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People in Legal
People in Legal, Chantal McNaught, David Woolstencroft
78 episodes
6 days ago
“People in Legal: Stories and Insights from the Human Side of the Legal Tech Industry." Join us as we explore the personal journeys, challenges, and triumphs of professionals in law, legal tech, education, and academia. Each episode features candid conversations with industry experts, sharing their unique career paths and growth stories. We'll uncover tales of resilience, mentorship, ethical dilemmas, and career-defining moments. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just curious about the field, “People in Legal” offers inspiration and insights for everyone.
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“People in Legal: Stories and Insights from the Human Side of the Legal Tech Industry." Join us as we explore the personal journeys, challenges, and triumphs of professionals in law, legal tech, education, and academia. Each episode features candid conversations with industry experts, sharing their unique career paths and growth stories. We'll uncover tales of resilience, mentorship, ethical dilemmas, and career-defining moments. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just curious about the field, “People in Legal” offers inspiration and insights for everyone.
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People in Legal
INSPIRE 2025 - Dan Hauck

In this conversation, Dan discusses the latest innovations at NetDocuments, focusing on AI enhancements in document management, including semantic search capabilities, the introduction of MD Connect for third-party integrations, and the future roadmap for collaboration tools. The discussion highlights how these advancements are transforming workflows in law firms and improving client service.


Chapters

00:00Introduction and Overview of NetDocuments' Innovations

02:48AI Advancements in Document Management

05:43Semantic Search and User Experience

08:22MD Connect: Enhancing Workflow Integration

10:48AI Profiling and Client Service Improvements

13:48Future Roadmap and Collaboration Tools

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2 days ago
15 minutes 27 seconds

People in Legal
The Legal Universe, AI, and Keeping Calm Under Pressure

In this special episode of the People in Legal – Law and Beyond Podcast, host Chantal McNaught sits down with her friend and future lawyer Rhonda McGrath for an unfiltered conversation about life at the intersection of law, technology, and learning.

From stumbling into a career in legal tech to grappling with trust accounting, Rhonda shares her candid experiences as a law student, her insights into AI’s role in the legal profession, and why lawyers need to stay mindful of over-relying on technology.

Together, Chantal and Rhonda unpack:

  • How “lizard brain mode” shows up in legal practice 👀
  • Why legal tech can be both intimidating and empowering 💻
  • The ethics and risks of AI in law ⚖️
  • The importance of slowing down, thinking critically, and finding balance 🌱
  • Plus, a fun segment on irrational fears

👉 Whether you’re a lawyer, law student, or just curious about the real human side of the legal profession, this episode offers honesty, laughs, and practical takeaways.

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1 week ago
32 minutes 8 seconds

People in Legal
The Lawyer–Technologist: Yule Guttenbeil on Scaling Smarter, Not Harder

What happens when a commercial lawyer stops trying to "look like a lawyer" and starts building the future of the legal industry instead?

In this episode, we’re hanging out with Yule Guttenbeil—the award-winning principal of Attune Legal and a self-described "multi-entrepreneur." Yule isn't just practising law, he’s building communities, coworking spaces, and software platforms using something called "Vibe Coding."

In this episode, we’re diving into:

🤖 The "Vibe Coding" Revolution: How Yule is building custom software for the Lex Nova Guild without being a "coder" (and why you can do it too).

⛏️ Following the Frustration: Why your biggest daily annoyances are actually a roadmap for your next big system or tech tool.

🤵 Shedding the "Big Law" Skin: Why the suit and the facade might be holding your solo practice back from finding its true tribe.

💸 Decoupling Time from Value: Why Yule thinks billing by the hour is "grotesque" and how he’s flipped the script to focus on results instead of the clock.

🏋️ The Powerlifting Connection: A reminder that lawyers are whole people with lives, hobbies, and gym memberships outside of the office.

