Neil and Eric break down why high agency is becoming more valuable than raw intelligence in the age of AI. They discuss Andre Karpathy’s views, Klarna’s AI experiment, why speed and execution now beat perfection, and how build versus buy decisions are changing. The conversation covers AI-driven productivity, the future of agencies, founder-led growth, and why adapting early is critical for entrepreneurs, marketers, and operators heading into 2026 and beyond. Key Takeaways: High agency beats intelligence in an AI-driven world Speed and execution matter more than perfection AI is reshaping agencies, startups, and big companies Chapters: (00:00) Agency vs intelligence explained (00:30) Why high agency wins with AI (01:12) Klarna, Karpathy, and AI impact (03:00) End of large organizations? (04:10) Build vs buy debate (05:46) Speed, execution, and founders (07:58) AI tools and productivity gains (10:30) AI, GDP growth, and markets (13:05) Why 2026 looks bullish

In this episode, hosts Neil and Eric break down how operator creators should price influencer deals, why most founders undercharge, and when sponsorships hurt long term business growth. They share real pricing frameworks, opportunity cost thinking, and why chasing views, creators, or bad sponsors can distract from building durable companies. The conversation also covers creator trust, AI fluency, data literacy, and why focusing on surface level metrics leads businesses in the wrong direction. Key Takeaways • Operator creators should price per post, not per view • Sponsorships can destroy focus and audience trust • Data fluency beats vanity metrics every time Chapters (00:00) Operator creator pricing (02:15) Opportunity cost of sponsorships (04:30) When to say no to deals (06:55) Trust, brands, and audience loss (10:28) Bad creator advice exposed (15:46) Content vs real business growth (18:33) AI fluency and teams (22:10) Data over vanity metrics

For fast, affordable business insurance as low as $29/mo, go to http://nextinsurance.com/ms In this episode, Neil and Eric break down why running a company feels like a sandwich every day, from CEO pressure and people problems to impostor syndrome and nonstop decision making. They compare founder life versus operator life, explain why investing in yourself and your team beats risky financial plays, and discuss why talent hubs like California still matter. The conversation wraps with citizen journalism, newsjacking, and how one viral story proves attention can be earned without massive budgets. Key Takeaways • Running a company means absorbing pressure daily • The best investments are yourself and your people • Long-term focus beats fast money every time Chapters (00:00) CEO pressure sandwich (01:02) Founder vs CEO reality (02:15) Price of great work (05:02) California talent debate (07:12) Investing in yourself (10:28) Laser focus for 10 years (14:00) Citizen journalism rise (19:06) Newsjacking lessons

Why are big companies not hiring in 2026? In this episode, hosts Neil and Eric break down hiring freezes at major companies, rising caution among CEOs, and why AI efficiency is replacing headcount. They discuss data from large employers, economic uncertainty, interest rates, and how leaders are planning for 2026 hiring. The conversation also covers management styles, leadership, and why people remain the best long-term investment despite automation. A must-listen for founders, executives, and anyone watching the job market in 2026. Key Takeaways • Why big companies are freezing hiring in 2026 • How AI is replacing headcount, not growth • What leaders should do before hiring again Chapters (00:00) Why companies not hiring 2026 (01:33) Big tech hiring freezes (03:35) Interest rates and hiring outlook (06:54) AI efficiency vs people (08:56) Leadership and management styles (12:44) Direct feedback and firing fast (17:21) Hiring strategy for 2026

Neil and Eric break down the Threads vs X mindset gap, why “victim mentality” kills progress, and how focusing on one craft can beat trying to be well-rounded. They debate early specialization vs variety using a peak-performance study, then shift into recruiting: retention conversations, paid working-case assignments, reference checks, and why talent drives marketing results. They also touch on holiday expectations in sales roles and discuss how Diddy built a massive brand reach and why power demands responsibility. Key takeaways: -Stop blaming, start building. -Master one craft, then compound. -Hire with paid working cases. Chapters: (00.00) Threads vs X mindset gap (00.26) Victim mentality vs self-made (02.03) Focus one craft to win (03.06) Specialization vs well-rounded debate (04.24) Peak performance study breakdown (07.00) Optimize for financial success (10.48) Recruiting and retention principles (13.36) Paid working-case hiring test (18.42) Reference checks reveal judgment (18.45) Holiday work and sales reality (20.35) Diddy branding power and responsibility (23.42) Happy holidays and 2026 wishes

