Summary
• Introduction and Guest Background
◦ Mattsuuii introduces the podcast and the guest, a multi-faceted talent in graphic design, production, and artistry.
◦ Charteves Drew shares his background, mentioning his hard work and dedication to his career.
◦ Suuii talks about making shirts with Drew and the importance of making shirts that are versatile and appealing.
◦ Both speakers discuss their love for Jordan and Nike shoes, and the customization options available.
• Discussion on Music and Production
◦ Mattsuuii asks Chartaves about his music projects and any songs he has on YouTube.
◦ He talks about his journey in producing music, starting in high school and using various tools like FL Studio and Logic Pro.
◦ Suuii shares his experience with different DAWs and the challenges of working with different file formats.
◦ Charteves mentions working with various artists and the impact of his work on their careers.
• Collaborations and Mentorship
◦ Mattsuuii offers to be a mentor to Drew, sharing his experience and knowledge.
◦ Charteves talks about his collaborations with artists like Queen Nero and the success of their projects.
◦ Matt shares his own experiences with collaborations and the importance of having a unique style.
◦ Both speakers discuss the potential for future collaborations and the importance of networking in the music industry.
• Personal Stories and Inspirations
◦ Mattsuuii shares personal stories from his life, including his struggles with his father and the impact on his music.
◦ Suuii talks about a song he wrote called "Shadows Don't Last" and its significance.
◦ Charteves shares his own experiences and the lessons he learned from his father.
◦ Both speakers discuss the importance of storytelling in music and the emotional impact it can have on listeners.
• Future Projects and Aspirations
◦ Suuii talks about his upcoming projects and his involvement with major record labels.
◦ Drew shares his aspirations of becoming a father and the importance of being a good husband and father.
◦ Both speakers discuss the importance of having a supportive family and the impact of their upbringing on their careers.
◦ Charteves mentions his plans to produce more music and collaborate with more artists.
• Social Media and Contact Information
◦ Mattsuuii asks Charteves for his social media handles and contact information.
◦ Charteves provides his social media handles and mentions his online clothing store.
◦ Mattsuuii shares his own social media handles and information about his website, way2guudent.com
◦ Both speakers discuss the importance of staying connected and the potential for future collaborations.
• Final Thoughts and Shoutouts
◦ Suuii thanks Drew for being on the show and acknowledges his talent.
◦ Drew expresses gratitude for the opportunity and thanks various people who have supported him.
◦ Both speakers share shoutouts to their friends, family, and other artists they have worked with.
◦ Mattsuuii mentions his plans to promote other artists and the importance of supporting the music community.
Summary
• Real G's Background and Influences (0:00)
◦ The host Mattsuuii introduces Real G, also known as Alex Wapala, who is 36 years old, born in Egypt, and raised in New York, specifically Westchester County.
◦ G shares that he moved to the States at one year and a half and lived in Cairo for a year and a half.
◦ Mattsuuii expresses a desire to visit Egypt and asks about Real G's upbringing in New York and his introduction to hip hop.
◦ Real G mentions being influenced by rap from the ages of six to nine, with favorite rappers like DMX, Biggie, and Nas, and a preference for lyrical rappers.
• Mattsuuii's Musical Inspirations and Style
◦ Mattsuuiibdiscusses his West Coast influences, particularly Mac Dre, and his admiration for East Coast rappers like Wu-Tang Clan, Royce da 5'9", and Joell Ortiz.
◦ Real G and Matt both express admiration for Eminem, with Suuii sharing a YouTube link to an acapella freestyle by Eminem.
◦ Mattsuuii praises Eminem's wordplay and freestyling skills, describing him as the Rap God.
◦ The conversation touches on other influential rappers like Tech N9ne and Snoop Dogg, with Suuii sharing stories about Tech N9ne's success and his own collaborations with Tech N9ne's associates.
• Real G's Musical Journey and Influences
◦ Real G talks about his older brother influencing him to rap and teaching him the 16-bar formula and metaphors.
◦ Matt shares his early musical journey, starting at six years old with a rock band named Rush as his biggest inspiration.
◦ Mattsuuii describes the impact of hearing Rush's song "Tom Sawyer" and his subsequent decision to start writing lyrics.
◦ The conversation shifts to the spiritual aspect of music, with Real G asking if music is spiritual, and Suuii affirming it can be.
• Real G's Musical Projects and Messages (12:34)
◦ Real G discusses his current project, a mix tape/album called Project 2025, available on SoundCloud and Bandcamp, and his mission to challenge the status quo in rap.
◦ He emphasizes the importance of lyrics, storytelling, and metaphors in his music, with a song called "Can't Rewrite History" addressing the erasure of history.
◦ Suuii showcases his lyrical skills by spitting bars and discussing the definition of lyricism.
◦ Real G shares a bar from his song "Can't Rewrite History," highlighting his message of unity and financial empowerment.
• Mattsuuii's Lyrical Skills and Musical Influences
◦ Suuii continues to showcase his lyrical skills, sharing more bars and discussing the complexity of his lyrics.
◦ Real G appreciates the depth and creativity in Mattsuuii's lyrics, comparing it to his own song "Solid," which compares the Statue of Liberty to a woman.
◦ Mattsuuii discusses the importance of vocabulary and studying the dictionary, which influenced his early writing.
◦ The conversation touches on the difference between rap and hip hop, with both agreeing that hip hop evokes emotions and invokes deeper thought.
• Defining Artistry and Future Projects
◦ Real G defines artistry as having a vision and message, emphasizing the importance of having more than one hit.
◦ Matt expands on the definition of artistry, describing it as the ability to create something that can be visualized and felt by the audience.
◦ Real G talks about his future projects, including promoting Project 2025 and working on a new album called New Generation.
◦ Mattsuuii offers to create an album cover for Real G's new project and discusses the possibility of producing and engineering the entire album.
