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Klorporate Espionage
Kayla Bassett
11 episodes
2 hours ago
👋 I'm Kayla, a Physician Assistant on a mission to figure out what comes next. When I started researching careers in health tech, I found confusing job titles and zero clarity on how people actually made the transition. 📅 Each week, we feature real clinicians: doctors, nurses, PAs, therapists, all who pivoted from clinical practice to health tech. They're now product managers, clinical strategists, CEOs, operations executives, and everything in between. 👀 Whether you're planning your exit, passively curious, or already working in health tech—this is your insider's guide. 🥸 Welcome to Klorporate Espionage.
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👋 I'm Kayla, a Physician Assistant on a mission to figure out what comes next. When I started researching careers in health tech, I found confusing job titles and zero clarity on how people actually made the transition. 📅 Each week, we feature real clinicians: doctors, nurses, PAs, therapists, all who pivoted from clinical practice to health tech. They're now product managers, clinical strategists, CEOs, operations executives, and everything in between. 👀 Whether you're planning your exit, passively curious, or already working in health tech—this is your insider's guide. 🥸 Welcome to Klorporate Espionage.
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Klorporate Espionage
011 | Joey Ferry RN, BSN | Innovation Begins at the Bedside

Joey Ferry was the first person in his family to graduate high school. An entrepreneur at heart, he became a nurse for job security, but he never stopped building things. Then he met Taofiki Gafar-Schaner, another nurse who'd spent months prototyping a solution to a problem they saw every shift: inadequate seizure padding on beds.

Instead of complaining about blankets and tape on bed rails, Taofiki showed up with a Ziploc bag prototype. Joey saw it and knew immediately what he had to do. They spent six years building Safe Seizure while working full-time, then used paternity leave as a trial run for entrepreneurship. Joey’s last day was the worst shift of his career, and he’s never looked back.

đź‘‹ In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Why Joey chose nursing over business school (and how he never stopped doing both)
  • How being clinical gives you a massive advantage when selling to hospitals
  • How they built for six years before going full-time—and why they waited
  • The "looking down for quarters" mindset: positioning yourself to get lucky
  • Why solving problems has to become a way of life, not a one-time thing

Joey Ferry, RN, BSN, is co-founder of Frontier Innovations and co-creator of the Safe Seizure Pad, which won the 2020 American Nurses Association Innovation Award. He believes the best way to get lucky is to never stop looking for problems to solve.

GET CONNECTED:

đź”— Joey’s Linkedin

đź”— Safe Seizure

đź”— Kayla’s Linkedin

đź”— Kayla’s Instagram

đź”” SUBSCRIBE for weekly conversations with clinicians who've transitioned into healthtech, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

Are you a clinician pushing the status quo? Reach out!

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3 days ago
1 hour 41 minutes 37 seconds

Klorporate Espionage
010 | Rami Wehbi DO | Treat Your Pivot Like a Fellowship - MatchDay Health

Rami Wehbi left family medicine residency. Not because of burnout in the traditional sense—because he realized from day one that clinical practice wasn't right for him. He spent the next two years failing at multiple startups, working urgent care shifts he hated, and finally figuring out what mattered to him: helping other clinicians escape jobs that were killing their integrity.

Rami is the co-founder MatchDay Health. He gave himself a three-year deadline, built traction with a paid community, and pitched his mentor like he was pitching Sequoia. Now MatchDay has helped over 100 healthcare professionals land non-clinical roles through personalized coaching fellowships—proving there's a massive market of clinicians looking for the exit door.

đź‘‹ In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Why Rami left residency (and how urgent care confirmed it was never the right fit)
  • How he failed at two startups before finding what worked—and what those failures taught him
  • The three-year commitment he made to himself that changed everything
  • Why he pitches MatchDay as "mini fellowships" instead of career coaching or courses
  • How to ask yourself the hard "why" questions that actually reveal what you want
  • Why falling in love with the problem is the key to building a sustainable business

Rami Wehbi, DO hosts The Dream Job podcast (formerly Beyond Medicine), where he interviews clinicians and founders reshaping healthcare careers. He believes that when you're unfulfilled at work, it spills into every part of your life—and he's on a mission to help healthcare professionals spend that one-third of their lives doing something that actually matters.

Interested In changing your trajectory with MatchDay? Use code KaylaBassett during the questionnaire or mention I sent you during your admissions call to receive an exclusive discount of $250 off of the fellowship.