👉 Whether you’re a solo practitioner feeling the "lonely" part of the job, or a tech-curious lawyer wondering if AI can actually build your dream app, Yule’s insights will help you work smarter, think bigger, and finally clear that inbox.

Stick around for the bonus segment (this will be published later!): We’ve carved out a special deep-dive where Yule explains the exact platform he’s building and how "vibe coding" actually works in the real world.

Connect with the Show:

  • Host: Chantal McNaught (Author of the Fully Automated Luxury Lawyer newsletter)
  • Guest: Yule Guttenbeil (Attune Legal / Lex Nova Guild)

Don't be a stranger! If you enjoyed this trip into the expanding legal universe, leave us a review. It helps other legal rebels find the show. 🚀

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2 weeks ago
33 minutes 9 seconds

People in Legal
Law Beyond the Black Box: Mona Chiha on Fair, Transparent AI

In this episode of the People in Legal podcast, host Chantal McNaught speaks with Mona Chiha, a pioneer in legal technology and the founder of JurisTechni.


Mona shares her journey from finance to law, her passion for creating ethical AI solutions, and her commitment to making justice accessible and transparent. The conversation explores the importance of explainable AI in the legal field, the challenges of litigation funding, and the impact of community-driven initiatives. Mona's inspiring story emphasises the power of individual contributions to create positive change in the world.


Takeaways


👉 You can't do everything, but every small action counts.

👉 Mona's journey reflects the intersection of law and technology.

👉 Ethical AI is crucial for the future of legal tech.

👉 Community support is essential for making a difference.

👉 Regulation is key to creating safe technologies.

👉 Explainable AI can transform how legal decisions are made.

👉 Empowering lawyers with technology enhances their advocacy.

👉 Philanthropy can come from anyone, not just the wealthy.

👉 Building a business requires collaboration and support.

👉 Ethics should be integrated into every aspect of technology.


Mona’s story is one of vision fused with humanity — from raising four children while pursuing groundbreaking research, to inspiring the next generation of women in STEM.

Whether you’re in law, academia, or technology, this conversation will challenge how you think about justice in a digital age.

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3 weeks ago
33 minutes 35 seconds

People in Legal
From Paginators to AI: Angus Murray on the Future of Law

Angus Murray joins host Chantal McNaught to explore what it really means to practice law in a world of rapid technological change, AI tools, and growing pressure to treat law as a business first and a profession second.

From a childhood conversation with his grandmother in England to a Masters in Stockholm and a career at the intersection of technology, privacy and human rights, Angus shares how his path in law has always come back to one theme: keeping humans at the centre. He and Chantal delve into why some of the “boring” aspects of legal work still matter, how AI can both support and undermine good legal practice, and why the profession overlooks early career development at its peril.

In this episode, we discuss:
👉 How Angus built a career across practice, technology, human rights and academia
👉 Why law must remain human centred, even as AI tools spread
👉 The tension between law as a profession and law as a business
👉 The paginator story. what old tech can teach us about new tools
👉 Why slow, careful work is still an ethical advantage in law
👉 AI “hallucinations”, headnotes and the danger of outsourcing thinking
👉 How cutting junior roles for AI might hollow out future legal skills
👉 What really counts as a “legal service”, and how that may evolve
👉 The importance of humility. lawyers as servants to a justice system and to society


If you enjoy this episode of Law and Beyond on the People in Legal podcast, please follow or subscribe in your podcast app and consider leaving a rating or review. It helps others in the legal and tech community find the show.

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1 month ago
26 minutes 33 seconds

People in Legal
Start Small and Succeed Big with AI Adoption Practices - Law and Beyond with Karrina Mountfort

In this episode of The Law and Beyond Show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with Karrina Mountfort, founder of Webbased AI and The AI Assembly, to explore how AI can transform businesses while keeping people and processes at the core.


Karina shares her journey from decades in tech innovation to building a supportive AI hub in New Zealand, dedicated to helping individuals and SMEs adopt technology with confidence.


