toxic Workplaces 0:17:20 - Why People Doubt Themselves More After a Toxic Job and Not During 0:20:27 - The First Step to Undoing a Toxic Environment 0:40:37 - How Toxicity Distorts Your Sense of Value, Competence, or Belonging 0:45:24 - How Tolerating Toxic Behavior Creates Long-term Damage 0:48:07 - What Habits Stick With You After Surviving a Toxic Workplace? 0:51:58 - Advice to People Currently Working in a Toxic Environment And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Chris: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisrhagood/   Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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2 weeks ago
1 hour 1 minute

I Hate It Here
S10 E8: How Grief Breaks You, Then Remakes You with George Boone
Listen, I tried so hard not to cry recording this episode. Today George Boone and I are talking about grief, the thing that HR loves to pretend can be solved with a three-day bereavement policy and a sad little “OOO.”  But grief is messy and human and shows up everywhere: in how you work, lead, love, set boundaries, and literally get out of bed.  George and I both carry losses that changed us forever, and instead of shoving that into the corporate void, we’re unpacking what it actually means to keep showing up while your heart is busy learning a whole new shape.  It’s honest. It’s tender. And somehow…it’s also hopeful. Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of  — without burning out your team. Check them out ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here. 00:04:27 - Yes, George Boone IS Related to Daniel Boone and Benson Boone 00:08:43 - The Grief That Shaped George the Most as a Person 00:16:45 - How Grief Shows up at Work  00:27:38 - How Grief Shows up in Your Style of Leadership 00:34:03 - The Loneliness That Comes With Grief 00:39:32 - Functioning at Work While You’re Experiencing Grief 00:58:02 - How Grief Makes You Softer/Sharper And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow George: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgelboone/   Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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3 weeks ago
1 hour 13 minutes

I Hate It Here
S10 E7: Proof Your Job Is Rewriting Your Personality in Real Time with Jessie Stettin
Workplace culture rewires us in ways that could take a whole lifetime to understand. It shapes our identity, confidence, authority issues, communication style, and even how we show up outside of work without realizing it!  And Jessie Stettin and I go there: your real life shows up at work too, influencing how you lead, handle conflict, and how you interpret every “quick chat” from your boss.  Who would have thought that things you did as a child still influence your work identity in such sneaky ways??? Culture is this invisible exchange constantly happening in both directions, shaping you while you’re shaping it…whether you signed up for it or not. Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of  — without burning out your team. Check them out ⁠⁠⁠⁠here. 0:05:00 - How Jessie Became an End-of-Life Doula 0:10:09 - Childhood Rules We Assumed Still Applied at Work, But Don’t 0:18:50 - Lessons About Authority and Belonging at Work 0:26:41 - Cultures That Have Shaped How Jessie Thinks About Success 0:36:47 - Being Stuck in an Environment Where You Feel Like You Don’t Belong 0:42:43 - A Point in Your Career When You Can Influence Your Culture 0:56:02 - How Jessie Would Redesign How People Socialize at Work And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Jessie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessiestettin/   Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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4 weeks ago
1 hour 1 minute

I Hate It Here
S10 E6: How is Belonging SUPPOSED to Feel at Work? with Erica Lydell
Belonging at work is one of those things everyone claims to care about… right up until someone shows up as their full self and suddenly it’s “not professional!”  I hate the idea that someone has to assimilate to belong, so Erica Lydell and I pull the curtain all the way back on masking, identity, neurodiversity, and why belonging is less warm fuzzy feeling and more daily emotional CrossFit.  If you’ve ever been the only one in the room (or felt like you had to earn your seat) this episode will hit you square in the gut…in a good way! Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of  — without burning out your team. Check them out ⁠⁠⁠here. 0:02:23 - Erica’s Experience Riding a Camel 0:07:02 - Learning That Belonging at Work Isn’t Automatic 0:10:02 - Having to Mute Yourself in Professional Settings 0:18:13 - The Concept of Professionalism 0:26:59 - What Does Belonging at Work Feel Like? 0:42:01 - What Leaders Need to Understand About How Identities Impact How People Show up at Work 0:49:29 - Where to Find Erica And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Erica: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-lydell-b0933840/  Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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1 month ago
53 minutes