GET CONNECTED:

đź”— Rami's Linkedin

đź”— MatchDay Health

đź”— DreamJob Podcast

đź”— Kayla’s Linkedin

đź”— Kayla’s Instagram

đź”” SUBSCRIBE for weekly conversations with clinicians who've transitioned into healthtech, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

Are you a clinician pushing the status quo? Reach out!

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1 week ago
1 hour 17 minutes 48 seconds

Klorporate Espionage
009 | Meredith Hickerson RN BSN | Solving For Patients Who Slip Through the Cracks

Meredith didn't seek out health tech—it found her. She started consulting while keeping her bedside job, learned how to curate clinical data for machine learning, and validated that nurses absolutely belong in SaaS companies. Then she built Illuminate's remote navigation department from scratch, grew a team with zero turnover, and now leads AI-driven implementations while juggling sales support, product development, and client management.

đź‘‹ In this episode, you'll learn:

  • How Meredith landed a health tech role by literally being someone's nurse
  • Why critical care nurses make excellent health tech hires
  • What "the follow-up problem" actually means; how thousands of incidental findings fall through the cracks
  • How to translate clinical experience into tech language when talking to engineers and data scientists
  • The difference between sales, customer success, implementation, and product management roles
  • How to get your foot in the door: consulting gigs, building CDI/utilization review skills, getting published
  • Why FPU (first productive use) matters in SaaS
  • How nurses influence product development just by being end users
  • Why LinkedIn doesn't have to be a toxic comparison trap

Meredith Hickerson, RN, BSN, is Lead Clinical Consultant at Illuminate Health. After a career in ICU and PACU nursing, she took a contract role with a health tech startup in 2018, and stayed for seven years. She's built patient navigation workflows, managed remote nursing teams, supported sales, influenced product roadmaps, and proven that clinical experience directly translates to solving tech problems. She believes curiosity and asking tons of questions are the keys to thriving outside the bedside.

GET CONNECTED:

đź”— Meredith's Linkedin

đź”— Kayla’s Linkedin

đź”— Kayla’s Instagram

đź”” SUBSCRIBE for weekly conversations with clinicians who've transitioned into healthtech, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

Are you a clinician pushing the status quo? Reach out!

keywords health tech nurse innovator entrepreneur healthtech saas product manager clinical innovation

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3 weeks ago
1 hour 7 minutes 36 seconds

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008 | Jordan Fisher PA-C | The New PA Blueprint and the Path to MSL

What happens when a PA does everything right: multiple specialties, side business, financial literacy, and still hits a ceiling? Jordan Fisher PA-C co-founded the PA Blueprint to teach PAs about money and burnout while working clinically. He later left clinical practice to become a Medical Science Liaison in response to that nagging feeling of “what’s next?”.

đź‘‹ In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Why year 5 as a clinician often triggers an existential "what's next?" crisis
  • Why financial stability doesn't equal job satisfaction
  • How Jordan leveraged PA Blueprint, public speaking, and subspecialty experience to land his first MSL role
  • The most important skill for an MSL
  • What it actually feels like to go from a clinical to non-clinical role
  • How commercial-side MSLs differ from medical affairs MSLs (and why it matters)
  • The importance of building traditions and rhythms to prevent burnout in any role
  • How to stay focused when you’re not seeing the outcomes you want
  • Why he's closing PA Blueprint after years of impact

Jordan Fisher, PA-C, co-founded the PA Blueprint to teach financial literacy and career strategy to thousands of PAs. After seven years in clinical practice across urgent care, ENT, emergency medicine, and head and neck oncology, he transitioned to Medical Science Liaison work. He believes in change, reflection, and building even when the outcome isn't clear yet.

GET CONNECTED:

đź”— Jordan’s Linkedin

đź”— The PA Blueprint

đź”— Kayla’s Linkedin

đź”— Kayla’s Instagram

đź”” SUBSCRIBE for weekly conversations with clinicians who've transitioned into healthtech, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

Are you a clinician pushing the status quo? Reach out!

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1 month ago
1 hour 2 minutes 46 seconds

Klorporate Espionage
007 | Breanne Kaiser MMSc LLM | Global Mental Health, Peer Support, and AI Guardrails

Breanne Kaiser MMSc, LLM is a lawyer, psychologist and healthcare operations leader who's spent her career asking the hard questions about mental health systems—and actually building solutions. From developing behavioral health initiatives in underserved countries to advocating for clinician voices in policy, she's proving that the people closest to the problems should be the ones designing the fixes.

