The podcast for people who want financial freedom, without giving up their coffee.
That means it's time to make the money world make cents. Join Frances Cook, best-selling author and award-winning journalist, to talk about the proven ways to invest your way to financial independence, buy your first home, or just get your spending under control.
Every Monday we have the week's feature interview, with someone who's done something interesting with their money. From paying off a mountain of debt, or investing for financial independence, or starting a new business, these are the ordinary people making the extraordinary possible.
On Thursday we have Ask the Experts, where industry insiders answer your questions on the money world. From earning more in your career, to investing, or sticking to a budget, they'll help make money simple.
Every now and then you'll get a bonus episode too, but the fun of those is that you never know when they're coming!
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The podcast for people who want financial freedom, without giving up their coffee.
That means it's time to make the money world make cents. Join Frances Cook, best-selling author and award-winning journalist, to talk about the proven ways to invest your way to financial independence, buy your first home, or just get your spending under control.
Every Monday we have the week's feature interview, with someone who's done something interesting with their money. From paying off a mountain of debt, or investing for financial independence, or starting a new business, these are the ordinary people making the extraordinary possible.
On Thursday we have Ask the Experts, where industry insiders answer your questions on the money world. From earning more in your career, to investing, or sticking to a budget, they'll help make money simple.
Every now and then you'll get a bonus episode too, but the fun of those is that you never know when they're coming!
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A simple $20 tweak can dramatically cut down the life of your mortgage, so now it’s time to talk about the strategy I used to shave eight years off mine.
With just a small repayment, years disappeared. So here’s how, and why, it works.
I’ve used my experience as a financial journalist to change my money, so get an inside look at my finances, then why extra repayments are so powerful in the early years of a home loan, how interest is actually structured, and the practical ways you can use that to get mortgage-free faster to make it work for you.
Time to talk about the main mortgage repayment strategies available in New Zealand, and how to figure out which one works for your lifestyle and spending habits.
Plus: how to automate extra payments, how to use falling interest rates to your advantage, why fortnightly repayments sneak in an extra payment each year, and when to throw windfalls at the loan for maximum impact.
If you’re trying to get ahead on your mortgage without sacrificing your entire life to it, this episode gives you the simple tactics that make the biggest difference.
Tune in for a realistic, NZ-specific breakdown of what actually works, and how small changes can save you years.
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This podcast was filmed and produced by Fanaticals
Video editing & content production by Lana Byrne
Audio engineering by Tash Chittock
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Cash funds, bonds, index funds, shares… what’s the difference, and how do you figure out which mix is right for you?
If you want to invest but have felt confused by the options, this is the live session for you.
In this live edition of the Making Cents podcast, Frances Cook is joined by some of New Zealand’s top investing experts to break down simple, smart sharemarket strategies to help you get your money ready for 2026.
We cover:
The real differences between cash funds, bonds, and shares
How to figure out what type of investment suits your goals
What to look for (and avoid) when comparing funds
How to see what’s actually inside your investments
Why fees matter more than you think, and how to check yours
It’s everything you need to start investing with confidence, no spreadsheets, no jargon, just smart strategies that actually work.
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You’ve worked your whole life to pay off the mortgage. The house is finally yours. But somehow, the money worries haven’t gone away.
In this Making Cents mailbag episode, a listener in their 70s writes in after becoming mortgage-free, yet still feeling anxious every time they spend a dollar.
Living on the pension with little savings, they want to enjoy retirement but are scared of running out of money.
Their children think a reverse mortgage could be the answer, but will unlocking home equity today destroy their inheritance tomorrow?
Frances Cook talks to Will White, General Manager of Retail & Reverse Mortgages at Heartland Bank, about how modern reverse mortgages in New Zealand actually work, what protections exist, and how to decide whether using your home equity makes sense.
They cover the emotional side too, including the guilt many retirees feel about spending their own money, and how to find balance between financial security and quality of life.
If you’ve ever wondered how to free up cash in retirement, whether a reverse mortgage is safe, or how to enjoy your hard-earned home without risking the kids’ inheritance, this episode breaks it all down.
If you have a letter you’d like us to answer, please send it through to ask@francescook.co.nz and you might feature on our next episode!
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Video editing & content production by Lana Byrne
Audio engineering by Tash Chittock
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Supermarket total making your stomach drop? You’re not imagining it, food prices have become one of the biggest pain points of the cost-of-living crisis.