I Hate It Here
S10 E5: Shooting the Sh*t With My Direct Report with Madison Montgomery
Okay, friends…this episode is pure fun (okay, a little usual chaos too) in the best way, because I sat down with my actual direct report, Madison Montgomery, who confessed ON AIR that she has never listened to my podcast.  And honestly? Fair.  We talk generational gaps (including the infamous “generational shits” typo I will never emotionally recover from) and the magical Venn diagram that forms when an HR Millennial and a Gen Z truther try to get work done together.  It’s lowkey unhinged, but I hope some of you have this much fun with your own direct reports! Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of  — without burning out your team. Check them out ⁠⁠here. 0:01:34 -  Hebba Prepares to be Questioned 0:10:09 - Things People Ops Leaders Get Wrong Early in Their Career 0:19:13 - Inheriting Madision as a Direct Report 0:25:39 - How Hebba’s Management Style Evolved Over the Years 0:37:07 - Things Hebba Has Learned From Madison 0:47:10 - Rapid Fire Questions And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Madison: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/madison-montgomery14/   Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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1 month ago
1 hour 8 minutes

I Hate It Here
S10 E4: I Got Coached on Air and Survived with Mary Pat Jacobs
This episode might be my most unhinged and enlightening one yet.  The first half is a live coaching session where I fully spiral about my impatience and need for constant clarity (yes, I’m aware of the irony).  In the second half, we go deep on how your leadership style isn’t just who you are, but it’s who work and past experiences have trained you to be.  My guest, leadership coach Mary Pat Jacobs, helps me unpack the mess with empathy, humor, and more therapy-adjacent insights than I was emotionally prepared for.  Buckle up and get ready to take some notes, friends! Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of  — without burning out your team. Check them out ⁠here. 0:04:12 - The Coaching Agreement   0:07:42 - Determining Success During Coaching 0:18:41 - The Story Hebba Tells Herself About Disappointment 0:27:23 - How Feeling Disappointment Impacts Hebba 0:42:31 - Patterns that Most OFten Shape How Leaders Show up at Work 0:46:21 - How Early Career Experiences Subtly Shape Default Leadership Styles  0:51:22 - Helping Separate Who People Are From What Work Taught Them to Be 0:54:28 - A Belief Most Professionals Need to Unlearn to Grow And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Mary: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marypatjacobs/   Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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1 month ago
1 hour

I Hate It Here
S10 E3: Your Culture Can’t Outrun the News Cycle with Dave Garcia
Look, I know sometimes we like to pretend work exists in its own little bubble, but in reality, the world outside your office door affects…A LOT at work.  This week, I’m joined by my friend and returning guest Dave Garcia to talk about how immigration, inflation, and global chaos are all shaping company culture in real time. We’re unpacking what it means to lead when people are scared, burned out, or just tired of pretending things are “fine.”  Because the truth is that employees crave predictability in unpredictable times, and it’s on leaders to step up, define the mission, and actually mean what they say! So if your company culture feels a little shaky lately, this one’s for you. Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of  — without burning out your team. Check them out here. 0:02:47 - The Ripple Effect Immigration Has Inside of Workplaces 0:10:08 - How the Displacement of People is Shaping How Employees Think About Belonging 0:22:21 - What Responsibilities do Employers Have to Create Safety for Immigrants? 0:30:58 - How Financial Pressures Like Inflation are Showing up at Work 0:47:47 - How World Events Like War, Protests, and Climate Disasters Show up at Work And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Dave: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nycddg/   Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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1 month ago
57 minutes

I Hate It Here
S10 E2: HR Horror Stories: Unhinged, Unfiltered, and Unfortunately Real with Jessica Winder
It’s that time of year again: spooky season! Which means Jessica Winder is back, I’ve got my pumpkin cold brew, and we’re diving headfirst into the terrifying (and somehow hilarious) world of HR horror stories.  From mysterious “sick leaves” to love spells gone wrong, these are the tales that make you question how any of us still have jobs.  Fair warning: if you thought your HR nightmares were bad…buckle up! 👻 Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of  — without burning out your team. Check them out here. 0:00:57 - HR Horror Stories Intro 0:01:44 - Story One: Hit List Hotline 0:04:44 - Story Two: The Sick Leave That Wasn’t 0:07:26 - Story Three: The Extermination Incident 0:13:51 - Story Four: The Baby Onesie Stalker 0:22:09 - Story Five: The Lady in White 0:26:50 - Story Six: Love Spells and Employee Relations 0:26:50 - Story Seven: The Catastrophic Security Breach And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Jessica: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicadwinder/   Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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2 months ago
42 minutes

