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Media Summit Podcast
Media Summit
18 episodes
1 week ago
We’re bringing together the world's top journalists, editors, and media professionals to explore the craft and business of journalism—along with its evolving relationship to the economy, tech, and venture capital. Investors, journalists, founders, communications professionals, and others interested in the world of business news should apply to attend this invite-only event.
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We’re bringing together the world's top journalists, editors, and media professionals to explore the craft and business of journalism—along with its evolving relationship to the economy, tech, and venture capital. Investors, journalists, founders, communications professionals, and others interested in the world of business news should apply to attend this invite-only event.
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Media Summit Podcast
How Forbes Actually Makes Money in 2025, with Editor-in-Chief Randall Lane

For more than a century, Forbes has been synonymous with success. But behind the lists, covers, and cultural moments is something far more interesting: a media company that quietly rebuilt itself to survive (and grow) through some of the most turbulent years in journalism.


At Media Summit NYC 2025, we sat down with Randall Lane, Editor-in-Chief and Chief Content Officer of Forbes, for a candid conversation about how Forbes actually operates today and where it’s heading next.


In this episode, Randall breaks down:


  • How Forbes built a diversified business model across subscriptions, ads, licensing, and events


  • Why diversification allowed Forbes to weather Covid without panic


  • Why AI isn’t a product, but a layer that will change every part of media


  • How Forbes thinks about creators as entrepreneurs, not influencers


  • Why Forbes shows up in over 150 hip-hop songs and what that says about brand power


  • How Forbes decides which lists to expand, evolve, or kill


  • Why the riskiest move for media companies right now is not experimenting

This is a real-time look at how a 100+ year-old brand adapts without losing its identity and why entrepreneurship remains the connective tissue across everything Forbes does.


Whether you’re a journalist, founder, creator, or media operator, this conversation offers rare insight into what it actually takes to build something durable in an industry defined by change.


🎧 Watch or listen to the full conversation from Media Summit | NYC 2025.

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1 week ago
17 minutes 43 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
Why Journalists Are Becoming Founders, with Alex Konrad, Alex Heath, and Hope King

Independent media is a full-blown movement in 2025. And in this candid Media Summit | NYC 2025 panel, three of the most respected builders in the space pull back the curtain on what it actually takes to go out on your own.


Alex Konrad (Upstarts Media), Alex Heath (Sources), and Hope King (Macro Talk) join moderator Kerry Flynn (Axios) for a conversation that blends founder psychology, revenue mechanics, creative autonomy, and the hidden cost structure behind the indie boom.


This episode is a masterclass for anyone thinking about launching a newsletter, podcast, or solo media business or anyone simply fascinated by where journalism is heading next.

What you’ll learn in this episode:- Why so many top reporters are leaving legacy media (and why none of them regret it)


- The real economic math of going solo (subscriptions, ads, podcast revenue, events, fractional teams)


- The part no one glamorizes: loneliness, founder-burnout, no weekends, and the pressure to be the bottleneck in your own company


- How indie creators build alliances instead of newsrooms (and why community is replacing corporate structure)


- Why naming your media company after yourself might limit your upside


- The surprising truth: reporters make better salespeople than they ever expected


- A framework for deciding if independence is right for you: “Do you want the outcome or do you want the work required to get the outcome?”


- The future of indie media: the brands, the ad dollars, and the new infrastructure forming around independent creators


Packed with practical advice, behind-the-scenes stories, and founder-level honesty, this episode is required listening for anyone navigating the intersection of journalism, entrepreneurship, and personal brand building.

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4 weeks ago
21 minutes 54 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
The NYT Strategy That Took Them From 1.5M to 12M Subscribers, with David Rubin

How do you build, protect, and grow one of the most influential news brands on earth?


In this panel from Media Summit | NYC 2025, Sara Fischer sat down with David Rubin, Chief Brand & Communications Officer at The New York Times. He’s the executive responsible for how the Times shows up across news, Cooking, Games, Wirecutter, The Athletic, and its entire subscription ecosystem.


Rubin joined the Times nine years ago, when the company had just 1.5 million subscribers. Today, it’s approaching 12 million with one of the strongest media bundles in the world.


