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Pair of Kings

Pair of Kings

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Did Rick Owens really design leather jackets for Ghost of Mars? Is Timothee Chalamet running the exact same PR playbook as Jack Harlow? What the hell is Goouch, and can a goose be a Muppet? Sol and Michael are back! They sit down to break down Rick Owens' early Hollywood costume design work (Ghost of Mars, Tank Girl, Otto; or Up with Dead People), the sock-heel technique that created the iconic pagoda shoulders, and Bailey Goldberg's knitwear producers. The pair then dives into the Timothee C...

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Did Rick Owens really design leather jackets for Ghost of Mars? Is Timothee Chalamet running the exact same PR playbook as Jack Harlow? What the hell is Goouch, and can a goose be a Muppet? Sol and Michael are back! They sit down to break down Rick Owens' early Hollywood costume design work (Ghost of Mars, Tank Girl, Otto; or Up with Dead People), the sock-heel technique that created the iconic pagoda shoulders, and Bailey Goldberg's knitwear producers. The pair then dives into the Timothee C...

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Rare Rick Owens Jackets, the Marty Supreme Jacket PR Machine, and the Muppets | 13.13

Did Rick Owens really design leather jackets for Ghost of Mars? Is Timothee Chalamet running the exact same PR playbook as Jack Harlow? What the hell is Goouch, and can a goose be a Muppet? Sol and Michael are back! They sit down to break down Rick Owens' early Hollywood costume design work (Ghost of Mars, Tank Girl, Otto; or Up with Dead People), the sock-heel technique that created the iconic pagoda shoulders, and Bailey Goldberg's knitwear producers. The pair then dives into the Timothee C...

3 days ago

1 hour 38 minutes

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Avery Trufelman on Why We Wear Military Clothes, M-65 Field Jackets, and how Military Surplus Shaped Modern Fashion History | 13.12

Where does your field jacket actually come from? Were WWII soldiers the original hypebeasts? What is the M-43 jacket? Sol and Michael sit down with Avery Trufelman, host of Articles of Interest and 99% Invisible veteran, to break down the military origins of menswear and why everyone's suddenly obsessed with gorpcore. The trio dive deep into the history of the M-65 field jacket, how World War II military surplus shaped American fashion, the invention of layering (yes, someone had to inv...

2 weeks ago

1 hour 24 minutes

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Men's Skincare Routines, Chrome Hearts Jewelry, and Trying to Buy the Sauce | 13.11

Is that Chrome Hearts real or fake? Should guys actually use skincare? Why are "stylists" wearing head-to-toe counterfeit on the subway? Sol and Michael are back for a boys episode as they chat about spotting fake Chrome Hearts (and why people can't dress when they wear fakes), the perfume habits of Albanian men in the club, men's skincare routines that actually work (CeraVe, The Ordinary, La Roche-Posay) from an unsponsored viewpoint, men's skincare mistakes (and why Neutrogena face wash is ...

3 weeks ago

1 hour 32 minutes

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Mandy Lee (@oldloserinbrooklyn) on 2026 Fashion Trend Predictions, Freaky Shoes, and Embodying the Old Loser in Brooklyn | 13.10

Who were the best designers of Paris Fashion Week 2025? Sol and Michael are talking the future of fashion this week! The duo sit down with Mandy Lee (aka oldloserinbrooklyn) to chat about fashion trend forecasting before TikTok existed (and TikTok fashion trends), microtrends vs macro trends (and why everyone's obsessed with ranking them), the Simone Rocha bride aesthetic, designer fashion show debuts in 2025, what it's really like being a Gen Z fashion influencer, how TikTok changed fashion ...

1 month ago

1 hour 33 minutes

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Glenn Martens' Margiela, Balenciaga Hoodies, Hedi Slimane Jeans, and How Sweatshirts Changed Forever | 13.9

Is Glenn Martens a good designer? Who owns Maison Margiela (and thus, controls the brand)? Are Margiela gats, futures, tabis, and shoes enough to carry a designer through their tenure? Join Michael and Sol as they chat about what it means to be a designer in 2025, Maison Margiela shoes, John Galliano, Martin Margiela, Hedi Slimane Jeans, Saint Laurent's rebrand (why did YSL change to SLP), mm6 (and the connotations of the line), Margiela's Line 2, Vetements Hoodies (and how to legit che...

