Andrew Scheps has been a hero of mine since I started mixing. He’s worked on everyone from Beyoncé to Metallica to Michael Jackson to The Red Hot Chili Peppers to Jay-Z to The Smashing Pumpkins to Green Day to Alanis Morissette to The Rolling Stones to several other legends. He’s nothing short of a genius. At music. At mixing. At technology. At philosophy.
So I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. If you want to hear an honest take about where music is at, how to break in, and what’s up with AI, Scheps is the guy to listen to.
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That compression topology. Think of the totality. The push and pull of the artistic and the technical. Pitch to formant and time. Absolutely worth it. Artifacts. A natural thing. It builds up. Like a flavor connection. Transitions between sections. Doing sonic changes. Raw emotions in a safe space. Behind delivering it to the speakers. A world that it lives in. Or several worlds that happen one after another. About serendipity. Find a reason for making. Make a decision. Try something. Learn stuff. By osmosis. Reacting to things. The emotion in a song. The sonics are cool. Actively listening. What it does. In that environment. It’s just balance. Getting as close as possible. Setting up a world. Feel passionate. Feel the way music does. Limiting sounds like something. Flexible and creative and multivariate. Just leave it. Zoom out. Through several different paths. Throughout a song. Into the same world. Assess the emotional. Internal dynamics. Some magic moments. That will happen. Whatever it is. A sort of hyperreality. Open for a while. Different audio going through. Heavier and heavier. Harmonic distortion. Unbelievably cool. All about the Ideas. It’s just moments. Play stuff. To feel. A viable path. Measurements in the renderer. 📏
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This isn’t the classic definition. This is James Jameson. It’s the groove. It’s the grounding. It’s the dance partner that holds it down. The glue. The bass!
But all counters… need a point: The vocal! How do we frame the melody? Then how do we extend it? Let’s talk.
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The harmonic grounder. Everywhere that exists. Adding syncopation. That balance. Able to accomplish. Its purpose its role. The precipice. Grounding and being the glue. Something really cool. 🧊
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A music career never, ever, ever goes in a straight line. It’s winding path, through studios, gigs, relationships, and day jobs.
Ashlee Chanelle has lived it and succeeded. She’s a Senior Enterprise Account Executive at Epidemic Sound and a longtime mix engineer and producer We talked about how licensing actually works in the real world, how to communicate like a pro in high-stakes environments, and how to keep balance with all the work.
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A wonderful approach. An intuitive sense of how to get there. Levels of granularity. Finding the excitement in it. The bounce. Because of ears. Along that jagged path. When it’s good it’s good. Breaths are a perfect thing. This nice balance. The throughline. Stick with it. Adapt the track. Like hybrid perspective. Learn from one another. A funny blurred line. As knobs. To create that pocket. The vocabulary. Learning how signal flow works. Feeling off of the energy. Observe and absorb. Emotional response to the sequence of frequencies. A fun ride. So exciting. An interest in the intersection. Auditory artifacts. Know what’s going on. Building to scale. Being there for the journey. An interest in the intersection. Where the magic actually lives. Able to speak that language. The view as well. So fun and so fascinating also. Find that opportunity. Lifestyle shifts. Tactile osmatic experience. Being around. Adapted over time. Trust ourselves and our ears. This organism itself. That common thread. It goes a long way. Bringing that home. Able to visualize. Very intentional. Sometimes opposite. Stay creative. Part of the conversation. Really cool. Being in the soup. 🍜
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Energy lacking? Vibes off? Chorus not "big" enough?
Start by subtracting. Even for a bar. The little things you don't say are their own kind of tension. Breathe for a moment.
Then scream!
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Hooked and interested. Like a tapestry. In the arrangement. Foreground background. The character of the frequencies. Cool information. Subdivisions. Have fun with it. Add energy. Best and most striking levers. Help the listener. Into a microphone. Enjoyable thing for the audience. Voicings. The emotional. In key moments. Essential notes. Frenetic sense. Harmonic distortion. Little pockets. The harmonic series. The journey. Momentum. Stuff naturally happens. Addition through subtraction. Moments of pause. To have contrast. Amplified. 🔌
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Fresh off of an NPR Tiny Desk concert, Rani shares her undeniable love of music in this episode. Her belief in herself, her band, and the power of hard work was truly infectious. No matter what you’re doing, in music or outside of music, Rani’s vibe is guaranteed to leave you more inspired, energized, and ready to take on the odds.
