In the first episode singer Joost Vervoort of Dutch black metal band Terzij De Horde speaks with Tonnie aka Broeder Dieleman. He shares his perspectives on bringing the past, present and the future together in a time of rising fascism.

How does Tonnie see the importance of myth making from a regional perspective? How does he see the role of spirituality in fighting for a better world? What are the roles of anger, sadness, absurdity and playlulness? And shifting to the musical side - what is it like for him to perform alongside metal/hardcore/postcore bands, both at this show and in his collaboration with Colin van Eeckhout in Amen Ra.

Tonnie Dieleman will perform at Terzij de Horde's vinyl release show, December 6th at TivoliVredenburg. Tickets: https://www.tivolivedenburg.nl/agenda/54467034/terzij-de-horde-06-12-2025

Host: Joost Vervoort

Guest: Broeder Dieleman

Art by Christian Degn, design by Mirko Meerwaldt