Episode Summary
This episode continues the conversation with Bill McCann, founder of Dancing Dots, exploring the pivotal moments that shaped his success as a blind entrepreneur. Bill recounts the nerve-wracking scramble of submitting a major grant during a snowstorm—an event that ultimately became a turning point for the company.
He shares the organic evolution of forming Dancing Dots, from learning business skills out of necessity to building a small but powerful team of collaborators, including his longtime colleague Albert and talented musicians like Matthew Whitaker. Bill explains how humility, resourcefulness, and knowing when to ask for help have been essential parts of entrepreneurship—especially as a blind business owner.
Bill also speaks candidly about balancing artistry with practicality: how blind musicians can fit music into their lives, why passion must be paired with a plan for sustainability, and the importance of keeping creativity alive even if music isn’t a primary income source.
The episode closes with a full overview of Dancing Dots’ products, training services, and Braille music resources—plus where listeners can go to learn more or get hands-on support.
Contact Info
Guest / Organization
Bill McCann — Founder, Dancing Dots
Website: https://www.dancingdots.com
Services: Braille music production, accessible notation software, Reaper/Logic/Pro Tools training, 30-minute consultation for audio accessibility, Braille music courses, temporary software trials.
Aftersight & Penny Forward
Penny Forward
Website: https://www.pennyforward.com
Phone: 888-332-5558
Services: Accessible financial education, business plan consulting, workshops, online courses, 1:1 financial counseling.
Aftersight (distribution partner)
Website: https://www.aftersight.org
Producer Credits
Produced by Chris Peterson and Liz Bottner
Audio editing & post-production by Jonathan Price
Music composed/performed by Andre Louis
Distributed in partnership with Aftersight
Chapter Markers
00:00 – Opening & Episode Setup
00:30 – Bill’s biggest early business scare
02:20 – The FedEx snowstorm story
04:15 – Relief, success, and key turning points
05:00 – How Dancing Dots organically formed
06:30 – Learning business skills without business school
07:55 – Finding collaborators & unexpected help
10:30 – Running a micro-business as a blind founder
13:00 – Humility, asking for help, and resourcefulness
15:20 – Creativity vs. structure: the balance of entrepreneurship
17:00 – Advice for blind musicians
19:45 – Fitting music into a sustainable life plan
22:20 – The state of the music industry
23:55 – Keeping creativity alive
24:50 – Dancing Dots services & training
25:40 – How to contact Bill
26:10 – Penny Forward services
27:00 – Closing credits
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Episode Summary
This episode continues the conversation with Bill McCann, founder of Dancing Dots, exploring the pivotal moments that shaped his success as a blind entrepreneur. Bill recounts the nerve-wracking scramble of submitting a major grant during a snowstorm—an event that ultimately became a turning point for the company.
He shares the organic evolution of forming Dancing Dots, from learning business skills out of necessity to building a small but powerful team of collaborators, including his longtime colleague Albert and talented musicians like Matthew Whitaker. Bill explains how humility, resourcefulness, and knowing when to ask for help have been essential parts of entrepreneurship—especially as a blind business owner.
Bill also speaks candidly about balancing artistry with practicality: how blind musicians can fit music into their lives, why passion must be paired with a plan for sustainability, and the importance of keeping creativity alive even if music isn’t a primary income source.
The episode closes with a full overview of Dancing Dots’ products, training services, and Braille music resources—plus where listeners can go to learn more or get hands-on support.
Contact Info
Guest / Organization
Bill McCann — Founder, Dancing Dots
Website: https://www.dancingdots.com
Services: Braille music production, accessible notation software, Reaper/Logic/Pro Tools training, 30-minute consultation for audio accessibility, Braille music courses, temporary software trials.
Aftersight & Penny Forward
Penny Forward
Website: https://www.pennyforward.com
Phone: 888-332-5558
Services: Accessible financial education, business plan consulting, workshops, online courses, 1:1 financial counseling.
Aftersight (distribution partner)
Website: https://www.aftersight.org
Producer Credits
Produced by Chris Peterson and Liz Bottner
Audio editing & post-production by Jonathan Price
Music composed/performed by Andre Louis
Distributed in partnership with Aftersight
Chapter Markers
00:00 – Opening & Episode Setup
00:30 – Bill’s biggest early business scare
02:20 – The FedEx snowstorm story
04:15 – Relief, success, and key turning points
05:00 – How Dancing Dots organically formed
06:30 – Learning business skills without business school
07:55 – Finding collaborators & unexpected help
10:30 – Running a micro-business as a blind founder
13:00 – Humility, asking for help, and resourcefulness
15:20 – Creativity vs. structure: the balance of entrepreneurship
17:00 – Advice for blind musicians
19:45 – Fitting music into a sustainable life plan
22:20 – The state of the music industry
23:55 – Keeping creativity alive
24:50 – Dancing Dots services & training
25:40 – How to contact Bill
26:10 – Penny Forward services
27:00 – Closing credits
One Score at a Time: Bill McCann & the Story of Dancing Dots (Part 1)
Penny Forward
24 minutes
1 month ago
One Score at a Time: Bill McCann & the Story of Dancing Dots (Part 1)
Episode Summary
This episode of the Penny Forward Podcast features Bill McCann, founder of Dancing Dots, in a deep and engaging conversation about accessible music creation for blind and low-vision musicians. Bill shares his personal journey—from learning Braille music as a child to struggling through inaccessible print scores in high school and college—and how this lived experience inspired the creation of Dancing Dots in 1992.