I Hate It Here
S10 E1: The Cost of Motherhood Nobody Talks About with Erin Gau
Motherhood at work.  Just saying that out loud makes my blood pressure spike a little, not gonna lie! Because being a mom already feels like the challenge of a lifetime, and then you add performance reviews, “flexibility” that’s anything but, and coworkers who suddenly forget how calendars work when daycare pickup time hits? It’s all mess!  But motherhood also changes how folks lead, empathize, and show up, in ways that deserve way more respect than they get.  This week, I sat down with Erin Grau, co-founder of Charter, to talk about the real cost (and quiet power) of being a mom at work, and what needs to change if we actually want to keep them there. 0:03:32 - One Part of Life Outside of Work That Shapes How You Show up at Work 0:06:16 - The Real Cost of Motherhood in the Workplace 0:09:06 - Has Erin Felt the Penalty of Being a Mom at Work Before? 0:13:51 - How Erin Changed When She Returned to Work After Becoming a Mother 0:21:50 - Why Does the Data Show that Moms Earn Less and Get Promoted Less Than Their Peers? 0:27:15 - How Performance Review and Manager Biases Play Into Motherhood 0:30:16 - One Company Policy That Can Change the Game for Mothers 0:38:28 - How Leaders Can Retain Working Mothers 0:45:17 - How Coworkers Can Foster Better Environments 0:53:27 - A Future of Work Designed With Moms at the Center Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of  — without burning out your team. Check them out ⁠here. ⁠ And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Erin: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eringrau/ Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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2 months ago
57 minutes

I Hate It Here
S9 E10: 50 Shades of Gray Areas in Policy with Stephanie Shuler
Look, I love a good policy binder as much as the next HR nerd (okay, maybe sometimes even more).  But here’s the thing no one wants to say out loud:  Sometimes the “right” answer on paper is actually the wrong move in real life. 🙃  In this episode, I sat down with Stephanie Schuler to talk about the messy, gray, can’t-Google-it moments where consistency, fairness, and actual human judgment all collide.  The easy answers may not always exist, but the better ones do!  Teamtailor is the fun, intuitive ATS that candidates actually like and recruiters don’t dread opening on Monday mornings. Create branded career sites, automate the boring stuff, and give candidates the hiring experience they dream of  — without burning out your team. 0:02:34 - One Hard Truth About Work 0:04:37 - When Policies Aren’t Written for Edge Cases 0:06:13 - Does Law School Help with HR Practices? 0:07:48 - When Following a Policy Actually Causes Harm 0:11:21 - Who Should Have the Power to Override Policy? 0:15:13 - Consistency Vs Fairness 0:19:21 - Keeping Exceptions From Turning Into Favoritism 0:22:25 - What to Say to a CEO Who Only Wants Things “By the Book” 0:26:53 - Recovering From Broken Trust 0:31:08 - Is HR the Enforcer of Policy, or the Translator? 0:35:48 - Breaking Rules as an HR Manager 0:41:46 - One Policy Stephanie Wishes Never Existed And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Stephanie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sdshuler/ Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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3 months ago
49 minutes

I Hate It Here
S9 E9: The Hidden Tax of Being the "Only" at Work with Amina Gass
Being the only at work isn’t just lonely, it’s heavy.  It’s the unspoken pressure of carrying an entire group on your back while still trying to do your actual job, all while dodging microaggressions and pretending you don’t notice the side-eyes in meetings. Been there too many times! In this episode, I sat down with Amina Gass to name the emotional labor that underrepresented folks shoulder every day, and we talk about how allyship, mentorship, and how genuine inclusion can make the difference between burnout and belonging. 0:02:05 - One Hard Truth About Work 0:05:02 - What Being the “Only” Feels Like in the Workplace 0:09:23 - How Emotional Labor Shows up for Women of Color vs Their Peers 0:15:18 - How Microaggressions Compound the Experience of Loneliness Over Time 0:29:30 - Myths About Representation That Should be Debunked 0:31:54 - What Does Support Look Like Beyond Token Gestures? 0:44:44 - If Orgs Were Serious About Change, What Would Look Different Tomorrow? Choosing the wrong HR platform is rife with regrets: losing a top performer, promoting the wrong person, or failing to engage your team when the business needs it most. Fortunately, you don’t have to choose between investing in people programs and consolidating your tech stack. With Lattice, you can have both. Visit ⁠⁠⁠lattice.com⁠⁠⁠ to learn more. And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Amina: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aminagass/ Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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3 months ago
57 minutes

