In this episode Ryan speaks with Dr. Julie Washington to explore language, literacy, and reading development. Drawing on decades of research focused on African American English, dialect variation, and reading acquisition, Dr. Julie Washington unpacks how language evolves within communities and what educators often miss when implementing the science of reading. Together, they discuss linguistic distance, the critical role of oral language, the need for meaningful reading time and integration, and how schools can better support diverse learners by rethinking schedules, instruction, and collaborations.
Dr. Washington is a Professor in the School of Education at the University of California – Irvine (UCI). She is a Speech-Language Pathologist and is a Fellow of the American Speech Language Hearing Association. Dr. Washington directs the Learning Disabilities Research Innovation Hub funded by the National Institutes of Health, Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute on Child Health and Human Development. She is also director of the Dialect, Poverty and Academic Success Lab at UCI.
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This episode features Dr. Young-Suk Kim, a leading researcher and professor at the University of California, Irvine, whose work explores how reading and writing develop together across languages and cultures. Dr. Kim discusses her path from bilingual classroom teacher to scientist, emphasizing the importance of recognizing the diversity and strengths of multilingual learners. She also unpacks her Direct and Indirect Effects of Reading model (DIER), to explain how foundational, cognitive, and emotional skills interconnect to support literacy growth.
About our guest:
Young-Suk Kim is a professor at the School of Education, University of California, Irvine. A former classroom teacher in San Francisco, Young’s scholarship focuses on understanding language and literacy development and effective instruction for racially, ethnically, economically, and linguistically diverse children, and helping them build strong foundations to support their success in school and beyond. Her areas of research include reading comprehension, reading fluency, listening comprehension and oral language, dyslexia, higher-order cognitive skills, written composition, and reading–writing relations. She has worked extensively with monolingual children from various linguistic backgrounds (e.g., English, Korean, Chinese, Spanish, Kiswahili) and multilingual children in the United States. Her research has been supported by the Institute of Education Sciences, the U.S. Department of Education, the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, and the National Science Foundation. She was a recipient of the 2012 Presidential Early Career Award for Scientists and Engineers by President Barack Obama and is the AERA (American Educational Research Association) fellow.
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In this episode we welcome Dr. Laura Rhinehart of UCLA’s School of Education and Information Studies for an in-depth conversation about literacy, equity, and the science of reading. Dr. Rhinehart shares her unconventional journey from philosophy major to special education teacher and researcher, detailing experiences in juvenile facilities and charter schools that shaped her commitment to early intervention and equitable literacy access. She discusses her work at the UCLA Center for Dyslexia, Diverse Learners, and Social Justice, emphasizing reading as a basic human right and the importance of evidence-based, inclusive approaches to literacy. The conversation explores misconceptions surrounding the science of reading, the role of neuroscience, oral language, and how educators can apply scientific findings flexibly in their classrooms.
Laura Rhinehart is an Assistant Researcher in the Department of Education at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). She earned her Ph.D. in Special Education from UCLA and California State University, Los Angeles. Dr. Rhinehart’s research on reading, learning disabilities, ADHD, and dyslexia has been published in peer-reviewed academic journals. In 2024, she received the Early Career Publication Award from the Council for Exceptional Children’s Division for Research for her article, “Children Who Receive Special Education Services for ADHD”, published in the Journal of Emotional and Behavioral Disorders. Her current research focuses on dyslexia, assessment/screening, and children’s executive functioning skills. She is also interested in developing and testing interventions for students with ADHD and/or dyslexia.
Resources Shared by Dr. Rhinehart
Josh is a humanitarian. He champions the cause of neuro-diversity in education and promotes the science of reading as a vehicle for education reform and social good. He is chair of the International Dyslexia Association and an expert contributor to the global nonprofit Made By Dyslexia and Microsoft Education. He also co-founded the Association of LD Schools (ALDS) and sits on their board, along with the board of the National Association of Independent Schools (NAIS). Josh has presented about the importance of recognizing and supporting students with language-based learning disabilities (LBLD) all over the world.
Josh is a life-long educator. He began his career in education at Lausanne Collegiate School, an International Baccalaureate World School in Memphis, Tenn., where he served as assistant head of the Middle School and a middle and high school English teacher for seven years. Prior to his current position at Landmark School, Josh served as the head of two different schools that serve students with dyslexia, the Bodine School in Memphis, Tenn. and The Schenck School in Atlanta, Ga.
Josh is currently the head of Landmark School and Landmark Outreach.
Born and raised in Monroe, Louisiana, Ray is a critically conscious and outcomes-driven educational leader. Over nearly 15 years, Ray has held various roles in schools and communities in Baton Rouge, LA, Atlanta, GA, and Newark, NJ including substitute teacher, graduate assistant, literacy teacher, educational policy fellow, instructional coach, education community organizer, curriculum auditor, assistant principal, adjunct professor, and educational consultant.
Ray firmly believes in the limitless potential & power of all children and knows they will be the leaders of their revolution - now and later. As a third-year Head of School at The Boyce L. Ansley School in Atlanta, Ray looks forward to strong stewardship, community coalition building, and most of all - continuing to co-create the most optimal conditions that Ansley School students, families, staff, and community deserve.
Special guests featured in this episode include:
Dr. Lisa Domke is an assistant professor in the College of Education and Human Development at Georgia State University.
Dr. Elsa Cárdenas-Hagan is a bilingual speech and language pathologist, a certified teacher, dyslexia therapist, certified academic language therapist and a qualified instructor.
Dr. Shurita Thomas-Tate is an associate professor of speech-language pathology in the Department of Communication Sciences and Disorders at Missouri State University.
Dr. Ginger Collins is a Professor in the School of Speech, Language, Hearing, and Occupational Sciences at the University of Montana
Dr. Hagan's Resources
Dr. Domke's Resources
Dr. Thomas-Tate's Resources
Dr. Collins' Resources
Books recommended:
"Beneath the Surface of Words" by Sue Hegland
"Teaching How the Written Word Works" by Pete Bowers
"Vocabulary & Morphology using Structured Word Inquiry" by Lisa Barnett &Katie Squires
Margie B. Gillis, Ed.D is a nationally recognized literacy expert and a Certified Academic Language Therapist who has been teaching children of all ages to read for over 40 years. She received her Doctorate of Education from the University of Louisville in Special Education. In 2009, Margie founded Literacy How, Inc. to provide professional development opportunities and coaching for teachers on how best to implement evidence-based reading practices in the classroom.
Welcome to the Literacy and Justice for All podcast produced by the Rollins Center for Language Literacy and its free online Cox Campus. Join Dr. Ryan Lee-James, our host and conversational partner, as we dig deep into literacy through conversation with research scientists, expert practitioners, caregivers, educators, policymakers, business leaders, statisticians, and everyone in between. Together, we will uncover illiteracy as a critical threat to the promise that every citizen has the opportunity to live a life of self-determination, a basic and civil human right.