Chris and Liz explore the origin story of Goodfeel, the Braille music translation software now used in more than 50 countries, and how Bill’s team expanded into tools like Lime, Lime Lighter, and accessible digital audio workstation training. Bill explains the challenges low-vision musicians face when trying to read standard scores, why simple magnification isn’t enough, and how Lime Lighter solves the problem with large-format, customizable, repeat-aware digital notation. The episode also features a humorous radio spot voiced by Patrick Perdue that demonstrates the real-world stakes of inaccessible print music—especially for trombone players.
The conversation concludes with the announcement that the discussion will continue in Part 2.
Contact Info
Guest — Bill McCann / Dancing Dots
Website: https://www.dancingdots.com
Email (general): info@dancingdots.com
Penny Forward
Website: https://www.pennyforward.com
Email: info@pennyforward.com
Aftersight
Website: https://www.aftersight.org
Email for guests & inquiries: jonathan@aftersight.org
Phone: (720) 712-8856
Producer: Jonathan Price, Podcast & Program Producer at Aftersight
Show Credits
Hosts: Chris Peterson & Liz Bottner
Guest: Bill McCann
Audio Editing & Post-Production: Jonathan Price
Composer: André Louis
Distributed in partnership with Aftersight
A Penny Forward production
Chapter Markers
00:00 — Opening & Introductions
00:34 — Meet Bill McCann
01:20 — Discovering Music & Braille
02:28 — Early Challenges Accessing Scores
03:55 — High School & College Music Demands
05:22 — The Birth of Dancing Dots
09:10 — Building Goodfeel
11:20 — Lime, Lime Lighter & Accessible Tools
16:24 — Audio Production & Reaper Training
18:10 — Lime Lighter Radio Spot
20:15 — Why Magnification Isn’t Simple
22:45 — Tailoring Tools for Low Vision Needs
25:02 — Closing & Part Two Teaser
Penny Forward
Episode Summary
This episode continues the conversation with Bill McCann, founder of Dancing Dots, exploring the pivotal moments that shaped his success as a blind entrepreneur. Bill recounts the nerve-wracking scramble of submitting a major grant during a snowstorm—an event that ultimately became a turning point for the company.
He shares the organic evolution of forming Dancing Dots, from learning business skills out of necessity to building a small but powerful team of collaborators, including his longtime colleague Albert and talented musicians like Matthew Whitaker. Bill explains how humility, resourcefulness, and knowing when to ask for help have been essential parts of entrepreneurship—especially as a blind business owner.
Bill also speaks candidly about balancing artistry with practicality: how blind musicians can fit music into their lives, why passion must be paired with a plan for sustainability, and the importance of keeping creativity alive even if music isn’t a primary income source.
The episode closes with a full overview of Dancing Dots’ products, training services, and Braille music resources—plus where listeners can go to learn more or get hands-on support.
Contact Info
Guest / Organization
Bill McCann — Founder, Dancing Dots
Website: https://www.dancingdots.com
Services: Braille music production, accessible notation software, Reaper/Logic/Pro Tools training, 30-minute consultation for audio accessibility, Braille music courses, temporary software trials.
Aftersight & Penny Forward
Penny Forward
Website: https://www.pennyforward.com
Phone: 888-332-5558
Services: Accessible financial education, business plan consulting, workshops, online courses, 1:1 financial counseling.
Aftersight (distribution partner)
Website: https://www.aftersight.org
Producer Credits
Produced by Chris Peterson and Liz Bottner
Audio editing & post-production by Jonathan Price
Music composed/performed by Andre Louis
Distributed in partnership with Aftersight
Chapter Markers
00:00 – Opening & Episode Setup
00:30 – Bill’s biggest early business scare
02:20 – The FedEx snowstorm story
04:15 – Relief, success, and key turning points
05:00 – How Dancing Dots organically formed
06:30 – Learning business skills without business school
07:55 – Finding collaborators & unexpected help
10:30 – Running a micro-business as a blind founder
13:00 – Humility, asking for help, and resourcefulness
15:20 – Creativity vs. structure: the balance of entrepreneurship
17:00 – Advice for blind musicians
19:45 – Fitting music into a sustainable life plan
22:20 – The state of the music industry
23:55 – Keeping creativity alive
24:50 – Dancing Dots services & training
25:40 – How to contact Bill
26:10 – Penny Forward services
27:00 – Closing credits