In Episode 198, Daniel and Christina connect with David Sunde, author of Homegrown Disciples, about parenting and disciple making in the family. David shares practical wisdom and personal stories, emphasizing vulnerability, creativity, and relationship over rigid rules. He introduces the idea of parents as “tour guides” in their children’s faith journeys and discusses hands-on activities to nurture compassion and generosity. The conversation offers encouragement and actionable ideas for parents to foster authentic faith, highlighting the importance of grace, presence, and shared spiritual rhythms at home.
Meet David Sunde:
David Sunde has been involved in local church and non-profit leadership for over twenty years from mega church to church start-up. David holds a doctorate in semiotics, culture, and the church through George Fox University and the author of Small-Batch Disciplemaking. David and his wife, Laurel, are at home in Austin, TX, with their kids Bjorn and Annika.
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We interview Chris Janssen, an author, life coach, and sobriety advocate. Chris shares her personal journey to sobriety, discusses her new book Grace Yourself: How to Show Up for the Sober Life You Want, and explores how addiction extends beyond substances to behaviours and thought patterns. She offers practical coaching tools for self-reflection and change, emphasizing self-compassion and the importance of defining sobriety individually. The conversation highlights the costs of numbing behaviours, the value of choosing growth over comfort, and encourages us to pursue authentic, fulfilling lives with grace and resilience.
Meet Chris Janssen:
Chris Janssen, MA, BCC, is a leading results coach in performance and mindset and a bestselling, award-winning author. She has worked with hundreds of sought-after athletes, creatives, soldiers, entrepreneurs, and small businesses internationally, helping them to close the gap between where they are and where they want to be. In addition to her academic achievements, Chris trained with and worked on Tony Robbins’ team of results coaches at the #1 personal development and peak performance strategy company in the world.
As a board-certified coach with a master’s in counseling psychology and over 25 years of experience, Chris excels in helping high-achieving perfectionists navigate performance pressure, overcome self-sabotage and rewrite narratives. Through her successful and sustainable Living All In methods, clients learn to attach meaning to life events and circumstances beyond their control.
A California native, Chris and her husband, Scott have been married for nearly 30 years. Together, they raised three children, now thriving young adults. Chris and Scott split their time between Los Angeles and Colorado and love to ski, golf, be with their horses and adventure outside.
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We interview Sarah Boyd, author of Turn Down the Noise, about overstimulation as an invisible epidemic impacting children, parents, and educators. Sarah explains how sensory overload affects mental health and family dynamics, distinguishing between tantrums and sensory overwhelm. She offers practical strategies for building resilience, including intentional downtime, playful family moments, and screen-free periods. Our conversation emphasizes understanding individual sensory needs, managing parental stress, and creating supportive environments.
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Sarah Boyd is a writer, child and adolescent development expert, and founder of educational company Resilient Little Hearts. She holds a Masters degree in Educational Psychology and a Diploma in the Neuroscience of Leadership. A native Australian, she now lives in California with her husband and two children.
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Episode 195 is one you won’t want to miss. Cassandra Speer—co-author of Ready As You Are—joins us for a powerful conversation on growth, purpose, and faith. Cass opens up about her journey from feeling completely unqualified tostepping into her calling as a Bible teacher and author. Her story is a reminder that God often calls us into spaces we never thought we could step into. We also discuss the courage it takes to navigate seasons of change, the beauty of supportive partnerships, how to foster unity in marriage, and what it means to silence feelings of inadequacy. Cass’s words will leave you encouraged to trust God’s provision and step boldly into your own calling—because you are more ready than you think.
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Meet Cassandra Speer:
Cassandra is a bestselling author, dynamic Bible teacher, host of the Hard and Holy podcast, and vice president of Her True Worth, a global ministry encouraging women to find their identity and validation in Christ alone. With a deep passion for the weary and wounded, Cass writes to offer hope and practical biblical encouragement to those searching for faith in the midst of life’s challenges. In addition to her writing and ministry work, Cass is pursuing a Master's in Biblical and Theological Studies at Denver Seminary. She lives in Oklahoma City with her husband and their three rowdy and wonderful children.
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In this episode, Daniel and Christina delve into the topic of emotions, especially in the context of parenting, with their guest Alicia Michelle, a certified Christian life coach. Alicia provides insights from her book "Emotional Confidence: Three Simple Steps to Manage Emotions with Science and Scripture," where she underscores the importance of acknowledging, discerning, and deciding how to respond to emotions. The discussion emphasizes the crucial role of understanding and managing emotions for personal development and fostering healthier family dynamics.
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Daniel and Christina chat with Shannon Brink, a nurse practitioner and author. The episode delves into the theme of waiting, particularly through personal struggles and relationships. Shannon shares her battle with insomnia and the lessons she has learned about waiting on God, emphasizing empathy and support for loved ones in similar situations. The discussion highlights the emotional and spiritual dimensions of waiting, its impact on personal growth, and the importance of community and genuine connection during challenging times.
