This week on the Perry Noble Leadership Podcast, Perry and Cole sit down to discuss the dynamics of organizations and leaders who lead from two different perspectives. One perspective is from a focus centered on the end product, and the other puts their focus on people.
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This week on the Perry Noble Leadership Podcast, Perry and Cole sit down to discuss the dynamics of organizations and leaders who lead from two different perspectives. One perspective is from a focus centered on the end product, and the other puts their focus on people.
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This week on the Perry Noble Leadership Podcast, Perry and Cole sit down to discuss the dynamics of organizations and leaders who lead from two different perspectives. One perspective is from a focus centered on the end product, and the other puts their focus on people.
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This week on the Perry Noble Leadership Podcast we're diving back in and talking through the remaining core values of our staff at Second Chance, and why they are key to keeping our staff unified, healthy, and looking forward.
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Join us on this weeks episode of the Perry Noble Leadership Podcast as we dive in to part one of discussing the 7 core values of our staff at Second Chance Church, why we didn't set core values immediately, and why core values are necessary.
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We took some time off in January, but we're back with new episodes of the Perry Noble Leadership Podcast! Join us this week as we discuss common fears that hold us back as leaders from moving forward, and how we can move past these fears.
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Through our lives we will find ourselves in situations that require us to lead, even when we're not the leader. Join us this week on the Perry Noble Leadership Podcast as Perry and Cole sit down and discuss ways in which we can grow our leadership, in situations where we might be a new leader gaining influence, or situations which require leadership even though we're not the leader.
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On this weeks episode of the Perry Noble Leadership Podcast Perry and Cole dive into the value of understanding the personality types of the people we need. We'll specifically talk about the Enneagram, why Perry switched from using the D-I-S-C, and how the people we lead benefit from us having a better insight into their unique personalities and how that relates to the way they receive leadership.
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On this weeks episode of The Perry Noble Leadership podcast we're diving into the balance of leading not just from a place of inspiration, which will become stressful, but leaning into revelation to lead our people.
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Join us on this weeks episode of the Perry Noble Leadership Podcast as Perry and Cole discuss how as leaders what we do in private impacts our public leadership.
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This podcast isn't about politics, it's about leadership. If you're in the United States, you've surely heard the predictions over the past weeks/months leading up to this mid-term election that there was going to be a red wave, but why then on election night did the wave never come? We're going to dive into the leadership lessons that can be learned and how it ties into the Church.
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That Sunday We Had Record Attendance - But Had NO IDEA It Was Going to Happen.
Strategy is important when it comes to church attendance. Strategic giveaways work well for church attendance. Also consider trying to "win" on "off" Sundays. Typical "off" Sundays include Memorial Day, Father’s Day, and the Sunday after Thanksgiving.
Last year, 2021, our strategy to “win” on the Sunday after Thanksgiving was to giveaway a Second Chance Church hoodie. They were comfortable, simple, and easy advertising/marketing. We promoted it two weeks in advance, and experienced record-breaking attendance (more than our Christmas services!)
THREE MAJOR TAKEAWAYS:
1) KEEP IT POSITIVE – We kept focused on the win = the record attendance, not the fact that we
ran out of hoodies because we had broken attendance.
The crowd will follow the tone the leadership sets in the moment.
2) FIGURE IT OUT - Lean into the "people on the ground" to come up with a plan, that were going to have to do the work. Our plan (developed in less than 15 minutes) was that we took down contact information and sizes, ordered the hoodies needed, contacted them once the hoodies were available, held them for locals for a month to be picked up on a Sunday before or after a service, or if they lived further than 20-25 miles away, we mailed them the hoodie.
3) FOLLOW THROUGH – The weeks following “Hoodie Sunday” we worked just as hard. Insuring we delivered on what we promised. Contacting people, packaging, mailing, prepping for Sunday pick-ups to those close-by.
BONUS TIP: When you have an event like this ALWAYS tell people why they should come back the next week (example: the start of our Christmas series.)
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On this week's edition of the Perry Noble Leadership Podcast, as we approach a mid-term election here in the United States, and a new year. Let's take a step back from the chaos and the news, and look at the reasons why 2023 could be the best year yet for the local Church. Spoiler alert, the potential of the local Church rises and falls on leadership.
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Four Reasons I See Incredible Potential For The Church In 2023
1) THE MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT OF CHURCH MEANS THERE IS MORE POTENTIAL TO GROW
A record number of people out of church = opportunity to reach record numbers of people.
There’s not a lack of churches to attend. There’s a lack of churches that people are connecting to Jesus and/or other people.