• Collaboration and Final Thoughts
◦ Suuii offers to produce and engineer Real G's entire album, including mixing and mastering, for a flat fee of $1200.
◦ Real G expresses interest in collaborating with Mattsuuii and discusses the quality of his recordings, which are currently done on Bandlab.
Summary
• Introduction and Backgrounds
◦ Mattsuuii introduces the show and mentions a guest producer from Sacramento, California.
◦ Raspy On Tha Beatz shares his background, mentioning he is originally from North Carolina but has been in Sacramento since 2001.
◦ Raspy has been producing music for over 10 years and has worked with various artists, including Lazie Bone from Bone Thugs-n-Harmony and San Quinn.
◦ Suuii shares his educational background, mentioning he has degrees in music production and sound engineering.
• Educational Backgrounds and Industry Insights
◦ Matt discusses the importance of college credentials in the music industry.
◦ Raspy mentions his own experience with licensing and a placement on Tyler Perry's TV show "The Haves and the Have Nots."
◦ Mattsuuii talks about his interactions with a marketing strategist named Sauce, who requires a subscription to his YouTube channel for access to resources.
◦ Both speakers discuss the challenges and opportunities in the music industry, including the importance of sync licensing.
• First Projects and Collaborations
◦ Raspy shares details about his first significant project with Big Ole Easy and the recognition it brought him in Northern California.
◦ Suuii expresses interest in hearing Raspy's work and mentions his own upcoming projects, including a fifth album and a collaboration with an artist named Rob Don.
◦ Raspy talks about his current projects, including a beat tape and ongoing work with various artists.
◦ Both speakers discuss the potential for a collaborative project, with Raspy offering to share his contacts and resources.
• Defining Rap and Hip Hop
◦ Mattsuuii asks Raspy to differentiate between rap and hip hop.
◦ Raspy emphasizes the importance of storytelling and versatility in hip hop, contrasting it with the more straightforward nature of rap.
◦ Suuii agrees, stating that hip hop evokes emotions and can have a profound impact on listeners.
◦ Both speakers discuss the commercial success of rappers versus the struggles of real hip hop artists.
• Personal Stories and Artistry
◦ Mattsuuii shares a personal story about his difficult childhood, including abuse from his father and homelessness with his mother.
◦ He discusses how his experiences have influenced his music, including a song called "Shadows Don't Last."
◦ Raspy expresses interest in hearing Speaker 1's music and shares his own definition of artistry as something that comes from the soul and evokes emotions in others.
◦ Both speakers agree on the importance of authenticity and emotional connection in art.
• Future Plans and Collaborations
◦ Mattsuuii outlines his future plans, including releasing a new album and collaborating with various artists.
◦ Raspy mentions his ongoing projects and potential collaborations with other producers and artists.
◦ Both speakers discuss the importance of staying connected and supporting each other in the industry.
◦ They agree to exchange contact information and start working on their collaborative project.
• Closing Remarks and Shoutouts
◦ Suuii and Raspy express their gratitude for the opportunity to collaborate and share their music.
◦ They discuss the importance of staying connected and supporting each other in the industry.
◦ Mattsuuii mentions his plans to publish the episode and send Raspy some beats for remixing.
◦ Both speakers share shoutouts to their friends, family, and supporters, expressing their appreciation for their support.
Summary
• Introduction and Background of Participants
◦ Mattsuuii introduces the podcast and welcomes Harry, also known as the Ice King, a 31-year-old artist from Detroit, Michigan.
◦ Iceking, Harry, introduces himself, mentioning his family and friends from Detroit.
◦ Mattsuuii shares his background, detailing his upbringing in a poverty-stricken family with an abusive father and a gambling mother.
◦ Mattsuuii describes the harsh living conditions, including sleeping in a car and dealing with drug-filled environments.
• Early Influences and Writing Journey
◦ Matt talks about his early interest in rock music and how he started writing lyrics at six years old.
◦ He shares his experience of being in juvenile hall and how it influenced his transition to hip hop.
◦ Mattsuuii describes his process of studying the dictionary and building a vast vocabulary, which he uses in his lyrics.
◦ He mentions his extensive knowledge of literary devices like analogies, metaphors, and homophones.
• First Projects and Record Label
◦ Suuii asks about Harry's first solo project, which he dates back to 2012.
◦ Mattsuuii talks about his record label, Way 2 Guud Entertainment, which he founded in 2013.
◦ He mentions having five artists signed to his label from various countries, including Nigeria and Australia.
◦ Harry discusses his collaboration with producers and the streams he receives from international listeners.
• Challenges and Personal Experiences
◦ Iceking shares his experience of being shot multiple times and how it changed his perspective on life.
◦ Mattsuuii talks about his own experiences with violence, including being shot at 13 and becoming a leader in a gang.
◦ They discuss the impact of their past on their current mindset and approach to life and music.
◦ Iceking emphasizes the importance of using one's talent and not wasting it.
• Differences Between Rap and Hip Hop
◦ Suuii explains his view on the difference between rap and hip hop, emphasizing the emotional depth and storytelling in hip hop.
◦ Iceking agrees, mentioning that he doesn't rap the same as others and prefers Detroit beats.
◦ They discuss the evolution of their styles and the influence of their environments on their music.
◦ Mattsuuii shares his admiration for Tech N9ne and the concept of constant energy struggles in life.
• True Artistry and Business Approach
◦ Suuii defines true artistry as the ability to evoke emotions and tell stories through music.
◦ Iceking talks about his business approach, emphasizing the importance of being an independent artist.
◦ They discuss the challenges of working with major record labels and the benefits of maintaining independence.
◦ Mattsuuii shares his experience as a ghostwriter and the importance of maintaining creative control.
• Upcoming Projects and Collaborations
◦ Matt asks about Harry's upcoming projects, and he mentions working on new clothing lines.
◦ Mattsuuii talks about his new shirts and his ongoing work on beats and songs.