Rani Adi is a Brooklyn-based artist, multi-instrumentalist, singer, producer, and content creator whose work merges live musicianship with modern production. She’s the co-founder and bassist of the band postergirl, which she started just over a year ago, and has performed with artists including PinkPantheress on Tiny Desk and Dove Cameron on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon. Rani is currently producing both her debut solo album and postergirl’s debut record, continuing to bridge the worlds of performance, production, and storytelling, crafting music that feels both nostalgic and forward-thinking.
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Entering this territory. The act of creating. Experimentation. The openness. Envision. Immediately in flow state. What can happen. A very fusion. Into sonic form. At the forefront. To keep steady. Existing. Doing in the moment. Cosmic alignment. Into the session. Antenna up. A whole ether. Every season. Intertwined. An expansive way of creating art. Capable. Different skillsets. Iterations. Learning the intention. Curious. Preparation too. A way to communicate. So encouraging. Feel inspired to practice. To shine. Really listen. Trust the process. Building something. A good balance. Dare to believe and try. Conducive. To channel those players. Pocket. Feels so natural. Find some people. Find that balance. The keystone for the entire arrangement. Approaching the notes. Unrelenting vision and actually doing stuff. How something sounds. North Star. Articulation. Vibing people. Understand the vocabulary. Intentional. Internalize the decisions. Crafting a sound. How different records feel. The A-Z. 📒
Edited by Rebecca Sansom
Set Design by Max Horwich
Podcast Produced by Beformer
Music products are some of the most innovative and frustrating tools in any industry. Let's peel back the veil a bit into the history of music software, piracy, and how old-school tech is holding itself back.
There's a reason why Ableton is the DAW (music production software) of choice for younger people! (It's the iLok!)
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Take it where you go. An opportunity. Making things. The coolest stuff. Floating around. Part of the interesting weirdness. Deeper features. In vogue. Stories and vignettes. Beloved. Trying stuff. Across the board. 🏁
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My friend texted me, "Do you believe that specific chords of the same type (eg C Major vs G Major) evoke different emotions or feelings? That are consistent and distinct?"
And I think it pointed at something really profound: Is music relational (change the key, keep the vibe) or absolute (each key has its own vibe).
I think both. Let me explain...
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The personification of these keys. The order of the notes. Resonating. That essential nature. Radiant. Flavor. Fundamentally. The instruments themselves. The relationship between the notes. Pythagorean way. The center of gravity. Deeply. Time and place. Cultural. A certain headspace. The songness. Reinforced. Intention. Motion. Abstractions. What the tune is. Things weigh in. Ratio. Relationality. Inversions. Timbre. The genre experience. An interesting exercise. 👟
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What really goes into putting on a show? And… how’s tour number 100 different than #1 (hint: fast food). Really, being on the road is an endurance sport, and Cal Kevany has the stories to tell!
From his prolific TikTok channel to a show near you, enjoy this convo with this great guitarist!
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Dedication and passion. Get the energy up. Make these connections. Get the energy up. Have a good idea. Healthy snacks. Good moments. It’s a beautiful thing. Build off that momentum. Over and over again. Palatable package. Connecting those dots. All through something. Feel so supported. Learning a shared language together. Get connected. A good technique. Get to different heights. Catching a special wavelength. Channel that in. A block of time. It gets easier. It can be pretty deep. Like an athletic endurance sport. Additional benefits. Layers together. Be very satisfying. That routine. Back on track. Recognize the cause and effect. Loop in. Begin again. Picking spots. Get there. Feel good. Picking the moments. The right kind of vibe. In the bag. Power creative juices. Fun to make. Think about finishing things. Help propel that as well. So fun. Hear those chords. Interesting and engaging. A depth. Switch to the bridge. Music people. Uplifting each other. Organize in those blocks. Learning about the form. Tone or feeling. Keep that happening. Supporting every song. Strategies. Super excited to talk about. The song structure and chords. The reality of the logistics. Finish songs. Show that flash. Out there. Mentally good. Riding the sine wave. A series of implied probabilities or directions. Chords movements. Call and response. One day. Make decisions. Figure that out. Focuses on listening to each other. To think about. A nice blend. Super balanced. Diatonic. A mental and visual roadmap. Participation. As the player. Extensions and interesting chords. Oh definitely. ✅
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Podcast Produced by Beformer
Music, creativity, life. All an endurance sport. Just like running, I think the key is tricking yourself sometimes. And enjoying the uphill as much as the down.