Together they discuss:

  • Why AI adoption succeeds or fails
  • The importance of starting small and including people in the journey
  • Key principles around privacy, risk, and accountability in professional services
  • How focusing on processes before tools prevents wasted investment
  • Why the future of AI is about giving people back their time and letting them do what they trained for


Disclosure: This episode was brought to you by the generosity of The AI Assembly. Without partners like The AI Assembly, we would not be able to produce this content for listeners. In the development of this episode, we have retained full editorial control.  


Who should listen: Lawyers, compliance professionals, educators, and leaders curious about AI’s role in shaping sustainable and human-centered businesses.


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1 month ago
28 minutes 4 seconds

People in Legal
Every Firm Needs an Engineer: Ashley Kelso on People, Process, Technology

In this episode of the Law and Beyond Show, Chantal McNaught interviews Ashley Kelso, a mechatronics engineer turned lawyer and legal tech entrepreneur. Ashley will take you on his unique journey from engineering to law, the importance of an engineering mindset in legal practice, and the challenges of adopting technology in the legal field. The conversation also touches on ethics in decision-making, collaboration in law, and advice for those looking to innovate in LegalTech.


Chantal and Ash unpack:

  • What motivated Ash to transition from engineering to law due to career stagnation in engineering.
  • Engineers often have a holistic approach that can benefit legal practice.
  • Communication issues often lead to project failures in engineering and law.
  • Ethics is a crucial part of decision-making in law.
  • Law should be treated as a team sport for better outcomes.
  • Technology adoption in law firms is often slow and cautious.
  • Legal tech should be seen as an investment, not just a cost.
  • Point solutions in LegalTech require less behaviour change from users than system solutions like practice management software.
  • Understanding the self-interest of decision-makers is key for engineers.
  • Simplicity and iteration are important in tech development.


Useful Links:

  • More about Ash's company, HiveLight
  • Goodreads: Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman
  • Goodreads: Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap... and Others Don't by Jim Collins
  • Goodreads: The Courage to Be Disliked: A single book can change your life by Ichiro Kishimi | Goodreads

The PwC information barrier controversy was a situation where the consulting company were briefing the Australian Taxation Office about taxation legislation and at the same time providing private client advice on the upcoming changes. More about this can be read from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation here.

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1 month ago
30 minutes 4 seconds

People in Legal
From Talk to Action: Inside ALPMA’s Changing Legal Landscape with Carl Olson

Host Chantal McNaught talks with Dye & Durham’s APAC MD, Carl Olson, about ALPMA’s Changing Legal Landscape report. They discuss the near-ubiquitous AI trial among practitioners, widening governance gaps, the sharp rise in wellbeing initiatives, and the real psychological load of cybersecurity incidents. Carl outlines what forward-facing firms are actually doing: holistic programmes that blend policy, process, capability-building, and technology. The conversation also challenges assumptions about flexible work and the four-day week, and why the best research often leaves us with more questions than tidy answers.


Carl and Chantal reveal:

  • The scope of the report and the importance of this research.
  • Wellbeing momentum and clear implementation gaps. 
  • Generative AI adoption and where firms are looking to improve on governance.
  • Challenging the stereotype that lawyers are slow adopters.
  • Cybersecurity priorities and the cost of hypervigilance and leadership stress.
  • What leading firms do through holistic transformation. 
  • Carl's favourite song. 


Links

  • Deep dive into the research discussed from the Changing Legal Landscape Report
  • More information about the Australasian Law Practice Managers Association (ALPMA) is available here: https://www.alpma.com.au/research/ 
  • Here is the Cyber Security Emotional Wellness Checklist by Professor Liz Howard mentioned on the show.



Disclosure: This episode was brought to you by the generosity of Dye & Durham APAC. Without partners like Dye & Durham, we would not be able to produce this content for listeners. In the development of this episode, we have retained full editorial control.  


Correction: Carl described a cyber security incident occurring from the New South Wales "Reconstruction Agency". The incident involved the New South Wales Reconstruction Authority and that was a data breach. More about this data breach can be read here.