◦ They discuss a song with an open verse that Suuiiis challenging other artists to contribute to.
◦ Mattsuuii mentions his upcoming 21-track LP and the importance of meeting deadlines.
• Technical Difficulties and Final Thoughts
◦ Mattsuuii and Iceking experience technical difficulties while trying to share music links.
◦ They apologize to the listeners for the inconvenience and express gratitude for their patience.
◦ Mattsuuii shares his experience of running a successful podcast and the importance of investing in oneself.
◦ Ice and Suuii discuss the importance of networking and supporting each other in the music industry.
Summary
• Mikey Bon3z Background and Introduction
◦ Mattsuuii introduces Mikey Bon3z, highlighting his roles as a producer, songwriter, and artist.
◦Bon3z mentions his label, Dope Fiend Music, and his work with various artists.
◦ Mikey Bon3z shares his upbringing in Fresno, California, describing it as rough and mentioning his father leaving him at a young age.
◦ He discusses the influence of his surroundings and his decision to pursue music as a way to escape a life of crime.
• Creation of Slam Music
◦ Mikey Bon3z explains the concept of Slam music, a genre he created that combines elements of grind, hardcore, trap drums, dark ambient soundscapes, and hip-hop lyrics.
◦ He compares Slam music to other genres that have mixed metal and rap, such as Public Enemy and Rage Against the Machine, but emphasizes its unique complexity and heaviness.
◦ Suuii praises Mikey for creating his own genre and asks for more details about his upbringing.
◦ Mikey Bon3z shares more about his mother, Barbara Jean Clark, and the challenges they faced growing up in a violent and drug-ridden environment.
• Mattsuuii"s Personal Story
◦ Matt shares his own traumatic upbringing, including abuse from his father and his mother's addiction to gambling.
◦ He describes the extreme poverty and homelessness his family faced, including sleeping in their car during the winter.
◦ Suuii recounts his early involvement in crime, including cooking crack cocaine, packing guns, and being shot multiple times.
◦ He discusses his time in juvenile hall and his eventual transition to boxing, where he became a champion and earned a spot on the U.S. team.
• Mikey Bon3z Early Music Projects
◦ Bon3z talks about his first music project, "Frequency Rapture," which combined minimal hip-hop beats with samples from Alex Jones and David Icke.
◦ He explains how he got into music production by watching YouTube tutorials and quickly realized he had a talent for it.
◦ Mikey Bon3z shares his influences, including classic rock, the Beastie Boys, and Rage Against the Machine.
◦ Mattsuuii and Mikey discuss their shared love for hip-hop and their favorite artists, including Wu-Tang Clan and Naughty by Nature.
• Influences and Artistry (5:21)
◦ Mikey Bon3z and Suuii discuss the differences between rap and hip-hop, with Mikey Bon3z emphasizing hip-hop's cultural and artistic aspects.
◦ They talk about the evolution of hip-hop and the impact of artists like Rick Rubin and Dr. Dre on the genre.
◦ Mikey defines artistry as the ability to convey thoughts, philosophies, and emotions through music.
◦ Mattsuuii shares his own definition of artistry, emphasizing its role in evoking emotions and creating a deeper connection with the audience.
• Mikey Bon3z Upcoming Projects (43:26)
◦ Mikey Bon3z discusses his upcoming projects, including his debut album "Skip the Phoenix" and a mini audio movie that accompanies it.
◦ He describes the storyline of the album, which follows a schizophrenic character named Mikey Bones who goes on a murder spree.
◦Bon3z talks about his second album, "Chemical Saints," and its themes of representing the marginalized and forgotten in society.
◦ He shares his vision of creating audio movies for every album release to enhance the listener's experience.
• Mikey Bon3z Songwriting and Production Skills (46:58)
◦ Mikey showcases his songwriting and production skills by playing his tracks "Brutal Crucifix" and "Vaporwave Lover."
◦ Mattsuuii praises Mikey Bones' creativity and technical skills, noting the complexity and depth of his lyrics and beats.
◦ Mikey Bon3z explains his process of creating music, including writing, producing, and engineering everything himself.
◦ They discuss the importance of storytelling in music and how Mikey Bon3z uses his experiences to create unique and impactful songs.
Summary
• DJ Loot's Introduction and Background (0:00)
◦ Matt Sue introduces DJ Loot, a music producer from Oroville, California, currently residing in Sacramento.
◦ DJ Loot shares his background, mentioning his establishment in Northern California for over two decades, producing various genres including hip hop, pop, and R&B.
◦ DJ Loot discusses his upbringing, mentioning that his grandparents raised him and he had a normal life with scholastic advantages.
◦ He talks about starting with the saxophone in the school band and later studying Recording Arts at Chico State, which formalized his music production skills.
• Matt Sue's Background and Personal Struggles (2:58)
◦ Matt Sue shares his background, mentioning his early involvement in music and his label, Way Too Good Entertainment.
◦ He discusses his time in juvenile hall for a crime he did not commit, which involved a manslaughter charge and overdose deaths related to pills he sold.
◦ Matt Sue talks about his abusive father and his mother's coping mechanisms with gambling and loan sharks.
◦ He describes the hardships he faced growing up, including living in a 1982 Nissan Sentra and sleeping under a bridge with his family.
• Matt Sue's Musical Journey and Inspirations (4:46)
◦ Matt Sue explains how he turned to music to get off probation and how his brother introduced him to hip hop.
◦ He mentions his early influences, including Rush and their drummer Neil Peart, and how they inspired his songwriting.
◦ Matt Sue discusses his experience in juvenile hall, where he started freestyling and eventually fell in love with hip hop.
◦ He shares his journey of getting degrees in music production and sound engineering, which helped him build his brand.
• DJ Loot's Early Music Production and Inspirations (8:56)
◦ DJ Loot talks about his early DJing experience with rave music and his transition to hip hop.