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Meet Shannon Brink:
Shannon Brink is a Nurse Practitioner living on the Canadian West Coast. She has 4 children and spent 5 years recently as a missionary nurse in East Africa. She writes on Shannonbrink.org and you can follow her various publications there including free devotionals and real conversations with others waiting on God.
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Daniel interviews Mindy Caliguire, the leader of Soul Care and author of Ignite Your Soul, to discuss the state of people's souls in today's culture. Mindy shares insights from a "listening tour," highlighting a growing awareness of the inner life and a rejection of hustle culture. We explore the challenges of soul care, skepticism around spiritual formation, and the need for an integrated approach to well-being. Mindy uses wildfire metaphors to illustrate the fragility of the soul and emphasizes the importance of practices like journaling, prayer, and embracing hobbies to nurture one's inner life.
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Mindy Caliguire is the co-founder and president of Soul Care, an organization dedicated to helping leaders both personally flourish and achieve missional impact. Her latest book, Ignite Your Soul: When Exhaustion, Isolation, and Burnout Light a Path to Flourishing, is a powerful guide for recovering soul health in any and all circumstances.
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We interview Christa Hardin, a relationship expert, author, and podcaster about the role of Enneagram types in intimacy and sexual relationships within marriage. Christa explains how understanding each type's natural tendencies can help couples navigate conflicts and enhance their intimate lives. She offers specific advice for every Enneagram type, emphasizing the importance of open communication, vulnerability, and emotional connection. The episode provides practical insights for couples to foster deeper connections and improve their intimate relationships by leveraging the Enneagram framework.
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Meet Christa Hardin:
Christa Hardin, MA is a relationship expert, author, as well as host of the popular Enneagram & Marriage Podcast. Christa has been working with and researching marriage for two decades, providing hope for couples struggling to find their light, love, and mission together in any relationship season. Her most recent Amazon best-selling title, "The Enneagram in Marriage: Your Guide to Thriving Together in Your Unique Pairing," is now available wherever you buy books. You can catch up with her on the podcast at @enneagramandmarriage on Instagram, Substack at "Of Light and Joy". You can find her website, blog, and Enneagram & Marriage podcast links at www.enneagramandmarriage.com.
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Trillia Newbell, the author of Celebrating Around the Table, unpacks the book's themes of food, fellowship, and faith. Trillia shares how her family's tradition of exploring different cultures through meals inspired her book. She highlights key figures like Elizabeth Freeman and Ruby Bridges, emphasizing courage and resilience. The conversation underscores the importance of intentional family time, even with simple meals, and the educational value of learning diverse histories. The episode concludes with encouragement for families to cultivate deeper connections and celebrate their unique stories through shared experiences.
Meet Trillia Newbell:
Trillia Newbell is the author of several books including, 52 Weeks in the Word, A Great Cloud of Witnesses, Sacred Endurance, If God is For Us, Fear and Faith, and the children's books Creative God, Colorful Us, God's Very Good Idea, and Jesus and the Gift of Friendship. She is the host of the podcast 52 Weeks in the Word and hosts the weekly radio program Living by Faith from Moody Radio. When she isn’t writing, she’s encouraging and supporting other writers as the Acquisitions and Editorial Director at Moody Publishers. Trillia is married to her best friend, Thern, and they reside with their two children near Nashville, TN where they enjoy hiking and eating lots of bbq.
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In Episode 189, Daniel and Christina chat with Caroline Fausel, a health coach and wellness expert, about her newly released book, Simply Healthy Life. Caroline discusses the concept of a thriving life, emphasizing a holistic approach to health that includes physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual well-being. The episode covers practical steps for making healthy changes, the emotional connections people have with food, and the importance of sleep and exercise. Caroline also shares tips for developing consistent habits and the significance of Sabbath practices for overall wellness.
Caroline Fausel is the owner and blogger behind Olive You Whole, a successful clean-eating and lifestyle blog. She is passionate about helping women live healthier, more intentional lives. As a nationally certified health coach, she has developed a loyal community of followers who love her recipes and guidance on living a toxic-free lifestyle. Caroline is married to her college sweetheart, Chaz, and they have two precious kiddos, Ella Rae and Owen.
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Daniel and Christina talk with Steve Carter, who shares his journey through grief and insights from his new book, "Grieve, Breathe, Receive." Steve discusses his complex relationships with his adoptive and biological fathers, emphasizing the importance of processing grief with hope. He introduces a framework for navigating grief, encouraging listeners to honour their feelings and remain open to the beautiful surprises that life can bring. The episode offers valuable perspectives on healing, reconciliation, and the transformative power of hope.