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1 month ago
30 minutes 40 seconds

People in Legal
Legal research, LPM, and AI — finally unified

𝗛𝗼𝘄 𝗱𝗼 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗯𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗼𝗴𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗽𝗿𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗮𝗴𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁, 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗵, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗔𝗜 — 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝗶𝘁 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸 𝗮𝘁 𝗴𝗹𝗼𝗯𝗮𝗹 𝘀𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗲?


At 𝗖𝗹𝗶𝗼 𝗜𝗻𝗻𝗼𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗟𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱 𝗦𝘆𝗱𝗻𝗲𝘆, we spoke with Ronnie Gurion, COO of Clio, about the company’s next chapter — one shaped by bold acquisitions, AI innovation, and an unwavering focus on culture.


💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀:

👉 The vLex acquisition brings the world’s largest legal research database and AI assistant (Vincent AI) into Clio’s ecosystem.


👉 𝗖𝗹𝗶𝗼 𝗪𝗼𝗿𝗸 combines practice management, legal research, and AI-powered insights into one unified experience.


👉 The launch of 𝗖𝗹𝗶𝗼 𝗘𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗽𝗿𝗶𝘀𝗲 signals a strong push into the large-firm and in-house counsel market.


👉 Despite rapid growth, Clio’s foundation remains its 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗼𝗻𝗴, 𝗺𝗶𝘀𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻-𝗱𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗻 𝗰𝘂𝗹𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲 — one that prizes alignment, integrity, and collaboration.


Ronnie summed it up best: “𝙒𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙣𝙚𝙖𝙧𝙡𝙮 500 𝙚𝙣𝙜𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙚𝙧𝙨 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙙𝙪𝙘𝙩 𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙙𝙚𝙧𝙨 𝙖𝙩 𝘾𝙡𝙞𝙤, 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙨𝙠𝙮’𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙢𝙞𝙩 — 𝙗𝙪𝙩 𝙞𝙩 𝙖𝙡𝙡 𝙨𝙩𝙖𝙧𝙩𝙨 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙨𝙩𝙖𝙮𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙩𝙧𝙪𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙬𝙝𝙤 𝙬𝙚 𝙖𝙧𝙚.”


Chapters

00:00Introduction and Overview of Clio's Strategy

02:38The VLex Acquisition and Its Significance

05:18Expanding into the Enterprise Market

07:53Maintaining Culture and Customer Satisfaction



#PeopleInLegal #Clio #LegalTech #AI #Innovation #ClioInnovateLegal #Leadership #LegalIndustry #Culture #AccessToJustice

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1 month ago
8 minutes 55 seconds

People in Legal
Clio aims to transform the legal experience for all - Jack Newton

𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗶𝗳 𝟳𝟳% 𝗼𝗳 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗶𝘀𝘀𝘂𝗲𝘀 𝗻𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗴𝗼 𝘂𝗻𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝗹𝘃𝗲𝗱 — 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗔𝗜 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗼𝘀𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗲 𝗴𝗮𝗽?At 𝗖𝗹𝗶𝗼 𝗜𝗻𝗻𝗼𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗟𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱 𝗦𝘆𝗱𝗻𝗲𝘆, Jack Newton, CEO of Clio, shared how their vision goes far beyond legal software — it’s about transforming the entire legal experience for all.

AI, he believes, will play a pivotal role in bridging the justice gap by:

👉 Reducing the friction and cost of accessing legal help.

👉 Helping consumers recognise when they have a legal issue.

👉 Empowering lawyers to deliver better outcomes, faster and more efficiently.

👉 Unifying the business and practice of law into one intelligent platform.

As Jack put it, “𝗔𝗜 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗲𝗻𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗮𝘄𝘆𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘃𝗲 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 — 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗳𝗲𝘄𝗲𝗿 — 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗻𝘀𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺 𝘁𝗵𝗲 $𝟯 𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘂𝗻𝗺𝗲𝘁 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗸𝗲𝘁 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗼 𝗼𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆.

