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Lit Talk*
Bond and Grace
16 episodes
5 days ago
The show for people who love to think, talk, and learn about books, Lit Talk* explores the strange, fascinating, and completely true stories behind your favorite classic novels. Each season investigates a work of fiction, its historical influences, the life of its author, and how we can apply its teachings to our modern lives. Scholars, industry experts, and book lovers join us in conversation to get to the heart of what makes these timeless stories so extraordinary, and why they are just as important today as they were when they were written.
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The show for people who love to think, talk, and learn about books, Lit Talk* explores the strange, fascinating, and completely true stories behind your favorite classic novels. Each season investigates a work of fiction, its historical influences, the life of its author, and how we can apply its teachings to our modern lives. Scholars, industry experts, and book lovers join us in conversation to get to the heart of what makes these timeless stories so extraordinary, and why they are just as important today as they were when they were written.
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Lit Talk*
*The Great Gatsby | Ep 9: West Egg Story

The party is coming to a close. Soon the music will end, the lights will be shut off, the groundkeepers will start cleaning up, and all we’ll have left is the memory...but maybe this story was already a memory.


In the final episode of season 2, Nesha and Bobby sit down with Kait Kerrigan of The Great Gatsby Musical, currently on Broadway, to discuss bringing the novel to the stage, Nick’s fractured memory, and what Gatsby means…100 years later. 

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3 months ago
41 minutes 7 seconds

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*The Great Gatsby | Ep 8: Death on the Isle

If Chapter 7 was about the true James Gatz, the man hidden beneath the veneer of Gatsby, Chapter 8 is about the true world, the one hidden beneath the shiny exterior of the dreams we adorn it with. What Fitzgerald creates is a world without meaning, a world of raw matter, and while it isn’t a pretty sight, it's an important one. 


In our penultimate episode of season 2, Bobby and Nesha sit down with book collector and Fitzgerald aficionado Sarah Goldstein to discuss the Great Depression, Bruce Springsteen, and what happens when dreams don’t come true.


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3 months ago
32 minutes 49 seconds

Lit Talk*
*The Great Gatsby | Ep 7: Portrait of the Artist as an Old Man

There is a distinct quality to Fitzgerald’s writing that made it so unique in 1925. It was not just that it was beautiful, but that it was cinematic. Today, we are used to reading books and imagining their scenes playing out on the big screen, but before the rise of Hollywood, this mode of reading and writing stories within the cinematic imagination didn’t exist. And while Scott could write cinematic novels better than just about anyone, actually writing for film was a whole other story…


In this episode, Nesha and Bobby sit down with comedian Beth Stelling to discuss writing for Hollywood, early 2000s pick-up artists, and whether aspiring artists are romantic heroes or delusional fools.

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4 months ago
33 minutes 38 seconds

Lit Talk*
*The Great Gatsby | Ep 6: The Picture of James Gatz

Nick and Gatsby’s relationship is intimate, to say the least. Of all the attendees at Gatsby’s party, it’s Nick who receives a formal invitation. It’s Nick to whom Gatsby confesses his true origins, and it’s Nick who arranges Gatsby’s funeral, meets with his father, and stays with him until the very end. Therefore, it’s little wonder that Queer readings of the novel have emerged; the book positively brims with innuendo and unspoken desire. 


This episode, Nesha and Bobby are joined by novelist AJ Odasso to discuss fan fiction, crying in English class, and what Queer life was like in the 1920s. Also, the fine line the characters in Gatsby straddle between love and obsession.

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4 months ago
42 minutes 15 seconds

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*The Great Gatsby | E5: Miss Daisy Drives Herself

F. Scott Fitzgerald identified a fatal flaw in The Great Gatsby—the novel's women. In this episode, we’ll be talking about the girls of Gatsby alongside another 1920s classic that, in many ways, is Gatsby if it were written for and by women. That novel is Ex-Wife by Ursula Parrott


Joining Bobby and Nesha is Dr. Marsha Gordon. Together, we’ll discuss the New Women of the 1920s, if Daisy is a victim or a perpetrator, and how traditional values are being repackaged for modern women.