Google Gemini’s breakout in 2025 gets pinned on “Nano Banana,” Google’s fast image generation and editing push that coincided with Gemini MAUs jumping from 350M to 650M by October, plus momentum from NotebookLM upgrades and aggressive social distribution. Neil and Eric debate why free, bundled AI (Search AI Overviews, Chromebooks, Android) can outscale paid ChatGPT for students and everyday users, then zoom out into AI’s new marketing playbook for demand gen, ABM, and always-on agents, plus a reality check on VC data and “SEO is dead” takes. Key takeaways: -Nano Banana made Gemini feel viral and usable. -Free distribution beats “better” features for scale. -AI is rewriting B2B demand gen workflows. Chapters: (00:00) What saved Google Gemini (00:12) Nano Banana drives MAU growth (01:10) AI Overviews massive reach (01:43) Students choose free Gemini (05:39) Chatbot traffic share shifts (08:34) AI demand gen playbook (10:38) Skepticism on VC datasets (16:42) Luck favors consistent grind (20:50) Holiday send-off for 2026

Neil and Eric break down Hamilton Helmer’s 7 Powers framework for building a durable competitive business: branding, process power, switching costs, scale economies, cornered resources, network economies, and counter positioning. They apply these strategy concepts to agencies, then shift to AI moats and vertical integration, noting why Google stands out across the AI stack (apps, models, cloud, and chips like TPUs). The conversation closes with practical leadership lessons on AI fluency programs, hackathons, KPI-driven adoption, and avoiding “AI theater” so automation actually drives revenue and profit. Key takeaways: -7 Powers = clearer moat strategy -AI fluency must move KPIs -Vertical integration wins AI stacks Chapters (00:00) 7 Powers moat framework (00:26) Counterpositioning examples (00:36) Network effects and platforms (00:47) Cornered resources explained (01:04) Switching costs in agencies (01:22) Process power in manufacturing (03:12) AI leader and best moat (05:40) AI fluency hackathons (10:35) KPI-first AI adoption (12:30) Don’t give up, stay alive

Neil and Eric break down their biggest marketing predictions for 2026, covering SEO’s rebound, AEO reality checks, AI workflow automation, community building, in-person events, and why switching costs now matter more than product market fit. Recorded on Christmas Eve, this episode dives into how agencies, SaaS companies, and enterprise brands should adapt as AI accelerates feature parity and channels evolve. From go-to-market engineers to owned communities, this conversation is a practical roadmap for marketers planning the year ahead. Key takeaways: • SEO and AEO will coexist, not replace each other • In-person events and community will outperform algorithms • Switching costs beat features in modern SaaS Chapters: (00:00) Christmas Eve kickoff (00:30) SEO uncertainty and recovery (02:12) 2026 marketing predictions (03:26) Go-to-market engineers (05:40) AEO vs SEO reality (08:44) Community strategy mistakes (10:45) AI product market fit shifts (13:29) Switching costs over features (16:20) Final 2026 outlook

Neil and Eric break down why “storyteller” is suddenly the hottest corporate job title, from a Wall Street Journal trend to LinkedIn listings doubling in a year and Vanta paying up to $274,000 for a Head of Storytelling. They unpack why storytelling matters more in an AI-heavy marketing world, how to create tension using “but” beats, and why MrBeast-style narrative hooks keep viewers glued. Then they shift to YouTube strategy data: ideal video length by niche, tighter titles, and what thumbnails really do. singlegrain.com Key takeaways: -Storytelling is the AI-era differentiator. -Tension beats “and then” every time. -YouTube winners optimize length, titles, and thumbnails. Chapters: (00:00) Corporate storytellers surge (01:19) Emotional roller coaster writing (02:19) MrBeast storytelling formula (03:20) “But” creates tension (06:47) Enterprise sales de-risking (10:00) Viral YouTube data study (12:13) Best video length ranges (13:39) Titles, faces, thumbnail text (16:01) Closing thoughts

Neil and Eric break down smart bets from a work and investment perspective, why crypto still has upside potential, and why hiring great people only works at the right stage of business. They share real numbers behind outbound email, gift card incentives, and ROI, then unpack the biggest marketing wins and losses of 2025. The episode wraps with how podcasts actually make millions through ads, brand trust, and backend conversions, plus lessons from growing agencies, software, and global marketing strategies. Key Takeaways • Crypto and self-investment beat most external bets • Lead quality matters more than lead volume • Podcasts drive millions beyond ad revenue Chapters (00:00) Work and investment gambles (00:14) Crypto vs people investments (01:15) Hiring timing mistakes (03:14) Best investments in business (04:01) Biggest marketing wins 2025 (05:45) Outbound email ROI breakdown (10:38) Biggest marketing losses (14:44) How podcasts make millions

