It’s time to bust some myths and challenge some hot takes of the conservation detection dog world! Join Kayla Fratt (K9 Conservationists), Paul Bunker (Chiron K9), and Meg Barnes (Detection for Good) as they tackle common claims and controversies that impact dogs, handlers, and the field as a whole. From “training your dog on Kong will ruin them”, to “good training can fix anything”, to “working a dog is unethical”. These seasoned professionals break down why these ideas persist, why they’re wrong, and what good, ethical, and evidence based training really looks like.
Hot takes we BUST in this episode include:
If you train your dog on Kong/essential oils you will ruin them!
Detection dogs can’t do any other sports or it will ruin them!
Good training can fix anything!
Your dog wouldn’t do ___ if you were a better trainer!
You should starve your dog to make them work harder!
Confine your dog to a small kennel for days to “build their desire to work”!
Making your dog work is unethical!!!
You can’t train directional cues without an ecollar!
Force fetch is the only way to teach a dog to retrieve!
Our guests:
Meg Barnes
https://www.instagram.com/detectionforgood/
Paul Bunker
https://www.instagram.com/chironk9/
Host: Kayla Fratt
Editor: Sara Fangton
Guest logistics: Brooke Schoeder
Intern: Evelyn Combs
Website: Meg du Bray
Mentoring group: Madison Davis
Join Kayla Fratt (K9Conservationist) for a enlightening conservation with Kyoko Johnson and Marlee Monahan (Conservation Dogs of Hawaii), Sally Dickinson (Virginia Tech), and Arden Lumenfall (New York-New Jersey Trail Conference) as we learn about how organizations across the USA are engaging with their communities and using the power of volunteer detection dog teams to help further research and initiatives. Come along as they discuss how volunteers have helped further their causes, how they select dogs, and some of the challenges of using volunteers in the field.
This episode also features a science highlight on hard ticks (Dermacentor albipictus) and the effectiveness of detection dogs vs traditional tick drag survey methods
https://parasitesandvectors.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13071-024-06519-8
Sally Dickinson - Virginia Tech
Sally’s publications
https://data.lib.vt.edu/authors/Sally_Dickinson/11235291
https://www.instagram.com/vtcals?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=MW5kN2puMzY1MDQ2bg==
Kyoko Johnson and Marlee Monahan - Conservation Dogs of Hawaii
Website
https://www.conservationdogshawaii.org/volunteer/
Arden Lumenfall - New York-New Jersey trail conference
Website
https://www.nynjtc.org/conservation-dogs/
In this episode K9 Conservationist co-founder, Kayla Fratt, continues her story about her PhD research and Alaskan field season with a raw and honest look at what “ugly training” really means and why it matters. Kayla shares the realities of working detection dogs in unpredictable weather, adapting when field plans fall apart, and facing the heartbreak of realizing that not every talented dog is a fit for every project. From rough and rain-soaked boat rides to joyful breakthroughs in the field, this episode dives into the art of balancing research, intuition, and compassion in conservation detection dog work.
In this episode of K9 Conservationists, co-founder Kayla Fratt speaks about her PhD research. This episode covers background on the Alexander Archipelago wolf, some past research done by other biologists, and how dogs fit into the picture. She then discusses dog selection, onboarding, and training for this project. This episode ends with Kayla and her field technician Grace missing the ferry to Alaska.
Links mentioned in this episode:
Genetic Gobeldygook with Ellen Dymit https://open.spotify.com/episode/5oIRUv2sGmVXUYifn7vKee?si=b1b871f994534492
Detection dogs afraid of wolf scat (Vervaecke et al., 2021): https://journals.usamvcluj.ro/index.php/zootehnie/article/view/14092
In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla speaks with Ruan and Tina De Flamingh form Green Trax about incursion dogs.
Links Mentioned in the Episode:
Science Highlight: Domestic Dog Scent Marks Trigger a Behavioural Response in Wild Wolves
Where to find Ruan and Tina: Website
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla speaks with Crystal Wing about toy play to modulate arousal.