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Meet Steve Carter:
Steve Carter hosts Craft and Character, a Preaching Today podcast for pastors and communicators focused on developing powerful communication and strong character. Each episode features conversations with ministry leaders on balancing skill with integrity.
Steve is a personal and executive coach, mentoring communicators to find their voice and guiding organizations through transitions. Passionate about bringing the way of Jesus into every setting, he teaches, writes, and crafts messages to inspire others in their faith journey. Steve serves as a teaching pastor at Forest City Church and speaks globally, based near Chicago with his wife and two kids.
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In Episode 187, Daniel and Christina chat with Erin Loechner—once a social media influencer with over a million followers—who made the radical choice to step away from the digital spotlight and embrace a low-tech lifestyle. Erin reflects on the impact of social media on her mental health, identity, and parenting, sharing how the constant pressure to stay “connected” was eroding what mattered most. In this conversation, she offers practical tips for reducing tech dependence, from simplifying devices to creating meaningful offline moments with loved ones, all while reminding us that true connection thrives in real life, not on screens.
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Meet Erin Loechner:
Founder of global tech-free movement The Opt-Out Family, Erin Loechner is a former social media influencer who walked away from a million fans to live a low-tech lifestyle—and is now teaching others how to do the same. Her cutting-edge work has been praised in the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, the Huffington Post, and the Today Show. When she’s not scrawling on her trusty steno pad, Erin, her husband, and their three kids spend their days chasing alpenglow, reading Kipling, and biking to town for more tortillas.
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In Episode 186, Daniel and Christina Im engage in a profound conversation with Chuck De Groat, a licensed therapist and author of "Healing What's Within." The discussion centers on themes of loneliness, healing, and the integration of spiritual and psychological insights. Chuck shares his journey in writing his book and emphasizes the importance of reconnecting with oneself. The episode explores practical tools for self-examination and highlights the significance of understanding and addressing deeper longings for connection and fulfillment.
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Meet Chuck DeGroat:
Chuck DeGroat is a professor of pastoral care and Christian spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan, where he also serves as the founding executive director of the clinical mental health counseling program. He is a licensed therapist, spiritual director, author, retreat leader speaker, and faculty member with the Soul Care Institute.
As a therapist, he specializes in navigating issues of abuse and trauma, pastoral (and leadership) health, and doubt and darknights on the faith journey. He trains clergy in handling issues of abuse and trauma, conducts pastor and planter assessments, and facilitates church consultations and investigations of abuse.
Before transitioning to training and forming pastors, Chuck served as a pastor in Orlando and San Francisco. He and his wife, Sara, have been married for 30 years and have two adult daughters.
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We interview Dr. Charles Fay, president of the Love and Logic Institute, about parenting strategies from his book "Raising Mentally Strong Kids." Dr. Fay emphasizes allowing children to experience and learn from mistakes, fostering resilience, confidence, kindness, and responsibility. He discusses the negative side effects of overprotective parenting and introduces practical techniques for encouraging problem-solving and independence. The episode also explores the role of mental hygiene, highlighting the need to challenge automatic negative thoughts and promote truthful thinking to support children's mental health.
Dr. Charles is an internationally recognized author, consultant, and public speaker. He is also president of the Love and Logic Institute, which became part of Amen Clinics in 2020. Millions of educators, mental health professionals, and parents worldwide have benefited from Dr. Fay's down-to-earth solutions to the most common and frustrating behaviors displayed by youth of all ages. These methods come directly from years of experience serving severely disturbed youth and their families in psychiatric hospitals, public and private schools, homes, and other settings. For more information, visit loveandlogic.com
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Is it possible to recover from an affair? Can you learn to trust your spouse again? Josh and Katie Walters candidly discuss their journey through betrayal and the rebuilding of trust in their marriage. Katie opens up about her emotional affair and the subsequent guilt and self-reflection she faced. Josh shares his initial shock and the struggle to process the betrayal, highlighting the importance of his decision to forgive and stay committed to the marriage. They explore the emotional cost involved in healing, the role of their faith in guiding them towards forgiveness and restoration, and the beauty that awaited them on the other side of the betrayal. It's not just their story; it's an invitation to anyone wrestling with forgiveness to find solace in the shared experience and redemptive power of grace.
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Daniel and Christina discuss the intricacies of marriage with Brian and Jen Goins and how marriage is like a living art form that demands creativity, evolves, and requires a blending of different perspectives and experiences. The episode highlights the re-release of "The Art of Marriage" series, which encourages couples to engage in open dialogue about love, intimacy, and the divine representation of God's love in marriage.
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Ever caught yourself scrolling through your phone while your child's voice fades into the background? Yup! Us too. Let's face it, the era of smartphones has us all hooked. But did you know that this habit might be doing more harm than good to our kids? Distracted parenting isn't just about not hearing their stories—it's about the message we send about their value to us. In Episode 182, Daniel and Christina breakdown the costs of distracted parenting and discuss how we can respond to our children's bids for attention to foster intimacy and connection.