In this episode, Neil and Eric break down the rise of AI hype versus real usage, using Harvey AI, Microsoft Copilot, and ZoomInfo as case studies. They discuss $8B AI valuations, low user adoption, retention challenges, and why paying for AI does not equal value. The conversation covers venture capital incentives, SaaS economics, AI theater, and what actually drives ROI in sales, marketing, and engineering. The key question: are companies buying AI for results or optics, and when will real value show up? Key Takeaways: -AI revenue ≠ AI usage -Valuations are outpacing adoption -Monthly recurring value matters more than ARR Chapters: (00:00) Harvey AI valuation surge (01:06) AI usage vs paid licenses (02:20) VC incentives vs PE reality (04:06) Retention and adoption issues (06:22) Copilot enterprise usage data (07:58) AI impact on sales teams (10:01) ZoomInfo AI ROI breakdown (16:25) AI SEO vs traditional SEO

Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/ Want to recruit great marketers? Find them here: https://marketingschool.io/hire Hosted by Neil and Eric, this surprise live episode breaks down the best business investments of the year: choosing high-quality entrepreneur peer groups (YPO, EO style forums), saying yes to selective lunch networking, and protecting the talent bar with founder-level hiring discipline. They unpack why great people compound results, how enterprise deals often start from event relationships and long RFP cycles, and why relational wealth beats monetary wealth. Plus, favorite AI tools for productivity and marketing: Granola for meeting notes, Nano Banana for ad images, and NotebookLM for faster slide decks. Sponsor: npdigital.com. Key takeaways: -Peer groups: quality over quantity. -Networking lunches: 2 to 3 wins per 10. -Talent bar: founders must enforce it. Chapters: 00:00 Surprise live kickoff 00:21 Peer groups that matter 02:47 Weekly lunch networking 05:05 Founder-led talent bar 09:33 Relational wealth lesson 11:12 Travel, events, RFPs 15:28 AI tools: Granola, Nano Banana, NotebookLM 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟 Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer. 🎙️ Learn More About the Hosts Eric Siu – Leveling Up: / @levelingupofficial Neil Patel: / @neilpatel 📩 Free Resources Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/ Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/ ✅ Subscribe for Daily Marketing Insights!

Neil and Eric break down the real hiring mix between sourced candidates and job ads, why executive hiring should come from your network, and how overwhelmed recruiting teams change the playbook. They share practical LinkedIn recruiting tactics, the “open to work” signal they use when evaluating acquisitions, and why culture is a 60-day moving average. Plus, a sharp debate on services vs SaaS, why bad hires compound into the “Bozo explosion,” and a quick shout to MP Digital, Ubersuggest, and Answer The Public at npdigital.com. Key takeaways: -Sourcing wins for director-plus hires. -Job ads can uncover surprising talent fast. -Bad hires compound into massive output loss. Chapters: (00:00) Hiring sources vs job ads (01:54) Executive roles: hire by network (06:55) “Open to work” acquisition signal (08:50) Culture is a 60-day average (15:47) MP Digital and SEO tools (16:09) Services business vs SaaS (22:30) Organic social and YouTube audit (23:39) B players and Bozo explosion

Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/ Want to recruit great marketers? Find them here: https://marketingschool.io/hire Neil and Eric break down why founders can’t outsource recruiting, how “A players” attract more A players, and why the first hires become your company’s DNA. They share a real hiring story (an “expensive” bet that paid off), a simple test to spot weak links on a team, and why replacing instead of micromanaging unlocks self-managing teams. You’ll also hear practical retention ideas for top talent, plus a quick take on YouTube growth trends, packaging vs. over-optimizing metrics, and why niche, high-intent audiences monetize better. Sponsored mention: Karrot.ai. Key takeaways: -A-players hire A-players, fast. -Don’t manage harder, hire better. -Views are vanity, revenue is strategy. Chapters: 00:00 Founder-led recruiting matters 01:00 Co-founder recruiting leverage 02:10 Expensive hire, huge upside 04:51 Naval’s “team interview” test 06:11 Replace, don’t micromanage 07:10 Small team, better results 08:01 Retain talent with alignment 09:09 ABM ads and landing pages 10:01 YouTube trend: simpler edits 14:30 Brain-rot views vs revenue 18:31 Wide TAM vs BOFU content 19:12 Growth metrics and focus 21:36 Entrepreneurship is a game 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟 Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer. 🎙️ Learn More About the Hosts Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel 📩 Free Resources Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/ Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/ ✅ Subscribe for Daily Marketing Insights!

Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/ Want to recruit great marketers? Find them here: https://marketingschool.io/hire Neil and Eric break down the “decline of AI” narrative and why red growth charts for vibe coding tools like Cursor, Lovable, and Windsurf can be misleading. They unpack churn vs stickiness, unrealistic ARR expectations, and why enterprise coding revenue (especially Anthropic Claude Code) still signals strength. Using Ramp AI Index spend data, they discuss the momentum of OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google, plus why marketers are shifting from tool-chasing to KPI-driven fundamentals. They also review Granola AI meeting notes and why data verification matters. Key takeaways: -AI bubble fears ≠ AI slowdown -Enterprise AI adoption is the real signal -Verify AI outputs before decisions Chapters: 00:00 AI “death” chart debate 02:00 Data accuracy and enterprise revenue 03:18 Unrealistic ARR growth expectations 06:48 Data labeling and AI gold rush 08:04 MP Digital and SEO tools 08:21 Ramp AI Index adoption trends 10:48 Marketing shifts from tool-chasing 12:44 Granola AI meeting note-taker 16:45 Claude vs ChatGPT data accuracy 18:11 Verify numbers before presenting 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟 Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer. 🎙️ Learn More About the Hosts Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel 📩 Free Resources Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/ Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/ ✅ Subscribe for Daily Marketing Insights!

To get ad placements on premium websites, go to https://discover.taboola.com/ms. Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/ Want to recruit great marketers? Find them here: https://marketingschool.io/hire In this episode, Neil and Eric debate whether running a company is like raising kids, then pivot into a wild pricing lesson: how “at capacity” scarcity can filter buyers and increase close rates for consultants and service businesses. They unpack where fake scarcity breaks (enterprise), why AI is reshaping marketing agencies, and how software plus services can stay differentiated. Plus, a look at Menlo Ventures’ enterprise GenAI data, why coding spend dominates, and why hallucinations hit marketing harder than verifiable domains like code. Key takeaways: -Scarcity is a filter, not a trick. -Enterprise buyers punish “we’re too busy.” -AI makes coding sticky, marketing messy. Chapters: 00:00 Company vs kids debate 03:44 Scarcity pricing strip club story 05:49 Where scarcity works (and fails) 07:05 AI marketing and agentic workflows 07:33 Double pay for AI fluency idea 09:46 Menlo Ventures enterprise AI stats 12:08 Software plus services differentiation 13:47 Department AI spend: coding leads 14:16 Hallucinations: marketing vs coding 16:57 Wrap and goodbye 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟 Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer. 🎙️ Learn More About the Hosts Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel 📩 Free Resources Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/ Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/ ✅ Subscribe for Daily Marketing Insights!

Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/ Want to recruit great marketers? Find them here: https://marketingschool.io/hire In this episode, Neil and Eric debate whether answer engine optimization AEO is overhyped, breaking down Ahrefs data on ChatGPT vs Google traffic, why search still drives most discovery, and how to think about AI search optimization across ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, and more. They share real AI ROI examples from Goldman Sachs research, talk LLM use cases for marketing, sales, and ops, discuss AI's impact on jobs, and reveal their favorite AI stocks and winning marketing formula heading into 2026. Key takeaways: • AEO vs SEO, why AI search is overhyped now but essential long term. • Real-world AI ROI from JP Morgan, UPS, Target, Chipotle, and more. • How Neil and Eric use ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, and other LLMs to scale marketing. Chapters: 00:00 AEO vs SEO hype 01:02 ChatGPT vs Google traffic share 02:40 AEO short-term vs. long-term 05:55 LLM platform use cases 08:47 Real AI ROI case studies 11:02 AI, jobs, and 2027 outlook 12:59 Favorite AI stocks to watch 15:02 Hiring AI native marketers 17:16 2026 marketing experimentation playbook 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟 Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer. 🎙️ Learn More About the Hosts Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel 📩 Free Resources Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/ Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/ ✅ Subscribe for Daily Marketing Insights!

Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/ Want to recruit great marketers? Find them here: https://marketingschool.io/hire In this episode, Neil and Eric break down the concept of "Rich vs King" AKA Money Vs Power, using Microsoft vs SAS Institute to explore wealth vs control, equity, and generational businesses. They talk ambition after kids, compounding, TAM, IQ, focus, and why learning beats raw talent in entrepreneurship. You’ll hear how to think about billion dollar goals, picking the right niche (like HVAC), improving your focus over decades, and why B2B marketers misuse LinkedIn account-based marketing, plus how karrot.ai helps fix it. Key takeaways: -Rich vs king: choosing control or maximum upside as your company scales. -Compounding, focus and the right niche beat raw IQ in business. -Ambition, kids and balance reshape your path to billion dollar outcomes. Chapters: (00:00) Rich vs King for founders (02:10) Microsoft vs SAS Institute example (04:20) Rich, king, and life balance (06:15) Compounding, TAM, and ambition (08:10) IQ, learning and market niches (10:30) HVAC edge and simple businesses (12:30) Learning M&A, AI and recruiting (14:20) Focus over decades as founders (16:10) Money, distraction, and side projects (18:00) Hiring experts, SEO roots, wrap 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟 Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer. 🎙️ Learn More About the Hosts Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel 📩 Free Resources Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/ Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/ ✅ Subscribe for Daily Marketing Insights!

For fast, affordable business insurance as low as $29/mo, go to http://nextinsurance.com/ms Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/ Want to recruit great marketers? Find them here: https://marketingschool.io/hire Neil and Eric break down why patience, focus, and real value creation beat hype, why hating billionaires signals misplaced blame, and why virality and vibe coding rarely build durable companies. They explore bad actors vs success, the trap of chasing views, and why true leverage comes from solving customer problems, not dopamine hits or internal DIY tools. A sharp look at modern startup culture, attention chasing, and what actually lasts. Key takeaways: • Patience compounds faster than virality • Value creation beats attention chasing • Focus builds generational companies Chapters: (00:00) Founder patience (02:20) Learning through osmosis (04:55) Billionaires debate (07:30) Vibe coding limits (11:55) Virality misconceptions (17:40) Operating vs popularity (20:40) Generational business mindset 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟 Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer. 🎙️ Learn More About the Hosts Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel 📩 Free Resources Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/ Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/ ✅ Subscribe for Daily Marketing Insights!

To get ad placements on premium websites, go to https://discover.taboola.com/ms Need marketing help? Visit: https://www.singlegrain.com/ and https://npdigital.com/ Want to recruit great marketers? Find them here: https://marketingschool.io/hire Live events, in-person leadership, and long-term planning take center stage as Neil and Eric unpack why Elon Musk says live events are the last true luxury, how in-person time deepens team relationships, and why three-year planning beats short-term thinking. They break down accountability, B2B growth, RFP-focused marketing, and how great leaders push just hard enough to keep performance high without burning people out. Hosted by Neil and Eric, this episode is packed with actionable insights for founders, marketers, and B2B leaders looking to scale smarter. Key takeaways • Live events are the last real luxury • One metric per leader drives accountability • Great leaders push hard without burning people out Chapters (00:00) Elon Musk on live events as luxury (01:22) Why in-person events still matter (03:33) New marketing content formats with the team (05:18) Deepening relationships with in-person time (06:11) Three-year planning and 3HAG explained (08:40) Beyond EOS and quarterly planning theater (11:12) RFP growth, B2B pipeline, and key channels (13:28) Holding leaders accountable to one core metric (15:19) Pushing teams, follow-ups, and daily metrics (18:32) Healthy tension, chaos, and getting things done (20:24) Founder pressure, AI feedback, and leadership style (21:45) When people can’t handle the pace in business 𝗔𝗕𝗢𝗨𝗧 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗡𝗡𝗘𝗟 Welcome to Marketing School, one of the top business podcasts with over 61 million downloads. Each episode delivers actionable marketing tips and strategies from two entrepreneurs who truly practice what they preach. The show is hosted by Eric Siu, founder of Leveling Up and Single Grain, and Neil Patel, co-founder of Neil Patel Digital and recognized by Forbes as a Top 10 Marketer. 🎙️ Learn More About the Hosts Eric Siu – Leveling Up: https://www.youtube.com/@LevelingUpOfficial Neil Patel: https://www.youtube.com/@neilpatel 📩 Free Resources Growth Newsletter: https://levelingup.beehiiv.com/subscribe Ubersuggest: https://www.ubersuggest.com/ Answer The Public: https://www.answerthepublic.com/ ✅ Subscribe for Daily Marketing Insights!