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4 months ago
38 minutes 44 seconds

Lit Talk*
*The Great Gatsby | E4: To Kill a Millionaire

In the 1920s, the United States was changing. By boat and by train, European immigrants and Black migrants arrived in New York trying to achieve the American Dream. And while Jay Gatsby isn’t secretly an immigrant or a migrant, he is metaphorically an immigrant and a migrant. 


Join Bobby and Nesha for a conversation with Dr. Caroline Brown about the changing racial and ethnic landscape of America in the 1920s, how Gatsby represents a country in flux, and why we’re still dealing with the racist ideas of Tom Buchanan…100 years later. 


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4 months ago
39 minutes 31 seconds

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*The Great Gatsby | E3: Gatsby in Wonderland

Jay Gatsby’s parties are described as a neon-bright spectacle, a gilded carnival. The music is playing, the liquor is flowing, and is that the latest film star dipping her toes into the pool? But there is also a dark, tragic mystery that lurks beneath the surface. Because what is a spectacle without a hint of foreboding? A perfect summer day with storm clouds on the horizon...


Join Bobby and Nesha for a conversation with Dr. Philip McGowan about carnivals, earthquakes, and why Americans can't resist a spectacle.


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4 months ago
35 minutes 57 seconds

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*The Great Gatsby | E2: The House of Worth

The Great Gatsby is, at its core, a novel about class. You fundamentally cannot read the book without engaging with it. This, perhaps, is why its status as The Great American novel is so fascinating, because we Americans, as much as we like to pretend otherwise, are deeply uncomfortable discussing class. 


This episode, Bobby and Nesha sit down with Dr. Michael Nowlin to talk about the laboring underclass in Gatsby, discuss the outrageous spending habits of F. Scott Fitzgerald, and break down the competing messages of the American dream. Deep in the Valley of Ashes is where the real story of America unfolds. Meet you there.



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5 months ago
28 minutes 46 seconds

Lit Talk*
*The Great Gatsby | E1: East O' The Sound

The Great Gatsby is a deceptively simple text. It comes in at roughly 200 pages, and most of us read it before we turn 18. But as any novel that is so much about lies and facades should be, there are many hidden messages to be uncovered in its lush, radiant prose...


On episode 1 of the new season of Lit Talk* Bobby and Nesha sit down with Hillary Copsey from the Mercantile Library to discuss unreliable narrators, flyover states, and whether Gatsby truly is The Great American Novel.

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5 months ago
34 minutes 27 seconds

Lit Talk*
*The Great Gatsby Trailer

Hello Old Sports.

This season on Lit Talk we are diving headfirst into the glittering, gleaming world of F. Scott Fitzgerald’s magnum opus, The Great Gatsby; a novel that has shaped the literary canon and our very national identity for the last century.  The first of nine episodes airs June 11th and will drop weekly on Wednesdays.

So get gussied up, down a shot of liquid courage, and get ready for the ride of your lives. This is a party you don’t want to miss. 


Bond & Grace's Lit Talk* is the show for people who love to think, talk, and learn about books. Lit Talk* explores the strange, fascinating, and completely true stories behind your favorite classic novels. 

Each season investigates a work of fiction, its historical influences, the life of its author, and how we can apply its teachings to our modern lives. Scholars, industry experts, and book lovers join us in conversation to get to the heart of what makes these timeless stories so extraordinary, and why they are just as important today as they were when they were written.


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5 months ago
1 minute 44 seconds

Lit Talk*
*Frankenstein | E5: Of Beauties & Beasts

There is one question the novel really, really doesn't want to answer. What does the Creature look like? 

While Mary Shelley describes the Creature, we still never really get a good look at him. Considering the plot of the entire novel rests on his hideousness, he’s remarkably difficult to pin down. In this episode, we are going to be getting into why. Why is a novel that is so focused on beauty, or the lack thereof, so cagey about what this monster looks like, and what Mary Shelley is trying to tell us about appearance, monstrosity, and the bizarre terrain of our own bodies?