Links Mentioned in the Episode:
Science Highlight: Wildlife detection dogs effectively survey a terrestrial amphibian, but differ among individuals, weather and habitat
Where to find Crystal: Linktree | FDSA
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla speaks with Ryan Tate about Phytophthora and pigeons.
Links Mentioned in the Episode: Evaluating scent detection dogs as a tool to detect pathogenic Phytophthora species
Science Highlight: Should the cocktail training method cause a stir? Training frog generalist detection dogs with combined species samples
Where to find Ryan: Website | Facebook | Instagram
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla speaks with Sarah Jackson from New York-New Jersey Trail Conference about sticky sage.
Links Mentioned in the Episode: None
Science Highlight: Impact of variations in training schedules on dogs’ acquisition and retention of an odor detection task
Where to find Sarah: Website
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla speaks with Jo Laurens from The Force Free Gun Dogs about gundogs.
Links Mentioned in the Episode: None
Science Highlight: Switching to marine prey leads to unprecedented mercury concentrations in a population of coastal Alaska wolves
Where to find Jo: Website | Force Free Gundog Group
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla speaks with Lauren Wendt from Momentum K9 about large search area strategy.
Links Mentioned in the Episode: None
Science Highlight: Comparison of mechanical sorting and DNA metabarcoding for diet analysis with fresh and degraded wolf scats
Where to find Lauren: Website
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla is back for part two with Sage Gustafson and Tiff Shao about the challenging topic of life with high-energy, high-drive, and/or high-arousal dogs who are injured or sick or otherwise cannot physically perform the behaviors that their brains want without causing pain.
Links Mentioned in the Episode: None
Where to find Tiff: Website | Instagram | Facebook
Where to find Sage: Facebook
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla talks with Sage Gustafson and Tiff Shao about the challenging topic of life with high-energy, high-drive, and/or high-arousal dogs who are injured or sick or otherwise cannot physically perform the behaviors that their brains want without causing pain.
Links Mentioned in the Episode:
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla talks with Brett Sweezy about spatial ecology and sharks.
Links Mentioned in the Episode:
Science Highlight: Efficiency and Bias in Strip and Line Transect Sampling
Where to find Brett: Instagram | Bluesky
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla talks about breaking into the field of conservation detection dogs.
Links Mentioned in the Episode:
Science Highlight: None
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla speaks with Brenna Aizen from the Penn Vet Working Dog Center Wildlife Futures Program about dogs sniffing out chronic wasting disease.
Links Mentioned in the Episode:
Science Highlight: Effect of rapid changes in environmental conditions on canine detection of methyl benzoate
Where to find Brenna: Website | LinkedIn
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla is back with Dr. Charles van Rees to talk about getting into grad school.
Links Mentioned in the Episode:
Science Highlight: Trail vs. thicket: Evaluating conservation detection dog performance in varied terrain
Where to find Charles: Website | Lab Website | Instagram
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla speaks with Tim Hofmann, the Scat Dog Handler, Research Manager and Research Coordinator at Cheetah Conservation Fund about his PhD research using detection dogs and other methods to study cheetahs in Namibia and beyond.
Links Mentioned in the Episode:
Science Highlight: None this week!
Where to find Tim: Website | Facebook | Instagram
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla speaks with Paul Bunker and Meg Barnes about hot takes in the conservation dog training community.
Links Mentioned in the Episode:
Science Highlight: None this week!
Where to find Paul: Website |Facebook |Instagram
Where to find Meg: Website |Facebook |Instagram
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla speaks with Kat Serafina about plants and puppies.
Links Mentioned in the Episode:
Science Highlight: An approach to identify bias in scent detection dog testing
Where to find Kat: Website | Facebook
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In this episode of K9 Conservationists, Kayla speaks to Zoos Victoria Wildlife Detection Dog Officer Dr Nick Rutter and Human Surveyor Shari Barmos about Detection Dog Daisy searching for the critically endangered Tea-tree fingers fungus.
Links Mentioned in the Episode:
Science Highlight: The fluid dynamics of canine olfaction: unique nasal airflow patterns as an explanation of macrosmia
This biologist and her rescue dog help protect bears in the Andes
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