”In a world where technology often feels distant, this conversation was a reminder that AI in law isn’t about replacing humans — it’s about helping more people get the help they deserve.


Chapters

00:00Trends in Legal Technology

02:45Access to Justice and AI's Role

05:16Transforming Legal Services for Consumers


#PeopleInLegal #Clio #LegalTech #AccessToJustice hashtag#AI #Innovation #LegalIndustry #ClioInnovateLegal #LegalExperience

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2 months ago
8 minutes 41 seconds

People in Legal
Through a Grubby Window: Jack Scott on Blindness, Advocacy, and Criminal Law

CONTENT WARNING: We kept some details in this episode to maintain the genuine grit of criminal law practice. Listener discretion is advised.


In this episode of the Law and Beyond Show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with Jack Scott, Senior Prosecutor with the Queensland Police Service, to explore the fascinating and often gritty world of criminal law.


Jack shares how his journey to the courtroom was anything but straightforward. Jack walks through his experience of struggling with vision impairment and leaving private practice, to nearly dropping out of law entirely before rediscovering his passion for advocacy.


With humour, candour, and insight, Jack opens up about:


  • What daily life as a police prosecutor really involves.
  • His reflections on what it means to be a modern day advocate.
  • Navigating law as both a business and a calling.
  • The hard realities of working in the criminal justice system.
  • How technology and AI are already reshaping crime, courts, and the legal profession.
  • Why sometimes nostalgia (think: CRT monitors and Pokémon) offers unexpected lessons on resilience and perspective.


Links

  • Queensland influencer accused of drugging her baby daughter with anticonvulsant medication, court told - ABC News


A unique and lively conversation that highlights the human side of law, this episode will resonate with lawyers, students, academics, and anyone curious about where the legal profession is headed.

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2 months ago
34 minutes 50 seconds

People in Legal
Law as a Business & Law as a Profession: Leadership in 2025 and Beyond

WE'RE BACK: In this episode of The Law and Beyond Show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with internationally respected consultant, speaker, and author Simon Tupman.


After an early career as a solicitor in England, Simon transitioned into consulting and has spent over three decades helping law firms and legal professionals navigate challenges of leadership, business structure, and cultural change. His latest book, The Heart of Practice, distils insights from leaders across the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, tackling the profession’s greatest Achilles heel: leadership.


Simon and Chantal explore:

  • The enduring tension between law as a profession vs. law as a business.
  • Why leadership, not just management, is vital for the health of law firms.
  • The four pillars of effective leadership: self, people, business, and community.
  • How commercialization and pluralism shape the modern legal services industry.
  • What it takes to shift from “being a lawyer” to “being a leader.”
  • Why lawyers need to embrace their higher purpose of helping people and society.


Along the way, Simon shares stories from his personal journey, including a surprising tale from the South of France with lessons in freedom, connection, and reflection.


If you’ve ever wondered what it really takes to lead in law—or how to align purpose, professionalism, and business in turbulent times—this episode offers both wisdom and practical insight.


Links:

  • The Heart of Practice — Simon Tupman – Law firm management consultant
  • Law Chat Webcast Series — Simon Tupman – Law firm management consultant
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2 months ago
32 minutes 59 seconds