đź‘‹ In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Why peer-to-peer support and community networks are more effective at preventing clinician burnout than top-down wellness programs
  • The real challenges of implementing behavioral health programs in underserved countries (infrastructure, funding, cultural adaptation)
  • How Breanne approaches building mental health systems from the ground up
  • Why she's concerned about youth access to AI tools—and what guardrails are missing
  • The risks of unregulated AI in mental health spaces where vulnerable populations are involved
  • Why clinicians need to be involved in AI development and policy-making, not just end-users
  • How mission-driven companies can prioritize ethical innovation in mental health tech

Breanne Kaiser is a psychologist and healthcare operations leader focused on youth mental health interventions and behavioral health solutions. With experience spanning community-based program development and international mental health initiatives, she's built systems in some of the most resource-constrained environments. Now she's consulting on behavioral health projects that center clinician input, ethical AI use, and sustainable support structures. Breanne believes the future of mental health depends on who gets to shape it—and she's making sure clinicians have a seat at that table.

GET CONNECTED:

  • Breanne’s Linkedin
  • Kayla’s Linkedin
  • Kayla’s Instagram

đź”” SUBSCRIBE for weekly conversations with clinicians who've transitioned into healthtech, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

Are you a clinician pushing the status quo? Reach out!

Keywords: healthcare career transition, health tech jobs for nurses, psychologist, healthcare operations, clinical burnout prevention, AI healthcare tools, NP burnout, non-clinical careers, occupational therapist, mental health policy, ai policy, adolescent ai use, ai safe guarding, physician assistant

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1 month ago
1 hour 11 minutes 8 seconds

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006 | Hannah Pugh, OTR/L | The Practitioner Pivot: From OT to Health Tech

If you’ve ever had that lingering feeling that you weren’t meant to spend the rest of your career in the clinic, you’re not alone. In this episode I sat down with Hannah Pugh, OTR/L, who transitioned out of her career as an OT after feeling stuck in her title.

Our conversation covers:

  • Why she felt she never quite fell in love with being an OT
  • How she approached exploring non-clinical roles, step by step
  • What course she took that rolled into pro-bono work for startups
  • Creative ways to beef up your resume
  • Landing her first full-time non-clinical role as Head of Clinical Experience
  • Ways her OT skill set enabled her to help build and inform product at her role
  • What a Customer Success Manager actually does
  • Why her social media platform, The Practitioner Pivot, was born
  • Conversations that are crucial for clinicians to have about career growth

Hannah Pugh, OTR/L, is the founder of Practitioner Pivot, LLC, where she empowers healthcare clinicians to discover fulfilling non-clinical careers. After years working across outpatient, inpatient, and acute care settings, Hannah realized her values of growth and flexibility extended beyond traditional patient care. She transitioned into the health tech space in 2021—landing her first non-clinical role through networking—and has since helped hundreds of clinicians do the same through her guides, workshops, and 1:1 consults. Passionate about helping clinicians see the value of their transferable skills, Hannah is on a mission to show that you are never â€śjust a clinician.”

GET CONNECTED:

  • Hannah's LinkedIn
  • Practitioner Pivot Resource Page
  • Practitioner Pivot Instagram
  • Kayla’s Linkedin
  • Kayla’s Instagram

đź”” SUBSCRIBE for weekly conversations with clinicians who've transitioned into healthtech, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

Are you a clinician pushing the status quo? Reach out!

Keywords: healthcare career transition, health tech jobs for nurses, clinical documentation improvement, AI healthcare tools, NP burnout, non-clinical careers, occupational therapist, client success manager, health tech product management, physician assistant

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1 month ago
1 hour 8 minutes 15 seconds

Klorporate Espionage
005 | Kory Kindle DPT | Field to Forum: Solving Language Translation as a Non-Techical Cofounder

Have you ever had a frustrating experience with a translator service in a clinical setting? Yeah, us too.

Kory Kindle DPT saw this problem as an opportunity — now he’s co-founding Vital Voice AI, an AI-powered real-time interpretation platform solving the language barriers he kept seeing compromise patient safety and care. He's proving you don't need a tech background to build healthcare solutions—you just need to pay attention to the problems.