I Hate It Here
S9 E8: No HR in Your Leadership Meetings? BIG Mistake with Ana King
If you’re still debating whether HR deserves a seat at the table, let me save you the suspense:  Your seat is already cemented there.  Hell, depending on the day, it might even be a throne! And today, I’ve got Ana King, CPO at SAPI, joining me to dig into this hard truth.  With experience at Twilio, Trainline, and Google, Ana knows firsthand that no leadership meeting should ever happen without the leaders in the room, and that includes People Leaders. We’re not support, we’re strategy. And if your exec team hasn’t figured that out yet…buckle up. 0:01:25 - One Hard Truth About Work 0:04:56 - Why No Leadership Meeting Should Happen Without Leadership in the Room 0:07:35 - Why Does HR Even Need to Earn a Seat at the Table? 0:11:27 - The Consequences of the “Earn It” Narrative 0:16:03 - A Time When Excluding People Leaders Backfired 0:19:21 - The Direct Link Between a Strong People Leader in the C-Suite and Commercial Success 0:21:50 - Why HR is a Strategic Partner, Not Just a Support Function 0:25:40 - What Separates Modern Leaders Today from Traditional Head of HR Roles 0:30:27 - Balancing Being an Employee Advocate and Being Accountable to the Business 0:36:22 - Why HR Sees Things That Nobody Else Can See in an Org  0:40:51 - How AI Will Reshape Everything We Do 0:47:07 - Ana’s Vision of the C-Suite of the Future Choosing the wrong HR platform is rife with regrets: losing a top performer, promoting the wrong person, or failing to engage your team when the business needs it most. Fortunately, you don’t have to choose between investing in people programs and consolidating your tech stack. With Lattice, you can have both. Visit ⁠⁠lattice.com⁠⁠ to learn more. And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Ana: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anastancu/  Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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4 months ago
55 minutes

I Hate It Here
S9 E7: Work Isn't Set Up to Support Neurodiversity with Tameka Allen
Hard truth: work wasn’t built for all of us to thrive.  Neurodivergent folks seem to deal with a lot of norms when they aren’t the problem—the systems are.  I’m joined by Tameka Allen, founder of ModCulture and all-around brilliance-unlocker, to talk about how workplace “norms” actually exclude, alienate, and erase so many people.  From the myth of “professionalism” to the way orgs treat neurodivergence as a personal issue instead of a design flaw, we’re pulling no punches.  If you’ve ever side-eyed a workplace policy and thought, “who is this even for?” this one’s for you! 0:01:55 - One Hard Truth About Work 0:02:57 - What Does Being Neurodivergent Mean? 0:05:43 - A Workplace Norm We’ve Accepted as Normal that Wasn’t Built With Neurodivergent People in Mind 0:10:28 - Why Orgs Treat Neurodiversity Like a Personal Issue Instead of a Systems Issue 0:26:19 - How Does Professionalism Become a Code Word For Conformity and Masking? 0:35:02 - Workplace “Norms” to be Aware of That Alienate Employees 0:46:13 - Myths About Neurodivergence at Work That Need to End 0:50:23 - What Would an Ideal Workplace Look Like? Choosing the wrong HR platform is rife with regrets: losing a top performer, promoting the wrong person, or failing to engage your team when the business needs it most. Fortunately, you don’t have to choose between investing in people programs and consolidating your tech stack. With Lattice, you can have both. Visit ⁠⁠lattice.com⁠⁠ to learn more. And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Tameka: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamekanallen/ Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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4 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes

I Hate It Here
S9 E6: Is the Future of Work F*cked? with Aparna Rae
When people say “the future of work,” I usually want to roll my eyes so hard they get stuck.  But let’s be honest: It’s chaos out there!  We’ve been sold the dream of four-day work weeks, AI saving us from boring tasks, and companies suddenly caring about wellbeing. Funny, RIGHT?  Instead, we’ve got AI gutting industries, a labor market so messy the president literally fired the stats guy, and climate change knocking on the office door.  In this episode, I sit down with Aparna Rae to ask the only question that matters: is the future of work completely f*cked, or can we actually build something better? 0:03:38 - One Hard Truth About Work 0:06:43 - The Future: Optimism, Doom, or In Between? 0:10:41 - AI Hype Vs Reality 0:18:30 - Could AI Lead to a Work Week Utopia, or Just More Work? 0:25:06 - How Geopolitics Impacts How and Where We Work 0:31:36 - Are Governments Prepared for the Disruption AI Could Bring? 0:36:47 - The Most Underused Force Shaping the Future of Work Right Now 0:43:13 - The Likelihood of Mass Job Displacement Vs Mass Job Transformation 0:52:46 - How AI Will Impact Our Life OUTSIDE of Work 0:58:34 - One Hard Truth Every HR Leader Needs to Accept About the Next 20 Years of Work 1:05:42 - What Work Looks Like in 2035 Choosing the wrong HR platform is rife with regrets: losing a top performer, promoting the wrong person, or failing to engage your team when the business needs it most. Fortunately, you don’t have to choose between investing in people programs and consolidating your tech stack. With Lattice, you can have both. Visit ⁠lattice.com⁠ to learn more. And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Aparna: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aparnarae/ Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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4 months ago
1 hour 16 minutes