People in Legal
People in Legal - Women + Ai Summit - Anna

🎙 People in Legal – 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 + 𝗔𝗜 𝗦𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗶𝘁 𝗘𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 💡At the Women + AI Summit, David Woolstencroft spoke with Anna Golovsky about her role in legal tech, the value of diversity, and the practical challenges of AI adoption.From starting small with proof of concepts to building strong vendor partnerships, the conversation highlighted how curiosity, collaboration, and active engagement are essential to transforming legal service delivery.💡 Key takeaways: ↳ 𝗗𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗱𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗲𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝘂𝘁𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 ↳ 𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗼𝗳 𝗼𝗳 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲𝗽𝘁𝘀 𝗲𝗻𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗶𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 ↳ 𝗥𝗢𝗜 𝗶𝘀 𝗸𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗼 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮 𝗰𝗮𝘀𝗲 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗔𝗜 ↳ 𝗩𝗲𝗻𝗱𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗺𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗹𝗼𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗹𝘂𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗰𝗹𝗶𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱𝘀 ↳ 𝗖𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗾𝘂𝗶𝗿𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗲𝗻𝗴𝗮𝗴𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁, 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗽𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗼𝗯𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 ↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗳𝗲𝗮𝗿𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗱𝗼𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 – 𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗱𝗶𝗮𝗹𝗼𝗴𝘂𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹🙌 Thanks to Terri Mottershead, Cat Moon, Caryn Sandler, The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for making the Women + AI Summit such an impactful event.

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4 months ago
12 minutes 58 seconds

People in Legal
People in Legal - Women + Ai Summit - Bernadette Hyland-Wood, PhD

At the Women + AI Summit, David Woolstencroft spoke with Bernadette Hyland-Wood, PhD about integrating AI in legal practices, from the promise and pitfalls of Microsoft Copilot to the importance of regulation, education, and ethics for small law firms.They also explored the role of women in technology, the power of community support, and why AI should complement—not replace—human expertise.💡 Key takeaways: ↳ Responsible AI usage is essential for legal practices ↳ Microsoft Copilot offers potential but carries risks of data contamination ↳ Regulation and education are critical for safe AI adoption ↳ Over-reliance on AI can erode professional skills ↳ Ethics and transparency are vital for trust in AI ↳ Community support strengthens AI adoption and best practices🙌 Thanks to Terri Mottershead, Cat Moon, Caryn Sandler, The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for making the Women + AI Summit such an impactful event.

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4 months ago
14 minutes 55 seconds

People in Legal
Women Ai Summit - Kim and Liza

At the Women in AI Summit, David Woolstencroft spoke with Kim Trajer and Liza Greenwood about breaking down barriers to AI adoption in the legal industry.From creating psychological safety within teams to educating clients about AI’s risks and benefits, this conversation explored how community support and open dialogue can turn fear into innovation.💡 Key takeaways:↳ Barriers to AI adoption include fear and lack of understanding↳ Psychological safety empowers teams to experiment with new technologies↳ Younger generations tend to embrace new tech more readily↳ Clients need education on AI’s potential and pitfalls↳ Community support and shared experiences can drive innovationChapters00:00Introduction to the Women in AI Summit01:49Understanding Mindset and AI Adoption05:27Creating Psychological Safety in Teams07:42Educating Clients on AI Risks and Benefits🙌 Thanks to Terri Mottershead, Cat Moon, Caryn Sandler, The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for making the Women + AI Summit such an impactful event.

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5 months ago
9 minutes 15 seconds

People in Legal
Breaking the Mold: Wenee Yap on Mental Health, Storytelling, and Survive Law

🎙 People in Legal – Law and Beyond ShowHost Chantal McNaught sits down with Wenee Yap – serial entrepreneur, writer, and founder of Survive Law – to explore the power of storytelling, the realities of law school, and why community matters.From mental health challenges to creative ventures, Wenee shares how her journey blends law, writing, and entrepreneurship – and why relatable resources and shared experiences are vital for the next generation of lawyers.💡 Key takeaways:↳ Storytelling is a powerful tool in the legal profession↳ Survive Law supports law students through their toughest challenges↳ Mental health struggles are common but often hidden in law school↳ Creativity and law can go hand-in-hand↳ Community and shared experiences drive real growthChapters00:00Introduction to Winnie Yap and Her Journey03:01The Intersection of Law and Creativity06:00The Challenges of Law School09:06The Birth of Survive Law12:06The Power of Storytelling in Law14:57Transitioning from Law to Entrepreneurship18:14 Riding the Unicorn: A New Venture21:03The Importance of Community in Legal Education23:54Reflections on Personal Growth and Success26:50Travel Memories and Life Lessons