In this episode of Making Cents, financial journalist Frances Cook sits down with chef Alice Taylor, creator of the Cheap and Realistic Eats Cookbook (available at https://www.alicetayloreats.com) to talk about how to eat well without overspending.
From $1.50 loaves of bread and 20 cent noodles, to clever ingredient swaps that make baking cheaper and better, Alice shares practical, tested ways to feed a family for less.
She explains how to:
This is real-world advice for anyone trying to stretch a grocery budget without sacrificing flavour or enjoyment.
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Create a savings buffer without that nagging feeling of deprivation.
Frances Cook joins the TVNZ Breakfast team to talk about the savings tips that help you build a better money life, without cutting everything fun.
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A $100,000 gift should feel like freedom, so why does it come with so much pressure?
In this Making Cents mailbag episode, a listener writes in after being gifted $100K from family.
They’ve got a big mortgage, no savings, and a long wish-list that includes home repairs, maternity leave, and some breathing room in the budget.
The question: how do you use a windfall like this without wasting it?
Frances Cook talks to Katie Wesney, head strategic coach at EnableMe, about how to turn a one-off gift into long-term financial security.
They unpack how to prioritise between paying down the mortgage, building an emergency fund, and improving your home, plus smart ways to use a revolving credit account to keep flexibility while cutting interest.
If you’ve ever wondered what to do after receiving a cash gift, inheritance, or bonus, this episode will show you how to make every dollar count, avoid the “easy come, easy go” trap, and set yourself up for the future.
If you have a letter you’d like us to answer, send it through to ask@francescook.co.nz and you might feature on our next episode!
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This podcast was filmed and produced by Fanaticals
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Audio engineering by Tash Chittock
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One of the biggest tools you’ve got for creating change is already in your pocket - your KiwiSaver.
It quietly funds companies, industries, and ideas every single day. And like it or not, where that money goes can be more powerful than voting or any $5 consumer boycott.
The problem? Most of us have no idea what we’re actually investing in.
Weapons investing is up 40 per cent. Fossil fuels are on the rise. And some of the world’s biggest corporations are still getting a slice of your retirement savings.
In this episode, financial journalist Frances Cook talks to Barry Coates from Mindful Money about how to find out exactly where your KiwiSaver cash is going, and how to shift it somewhere better.
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It’s easier than you think, it doesn’t hurt your returns, and it could be your most powerful vote yet.
Because you really can get rich without selling your soul.
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Fast Money with Jim Mora on Sunday Morning with RNZ. Does the 0.01% rule help us spend in a smarter way? And if you really hate maths, does the 24-hour rule, the cost per use rule, or the fun budget work better?
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What if the smartest way to get into property investing isn’t a house at all?
That’s the question in this week’s Making Cents mailbag, from a listener who wants to invest but feels locked out of the residential market.
With house prices still sky-high in many areas, this listener asks if commercial property could be the secret path to becoming an investor, or if it’s just a riskier bet in disguise.
Frances Cook talks to Vanessa Williams from http://Realestate.co.nz about what first-time investors need to know before diving into commercial property.
They break down how the commercial property market compares to residential, what really drives returns and risk, and why things like tenant quality, lease length, and economic trends matter far more than location or school zones.
This episode shows you how commercial property investing works in New Zealand, what it costs to get started, and whether it could actually be your next move.
If you have a letter you’d like us to answer, send it through to ask@francescook.co.nz and you might feature on our next episode!
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When Ecoya CEO Claire Barnes was 23, she lost $100,000 of her dad’s life insurance money on a failed business. The experience left her with a fear of failure so strong it followed her for nearly two decades, even as she rose to lead one of New Zealand’s most successful lifestyle brands.
In this episode of Making Cents, Frances Cook talks to Claire about what it takes to rebuild after financial loss, how to turn failure into a learning curve, and why she now believes fear is proof you’re on the right path.
Claire shares the hard-won lessons behind her career; from driving boxes of candles around the country, to running Ecoya, and now launching Bowie, an at-home microneedling and skincare startup she funded after selling her family home.
This conversation covers:
Even after a $100k setback, you can still build back stronger.
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If you're looking to earn more money on the side, here's the guide to doing it more successfully.
Frances Cook joins the TVNZ Breakfast team to explain how to find a good side hustle, and do it without tanking your finances.
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On paper, today’s listener has it made. Two multimillion-dollar homes, no mortgage, and investments on the side.
But with private-school fees, high living costs, and no full-time second income, the numbers don’t add up.