I Hate It Here
S9 E5: No One Wants the Top Job Anymore with Ciara Lakhani
Remember when getting the top job was THE dream?  Corner office, big paycheck, fancy title, and all the LinkedIn glory shots you could handle! Yeah…now for a lot of folks, it feels more like winning a free trip to a haunted house.  In this episode, I had a fun but important chat with Ciara Lakhani to unpack why so many people are quietly saying, “Hard pass” to climbing the ladder.  We’re talking burnout, invisible costs, shifting definitions of success, and why ambition doesn’t have to mean signing up for 80-hour workweeks and emotional whiplash.  Newsflash: You can be wildly ambitious about your craft without ever wanting your boss’s job, and that’s not a failure, it’s a choice! 0:02:47 - One Hard Truth About Work 0:04:57 - Realizing Your Team Isn’t Interested in Climbing to the Top 0:08:06 - How the Idea of Success Has Shifted for This Generation of Workers 0:15:43 - Why Top Jobs Aren’t Appealing to Most People Anymore 0:18:06 - The US’s Perception of Work vs Other Countries 0:22:01 - What Does it Take to be a Great Leader Today? 0:27:51 - Why People Are More Reluctant to Take on Leadership Roles 0:22:01 - What Does it Take to be a Great Leader Today? 0:32:35 - The Invisible Cost of Leadership 0:37:17 - Is Opting Out of Leadership the Same as Lacking Drive? 0:40:21 - How Cutting Middle Management Impacts Leadership 0:41:55 - Getting More People Interested in Leadership 0:44:18 - Advice for Somebody Considering a Top Job, But Quietly Questioning It Choosing the wrong HR platform is rife with regrets: losing a top performer, promoting the wrong person, or failing to engage your team when the business needs it most. Fortunately, you don’t have to choose between investing in people programs and consolidating your tech stack. With Lattice, you can have both. Visit lattice.com to learn more. And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Ciara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ciaralakhani/ Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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4 months ago
49 minutes

I Hate It Here
S9 E4: 3 Career Wake-Up Calls You’re Ignoring (At Your Own Risk) with April Little
You ready for a nice reality check? I hope so, because today’s episode is built around three hard truths about your career that no one talks about enough: Working hard isn’t a promotion strategy.  Getting fired might be the thing that finally sets you free.  If no one with decision-making power knows what you do…you’re invisible.  I brought on April Little, executive coach, Time 100 Creator, and someone I’ve been professionally stalking on LinkedIn for years, to unpack all of it. We’re breaking down what it really takes to get ahead, how to show up as a visible leader even if you’re working remotely, and why a career low might actually be your launchpad.  This episode is part truth bomb, part therapy, and a full-on masterclass in owning your career narrative! 0:01:56 -  When April Found Out She Was on the Time 100 Creator List 0:04:40 -  A Generally Hard Truth About Work 0:07:49 -  Why Work Alone Won’t Get You Promoted 0:10:28 -  Tactical Ways to Build Relationships With Decision Makers 0:14:15 -  When You Do Everything Right and Still Can’t Get Promoted 0:17:50 -  Why Getting Fired Can Be a Gift 0:24:31 - The Difference Between a Career Low and an Opportunity to Course Correct 0:27:23 - Being a Visible Leader While Working Remotely 0:31:06 - Challenging the Idea That Working in an Office Makes You More Committed 0:33:51 - Rewarding Excellence in a Way That Doesn’t Depend on Physical Presence 0:47:56 - Where to Find April And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow April: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprillatoyalittle/ Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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4 months ago
51 minutes