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Daniel and Christina explore the nuances of apologizing in relationships by discussing the 5 Apology Languages by Dr. Gary Chapman. They delve into the emotional depth of expressing regret, the challenge of accepting responsibility without excuses, the significance of making restitution to show sincerity, and the commitment required for planned change to rebuild trust. Through personal anecdotes and practical advice, they underscore the importance of understanding and using these apology languages to foster forgiveness and reconciliation with the ones you love.
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Daniel and Christina delve into the complexities of resolving conflicts in a marriage, particularly in the presence of children. They discuss the importance of empathy, active listening, and collaboration in handling disagreements, and share personal anecdotes and strategies for effective communication. They also talk about the impact of parental conflict resolution on children, emphasizing the need for transparency and the creation of a safe space for family discussions. The episode offers practical advice for couples to navigate marital conflicts constructively while fostering a positive environment for their kids.
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Is it okay to fight in front of the kids? (00:00:01) Exploring the impact of parental conflict on children and the nuances of healthy conflict resolution within a marriage.
The generational effect of parental conflict (00:00:57) The impact of parental conflict on children's perceptions of relationships and the importance of modeling healthy conflict resolution.
The harmful effects of hostile conflicts (00:02:13) The negative impact of frequent hostile conflicts on children and the signs that a relationship needs help.
Gottman approach to conflict resolution (00:04:47) Understanding the concept of perpetual problems in relationships and the goal of regulating, rather than resolving, conflicts.
Listening and being heard (00:06:00) The importance of active listening and summarization in conflict resolution, fostering constructive dialogue and mutual understanding.
Empathy and perspective taking (00:13:33) The role of empathy in conflict resolution, its impact on emotional well-being, and fostering a deeper connection in relationships.
Empathy and perspective taking (00:18:39) The importance of empathy and perspective-taking in conflict resolution and share practical techniques for validation and understanding.
Collaborative conflict resolution (00:21:13) The significance of collaboration in conflict resolution, highlighting the need for mutual willingness to find sustainable solutions and the benefits of brainstorming together.
Transparency and family dynamics (00:25:40) The segment explores the educational value of children witnessing healthy conflict resolution, emphasizing the resilience of relationships and the importance of transparent communication within the family.
Repairing relationships (00:28:02) The importance of explicit communication and repair in the aftermath of conflicts, emphasizing the impact of parental transparency on children's understanding and emotional well-being.
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Need to learn how to fight well? Listen to our previous episodes about conflict resolution.
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Daniel and Christina discuss strategies for deepening love in your relationship. They explore how to address complaints constructively, repair conflicts, and avoid contempt. They also highlight the role of physical touch, expressing gratitude, and the power of forgiveness in strengthening marital bonds. The episode provides practical advice and personal insights for couples looking to enhance their relationship and foster a deeper connection.
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Share your complaint without pointing fingers (00:07:41) Discussing the difference between sharing complaints and criticizing your spouse, emphasizing the importance of addressing specific issues.
Repair conflicts with skill (00:11:14) Exploring the concept of solvable and perpetual conflicts in relationships and the significance of addressing and bouncing back from disagreements.
Stick to talking about the issues at hand (00:12:37) Emphasizing the importance of avoiding name-calling, personal attacks, and contempt in arguments, and the need to understand underlying emotions.
The impact of contempt on relationships (00:15:07) Exploring the destructive nature of contempt in relationships, its role as a predictor of divorce, and the need to avoid displaying contemptuous behavior.
Recognizing and addressing signs of contempt (00:16:26) Discussing how contempt can develop over time in relationships and the importance of recognizing and addressing signs of contemptuous behavior.
Moving toward reconciliation and repairing (00:17:26) Highlighting the significance of acknowledging and apologizing for displaying contemptuous behavior and moving towards reconciliation and repairing the relationship.
Extending the space between feelings and thoughts (00:17:48) Discussing how to extend the time between feeling anger and reacting, to respond instead.
Showing love through physical touch (00:19:26) Exploring the benefits of physical touch in relationships and the impact of a six-second kiss.
Growing fondness and admiration (00:21:18) Encouraging the practice of expressing gratitude and appreciation for one's spouse's positive qualities.
Seeking first to understand and then to be understood (00:23:04) Emphasizing the importance of active listening and understanding in communication.
Practicing apologizing and forgiving (00:28:19) Discussing the significance of forgiveness and the process of seeking and granting forgiveness in relationships.
Conclusion and episode recap (00:31:56) Summarizing the six ways to deepen love in marriage and expressing gratitude to the audience.
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Learn about the importance of turning toward your spouse and responding to their "bids"
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