Their savings are shrinking fast, and the stress is rising even faster.
In this week’s Ask the Experts, Frances Cook and EnableMe’s head strategic coach Katie Wesney unpack what really causes wealth to feel fragile, even when you’re technically “doing well.”
They dig into why cash flow, not just net worth, determines your financial stability, and how to fix a lifestyle that’s quietly burning through your safety net.
From whether to sell shares or take out a mortgage again, to tough calls around private school fees and property priorities, this episode gets real about trade-offs, structure, and sustainability.
If you’ve ever wondered how people with big assets still end up broke on paper, or you’re feeling the pinch of a high-cost lifestyle yourself, this one’s essential listening.
If you have a letter you’d like us to answer, please send it through to ask@francescook.co.nz and you might feature on our next episode!
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You sent in a flood of money questions, and I’m ready to answer them all.
In this Ask Me Anything episode, I’m going unfiltered to talk through the money decisions you’re most curious about, including:
Perfect for anyone juggling mortgages, investments, or just trying to make smarter everyday money moves.
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If you feel like you’re doing it tough, you’re far from alone. The New Zealand economy has been struggling, and regular New Zealanders are feeling the pinch.
Business confidence is down, unemployment is up, and core cost-of-living measures such as food and power prices don’t look good.
Interest rates are now falling, but house prices are staying flat.
So is there hope for an economic comeback, or is there the possibility of a deeper crash?
Time to bring in the experts, with:
They’re ready to break down what’s actually going on, and what you need to know to protect your money, and ride out the storm.
We’ll debate:
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How much should you actually have in savings to feel safe?
In this week’s Ask the Experts, it’s a listener letter from someone worried about layoffs and wondering whether they’ve saved enough - or maybe even too much.
Heartland Bank’s Will White joins the show to unpack what a real emergency fund looks like in 2025.
How many months of expenses should you really have tucked away? What happens if you over-save and leave too much cash sitting idle instead of investing it? And where’s the best place to keep your buffer; a high-interest account, term deposit, or offset mortgage?
If you’ve ever paused your investing to “build up the savings” or felt unsure what enough really means, this episode will give you a clear, practical framework to find your financial safety zone.
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What if financial freedom didn’t take a lifetime, but just 11 years?
Ruth Henderson,also known as The Happy Saver, proves it’s possible.
She’s never been on a huge salary, didn’t get an inheritance, and never flipped property.
Instead, through smart saving, simple investing into the sharemarket, and relentless consistency, they built enough wealth to become work-optional in just over a decade.
And Ruth’s ready to share exactly how they did it.
In this episode, we cover:
If you’ve ever wondered how ordinary New Zealanders can retire early (or just get financially free, faster) this episode is your blueprint.
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Your bank balance might be looking rough, but don’t panic.
Frances Cook joins the TVNZ Breakfast team to explain why it’s normal for your money to ebb and flow, why “perfect balance” is a myth, and how to stay on track through the messy seasons of life and money.
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New Zealand is in the middle of a $1 trillion inheritance wave, and most families are walking into it completely unprepared.
As Baby Boomers move into their 70s and 80s, we’re experiencing the biggest intergenerational wealth transfer in the country’s history. But the money isn’t the problem, it’s the silence.
In this episode of Making Cents, financial journalist Frances Cook is joined by Katie Wesney from EnableMe to break down the inheritance conversations Kiwis aren’t having, and the painful consequences when families avoid them.
The truth is that most New Zealand families have no plan for what happens when assets are passed on.
Whether the estate is large or small, failing to talk about money, wills, and expectations can lead to legal mess, financial loss, and long-term family rifts.
We explore:
If you want to protect your family and your finances, this episode is your must-listen guide to having the inheritance conversation before it’s too late.
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What if the 9-5 is over?
The idea of a steady job and one career path for life is becoming rarer, and maybe even unrealistic.
In this episode of Making Cents, Frances Cook talks to Hannah Koumakis about what it actually looks like when you build a career across acting, business, content, and community, all at once.
What happens when you abandon the “one job for life” model, and instead create opportunities in the new world of work, where you often need multiple streams of income to get ahead, and where your financial systems need to be even sharper to hold it all together?
In this episode we talk about:
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The Reserve Bank has slashed the Official Cash Rate, so what does that mean for how bad the economy is, and what is coming next?
Frances Cook talks to the TVNZ Breakfast team about what you need to know for your mortgage, your job, and the overall economy.
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