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1 year ago
55 minutes 52 seconds

Lit Talk*
*Frankenstein | E4: Sense & Sustainability

We read Frankenstein as a novel about science, which it undoubtedly is, but it's also a novel about nature. The natural world is fundamental to the novel, in many ways, the landscapes serve as an additional character. They impact the plot, trigger emotional insights, and reveal fascinating messages to those who are wise enough to listen.  

This episode we will delve into how Mary Shelley’s romantic peers imagined nature, and how Mary, ever subtle, undermined this view and replaced it with her own unique warning. And while the views may be beautiful, be warned dear listeners, the places we will be visiting this episode are no paradise...


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1 year ago
1 hour 2 minutes 37 seconds

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*Frankenstein | E3: A Tale of Two Marys

Before there was Mary Shelley, there was her mother, Mary Wollstonecraft. She was an early founder of romanticism, a pioneering feminist writer, or as the press called her, "a hyena in petticoats". Her story is wild, wicked, and wonderful and had an enormous influence on the scary stories her daughter would one day write. You've heard of feminine rage, prepare to encounter the feminine strange, as we delve into how Frankenstein is a surprisingly feminist text.

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1 year ago
56 minutes 4 seconds

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*Frankenstein | E2: I, Prometheus

When we say the words scientific revolution, what comes to mind? Perhaps it is the clean white lines of lab coats and test tubes, electric vehicles and virtual reality , the eccentrics and tech bros of silicon valley.  Needless to say, none of these things are to be found in Mary Shelley’s scientific revolution. Hers is grimmer, grimier, full of long shadows and dark hallways. It is grotesque and macabre, sharp scapulas and operating tables and nary a washed hand. It is dangerous, lethal, even. It is this world we will be exploring today...


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1 year ago
1 hour 3 minutes 44 seconds

Lit Talk*
*Frankenstein | E1: Strange New World

In 1818, Frankenstein broke ground by creating space for its readers to interrogate the morals of the day’s emerging sciences. Within its safe and wholly hypothetical pages, it was a place where readers could engage with their fears of new technology, anxieties about religion, and the questions of what we owe each other. Frankenstein was forged in the crucible of revolution–scientific revolution, political revolution, and social revolution. It predicted a future of unbridled scientific advancement, one that perhaps far outpaced our emotional maturity and sense of responsibility towards the earth and one another. In this episode, we reintroduce you to the story and the fascinating woman who wrote it.


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1 year ago
51 minutes 24 seconds

Lit Talk*
Lit Talk* ...where stories come to life

Over 200 years ago, in an old villa on the shores of Lake Geneva, a group of travelers decided to have a ghost story competition. The poet, the playboy, the doctor, the jealous step-sister, and the 18-year-old girl who would change literature forever. We speak of Mary Shelley, and her unholy creation, Frankenstein.

In the first season of our new podcast Lit Talk*, we will explore her story as you have never heard it before. All episodes available this fall.


Bond & Grace's Lit Talk* is the show for people who love to think, talk, and learn about books. Lit Talk* explores the strange, fascinating, and completely true stories behind your favorite classic novels. 

Each season investigates a work of fiction, its historical influences, the life of its author, and how we can apply its teachings to our modern lives. Scholars, industry experts, and book lovers join us in conversation to get to the heart of what makes these timeless stories so extraordinary, and why they are just as important today as they were when they were written.



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1 year ago
1 minute 17 seconds

Lit Talk*
The show for people who love to think, talk, and learn about books, Lit Talk* explores the strange, fascinating, and completely true stories behind your favorite classic novels. Each season investigates a work of fiction, its historical influences, the life of its author, and how we can apply its teachings to our modern lives. Scholars, industry experts, and book lovers join us in conversation to get to the heart of what makes these timeless stories so extraordinary, and why they are just as important today as they were when they were written.