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5 months ago
37 minutes 3 seconds

People in Legal
Women Ai Summit edition - Jaysee

🎙 People in Legal – 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 + 𝗔𝗜 𝗦𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗶𝘁 𝗘𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 💡 At the Women + AI Summit, David spoke with Jaysee Sunapho CAPM, a data architect, about the real foundations for successful AI—starting with clean, well-managed data.From the dangers of using AI as a bandaid for bad data to the critical role of skilled data teams, Jaysee shares how industries like healthcare and law can embrace innovation without skipping the groundwork.💡 Key takeaways:↳ 𝗗𝗮𝘁𝗮 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗯𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗔𝗜↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗮 𝗯𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗮𝗶𝗱 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗯𝗮𝗱 𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗮↳ 𝗖𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗳𝘂𝗹 𝘃𝗲𝗻𝗱𝗼𝗿 𝘀𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝗼𝗿 𝗯𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗸 𝗔𝗜 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗷𝗲𝗰𝘁𝘀↳ 𝗛𝗮𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗮 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘁𝘀 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗲𝗮𝗺 𝗶𝘀 𝗰𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹↳ 𝗦𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗮𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗮𝗹 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲𝘀 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱 𝗯𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗮Chapters00:00Introduction to AI and Data Architecture02:16Vendor Selection in AI Implementation04:18The Dangers of Over-Engineering Solutions05:32The Importance of Data Quality06:30The Role of Data Professionals in AI Teams07:11Cautious Embrace of AI Adoption🙌 Thanks to Terri Mottershead, Cat Moon, Caryn Sandler, The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for making the Women + AI Summit such an impactful event.

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5 months ago
7 minutes 33 seconds

People in Legal
Women Ai Summit - Andrea

David sat down with Andrea Foot to unpack the reality of AI in the legal sector—beyond the hype and into the cultural, structural, and human challenges of adoption.From the “𝗔𝗜 𝗴𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗿𝘂𝘀𝗵” to the evolving role of women in shaping these conversations, Andrea shares why open dialogue, values, and people-first thinking are essential for making AI work in law.💡 Key takeaways:↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝘄 𝗴𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗿𝘂𝘀𝗵 𝗶𝗻 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹↳ 𝗖𝘂𝗹𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗯𝗲 𝗯𝗶𝗴𝗴𝗲𝗿 𝗵𝘂𝗿𝗱𝗹𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝗻 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗴𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝘀 𝗺𝘂𝗰𝗵 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗺𝘀↳ 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗽𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗔𝗜 𝗱𝗲𝗯𝗮𝘁𝗲↳ 𝗘𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗰𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘃𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗲𝘀 𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗴𝘂𝗶𝗱𝗲 𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝗺𝗽𝗹𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻Chapters00:00Introduction and Conference Overview01:28The AI Gold Rush in Legal Tech04:27Cultural Impacts of AI in Organisations07:06Women in AI and Broader Implications🙌 Thanks to The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for making the 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 + 𝗔𝗜 𝗦𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗶𝘁 such an impactful event.

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5 months ago
7 minutes 47 seconds