Church growth happens by God working through people who work towards it.
When it comes to growing, always keep these two questions in mind:
What do we need to start doing?
What do we need to stop doing?
2) MORE PEOPLE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS THAT THE CHURCH ACTUALLY HAS ANSWERS TO
As the church we have answers to the current “hot topic” issues: gender, sexuality, abortion, politics.
The church can’t be afraid of being “canceled” because we speak on issues based on what scripture tells us.
Good leaders should also have the humility to say, “I don’t know” if they don’t have an answer without further research, knowledge, context.
We need to meet people where they are and then let Jesus taken them where they need to be (as Jesus did).
3) PEOPLE ARE CRAVING THE SUPERNATURAL MORE THAN EVER BEFORE
At one time, the church had the corner of the market on the supernatural. Unfortunately, over the last 2,000 years we’ve made it boring and predicable.
Goal = Create an environment where people can experience the presence of Jesus sand set the stage for the supernatural.
We create the environment and let God do the rest!
4) MORE PEOPLE CRAVE TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING THAT IS BIGGER THAN THEM & MAKES A DIFFERENCE
People love to share common experiences
People love to make a difference
When we can have a common experience that makes a difference on a consistent basis - people will gives their lives to it! It's not just about making the church bigger, it's about making their lives better.
We don’t want to only focus on building a big church, we want to build better people. That will organically make your church grow exponentially.
FINAL THOUGHTS: Our best days are ahead of us.
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Join us on this week's episode of the Perry Noble Leadership podcast as Perry and Cole dig into the distinctions between Spiritual Leadership and Spiritual Abuse.
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5 Distinctions Between Spiritual Leadership vs Spiritual Abuse:
1) Leadership Is Necessary, Spiritual Abuse Is Not
Leadership is a spiritual gift. Every team needs a point leader. Someone must make the call, most often the difficult call.
Spiritual abuse is often seen when a leader isolates themselves, making decisions under the guise of “this is God’s plan” and no one else can question it. While spiritual
leadership will embrace clarifying questions about decisions or vision.
2) Leadership Seeks To Influence, Spiritual Abuse Seeks To Control
Leadership is about influence. As John Maxwell says, “people buy into a person before a position.” My personal leadership philosophy is; listen to Jesus, do what He says. When making decisions as a leader, bounce ideas off your inner circle and work your way out to the next layer of people for their objective/educational input. A spiritual abuser only cares to control their people. The abuser believes they know what is best for everyone.
3) Leadership Is Difficult, Spiritual Abuse Is Easy
When we are tired, we will often choose to do what is easy rather than what is right, which will lead to abusive behavior. Leadership is difficult work. As a leader, you must constantly cast vision providing further clarification and understanding for others to support the vision.
Spiritual abusers make way more statements. Spiritual leaders ask way more questions.
4) Leadership Lets People Weigh In, While Spiritual Abuse Expects Automatic Buy In
Spiritual leadership will seek input when making decisions from those that the decision will have the most impact on. This allows the team to provide additional insight and become bought into the decisions if they are included and their opinions are valued by the leader. Spiritual abusers make most, if not all, decisions alone. They will make demonstrative statements “that this is it,” t”his is the way we are doing it”, “now make it happen.”
Leaders will always provide the “why,” abusers will default to, “because I said so.”
5) Leadership Lasts - Spiritual Abuse Does Not
Spiritual abuse while talked more about in the news at larger churches, mostly occurs in smaller churches. Leadership builds and lasts. Spiritual abuse will eventually run off great people and great leaders.
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Every leader at one point or another will lead “messy people.” Every leader will also go through a messy situation or season during their leadership if they’re in it long enough.
In this episode we will cover the following:
We all know that perfect people don’t exist. Everyone has their own struggles, shortcomings, and baggage – new or old. Regarding “church world” there’s usually an unspoken line that you can’t cross without getting fired if your sin sits on the other side of that line.
What is “the line?”
There are very few hard lines in the sand (example: stealing). Religious people over
time have made “extra rules” and asked for perfection that is unattainable by any person. (See Titus 1 & Timothy 3) There is not a pastor that exists today who always meets every single one of these standards.
As a leader:
1) How do you deal with a person who is currently struggling or continuously struggling?
2) Is the culture and environment of the church (or business) you lead a safe space for someone to come to leadership and admit they are struggling or ask for help?
3) Can trust be rebuilt if it was lost?