◦ He mentions his influences, including 2 Live Crew, Ice-T, and Naughty by Nature, and how the late 90s saw a surge in rap artists.
◦ DJ Loot describes his early attempts at beat making with basic equipment and how he improved with time and feedback from dedicated hip hop heads.
◦ He shares his experience of producing and mixing albums for various artists, including San Quinn and Hollow Tip.
• Collaborations and Industry Experience (13:56)
◦ DJ Loot discusses his collaborations with big-name artists, including San Quinn, Hollow Tip, and Mr. Fab.
◦ He mentions his work with Sony Records and Universal, and how he signed NDAs for unreleased songs.
◦ DJ Loot talks about his experience of producing and mastering entire catalogs for artists and his ongoing projects.
◦ Matt Sue expresses interest in collaborating with DJ Loot and shares his own music and beats.
• DJ Loot's Radio Show and Future Plans (21:24)
◦ DJ Loot talks about his radio show, which started as an internet-only platform and later moved to Ozcat 89.5 FM in Vallejo.
◦ He explains the format of his show, which includes live interviews and playing local and regional music.
◦ DJ Loot mentions his plans to continue expanding his skills and genres, including EDM and house music.
◦ Matt Sue and DJ Loot discuss potential collaborations and future projects, including a possible compilation album.
• Defining True Artistry and Hip Hop vs. Rap (25:34)
◦ Matt Sue and DJ Loot discuss their definitions of true artistry, emphasizing the ability to evoke emotions and resonate with the audience.
◦ They debate the differences between hip hop and rap, with DJ Loot arguing that rap is an element of hip hop.
◦ Matt Sue expresses his view that rap is often watered down and lacks the depth and storytelling of true hip hop.
◦ They both agree on the importance of skill and message in rap and hip hop.
Summary
• Introduction and Background of Don Martin (0:00)
◦ Speaker 1 introduces Martin Si Fuentes, also known as Don Martin, an artist from Corpus Christi, Texas, now residing in Italy.
◦ Don Martin shares his background, mentioning his 40+ years of playing guitar and his transition to making trap music six years ago.
◦ Don Martin describes his musical journey from playing in rock and metal bands to incorporating modern urban music like rap.
◦ Speaker 1 shares his background as a professional music artist and sound engineer, highlighting his experience with various music genres.
• Inspirations and Musical Journey (2:37)
◦ Don Martin discusses his inspiration from Neil Peart, the drummer from Rush, and his experience seeing Rush live in 1982.
◦ Speaker 1 shares his own experience of seeing Rush live in 1982 and the impact it had on his musical career.
◦ The conversation shifts to the influence of classic rock bands like Rush and the unique elements of their performances, such as Neil Peart's drum solos.
◦ Don Martin and Speaker 1 discuss the evolution of rock music and the incorporation of urban styles like rap.
• First Hip Hop Project and Collaborations (6:51)
◦ Don Martin credits Mr. Doreen Green from D Green Films for introducing him to the rap music scene.
◦ He shares his first experience with Mexican OT in Louisiana and his subsequent collaborations with him on songs like "September the 8th," "Cowboy Killer," and "Missed Calls."
◦ Speaker 1 and Don Martin discuss the influence of Mexican OT and other Texas artists on the hip hop scene.
◦ Don Martin explains that he does not rap but plays guitar and contributes to the production of the songs.
• Challenges and Personal Stories (84:38)
◦ Don Martin shares his personal story of growing up in an impoverished neighborhood in Corpus Christi and his struggles with the juvenile justice system.
◦ He discusses his time in the Texas Youth Commission and his eventual release and enlistment in the United States Navy.
◦ Speaker 1 shares his own challenging upbringing, including dealing with an abusive father and turning to gangs and drugs.
◦ Both discuss the impact of their experiences on their music and their commitment to overcoming their past.
• Musical Philosophy and Future Plans (84:54)
◦ Don Martin expresses his belief in the therapeutic value of music and how it helps him cope with his mental health challenges.
◦ He discusses his preference for using live instruments in his music and the unique sound they bring compared to digital production.
◦ Don Martin shares his plans to release more music in 2026 and his goal of creating a full album.
◦ Speaker 1 and Don Martin discuss the benefits of being an independent artist and the challenges of working with major labels.
• Cultural and Personal Connections (85:25)
◦ Don Martin and Speaker 1 discuss their shared experiences of growing up in impoverished neighborhoods and dealing with mental health issues.
◦ They talk about the importance of skills over medication in managing their conditions.
◦ Don Martin shares his background as a first-generation American and the influence of his Mexican and Louisiana roots.
◦ Speaker 1 and Don Martin discuss their shared passion for music and their commitment to creating meaningful art.
• Collaboration and Future Projects (86:06)
◦ Don Martin expresses his interest in collaborating with Matt and other artists on future projects.They discuss the potential for recording live music and incorporating different musical elements.Don Martin shares his plans to visit Alameda, California, in 2026 and the possibility of working with Suuii and other artists. Matt offers to send Don Martin his music for potential collaboration and expresses his excitement for future collaborations.
• Introduction and Background of Cap Tha Wise Guy
Mattsuuii introduces the podcast and guest, Cap Tha Wise Guy (Anthony Cappello), who is a 42-year-old rapper from Jersey, now living in San Antonio, Texas.
Mattsuuii shares his background as an up-and-coming artist and his efforts to find deserving artists for the podcast. Tha Wiseguy appreciates being on the podcast and shares his traditional childhood, mentioning his father's influence as a musician.
Cap describes his father's influence on his musical journey and his early exposure to hip-hop through artists like Wu-Tang Clan.
• Early Musical Influences and Experiences
◦ Suuii shares his early musical influences, including the rock band Rush and his father's impact on his songwriting. He also recounts his experience of writing rock songs at a young age and transitioning to hip-hop later. Cap Tha Wiseguy discusses his father's departure and the impact on his family, leading to a move to a poorer area and exposure to different music.