People in Legal
Women + AI Summit - Bríd

🎙 People in Legal – Women + AI Summit Edition 🌟🤖David caught up with Bríd Heffernan to talk change management, AI adoption, and why women in legal tech are reshaping the industry.From empowering young lawyers to enhancing existing tech stacks, this conversation explores the real opportunities and challenges AI brings to legal.💡 Key takeaways:↳ 𝗥𝗲𝗮𝗹 𝗮𝗶 𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗻𝘁 𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀↳ 𝗖𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗮𝗴𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗸𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗼 𝗔𝗜 𝘀𝘂𝗰𝗰𝗲𝘀𝘀↳ 𝗡𝗼 “𝗼𝗻𝗲-𝘀𝗶𝘇𝗲-𝗳𝗶𝘁𝘀-𝗮𝗹𝗹” 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗮𝗱𝗼𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻↳ 𝗧𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗮𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗮 𝗰𝗼𝗿𝗻𝗲𝗿𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗻𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹↳ 𝗬𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗴 𝗹𝗮𝘄𝘆𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗻𝗲𝘄 𝗮𝘃𝗲𝗻𝘂𝗲𝘀 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵↳ 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 𝗶𝗻 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗿𝗲𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲𝘀 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘂𝗮𝗹 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸—𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗹𝗮𝘄𝘆𝗲𝗿𝘀↳ 𝗘𝗻𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗲𝘅𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗔𝗜↳ 𝗖𝗼𝗺𝗺𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗺𝗼𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 𝗶𝘀 𝘃𝗶𝘁𝗮𝗹↳ 𝗟𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 𝗿𝗼𝗹𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘄𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗔𝗜Chapters00:00The Evolution of AI in Legal Services02:34Change Management and Mindset in Legal Tech05:29Strategic Implementation of AI in Law Firms08:15Opportunities for Young Lawyers in the AI Era11:20Empowering Women in Legal Technology🙏 Thanks to The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for making the Women + AI Summit such a standout event.

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5 months ago
11 minutes 27 seconds

People in Legal
Women Ai Summit - Heather

🎙 People in Legal – 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 + 𝗔𝗜 𝗦𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗶𝘁 𝗘𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 🌟Heather Paterson from Legora to unpack what it really takes to move the needle on AI adoption in legal.From leadership mindset to curious culture—this is a powerful conversation on how law firms can navigate the AI wave together.💡 Key takeaways:↳ 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗼𝘄𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗺𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗶𝘀 𝗰𝗿𝘂𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗶𝗻 𝗔𝗜 𝗷𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗻𝗲𝘆𝘀↳ 𝗙𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝘁 𝗱𝗶𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗮𝗱𝗼𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻—𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁’𝘀 𝗼𝗸↳ 𝗟𝗮𝗴𝗼𝗿𝗮 𝗲𝗻𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲𝘀 𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗽𝗿𝗶𝘀𝗲-𝘄𝗶𝗱𝗲 𝗔𝗜 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗮𝗺𝘀↳ 𝗖𝗹𝗶𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗱𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗲𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗰𝘆↳ 𝗔𝗜 𝗮𝗱𝗼𝗽𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘃𝗮𝗿𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗰𝗿𝗼𝘀𝘀 𝗽𝗿𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘀↳ 𝗦𝘂𝗽𝗲𝗿 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗯𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗮𝗹𝘆𝘀𝘁𝘀↳ 𝗟𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗽 𝗺𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘀—𝗯𝗼𝗹𝗱𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗴𝗶𝗻𝘀 𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘁𝗼𝗽↳ 𝗠𝗶𝗱𝘀𝗶𝘇𝗲 𝗳𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝗻’𝘁 𝗮𝗳𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘁 ↳ 𝗖𝘂𝗿𝗶𝗼𝘀𝗶𝘁𝘆 & 𝗲𝗺𝗽𝗮𝘁𝗵𝘆 𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗽 𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲 𝗳𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲 ↳ 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗔𝗜 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘀𝗰𝗮𝗽𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗳𝗮𝘀𝘁—𝗸𝗲𝗲𝗽 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴Chapters00:00The Power of Community in AI Adoption02:27Understanding Lagora and Its Use Cases05:03Driving Change in Legal Firms07:54Partnerships and Long-term Success10:25Curiosity and Empathy in AI Transformation🙏 Thanks to The Centre for Legal Innovation, Vanderbilt University Law School, and Gilbert + Tobin for powering this remarkable summit.

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5 months ago
11 minutes 8 seconds

People in Legal
“People in Legal: Stories and Insights from the Human Side of the Legal Tech Industry." Join us as we explore the personal journeys, challenges, and triumphs of professionals in law, legal tech, education, and academia. Each episode features candid conversations with industry experts, sharing their unique career paths and growth stories. We'll uncover tales of resilience, mentorship, ethical dilemmas, and career-defining moments. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just curious about the field, “People in Legal” offers inspiration and insights for everyone.