đź‘‹ In this episode, you’ll learn

  • How Kory found his technical cofounder
  • Why you don't need coding skills to build healthcare technology solutions
  • The strategic advantage of maintaining clinical practice while developing your product
  • How to navigate the tech world as a non-technical founder without letting gatekeeping stop you
  • Why simplicity is actually the hardest thing to build in healthcare AI
  • How Vital Voice AI is addressing language barriers that impact patient care quality
  • What other issues Kory believes are legitimate patient care issue worth solving
  • What makes him optimistic about healthcare's future despite industry challenges

Kory Kindle is the co-Founder of vitalvoice.ai, building the next era of healthcare and emergency response through AI-driven communication. He is a former professional soccer player turned Doctor of Physical Therapy, with experience ranging from rehabbing top athletes to improving functional mobility of patients in the hospital. Now he is focused on bridging language gaps in healthcare so patients and providers can connect when every second counts.

GET CONNECTED:

đź”— Kory’s Linkedin

đź”— VitalVoiceAI

đź”— Kayla’s Linkedin

đź”— Kayla’s Instagram

đź”” SUBSCRIBE for weekly conversations with clinicians who've transitioned into healthtech, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

Are you a clinician pushing the status quo? Reach out!

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1 month ago
59 minutes 40 seconds

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004 | Erin Kreider RN NP CCDS | Shaping the Future of Documentation: Nursing to CDI + UM Product

If you've ever wondered why documentation matters beyond checking boxes, felt crushed by the emotional toll of bedside care, or been curious about the clinicians building the tools that shape everything in healthcare, this conversation will open your eyes.

đź‘‹ This episode covers:

  • The weight of being an empath in healthcare (and why it drives career transitions)
  • What CDI, MS-DRG, UM, and ICD-10 actually means for clinicians who've never touched revenue cycle
  • How your incomplete documentation haunts patients long after your shift ends
  • Whether you can burn out in non-clinical roles (yes, but differently)
  • Why AI tools aren't just nice-to-have anymore—they're necessary for clinician survival
  • How an NP becomes a product lead without losing her clinical identity

Erin Kreider MSN APRN NP-C CCDS spent years as a bedside nurse pouring her heart into patient care—and felt the weight of it. She grasped an opportunity to help build and implement a CDI program from scratch, learning the ins and outs of what makes “good” documentation and what gets hospitals paid.

After a few other career stops in Case Management and Utilization Review, and returning to NP school, Erin is THE swiss army knife of care delivery, patient navigation, and high quality billing and documentation.

Now, she's the CDI and Utilization Management Product Lead at Ambience Healthcare, bringing her depth of knowledge to build cutting-edge proactive AI tools to fix the documentation chaos she experienced firsthand and supercharge clinicians.

GET CONNECTED:

đź”— Erin’s Linkedin

đź”— Kayla’s Linkedin

đź”— Kayla’s Instagram

đź”” SUBSCRIBE for weekly conversations with clinicians who've transitioned into healthtech, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

Are you a clinician pushing the status quo? Reach out!

Keywords: nurse practitioner career transition, health tech jobs for nurses, clinical documentation improvement, AI healthcare tools, NP burnout, non-clinical nursing careers, revenue cycle management, Ambience Healthcare, health tech product management, physician assistant

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2 months ago
1 hour 20 minutes 45 seconds

Klorporate Espionage
003 | Elizabeth Santo DPT | Pioneering Womens Health from Physical Therapy to Program Management

Elizabeth Santo is a physical therapist who discovered that treating individual patients wasn't enough when one in four women suffer from conditions the medical system barely acknowledges. Now she's leading clinical program management for a digital health company, where biofeedback sensors, AI, and human clinicians converge to solve what traditional healthcare hasn’t been able to.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • How she transitioned to clinic-based PT to a role developing clinical programs at a unicorn health tech company
  • What "program management" actually means when you're translating clinical insights for engineers who've never treated a patient
  • Why pelvic health has been systematically ignored and how technology is finally changing that
  • The real work of scaling clinical programs: maintaining rigor while serving thousands instead of dozens
  • Why your clinical background might be your secret weapon in product development

If you've ever wondered whether there's more impact beyond the treatment room, how to speak both clinical and tech fluently, or what it takes to build healthcare solutions that actually address overlooked patient needs, this conversation will show you what's possible.