He then talks about his introduction to hip-hop through artists like Heavy D and Wu-Tang Clan's "36 Chambers."
• Musical Journey and Personal Milestones
Mattsuuii shares his experiences in juvenile hall and how he honed his freestyle skills. He also recounts his first recording session after being released from juvenile hall and his subsequent touring and performances. Suuii discusses the impact of Eminem and other artists on his musical journey and the evolution of his style. Cap shares his early projects, including "Truth Be Told," and the process of recording and producing music with friends.
• Defining Rap and Hip-Hop
◦ Suuii asks Cap about his views on the difference between rap and hip-hop. Wiseguy explains that hip-hop is the culture and poetry with a rhythm, while rap is more business-oriented and focused on commercial appeal. Mattsuuii and Cap discuss the simplicity of modern music and the challenge of getting people to listen to more complex and poetic music.
Suuii shares his experience of writing complex lyrics and the challenge of being understood by the audience.
• Artistry and Universal Language of Music
◦ Suuii and Cap discuss the concept of pure artistry and its importance in music. Tha Wiseguy emphasizes that artistry is about expressing feelings and emotions, and it's not always appreciated by the masses. Mattsuuii shares his admiration for artists like Tupac and the impact of their music on his life. Cap and Suuii discuss the universal language of music and its ability to connect people across different cultures and languages.
• Challenges and Opportunities in the Music Industry
Matt shares his experience of working with major record labels and co-writing songs for other artists. Cap inquires about the nature of the NDAs and royalties involved in Matt's work with record labels.
Suuii discusses his education in sound engineering and music production and his work as an on-call producer for Sony Records and Universal Music Group. Cap and Matt talk about the challenges and opportunities in the music industry, including the importance of having a strong team and support system.
• Upcoming Projects and Collaborations
Cap Tha Wiseguy shares details about his upcoming projects, including an international collaboration with artists from different parts of the world.
Suuii talks about his record label, Way 2 Guud Entertainment, and the artists he has signed from various countries. Cap discusses his work with producers from different regions and the unique sounds they bring to his music. Suuii and Cap express their interest in collaborating on future projects and the potential for creating something unique and impactful.
• Final Thoughts and Shoutouts
◦ Suuii and Tha Wiseguy discuss the importance of staying connected and supporting each other in their musical journeys.
• Introduction and Background of TM
Mattsuuii introduces T. M., an artist from Atlanta, Georgia, now living in Las Vegas, Nevada, and mentions his affiliation with Roc Nation and Wild Dogs Entertainment. T.M. clarifies his name as T.M. and mentions his label, Loose Cannon Records.
Mattsuuii shares his background, mentioning his independent label, Way 2 Guud Entertainment, and his family's musical influence. Mattsuuii recounts his early exposure to rock music, specifically Rush, and his early songwriting efforts, including being registered as a songwriter by BMI at age nine.
• T.M.'s Musical Journey and Inspirations
◦ T.M. discusses his upbringing in a radio family, exposed to various music genres, and his early piano playing skills. Suuii shares his family's musical background, including his grandparents' involvement in country bands and their connections with Merle Haggard.T.M. explains his move to Las Vegas after returning from Iraq, initially for a drive but ending up staying.T.M. describes his transition from concert promotion to becoming an artist, influenced by his friends and the EDM scene in Las Vegas.
• Writing Process and Musical Style
T.M. describes his writing process, which involves freestyling and piecing together usable bars.
Matt and T.M. discuss their influences, including Lil Wayne's freestyling techniques.
T.M. explains his eclectic musical style, starting with hip hop over dubstep and EDM, and later moving into pop hip hop and emo rap.T.M. mentions his recent collaboration with The Source, which compared him to artists like Juice WRLD and Iann Dior.
• Artistry and Defining Hip Hop
Mattsuuii and T.M. discuss the difference between rap and hip hop, emphasizing hip hop's cultural and emotional depth. T.M. defines artistry as subjective and not for everyone, using the example of Picasso's paintings.Suuii shares his experience with songwriting and the complexity of his lyrics, including references to historical and sports figures. T.M. and Matt agree on the importance of evoking emotions through music and the role of storytelling in hip hop.
• T.M.'s Projects and Aspirations
T.M. talks about his recent EP release, featuring a previously unreleased single and a collaboration with Lil Wayne T.M. mentions his previous EP, "The Weapon," produced by Funka, and his focus on releasing singles.
Mattsuuii shares his own musical journey, including his self-produced albums and collaborations with other artists.T.M. discusses his upcoming projects, including a single with Fuego Base and Black Soprano Family, and his goal of charting on Billboard.
• Collaboration and Future Plans
Suuii offers TM two free beats and suggests potential collaboration opportunities.T.M. expresses interest in working with Matt and mentions his label's support.
Suuii highlights the importance of creative control and his commitment to his independent label.T.M. and Matt discuss the potential for future projects and the benefits of their mutual connections in the music industry.
• Closing Remarks and Shoutouts
T.M. shares his gratitude for the support from his label, distribution, and engineers. Suuii offers his engineering services and expresses his appreciation for the artists featured on his podcast.
T.M. and Suuii exchange final shoutouts and express their excitement for future collaborations.
• Introduction and Background of Participants
◦ Mattsuuii introduces himself as a professional hip hop artist, sound engineer, and producer, and CEO and founder of Way 2 Guud Entertainment record label.
Matt greets Hype Man, Tommy G, and K, and they exchange pleasantries about their current states of being. Matt mentions his history with Hype Man, having collaborated on two mix tapes, "CA to TN: Back At it Again, Volume One, Volume Two. Suuii asks Hype Man to share his upbringing, childhood, and how he got into music.
