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Lost in the Wilderness
Karl Stevens and Daniel Bogard
42 episodes
2 months ago
Every week Karl Stevens (the priest) and Daniel Bogard (the rabbi) engage in Chevruta study of scripture. We started with the Book of Exodus in 2017, and will be moving on the the Gospel of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles in 2018. Lost in the Wilderness is made possible by generous contributions from Christ Church Cathedral and the Diocese of Southern Ohio.

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Every week Karl Stevens (the priest) and Daniel Bogard (the rabbi) engage in Chevruta study of scripture. We started with the Book of Exodus in 2017, and will be moving on the the Gospel of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles in 2018. Lost in the Wilderness is made possible by generous contributions from Christ Church Cathedral and the Diocese of Southern Ohio.

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Episodes (20/42)
Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 41: Party Mitzvah at the End of Exodus
Daniel and Karl reach the end of their own personal Exodus by finishing off Chapter 40 and drinking champagne. Then they reflect on the journey and answer a listener question.

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7 years ago
57 minutes 46 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 40: The Blue Snail Edition
Daniel and Karl are joined by Hattie Koher, a Methodist youth pastor and old college friend of Daniel's for an episode that's all about the ephod. In addition to talking about priestly bling, we also get into a discussions of wealth and religion, the meaning of ordination, and whether its ethical to use blue snails for dye.

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7 years ago
56 minutes 43 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 39
Karl and Daniel are joined by Shira Berkowitz of Central Reform Congregation in Saint Louis for a discussion of feminism, justice work, and lots and lots of instructions on how to build the tabernacle!

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7 years ago
57 minutes 20 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 38
Karl and Daniel are joined by Cantor Joshua Finkel of Shir Hadesh Reconstructionist Community in Saint Louis. Which is a relief because, frankly, Ch. 37 of Exodus is more tedious repetition of what we've read before. So we spend about ten minutes reading it and the rest of time on the history of the different branches of Judaism (orthodox, conservative, reform, and reconstructionist) and the future of Christianity. Plus, both Daniel and Josh chant the text for us!

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7 years ago
49 minutes 1 second

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 37
The great Robert Alter describes Chapter 36 as the greatest example of extravagant repetition in the entire book of Exodus. That doesn't mean that it can't be fun! Karl and Daniel use this opportunity to talk about repetition in religious life, and about how a call to justice might work in accordance with a pacific spirituality that seeks to hold things lightly.

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7 years ago
37 minutes 58 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Exodus 35
Is Judaism a religion or a people? What does identity mean, and how many can we have and still be coherent? Is it better to be consumerist or materialist? And what lengths will Daniel go to in order to ensure a good night's sleep? Join us as we dive into all these questions and more in our discussion of Ch. 35 of Exodus!

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7 years ago
56 minutes 56 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 35: We're Back, and We Might Just Believe in the Same God
After a month long hiatus, we return to dig deep into chapter 34 of Exodus.  

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7 years ago
1 hour 3 minutes 27 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Program Announcement
We recorded a podcast last week, but then a terrible technical snafu took it away from us.  And I'll be gone next week, and Daniel will be moving the following week.  So we'll be on a brief hiatus until mid-June.  -Karl

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7 years ago
1 minute

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 34: Rambam-palooza
This week we finally take a deep dive into Daniel's favorite rabbi, the 12th c. Spanish philosopher Maimonides, also known as Rambam.  Which means that we get super philosophical, talking about God and nature and the limits of human knowledge.  Oh, and also about Moses and ch. 33 of Exodus.  Plus one really terrible butt joke (because we only like to pretend that we're smart).  

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7 years ago
1 hour 2 minutes 6 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 33: The Golden Calf!
At last, we have come to the much anticipated Ch. 32, when God sends Moses down the mountain to break up a wild party and, more importantly, stop the chosen people from worshipping idols.  Hot stuff!  And Daniel has provided four and a half pages of midrash to go with it!