1 month ago

1 hour 14 minutes

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Dr. Sonya Abrego (@sonyaabrego) on Men's Westernwear, The History of American Denim, and Where to Buy Vintage Jeans | 13.8

Where DO you find the best vintage jeans? This week, Dr. Sonya Abrego, the world's preeminent Westernwear historian joins Sol and Michael to talk about vintage jeans, American-made denim, the Cone Mills Corporation, Lee Jeans (and why pocket designs matter!), what IS selvedge denim, (and what is raw denim), her greatest finds from her days as a picker, the modern landscape of denim, how to date levis, what is so special about raw denim (especially if it's made in the US), some myths about den...

1 month ago

1 hour 15 minutes

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13.7 - The Rick Owens Retrospective, Stone Island and CP Company's Fabric Development, and Modern Italian Fashion

You could hear episode early and get access to our Rick Owens "Temple of Love" Giveaway by subscribing to our HeroHero! Michael's back! Michael's back! Sit down as Sol catches up with his work husband and chat about Rick Owens, Helmut Lang, Stone Island, CP Company, Balenciaga, Adidas, Italian fashion, the downfall of tourism, Issey Miyake shirts, Margiela, Margiela Couture, Glenn Martens, Off-White hoodies, the now-defunct Pyrex vision, Virgil Abloh, LL Bean and Eddie Bauer, popular f...

2 months ago

1 hour 23 minutes

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13.6 - International Tours, Object Permanence, and How to Win at Solitaire with Sophia Stel (@insignificantfunds)

You could hear episodes early and get access to all of our giveaways on our HeroHero! It's with great pleasure that I announce this week's episode with Sophia Stel, the artist/producer/singer/songwriter behind not one, but two of the year's best EPs: Object Permanence and How to Win at Solitaire. Tune in as Sol and Michael chat with Sophia about her soon-to-be international tour, finding and working with "anime baddie" opener ilykimchi, living life without a phone, thrifting in New York City,...

2 months ago

1 hour 15 minutes

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13.5 - Rating and Reviewing Every Paris Fashion Week Debut with Sol (@ellaemhoff) and Michael (@hot_vodkaa)

This episode has a $250 ESSX Giveaway! All HeroHero subscribers are automatically entered. The boys are back for a totally normal, definitely-nothing-amiss episode. Join Sol and Michael as they cover all of the recent runway debuts of Paris (J.W. Anderson's Dior, Pierpaolo Piccioli's Balenciaga, Louise Trotter's Bottega Veneta, Duran Latnik's Jean Paul Gaultier, Mathieu Blazy's Chanel, Ann Demeulemeester, Alexander McQueen, Glenn Martens' Maison Margiela, Miguel Frietas' Mugler, Loewe) and ch...

2 months ago

1 hour 15 minutes

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13.4 - Inventing Health Goths (not a joke), Partying in New York Fashion Week, and Professional Basketball with Caitlin Cunningham (@caitlepillar)

You could have heard this episode early and had access to our $250 Komune Giveaway on our HeroHero! That title isn't a joke, everyone! This week, instagram.com/_smithstagram and instagram.com/solthompson sit down with their new friend, instagram.com/caitlepillar (also known as Caitle, Caitlin Dark, Cait, or the progenitor of the health goth movement) to chat about their professional basketball career, what it was like to hang with Anna Delvey, Australia's fashion scene, *potentially* walking ...

3 months ago

1 hour 22 minutes

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13.3 - How We Fix the Fashion Industry, NYFW Notes, and the Friends of Pair of Kings Live Show!

Get early access to episodes and automatic entry into our giveaways when you subscribe to our HeroHero! Michael and Sol report live from their Komune popup, full of a live studio audience! Tune in as the boys talk about the highlights and lowlights from New York Fashion Week, why calling brands "emerging" isn't only a misnomer but deeply offensive, how to be #26andtappedin, the lack of quality menswear in New York, comic books, Matt Mercer, perfumery, hatmaking, what it's like to run a popup,...

3 months ago

1 hour 22 minutes

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13.2 - Why Shit Not Working and How Do We Fix New York City with Chi Ossé (@chiosse)

You can hear episodes early and get access to our weekly giveaways on HeroHero! The glaring issues of the greatest city in the world (New York) frustrate the Pair of Kings: little access to trains, high costs of living, improper addressing of the upper class' disparate tax burden... the list goes on. How can we change any of this? What can we do? This week, Sol and Michael bring New York City's District 36 Councilman, Chi Ossé on to the pod to chat Why Shit Not Working, how we can fix the cit...