This conversation goes deep into brand strategy, trust, growth, misinformation, product, and the future of journalism (and why the Times believes news is still the core of everything).

In this episode, you’ll learn:

  • Why the Times launched family subscriptions


  • The Times’ 3-pillar brand strategy


  • How NYT responds to misinformation and public attacks


  • The Times’ stance on the Trump lawsuit


  • Why only a fraction of people who read news actually pay for it


  • The “solar system” model for NYT’s products


  • What the next era of New York Times branding will focus on

👉 Watch and listen to the full episode now, wherever you get your podcasts.

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1 month ago
23 minutes 33 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
Can You Still Start a Newsletter in 2025? Two Multi-Million Dollar Creators Debate It

Independent media isn’t a theory anymore. It’s a business model. And two of its most successful operators sat down at Media Summit | SF 2025 to break down how it actually works.


Emily Sundberg, the writer behind Feed Me, and Eric Newcomer, the founder of Newcomer, joined Nayeema Raza (Smart Girl, Dumb Questions) for one of the most honest conversations on modern media you’ll hear this year.


Both Emily and Eric have built profitable, bootstrapped media businesses with real revenue, real communities, and real cultural influence. In this conversation, they talk openly about money, subscription growth, community building, hiring, legal risks, events, brand deals, and the grind required to keep it all going.


They get into the parts of the business that most people never say out loud.

What You’ll Learn:

1. How they built multi-million-dollar media businesses without raising a dime


Eric reveals Newcomer will pass $3M revenue this year with seven-figure profits. Emily walks through her path to building a low-seven-figure operation with a small team, an office, and a fast-growing brand.


2. Why starting a newsletter in 2025 is very different from 2020


Both explain how Substack’s culture and ecosystem have changed, why today’s reader expectations are higher, and what it now takes to grow from zero.


3. How they knew their newsletters were working


From Marc Andreessen paying to read Feed Me to Silicon Valley legends DM-ing Newcomer, they share the real signals that told them to double down.


4. The business model behind modern creator-media companies


Subscriptions. Events. Ads. Community. Merch. Legal infrastructure. They talk through what actually drives revenue and what people underestimate.


5. The new rules of independence


How to stay close to an industry without becoming captured by it. What their readers expect. And why being “inside but independent” is now a competitive advantage.


6. The pressure to keep going — and how they scale the work


Eric talks about the brutal “year two” dip and why building a team matters. Emily shares why writing about New York is her secret weapon.


7. Why community is the new moat


Emily’s comment sections and IRL parties. Eric’s Cerebral Valley events. Both explain why readers care more about connecting with each other than anything else.


8. How legal, risk, and protection work when you leave a newsroom


They share what they miss from legacy media, what they’ve had to build themselves, and what every new creator should know before publishing something risky.


This episode is a rare look inside the real operations of two profitable, fast-growing, creator-built media companies. It’s sharp, honest, human, and genuinely useful whether you’re building something yourself or just curious how the new media world actually works.


Watch the full episode on YouTube, Spotify, or wherever you listen!

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1 month ago
22 minutes 56 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
Reporting on Wall Street with NYT’s’ Lauren Hirsch and WSJ’s Telis Demos at Media Summit | NYC 2024

After Earnings co-host Katie Perry moderates a conversation on reporting on Wall Street with New York Times reporter Lauren Hirsch and Wall Street Journal reporter Telis Demos at Media Summit | NYC 2024.


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1 month ago
23 minutes 51 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
Interview with Fortune Term Sheet's Allie Garfinkle at Media Summit | SF 2025

Accel's Chantelle Darby speaks with Fortune Term Sheet's Allie Garfinkle at Media Summit | SF 2025.


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2 months ago
18 minutes 39 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
An Interview with TechCrunch Editor-in-Chief Connie Loizos at Media Summit | NYC 2024

Haymaker Founder J.J. Colao discusses the role of tech and venture capital journalism with TechCrunch’s Editor-in-Chief Connie Loizos at Media Summit | NYC 2024.