• Hype Man's Upbringing and Early Music Journey
Hype Man shares that he was born in Decatur, Tennessee, a small town. He started taking music seriously about a year and a half ago, initially using it to keep his mind busy.Hype Man met a person named Devv, who inspired him to take his music seriously.Devv sent Hype Man a song to collaborate on, dedicated to his mom who passed away, which motivated Hype Man to write his first serious verse.
Suuii's Impressions and Hype Man's Progression
Matt praises Hype's style, flow, and swag, comparing him to other artists he has listened to over the years. Hype Man appreciates the compliment and mentions that he has been progressing and getting better with every song. Suuii asks about Hype Man's first solo project, which was recorded on his phone.
Hype reflects on his improvement from his early recordings to his current work.
• Differences Between Rap and Hip Hop
◦ Mattsuuii and TG discuss the differences between rap and hip hop. Matt describes rap as watered-down radio music without substance, while hip hop is art that evokes emotions.Hype agrees, stating that real hip hop brings people together and has meaning behind the words.They discuss the various styles of rap and how Hype Man is still learning and enjoying his journey.
• Independence and Artistry in Hip Hop
◦ Matt emphasizes the importance of creative freedom and independence in hip hop.He mentions his motto of being independent and not telling his artists what to do.
He also shares his approach to writing music, which involves studying the dictionary and not experiencing writer's block.
Hype Man expresses his admiration for Suuii's lyrical skills and mentions the challenges of understanding some of his bars.
• Collaboration and Future Plans
◦ Matt offers Hype a contract to join Way 2 Guud Entertainment and work together.Hype mentions his skills in making graphics for promotional purposes and his involvement in Mattsuuii's upcoming song "Hotta Than Me."
Matt highlights Hype Man's talent and mentions his future collaborations with Hype Man. They discuss the importance of owning one's masters and the success story of Russ, the rapper.
• Hype Man's Goals and Aspirations
◦ Hype shares his goal of inspiring others through his music, regardless of his success in the industry. Matt shares the story of Rittz the Rapper, who started late but achieved success, to inspire Hype Man. They discuss the challenges and haters in the industry and the importance of staying true to oneself.
Hype Man mentions that hate motivates him to work harder.
• Final Thoughts and Shoutouts
◦ Matt and Hype discuss their mutual respect and the importance of staying independent.Matt plays Hype Man's song "Pringles" for the fans and praises its quality. Hype shares that the beat was produced by one of his friends and mentions his recent upgrade to Pro Tools.
They wrap up the conversation with shoutouts to their families, friends, and supporters, and express their excitement for future collaborations.
• Introduction and Backgrounds
Mattsuuii introduces Dennis Campbell, also known as Mr. BizNTech, a 36-year-old hip hop artist from St. Louis, Missouri, now residing in LA. Dennis Campbell introduces himself as a tech executive, entrepreneur, and innovator, and mentions his background in hip hop, having been making music for about 10-12 years. Mattsuuii shares his educational background, including degrees from 2 big schools, and his current role as an on-call producer and engineer for Universal and Sony. Dennis discusses his upbringing in St. Louis, the cultural and systemic oppression he faced, and how his family helped him stay on the right path. Dennis explains his early passion for technology, influenced by the rise of social media like Facebook during his high school years. He shares his journey from St. Louis to Atlanta, where he attended Georgia Tech and eventually moved to California. Dennis emphasizes the challenges of growing up in St. Louis, particularly for young African American men, and his determination to find opportunities outside the city. Suuii relates to Dennis's experience, sharing his own background from Redding, California, and his work with Universal and Sony. Dennis talks about his first project, an album titled "You Cannot See This," which was released on October 17. He describes the album as a journey of self-discovery and empowerment, encouraging listeners to be their authentic selves and live their purpose.Dennis explains the album's structure, starting with an introduction to his background and ending with tracks meant to bring life and inspiration. He highlights his lyrical style, which blends traditional hip hop with a focus on connecting and resonating with listeners. Matt shares his early interest in music, starting to write lyrics at six years old and being published by BMI at nine. He discusses his transition from rock to hip hop, influenced by his experiences in juvenile hall and his first album released in 2012.He then talks about his educational journey, earning two bachelor's degrees and becoming a self-producer to avoid studio costs.He mentions his upcoming album, "And That's That," and his aspirations to collaborate with other artists, including Dennis. Dennis explains his definition of hip hop as a culture encompassing music, lifestyle, fashion, dancing, art, and DJing.He differentiates hip hop from rap, describing rap as the music art form within the broader hip hop culture.Mattsuuii adds his perspective, defining rap as something anyone can do and hip hop as a feeling that can evoke emotions and reactions.Dennis references KRS-One's quote, "Hip Hop is hip intelligent movement," emphasizing the empowering and inspiring nature of hip hop. Dennis defines artistry as self-expression through various forms, including painting, video, movie, and song. He emphasizes the importance of artistry as a vehicle for expressing emotions and inspiring others.Suuii agrees, sharing his own definition and experiences in self-expression through music. Dennis discusses his upcoming projects, including more visuals for his album and potential collaborations with other artist. Dennis talks about his tech company, On Another World, which focuses on immersive technology at the intersection of wellness and technology. He explains his strategy of using his tech career to promote his music and attract more attention to his art. Dennis mentions his use of AI for creating visuals and his plan to gradually release singles from his album on platforms like Spotify. He discusses his ebook, "Beyond Code," which provides guidance on entering the tech industry, and his plans for future collaborations and projects.
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• Introduction and Backgrounds
Mattsuuii introduces Xhale (aka Chris Hale) from Phoenix, Arizona, now residing in Colorado Springs, Colorado.Xhale introduces himself as part of the record label Century World Industry and expresses his dedication to the music industry. Suuii shares his background, including his education in sound engineering and music production, and his work as a producer and ghostwriter for Universal and Sony.
He then explains his use of his success to help upcoming artists through his podcast and mentions his professional promoter.