3 months ago

1 hour 19 minutes

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13.1 — Our Upcoming Popup, the Lower East Side Fashion Scene Update, and Sol's Shopping Mega-List

Hi everyone! After a very long wait, we're back with a new season of the podcast! Tune in as the boys talk about the upcoming Friends of PoK popup (September 26th-28th at Komune) featuring designers NEVER BEFORE SEEN IN NEW YORK like Lac Demure, Ives Barrera, Bailey Goldberg, Perfume Making Co., Kozaburo, Jordan Arthur Smith, and so many more! Sol and Michael also discuss the changing landscape of the Lower East Side (uh oh!) and the mega-list that covers literally EVERY fashion stop in the n...

3 months ago

1 hour 28 minutes

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12.21 - The Great Big Berlin Fashion Week Wrap-Up

You can enter into all of our giveaways (including the one on this episode) and get early access to episodes at our HeroHero Michael's back from Berlin and telling Sol (and the listeners) about his experience with Berlin Fashion Week - the hottest, best run, and most interesting up-and-coming fashion week in the post-COVID era. Tune in to hear about Michael's picks for the best and brightest designers and some of his favorite shows: the duo chat about SF1OG, Balletshofer, Milk of Lime, and o...

5 months ago

1 hour 44 minutes

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12.20 - The Best Brands You've Never Heard Of

We're giving away a beautiful AV Beamon jacket on our HeroHero to celebrate the episode: subscribe to support the show, enter into the giveaway and get early access to episodes! Sol spent a ton of time on a Substack article called Hometown Heroes; join Michael and Sol as they sit down and discuss a selection of amazing brands from around the world (including Isabella Charles, Empath LA, and Ulysse Poulin, to name a few), up-and-coming music act Sophia Stel, why Zegna suits cost >$10,000 bu...

6 months ago

1 hour 24 minutes

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12.19 - Discovering the Lost Art of Tailoring with Chloe Boxer (@chl0e.box)

You could hear episodes early, get access to all of our giveaways, and more over on HeroHero! Subscribe and support the show! This week, Sol and Michael sit down with on-set tailor and clothing wizard Chloe Boxer to learn about her practice, work, and about her takes on clothing in general! Join the trio as they chart Chloe's introduction to and growth in the fashion world, historic clothing trends, her senior thesis (where she proved that a certain item of clothing was completely misinterpre...

6 months ago

1 hour 38 minutes

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12.18 - How New EU Regulations Stand to Change Fashion

To enter into all of our giveaways (including this episode's!), get access to exclusive episodes, and to hear episodes early, subscribe to our HeroHero! Wow! We're doing policy analysis? Sol's putting his degree to use? Michael's talking about some of the craziest reproductions of vintage clothing? What the heck? A podcast with heavy, heavy research? What's going on? Tune in to hear the duo talk about ESPR, tariff laws, fast fashion, medium-enterprise end-of-life adjustments, fabric responsib...

6 months ago

1 hour 40 minutes

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12.17 - How to Host a Perfect Runway Show, The Horribly Dressed Men of New York, and The Photographer-to-Influencer Pipeline with Tanya Ravichandran (@tanyar)

You can hear episodes early and get access to all of our giveaways for only $4 on HeroHero! Go support the show! We're back this week with our wonderful friend Tanya Ravichandran! Join Michael and Sol as they discuss the incredible team at Coach, Tanya's love for Ann D., how to host the perfect runway show, why all the guys in New York dress like shit, making the Margiela 5 Zip Exodia, Lee Alexander McQueen, some grails still eluding her collection, her wonderful boyfriend Roman's style, gett...

7 months ago

1 hour 28 minutes

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12.16 (HeroHero Preview) - Reviewing Every Single Outfit From the 2025 Met Gala (Superfine: Tailoring Black Style)

To listen to the full episode and to be automatically entered into this episode's giveaway, subscribe to the HeroHero! It's time for Michael and Sol's favorite yearly tradition: talking shit on the celebrities who spend thousands of dollars to walk the red carpet at the largest event in fashion! Join the duo as they talk about the best (no spoilers, but it rhymes with Mom Crown) and the worst (no spoilers, but it's (not) shockingly a white girl in a durag) of the night, chat about what makes ...

7 months ago

13 minutes

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12.15 - River Fashion, Sol's Life Changing Experience, and Everything You Missed in April

You could have heard this episode early and had access to giveaways on our HeroHero: https://herohero.co/pok The title isn't hyperbole: Sol's back from the wilderness! Join the intrepid duo of Sol and Michael as they discuss Kanye West somehow proving that yes, you can always lose your mind just a little bit more, the Pope dying, what gorpcore's cooler older brother looks like, some slept-on outdoor brands, a horrible new beard, how the hell you dress for the longest river trip in the world (...

7 months ago

1 hour 22 minutes