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2 months ago
21 minutes

Media Summit Podcast
Interview with Semafor Editor-in-Chief Ben Smith at Media Summit | NYC 2024

Haymaker Group Founder J.J. Colao discusses the ascendance and fall of digital media with Semafor’s Editor-in-Chief Ben Smith at Media Summit | NYC 2024.


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2 months ago
26 minutes 46 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
VC Reporting Panel with Forbes’ Alex Konrad and Axios’ Dan Primack at Media Summit | NYC 2024

Erin Gleason, Chief Communications Officer at Founders Fund, moderates a conversation on VC reporting with Forbes’ previous Senior Editor and founder of Upstarts Media Alex Konrad and Axios’ Business Editor Dan Primack at Media Summit | NYC 2024.


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2 months ago
33 minutes

Media Summit Podcast
Big Tech Reporting Panel with The Verge, WIRED, and Semafor at Media Summit | SF 2025

Big Tech Reporting with The Verge's Alex Heath, WIRED's Zoe Schiffer, and Semafor's Reed Albergotti, moderated by SF Standard's Jeff Bercovici at Media Summit | SF 2025.


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3 months ago
20 minutes 19 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
Interview with Kara Swisher at Media Summit | SF 2025

Emilie Cole speaks with Kara Swisher at Media Summit | SF 2025.


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3 months ago
40 minutes 21 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
The Future of Media with Peter Kafka and Tony Haile at Media Summit | NYC 2024

Tony Haile, founder of Chartbeat and Filament, discusses the future of media with Business Insider’s Chief Correspondent Peter Kafka at Media Summit | NYC 2024.


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3 months ago
26 minutes 30 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
Interview with Noahpinion's Noah Smith at Media Summit | SF 2025

Haymaker Founder J.J. Colao speaks with Noahpinion's Noah Smith at Media Summit | SF 2025.


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3 months ago
28 minutes 49 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
An Interview with The Verge Editor-in-Chief Nilay Patel at Media Summit | NYC 2024

Tech:NYC CEO Julie Samuels discusses the changing media landscape with The Verge’s Editor-in-Chief Nilay Patel at Media Summit | NYC 2024.


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3 months ago
22 minutes 1 second

Media Summit Podcast
Interview with The Information's Jessica Lessin at Media Summit | SF 2025

Haymaker Founder J.J. Colao speaks with The Information's Jessica Lessin at Media Summit | SF 2025.


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4 months ago
22 minutes 25 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
Podcast Panel with Semafor’s Nayeema Raza and Prof G Show’s Ed Elson at Media Summit | NYC 2024

Lightspeed Venture Partners’ Mike Mignano moderates a conversation on the behind-the-scenes details of podcasting with Semafor Mixed Signals co-host Nayeema Raza and Prof G Markets co-host Ed Elson at Media Summit | NYC 2024.

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4 months ago
26 minutes 17 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
AI Reporting Panel with Fast Company, Bloomberg, and TechCrunch at Media Summit | SF 2025

Kia Kokalitcheva, Senior Editor at Pitchbook, moderates a conversation on AI Reporting with Fast Company's Mark Sullivan, Bloomberg's Shirin Ghaffary, and TechCrunch's Maxwell Zeff at Media Summit | SF 2025.


How should we think about AI Reporting?


Moderator Kia Kokalitcheva sits down with Shirin Ghaffary (Bloomberg), Mark Sullivan (Fast Company), and Maxwell Zeff (TechCrunch) to sort what is real, what is working, and what is still wishful thinking. They cover the early “holy shit” moments, why full job takeover is harder than the slides suggest, where agents break in the real world, how they actually use AI in reporting, and the most uncomfortable story they have covered so far.