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7 years ago
46 minutes 27 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 32: Waiting for the Next Jew
Exodus 31 is great for artists and crafts people, and great for people who just need a day of rest!  Karl and Daniel spend about thirty minutes talking about the first seventeen verses, and then thirty minutes talking about verse 18 alone!  That's one great verse.  Plus, Daniel tells the joke that gives our episode it's name.

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7 years ago
1 hour 2 minutes 29 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 31: One Year in Gehenna
Daniel and Karl are joined by Rabbi Miriam Terlinchamp as we delve into Ch. 30, learn that Gehenna isn't just a suburb of Columbus, reflect on giving and justice, and consider the ethics of counting people.

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7 years ago
52 minutes 45 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 30: Incense-ify the Ram!
Daniel and Karl go deep into the weeds of ordination rituals for the High Priest as they read Exodus 30.  Along the way, they throw in some thoughts about Jerusalem Syndrome, the sad life of Schmuel the Ephod Cleaner, and the religious call to assist in the completion of creation.

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7 years ago
56 minutes 19 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 29: Priestly Bling
Daniel and Karl are joined by Rabbi Daniel Vaisrub, and many things are revealed about Judaism that Karl never knew.  Such as the apocalyptic hope that the third temple will descend from on high and that the ephod might just look like the costume of a French princess.  

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7 years ago
58 minutes 13 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 28: Horns as Handlebars and the Nature of Sin
Ch. 27 of Exodus is all about the tabernacle (what a surprise, given that it's been the theme of the last few weeks).  But Karl and Daniel find a way to talk about sin, and the way that both Judaism and Christianity are reinterpreting the concept of sin in terms of modernism.

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7 years ago
53 minutes 50 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 27: The Ikea Manual from Mount Sinai
Daniel and Karl are joined by members of Saint Andrew's, Evanston as they discuss Ch. 26, a chapter mostly composed of instructions for building the tabernacle.  And yet somehow they manage to wander into discussions of unicorn creation myths and when to take a bathroom break in the middle of synagogue services.  Who says that cubits can't be fun!

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7 years ago
54 minutes 48 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 26: Almond Scented Light
Acolytes and Altar Guild members, rejoice!  We have now gotten to the part of Exodus that deals with liturgy, describing all of the wonderful implementa of the tabernacle with glittering adjectives (mostly because everything is gold plated).  Daniel and Karl let their inner liturgists off the leash and get so metaphysical that it's almost psychedelic.  

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7 years ago
58 minutes 40 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 25: Bring Cucumber Sandwiches to the Next Blood Sacrifice
Okay, it's a weird title, but we sure amused ourselves as we talked about Exodus 24, in which Moses and friends are somehow back at the foot of the mountain and about to go up it for the first time, even though Moses has been at the top of Mt. Sinai for the last four chapters.  You can see why we got a little wacky.  Enjoy!

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7 years ago
49 minutes 55 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 24: Live at the Cathedral
Daniel and Karl record live in front of an audience at Christ Church Cathedral in Cincinnati.  The audience was amazing in contributing to our chevruta Bible study of chapter 23.  We took questions and heard from a variety of readers as we went.  Enjoy!

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7 years ago
1 hour 11 minutes 58 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Episode 23: Power and Privilege Lead Us Into Responsibility, Not Freedom
There's a whole lotta law going on in Chapter 22 of Exodus, but it leads Daniel and Karl into discussions of King David and the Northern and Southern Kingdoms, the Babylonian Exile and, oh yeah, Exodus.  Join us!

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7 years ago
1 hour 3 minutes 59 seconds

Lost in the Wilderness
Every week Karl Stevens (the priest) and Daniel Bogard (the rabbi) engage in Chevruta study of scripture. We started with the Book of Exodus in 2017, and will be moving on the the Gospel of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles in 2018. Lost in the Wilderness is made possible by generous contributions from Christ Church Cathedral and the Diocese of Southern Ohio.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.