• Upbringing and Early Influences
◦ Xhale talks about his upbringing in Phoenix, mentioning his birth in Mesa and his involvement in sports like basketball and football. He shares his transition into music, influenced by his interest in manipulating sounds and noises from a young age.Xhale discusses his early projects, including remixes for Little John and Lil Scrappy, and his first significant project, "Day of Reckoning" with the group Simply Pimping. He mentions winning the Producer's Choice Award for Hip Hop Artist of the Year at the Phoenix Music Awards in 2011.
• Musical Journey and Achievements
◦ Mattsuuii shares his early musical journey, starting with his first album "Money Over Matter" in 2012 and his subsequent education in music production.
Xhale talks about his first significant project, "Day of Reckoning," and its impact, including winning an award at the Phoenix Music Awards.Matt highlights his ghostwriting work for an extensive amount of artist small and large. Xhale discusses his current project with Shadow Boy, a new song called "Low Rider Girl," and its cultural significance.
• Artistry and Definitions
Mattsuuii and Xhale discuss the differences between rap and hip hop, with Xhale defining rap as putting words together that rhyme and hip hop as the feeling and soul behind the words.They agree that mainstream music is often just rap, while hip hop can evoke emotions and tell stories. Xhale defines artistry as the ability to convey feelings and emotions through music, and they discuss how artistry can be expressed in various forms, not just music.
Suuii emphasizes the importance of creativity and the ability to evoke emotions in art.
• Independence and Future Plans
Xhale talks about his decision to maintain creative control over his music and his ability to manage his career independently. Mattsuuii shares his own experience of working independently and running his own label, Way 2 Guud ENT.
They discuss the importance of education in music and their respective educational backgrounds, including attending Full Sail University.
Xhale mentions his ongoing education at Full Sail to obtain a Bachelor's degree in audio production.
• Collaboration and Final Thoughts
◦ Matt offers to send Xhale two free beats and new tracks for potential collaboration.
Xhale expresses his interest in working with Mattsuuii and shares his acronym for success: Faith, Focused, Aware, Dedicated, and Educated People Around Us.
They discuss the importance of spirituality and faith in their lives and their plans to stay in contact for future collaborations.
Xhale shares his social handles and thanks Matt for the opportunity to be on the show, while Mattsuuii wishes Xhale a happy belated birthday and promotes the episode for release.
• Introduction and Background of AK the Akron Knight
Mattsuuii introduces AK the Akrinknight, also known as AK, who is originally from Lorain, Ohio, but has lived most of his life in Akron, Ohio. AK shares that he was inspired to start making music at the age of 13, influenced by his older brother who was into rap.
Mattsuuii shares his own background, mentioning that he started writing lyrics at the age of six and became a professional songwriter by the age of nine. Both speakers discuss their early inspirations, with Matt mentioning artists like Rush and AK mentioning artists like Twista and Bone Thugs-n-Harmony.
• Early Music Projects and Label Experiences
AK talks about his first project, which was not officially released but involved handing out CDs and performing in local stores.
◦ Mattsuuii shares his experience of releasing his first full project in 2013 called "Money Over Matter" and founding his own record label, Way 2 Guud Entertainment. AK mentions his involvement with the label Logic Records and working on albums like "The Foundation" and "Volume One, Volume Two, Volume Three."
Suuii discusses his experience as a ghostwriter, writing songs for artists all over the world, and the importance of maintaining humility despite success.
• Recent Projects and Achievements
AK talks about his recent singles, including "The Best Alive," which he entered in a contest and placed eighth out of over 1000 entries.
◦ Mattsuuii shares his upcoming fifth album, which he is self-producing, and mentions his recent single "Hotta Than Me." Both speakers discuss the importance of having substance in music and the impact of their personal experiences on their songwriting.
AK mentions his goal of providing for his family through music and the importance of maintaining integrity in the industry.
• Defining Artistry and Inspirations
◦ Suuii and AK discuss the difference between rap and hip hop, with Matt emphasizing the need for emotion and storytelling in hip hop.AK shares his perspective on artistry, describing it as an expression of culture that can span various forms, including painting and crafting. Both speakers talk about their inspirations, with AK mentioning artists like JID, Joyner Lucas, and Eminem, and Mattsuuii mentioning artists like Royce Da 5'9" and Kendrick Lamar.Mattsuuii shares his experience of being a registered poet and the importance of continuous learning and education in music production.
• Future Goals and Collaboration
AK expresses his desire to provide for his family and gain fans through his music, emphasizing the importance of small, steady steps.Suuii shares his aspirations of winning multiple Grammys and being inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame. Both speakers discuss the importance of maintaining integrity and not compromising their values for financial gain.Mattsuuii offers to send AK two free beats and suggests a potential collaboration, highlighting the mutual respect and admiration between them.
• Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts
◦ AK shares his gratitude for the opportunity to be on the show and expresses his motivation to continue pursuing his music career. Matt encourages AK to never doubt himself and to use any criticism as fuel for his success.
Both speakers share their social media handles and plans for future collaboration, with Suuii promising to send AK some of his music for feedback.The interview concludes with AK performing his song "Lisa Mona" and Mattsuuii expressing his admiration for AK's talent and potential.
• Childhood and Upbringing in the Crest
◦ Mattsuuii introduces Sleep Dank, Mac Dre's great friend, and mentions his connection to the Bay Area. Sleep Dank describes his upbringing in an all-black neighborhood called the Country Club Crest, Vallejo, highlighting its tough elements and strong community support. The community played a significant role in raising the children, with neighbors looking out for each other. He also emphasizes the neighborhood's history of being one of the worst in Vallejo since the 1960s.
• Early Days with Mac Dre
Sleep recounts how Mac Dre started rapping and used to sleep at his mother's house, leaving his equipment for him to play with.
He also mentions making beats with Marlon Dubee and Mac Mall, and how they were young and making demos. Mattsuuii shares his own background, including his involvement in the ecstasy movement and his subsequent seven-year prison sentence for manslaughter. Sleep clarifies the difference between the hyphy movement and mob music, emphasizing that he identifies more with gangster rap.