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On the frontier of capability. Cultivating energy and spirit. Maintaining consistency and maintaining output. Align. Start filling in the blanks. Dedicated and purposeful moments. To finish. Emotional and inspirational. Above and beyond. Lunchpail mentality. Wind in sails. ⛵
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This one goes to eleven… NO this one goes to 31! Levi’s all-in on expanding our musical palette. We talked about what colors and emotions are available in microtonality, how to get into the wild world, and the frontiers of music theory. Sometimes it feels like everything in music has been “figured out.” Levi’s here to tell us that couldn’t be further from the truth!
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Where it mostly all started. The peaks and the valleys. The life force. Opening doors. Heliocentricity. Coalesce. Comfortable enough. Embed the effect. A lot of beauty in doing that. Stereo picture placement. Reinforcing this idea. Actual practice. Treat the shimmer tone. Some very interesting intonation. A dash of cayenne. A weird sensation. A good blend. Different aspects. Through acoustic synthesis. Like a sonic photograph. Tactile experience. A really interesting mirror. Symmetry. Duplicating the signal. Genuinely connected. Dove into the bread and butter. That weird bag. Formant shifting. Wonderful and different. Everything kind of influences everything. At the continuum. The tributaries of creativity. Over the mountain. Through pitch. Justly intonated. The harmony of the spheres. Dig deep. The reason. In between the spaces. New tools. To innovate further. Load in microtonal tunings. Time and place. In the vast landscape. Fully enmeshed things. A lot closer together. Microtonailty. Something that’s real. Kind of like a diatonic approach. Such a good analog. Downstream. From the music theory lens. A bundle of instruments. More notes. Pitch shifted. New flavors. Get over that hump. In terms of frequencies. The math is elegant. A wonderful thing. About the harmonic series. The embodied self. Harmonic ratios. Shimmer chords. This really cool iconic sound. Perfectly reasonable. To the timbre of a given instrument. A cool project. Really beautiful. Pleasing sounds. Fluid. Play a series of notes. Play effectively. The wolf interval. Ear math. Utility. Map it to musical parameters. 🌌
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Podcast Produced by Beformer
Tap your foot? Whistle? Hum a tune?
I think you count too. Musician isn't a some high-and-mighty state. It's just being human.
I think by segmenting so much we all miss out. Musicians do best when we get community input (just look at New Orleans!) -- not just academic or commercialized competition.
It's not bad to hustle. But it's nice to have a mix of voices. Some going all-in. Some expressing the depths of the soul with no expectation of reward.
But even bigger than that, the coolest thing is watching people decide to play at whatever level. Even cooler: Watching them decide to write. I hope you do. It's never too late. And if you're a pro, it's good for the soul to make some random stuff that's not for a royalty.
Let's wax musical, people!
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Huddle around. The tone poem. Evocative and interesting. Fundamental. Timbre. Dynamics. Orders sound. Through the wind. Think and feel. A collection of artifacts. Distilling that. Infinite. Continuous. The acrobatics. Structuring sound. Enjoy something. Taste. That good. Mess with that. Just saying. Open to the idea. A vector to keep that going. The larger kinda meta-conversation of genre. What a musician actually is. Add elements throughout time. In time. The key element. Refinement. An exploration of sound. An extension of frequency. ⏰
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What makes a Beatles chord progression work? Why does that Stevie Wonder song sound the way it does? Music theorist and composer Dr. Guy Shkolnik joins the pod to breaks down all that good stuff and more: harmony, counterpoint, composition across all genres (even how Japanese music is different!!).
With a PhD in music theory and a social media following built from deep-dive breakdowns (and years of university teaching under his belt including international Berklee College of Music associated harmony, counterpoint, and ear training classes), Guy knows how to make it “click.” Let’s dive deep in, follow the white rabbit, and find out why music works. (And why we love it!)
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Play with the words. The gravity of harmony, The fundamentals. Gives direction. The environment is inviting. Those building blocks. Both sides of the mirror. Approachable. In tandem. That intrigue. The essence. Musical sense. What the groove is. How it feels. The notes that are dancing around. Full circle on these things. The mechanics of music. The beautiful possibilities. Melody and harmony came together. All the different tones. As splashes of color. Active notes. New techniques. Independent voices. Keep things open. Telling a story. Chorales. About communication. A cool way to differentiate. That dash of elegance. Different textures of the same thing. By learning both. Tendencies. To do the translation. Rotating around. Chromatic. Simplify stuff. Powerful notes. The whole thing. Connect with it. Showing the good. A fun exercise. The beautiful mix of new, weird, and familiar at the same time. Lightbulb moments. Draws from everything. New colors. A gift. Helping fellow musicians. Harmonic rhythm. The natural note. See through the details. 🔎
Edited by Rebecca Sansom
Set Design by Max Horwich
Podcast Produced by Beformer
Want a better mix 2? Keep your mix engineer creative and proactive. Give them questions rather than answers.