GET CONNECTED:

đź”— Liz’s Linkedin

đź”—  LIZ’S FAVORITE RESOURCES: APTA / Rachel Parotta DPT / Sara Reardon DPT

Are you a clinician pushing the status quo? REACH OUT!

đź‘‹ Kayla’s Linkedin

đź‘‹ Kayla’s Instagram

đź”” SUBSCRIBE for weekly conversations with clinicians who've transitioned into healthtech, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

#healthtech #healthcareinnovator #healthcare #physicianassistant #clinician

Themes: Clinical-to-product transition, women's health innovation, health tech program management, scaling clinical operations, biofeedback technology, building for equity, pelvic floor physical therapy, physiotherapy

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2 months ago
1 hour 19 minutes 19 seconds

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002 | Dr. Rue Laka | Bootstrapping a Longevity Medicine Practice and Leaving the Hospital

🩺 Dr. Rue Laka is a formally trained and forward-thinking Internal Medicine and Obesity Medicine physician turned entrepreneur who has fully embraced digital health. She is the CEO and Founder of Mecca Health, where she blends primary care with obesity and longevity medicine to enable her patients to optimize their health at every stage.

đź’ˇ In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Why she chose entrepreneurship over the traditional medicine hamster wheel
  • The difference between functional medicine and longevity medicine (and why it matters)
  • How she bootstrapped a concierge practice from scratch
  • Why the membership model creates deeper patient relationships than insurance ever could
  • Tech tools that actually streamline operations without overwhelming your practice
  • The truth about comparing your entrepreneurial journey to others

🤔 If you've ever wondered what it takes to leave traditional practice and build something entirely new, how to balance clinical excellence with business operations, and why lifestyle medicine is the foundation before advanced therapies, this episode is for you.

GET CONNECTED: đź”— Dr. Rue's LinkedIn đź”— Mecca Health

đź”” SUBSCRIBE for weekly conversations with clinicians who've transitioned into healthtech, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

Are you a clinician pushing the status quo? Reach out! đź‘‹

#healthtech #physicianentrepreneur #longevitymedicine #functionalmedicine #healthcare #physicianassistant #clinician #healthcareinnovation #conciergemedicine

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2 months ago
49 minutes 28 seconds

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001 | Caleb Williams RN, BSN | Failing Forward in Healthcare Innovation

âť” What do glass ampules, Code Blue charting, and tangled IV lines have in common? They're all problems Caleb Williams tried to solve as a nurse innovator.

đź’ˇ In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Why his first product idea couldn't find a market
  • How he turned Upwork side gigs into Fortune 500 consulting clients
  • Lessons from raising capital as a nurse with no business background
  • What "driving product development" actually looks like day-to-day
  • How he landed a Chief Clinical Officer role without leaving nursing

🤔 If you've ever wondered why hospitals need more clinicians in product development, how to identify problems worth solving, and the business lessons Caleb learned by doing, this episode is for you.

🩺 Caleb Williams is a nurse innovator whose impact is felt far beyond the hospital walls. During his time as an ER + ICU nurse, he went above and becoming ICU supervisor at just 24 years old and an active member of inpatient leadership. He is the founder of Med Content Pros, a marketing agency that helps companies reach more clinicians with their messaging. Most recently he is the Chief Clinical Officer of Crimson Medical Solutions where he translates his lived clinical experience into product development and implementation of a game-changing hardware solution for ICU nurses.

GET CONNECTED:

đź”— Caleb's Linkedin

đź”— Crimson Medical

đź”— Med Content Pros

đź”” SUBSCRIBE for weekly conversations with clinicians who've transitioned into healthtech, innovation, and entrepreneurship.

Are you a clinician pushing the status quo? Reach out!

#healthtech #nurseinnovator #healthcare #physicianassistant #clinician

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2 months ago
1 hour 8 minutes 33 seconds

Klorporate Espionage
👋 I'm Kayla, a Physician Assistant on a mission to figure out what comes next. When I started researching careers in health tech, I found confusing job titles and zero clarity on how people actually made the transition. 📅 Each week, we feature real clinicians: doctors, nurses, PAs, therapists, all who pivoted from clinical practice to health tech. They're now product managers, clinical strategists, CEOs, operations executives, and everything in between. 👀 Whether you're planning your exit, passively curious, or already working in health tech—this is your insider's guide. 🥸 Welcome to Klorporate Espionage.