What you will learn


  • Why end to end “AI does your job” runs into reliability and adoption walls


  • The agent‑first promise vs the complexity of real companies


  • How top reporters use AI for research and editing without losing the craft


  • What made SB 1047 the most polarizing AI story to cover


  • Where AI can help and what it still cannot replace in journalism

Chapters


00:00 Intro. What makes this AI wave different


00:00:13 Shirin on a new kind of “intelligence” that felt like science fiction


00:01:07 Maxwell on how new the field still is and why newcomers can contribute


00:01:49 Mark on compute, GPUs, and why the “magic” surprised everyone


00:02:56 Early skepticism. Chatbots of 2015 vs ChatGPT


00:04:52 “Holy s***” moments and the limits seen in early Copilot demos


00:06:41 What the panel is still skeptical about


00:06:49 Shirin on why full job replacement is a long road


00:08:14 Maxwell on chatbots vs agents and what feels far off


00:09:04 Mark’s agent‑first reality check


00:10:31 The most uncomfortable story to cover


00:10:49 Maxwell on SB 1047 and a divided AI community


00:12:15 How the panel actually uses AI in their work


00:12:30 Maxwell’s “find the holes” edit pass with AI


00:13:19 Mark on research, triangulation, and why he avoids AI writing


00:14:39 Shirin on using AI for structure and why writing sharpens thinking


00:15:54 Will AI replace journalists


00:16:11 What AI still cannot do in real reporting


00:16:50 Wrap


If you care about how business news gets made, subscribe for more sessions and episodes from Media Summit on all podcast streaming platforms.

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4 months ago
18 minutes 5 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
Venture Reporting with Financial Times and The Information at Media Summit | SF 2025

Moderator Sally Shin sits down with Natasha Mascarenhas (The Information) and George Hammond (Financial Times) to unpack mega funds, the AI frenzy, rollups and secondaries, the rise of VC podcasts, and exactly what it takes for a smaller company to earn real coverage. We get practical about sourcing, exclusives, tension, speed vs accuracy, and why “going direct” often backfires.


What we cover:

  • The big theme in VC now: mega funds, AI, and the exit drought
  • Emerging managers, smaller consistent fund sizes, and new VC products
  • How reporters actually pick stories and source scoops
  • What turns a small round into a story: exclusivity, tension, and clear “what’s different”
  • VC podcasts as a media strategy and how journalism adapts
  • Independents vs newsrooms: speed, checks, and updates
  • Collaborating across AI and VC beats to cover mega AI companies
  • Rollups, continuation funds, secondaries, and the bifurcation of VC
  • Preempting negative press, public call logs and DMs, and a more combative climate
  • IPO window sentiment in plain English


Chapters:

00:00 Intro and panel setup

00:00:27 What is the big theme in VC right now

00:01:27 AI boom meets exit drought and mega funds

00:02:13 Emerging managers and fundraising cracks

00:02:54 Getting GPs to talk when times are tough

00:03:41 What VC is getting wrong; smaller funds and new products

00:04:23 Are VC podcasts strategy or ego

00:04:49 How journalism adapts to the podcast era

00:05:39 How startups get coverage from The Information and FT

00:06:13 The Information’s bar: exclusivity, bigger theme, real tension

00:07:25 The FT’s lens: audience, geography, and exclusives

00:08:27 Moonshot AI teams and why they get covered

00:08:46 How stories are sourced; embargoes, tips, relationships

00:09:26 Slow burns and when small rounds become big stories

00:10:04 Independents vs newsrooms; speed and checks

00:11:32 Covering mega AI companies across beats

00:12:58 Mega funds, rollups, and a bifurcated VC model

00:14:32 Reinventing VC: spin outs, secondaries, business model shifts

00:15:47 Keeping up with direct channels and why journalism still matters

00:17:29 The power shift and access challenges

00:18:35 Going direct when you have nothing new to say

00:19:36 Preempting negative press and why it can amplify

00:20:11 When calls and DMs go public

00:20:50 A more combative climate and the job of ethical reporting

00:21:32 Is the IPO window open yet

00:22:06 Closing and thanks


If you found this helpful, subscribe for more conversations at the intersection of venture, media, and the AI economy.

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5 months ago
23 minutes 18 seconds

Media Summit Podcast
We’re bringing together the world's top journalists, editors, and media professionals to explore the craft and business of journalism—along with its evolving relationship to the economy, tech, and venture capital. Investors, journalists, founders, communications professionals, and others interested in the world of business news should apply to attend this invite-only event.