• Impact of Mac Dre's Death
Mattsuuii asks about the impact of Mac Dre's death on the Crest.
Sleep Dank explains that it was a significant blow, as Dre was just reaching his pinnacle and was unexpectedly cut from them. The community had to bear down and keep the legacy going, with each member holding onto what they learned from Dre. Sleep expresses that he doesn't celebrate Dre's death but keeps him in his heart, while Suuii celebrates and prays for him every year.
Sleep Dank's Music Career
Mattsuuii inquires about Sleep Dank's first real project.
Sleep talks about his first album, "Murder Book Author," which sold over 5000 units and was distributed by Coolio. Sleep discusses the current music industry, emphasizing the shift towards singles and the importance of making people want the album. He also mentions his two new singles, two digital albums, and an upcoming collaboration with Glasses Malone.
• Differences Between Rap and Hip Hop
Mattsuuii asks Sleep Dank about the difference between rap and hip hop. Sleep explains that a hip hop artist has topics and can speak on various things, making emotions and sticking to the story. A rapper, according to him, uses money as their image and doesn't focus on the lyrics. He then emphasizes the importance of being true to one's craft and not using images to gain fame.
True Artistry and Writing Process
Mattsuuii asks about true artistry.
Sleep Dank defines true artistry as someone who writes music consistently, even when not at home, and always writes from personal experiences He also shares that he never experienced writer's block because he writes from his life experiences.
Sleep advises rappers to make themselves happy and tell their stories their way, without worrying about pleasing others.
• Battle Rap and Future Plans
Mattsuuii mentions his background in producing and engineering music.Sleep talks about his love for battle rap and his involvement in various leagues, including starting his own league, Headshot Battle League.
He says he plans to bring battle rap to the 707 area and is looking for new talent to join his league.
He also mentions his new label, Bay Area Drill Music, which combines Chicago drill music with a Bay Area melody.
• Final Thoughts and Shoutouts
Matt and Sleep discuss their upcoming projects and potential collaborations. Sleep shares his social media handles and encourages people to check out his music and videos on YouTube.
He gives shoutouts to the universe, Mac Dre, and the Bay Area rappers, expressing gratitude for the opportunity to share his story.
Suuii thanks him for the insightful conversation and mentions sending him two free beats for potential collaboration.
Summary
• Introduction and Background of JaeKush
◦ Mattuuii introduces the show, "Mattsuuii's Hip Hop Talk Shop Season Two," and welcomes JaeKush from Chicago, Illinois.
◦ JaeKush shares his background, mentioning his Muslim name, Zaire, and his upbringing on the south side of Chicago in the Roseland community.
◦ Jay Kush discusses his age, turning 30 soon, and his early exposure to music, starting in fifth grade due to his surroundings and experiences.
◦ Kush talks about his conversion to Islam and the impact of violence, drugs, and losing family members on his music.
• Mattsuuii"s Music Background and Show Purpose
◦ Mattsuuii shares his extensive music background, including being published with BMI as a professional songwriter at nine, and his degrees in music production and sound engineering.
Matt then explains the purpose of the show, which is to find and showcase talented artists who need to be heard. The main topic of the show is the difference between rap and hip hop, with JaeKush defining rap as more for entertainment and hip hop as a storytelling form. Matt emphasizes the importance of creative freedom and the ability to evoke emotions in hip hop, calling himself a "Picasso with a ballpoint pen."
• Defining Real Artistry and Storytelling
◦ JaeKush and Mattsuuii discuss the definition of a real artist, with JaeKush stating that an artist should paint a picture with their words. Suuii shares his approach to storytelling, mentioning songs like "It's a Tragedy" and "Shadows Don't Last," and his use of complex vocabulary and metaphors. Kush agrees with Matt's approach and discusses the challenge of not cursing in music, praising Mattsuuii's talent for doing so. The conversation touches on the importance of authenticity in music, with JaeKush speaking from personal experiences and Mattsuuii emphasizing the need for relatable stories.
• Independent vs. Major Labels
◦ Mattsuuii asks Jae about his preference for signing with an independent label or a major label. JaeKush expresses a preference for independent labels, citing the lack of control and the multiple levels of command in major labels. Mattsuuii shares the success story of Russ, an independent artist who owned his masters and built a successful career without a major label.The discussion includes the benefits of independent labels, such as creative control and better care for artists.
• Merchandise and Collaboration
◦ JaeKush mentions his partnership with a personal camera man and their clothing line, which includes music and camera-related items. Suuii offers to connect Kush with a professional who can provide affordable merchandise, including shirts and beanies. Jay expresses interest in obtaining 100-200 shirts and hoodies for his merchandise. Mattsuuii and JaeKush discuss potential collaboration, with Jay Kush mentioning his upcoming project, "The Voice of Rose," and Matt offering to send beats for Kush to use.
• Playing Jay Kush's Music
Matt plays Kush's song, "Roseland's Most Wanted," and asks JaeKush about the project it comes from. JaeKush mentions his first project and his upcoming project, "The Voice of Rose," which is expected to release around the end of November or early December. Mattsuuii shares his own music background, mentioning his projects like "Money Over Matter" and "One Blow K.O." The conversation includes plans for future collaboration, with Jay expressing interest in working with Matt and shooting a music video.
• Closing Remarks and Shoutouts
◦ Mattsuuii offers JaeKush two free beats and encourages him to pick one or two for potential collaboration. ◦ Kush expresses gratitude and mentions his responsibilities, promising to check out the beats later. ◦ Mattsuuii and JaeKush exchange shoutouts, with Kush shouting out the Chicago area and his community, and Matt shouting out God, music, and the listeners. ◦ The episode concludes with Matt thanking JaeKush for joining the show and expressing excitement for future collaboration.