I Hate It Here
S9 E3: CEO’s Gone Wild with Sarah Reynolds
Have you ever seen a CEO post online and thought, “Who approved this…and why was it them?” I think we all have at this rate! In this episode, I’m joined by the iconic Sarah Reynolds, marketing exec, pay equity champion, and all-around ethical disruptor, to unpack what happens when CEOs throw ethics out the window. From public tantrums to private chaos, we talk about the ripple effects of bad behavior in the C-suite and what it really means for employee trust, brand integrity, and workplace culture in general! Some of these CEOs are deff getting coal for Christmas. Some should get an audit. Either way, we had way too much fun breaking it all down, so if you’ve got a story of CEO drama, you might have to send it in. Part two is practically writing itself. 0:03:24 - One Hard Truth About Work 0:06:24 - A CEO Scandal Sarah is Thinking About 0:12:28 - The First Move When the CEO Becomes the Problem 0:16:38 - Scandals You Can Recover From Vs Scandals You Can’t Recover From 0:28:13 - Sarah’s Live Reactions to CEO Scandals 0:43:44 - A CEO’s Second Wind After a Scandal 0:57:25 - Final Thoughts and Advice Around CEOs Behaving Badly And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Sarah: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlizreynolds/  Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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5 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes

I Hate It Here
S9 E2: Why It’s Never Too Late to Pivot Careers with Ash Hynie
So if you didn’t know,I love a good career pivot story!  Today’s guest is basically the poster child for burning it all down and starting over, in the best possible way.  I first found Ash Hynie on TikTok like any good millennial does, instantly became obsessed, and then fully fangirled when we met IRL at a conference!  In this episode, we talk about why your job isn’t your identity (even if capitalism told you otherwise), how terrifying and freeing it is to start over, and why transferrable skills are your secret weapon, even when you feel like you have none.   0:02:42 - A Hard Truth About Work 0:05:00 - Ash’s Wild Career Arc: Chef, Engineer, HR, and Tech CEO 0:08:10 - One Hard Truth About Changing Careers That Nobody Talks About 0:15:50 - When Ash Realized Her Dream Job Wasn’t Actually Her Dream 0:28:42 - Advice for People Transitioning Into Something New 0:33:31 - A Skill That Has Helped Ash in Every Role She’s Had 0:40:11 - Things We Tend to Overlook About Transferrable Skills 0:44:23 - Advice For People Who Don’t Know What They’re Good At 0:47:38 - Are There Skills You Need to Unlearn in Order to Grow? 0:54:01 - What Prepared Ash to Become a Founder and What Caught Her Off Guard 0:57:10 - One Question Everyone Should Ask Themselves Before Chasing the Next Role And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Ash: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ash-hynie/  Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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5 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes

I Hate It Here
S9 E1: I'm Burnt Out, Now What? with Eva Bak
Burnout is basically an epidemic. And HR? We’re patient zero!  In this episode, I sat down with my brilliant friend Eva Bak to talk about what burnout actually looks like in our world—the mental load, the emotional labor, and the whole exhausting mess of trying to help people while drowning ourselves.  We get into the duality of being HR (hello therapist and policy enforcer), the unspoken trauma of offboarding, and why community is the only thing keeping us semi-sane.  If you’ve ever cried in a supply closet or considered moving to the woods…this one's for you. 0:03:01 - What is One Hard Truth About Work? 0:05:17 - Eva’s Interesting Trajectory Into HR 0:08:48 - Defining Burnout 0:17:43 - Important Factors That Contribute to Burnout in HR Today 0:26:21 - How Burnout Shows Up In HR vs. Other Departments 0:29:01 - Warning Signs of Burnout at Work  0:34:33 - Eva’s Personal Experience with Burnout 0:40:11 - Why Are HR Professionals So Prone to Burnout? 0:56:24 - Advice For HR People Currently Experiencing Burnout 1:00:19 - How Eva Hopes HR Culture Will Address and Reduce Burnout SPONSOR COPY GOES HERE TIMESTAMPS (from Madison) And if you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out  https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here for even more exclusive insider content!   Follow Eva: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eva-bak-8b7a9820/  Follow Hebba:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef
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5 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes

I Hate It Here
If HR is one of the most soul-crushing industries to work in, how come we’re not talking about it more? I Hate it Here is the unflinching podcast where People professionals to talk honestly and openly about HR, sharing best-in-class resources to make the hardest job in the world that little bit easier. Hosted by Hebba Youssef, Chief People Officer at Workweek and creator of the I Hate it Here podcast and newsletter, this show is for HR People who want to get things done right - even if they do feel a bit empty inside from time to time. You’ll hear from industry insiders, not just the same old voices, sharing all the things you’re secretly thinking but never said out loud, digging into real-life examples, and delivering practical solutions and strategies for your people team.