In this pod, I cover how creative communication can empower your collaborators rather than box them in. Turn people into experts instead of tools, and watch how your network can perform! (And love working with you!)
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Passion and energy. Open up new doors. Unlocking brains. From one phase to the next. Creative notes. The challenge is always evolving. For later on in the phases. Leave a little bit of room. Really enjoyable. Wax poetically. Thinking of solutions. The pokiness. A positive flywheel. Beings of infinite creativity. Carve out some more space. Leave room for interpretation. Inverted. That wisdom. Making sense of some of the chaos. Being the CEO of your art. Alter the state of the listener. Asking great questions. Practically use that. Impassioned. In both directions. Keeps it fresh. 🥝
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Some musicians do better with chaos. Others under deadlines and with teams. Tristan Clopet is a rare pro who’s done both, and because of it knows the value of working towards a greater goal with a big team (and bigger pressure).
Tristan’s prolific work on film and TV scores gives him a deep insight into the nature of that side of the industry (and how different it is from his touring days supporting X Ambassadors, Billy Bragg, Tove Lo, Glen Hansard, and The Weeknd). It’s a collaborative, deadline-oriented, large effort, with hundreds of creatives contributing to the final work. He shares how inspiring that journey is, and how knowing the boundaries can unlock even more creativity. I loved his story about scoring to Martin Freeman’s solo acting in a car. (Martin Freeman happens to be one of my favorite actors.)
His credits include:
Sony Pictures Television’s StartUp, created by Ben Ketai and starring Martin Freeman, Ron Perlman, Adam Brody, Mira Sorvino, and Edi Gathegi. In 2020, Netflix licensed all three seasons and it quickly became the streamer’s #1 acquired series around the world.
The Universal Studios feature film River Wild, for which he earned an HMMA nomination.
The Infiltrator, starring Bryan Cranston, City of Lies, starring Johnny Depp and Forest Whitaker, Sundance Film Festival winner Crown Heights, starring LaKeith Stanfield, AMC’s Pantheon, with Brandon Roberts, Marco Beltrami, and Buck Sanders, and CBS’s military procedural The Code.
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Put it into words. Putting those things together. Keep doing it. That progression. That magic energy. It’s a journey. A key to unlock the door. Creative parameters that do unlock other things. Just being in the room. Anchor points. Accepting imperfection. Discern so much emotion. Either direction’s profound. A nebulous cloud that shifts and moves. A rewarding effect. A wonderful exploration. This weird appetite for going further. Through that journey. The cut has a rhythm. A conversation of contradictions. The push and pull. Hilarious. Magnetizes back to. An apt question. Flowing from A to B, It’s timbre thing. A function for this music. A mix of craft and art. Room to play with. An array of options. Conveying goals. 🎬
Edited by Rebecca Sansom
Set Design by Max Horwich
Podcast Produced by Beformer
Music is more athletic than you may think! I just watched on of my favorite drummers, Nate Smith, and he was like Bruce Lee up there, flowing like water.
Proper technique can save musicians from injury, make them play faster, and let them stay on the road for longer. It’s one of the best ways to break through the intermediate wall, but it’s not talked about enough… so I talked about it!
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Dynamic shifts and turns. Very much serving the song. Creative application of techniques. All of that to say. Draw the through-line. Within the rhythm. In interesting ways. Circumvent those limits. Add up to emotion. Progress the instrument itself. About articulation. Keep doing. Opens some doors and opens some minds. The way to shake. The arc of the piece. Unlocked another level. 🔓
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…and what if it could help us invent new instruments?
In this pod, I talk about how musicians can use “vibe coding” tools like Cursor (but how learning a little coding can go a long way)! I think there’s something here. I think it’s about to get a lot easier. And I invite you to try (and fail) with me. We might be able to make something truly new once again.
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Fresh ears. Fascinating and fun. Little tendrils. Set up to be creative. Start to bubble up. Opening minds. Interesting and intriguing and powerful. For the practical use of the modern musician. Really wonderful. What the song wants to be. A good example of context. Something far cooler. The digital to analog conversation. Through movement. Paddle out. 🏓
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As A&R at Safari Pedals, Abi brings a unique guitar pedal-driven approach to production. From making coffee disappear (she’s a professional magician!) to helping artists transform gut feelings into honest, soulful records, she shares her philosophy on trust, vibe, and the magic that happens when you strip away pretense. Whether working remotely or popping up in cities around the world for in-person sessions, Abi is out there building genuine connections and crafting records with the artist at the center of the frame. Plus, we dive into her work hosting The Safari Pedals Show and how guitar pedals became her secret weapon in the studio.
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From the jump. Pumped into this thing. Cool hanging spot. Time is a weird resource. Every which way. Just do the thing. Propel better. A unicorn that’s fallen out of outer space. Make something different. Seeds planted. Gotta figure it out. In a timely fashion. Lots of different paints. To start doing. Understand aesthetically. Open to ideas. The surrounding skills. Think modular. A healthy signal. Sonic fingerprint. Kinda found its groove. Ultimate vibe curators. Fluffy and wonderful. All camps are welcome. For fun ideas. Feel passionate. Physical to sound reaction. Get some crazy sounds. In a different way. Betters creative output. A whole new level of respect. Listenable. So much magic. This all-encompassing thing. Now is the time. Invent a future. Fill up cups. Really excited. In some weird way. Enjoying going all in. Make it happen. The technical. A dash of chaos. Knowing how to make both work. Embracing what is. Go through the journey. 🥾
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Would a builder build a house without a hammer? A tattooer do a tattoo without a needle? Would a politician act without a businessman? Of course not!
Every job has the tools that the pro needs to succeed. Music theory is one of ours. Neglect at your own peril. Use the right tools to build cool stuff! Ignore them when you don't need them! (But 80% of the time, you'll need them! Especially if you want to do this every day.)
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Transmit ideas. Different shapes on top of the foundations. Build new shapes. A creative compulsion. Use the putty. Learn the language by doing. By knowing that. Based around tension and resolution. Sound good under that note. Tendencies. New nouns. In the most elegant and satisfying way. 📚
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Playing drums at Red Rocks or the O2 or the Greek are dreams made reality for Harry Terrell. As producer and multi-instrumentalist, he brings perspective to the drum kit, electronics to the acoustic, and vibe to the studio. In this pod, Harry shares some of his favorite techniques for getting killer drum sounds, navigating music theory, and what it means to be a modern musician. The drums are alive and well!
Chef Harry T is a drummer/producer/multi-instrumentalist/songwriter/chef/tall guy based in the Los Angeles area. He likes to do lots of stuff, including play for Still Woozy, make silly funk jams, write serious love songs about personal development and feelings, push the boundaries of sandwich possibilities, learn new Spanish vocabulary, and stretch out his sore little legs. He also REALLY likes to make music with his best bud Eli Goss, who will join us in the interview at some point, in their best-friendship-band of over 10 years called The Breathing Effect, which basically makes complex-yet-familiar bangers with influences ranging from ambient noise music to 70s Japanese city pop and yacht rock to 2000s indie rock and softcore songwriters.
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Feel the momentum. Satisfying to like understand. In these ways that create new things. It’s this very symbiotic relationship. Like foundations of being. Kinda shape. So tactile. Brings the energy. Palpable. So nice to know. Like gravity and also like seasonings. Just kinda go for it. The show must go on, the show must go on. A deeper way of relating to art and humans and just the ways things are connected. Feel like the overtones are really ringing out. Also pushing boundaries. The chemical makeup of the music itself. Kinda newer golden age of recording almost. Sources of inspiration. Is like of the time. That dramatic surprise. Everything’s a new adventure. This visceral reaction thing. Totally scalable. Not waiting around. Kinda fascinating to just see. Sorta new like methodologies. At the source. Down the line. Like using audio. The musical vibe out there in the ethos. As far as like tone goes and stuff. In certain settings. Like a metric modulation. Such a pleasure. This parasympathetic reactive quality. Within the broader production. First things first. Be doing stuff. Finish stuff. To keep the momentum going. Play into the effects. Sounds vibey. A various array. Have the ears. So many people do so many things. Sense of like space. It’s just a beautiful thing. Pretty excellent. To facilitate the connection between people. A whole vast new room of stuff to explore. Like peeling back the secrets of the universe. 🥯
Edited by Rebecca Sansom
Set Design by Max Horwich
Podcast Produced by Beformer
Welcome everyone to the astronaut era. Let the music video arms race begin!
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The technology was there. Make a spectacle. A fusion of all entertainment. Paradigm shift. Broadcast and medium based transitions. Just ride out the waves. Trending on this direction. Cultural force. All that fed back. Platform defining. It already kinda is. Incredible timing for that song. In terms of transmission. 📺
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