Healing is a process. If you’re a leader who claims to care about your team, you must be willing to walk with someone through the healing process. If a sheep is wounded in your flock, you don’t shoot the sheep. You find a way to set the sheep up to succeed and be healed.
Jesus led a lot of “messy people.” He met them with love, not lectures.
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For years I said, "no" to the church being involved in politics. Our responsibility was to "Preach the Gospel.” After more consideration and examination, the church’s job isn’t just about getting people out of hell and into heaven. It’s about getting Jesus in our hearts and to transform us here on earth. That transformation includes becoming kingdom-minded with all areas of our life, including politics.
1) DECOMPARTMENTALIZATION
When we ask Jesus into our life, we as Jesus to be “a part of our life.” We tend to
compartmentalize Christ, but as a follower you truly can’t. He is a part of every area of our
life from relationships to money, career, etc. Jesus didn’t die on a cross to only play a small
part in our lives.
And if Jesus is in us, then we need to view everything through the lenses of His eyes, not
ours.
Colossians 3:3-4
For you died to this life, and your real life is hidden with Christ in God. And when Christ, who is your life, is revealed to the whole world, you will share in all his glory.
2) THE GOSPEL SHOULD CHANGE OUR MINDS
In life, we will all go through different events, situations, seasons that will change our mind. Many people believe think the Gospel is suppose dot change the way we behave, when, it’s supposed to change the way we think and view the world. Subsequently, the way we think affects our behavior.
Romans 12:2
Don’t copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. Then you will learn to know God’s will for you, which is good and pleasing and perfect.
3) THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY "CHRISTIANS" INVOLVED IN POLITICS IN THE BIBLE
Most people don’t realize the number of politics or political leaders that are in the Bible. Given the context of the time the Bible was written about, several well-known people were in the political arena. Joseph was essentially the Vice President of Egypt, David was a King, Nehemiah was a cupbearer to the King, and so many more.
The only caveat to politics for Christians is that we should not become obsessed with it or idolize it. Unless God has called you to politics, your life should not be consumed by it.
4) BECAUSE OF HISTORICALLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED WHEN GOD IS NOT TO BE FOUND IN GOVERNMENT
History tells us what will happen in the future if we don’t pay attention or learn from the past. The whole "separation of church and state" argument has been misunderstood by a lot of people. It was initially written to protect the church from the government, not the other way
around. Government without God has been tried before, and we have seen the horrible ramifications of the church being silent during these times. (ex. Hitler, Stalin)
The church needs to speak up and take a stand that aligns with God’s truth, whether that is in alignment or opposing the stance of the government or leaders of the world.
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As leaders, at some point, we are all going to find ourselves wounded. In that moment, the question is, how do we heal and stay in the game, rather than falling into the temptations which distract us from our purpose as leaders?
1) THE TEMPTATION TO HIDE
Instead of owning our mistakes, we are tempted to want to run away. Running away leads to isolation. Isolation always leads to (further) destruction.
2) SELF DOUBT
At one point or another, we will all make bad decisions. We have two options on how to handle the result of our bad decision – use them as a tool to become better, or let it steal our calling. If we continue to doubt ourselves because of bad decisions we’ve made in the past or fear making future decisions, we will cease seeking God.
3) SEEKING AFFIRMATION IN THE WRONG PLACES
If we are not careful, we can start to seek out only instant affirmation and gratification (think, social media). We can get in a toxic cycle without realizing it, by overestimating the value of outsiders and underestimating the value of those around us.
4) ACCEPTING LESS THAN THE BEST (FROM YOURSELF AND OTHERS)
When you make a bad decision, question your calling, the temptation is to begin to think, "Why even try? Just make something up and go with it" We will start to question our quality of leadership because of a bad decision we’ve made in the past. As a leader, you cannot challenge your team to do their best if you’re not challenging yourself to do your best.
5) TO STOP TRUSTING PEOPLE
When we are wounded, we tend to withdraw ourselves form others. We try to proactively
prevent enduring any further pain, by shutting out anyone we think could hurt us.
There is not a leader on the planet that can accomplish the vision God gave them without
other people. If you can accomplish it by yourself, it is not a God given vision.
Instead of choosing to shut yourself off to others, we have got to accept that people WILL hurt us. Getting wounded comes with the territory of leadership. When this happens, you have got to work and lead through it.
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1) Uncertainty Is The Reason We Need Leadership
When COVID hit – Leaders across the board had no idea what to do, from leading a country through a pandemic to leading a ministry and church through one. However, as a leader, in times of uncertainty, is when people need clarity.
We will never have “all the information” to make a decision, but we are still called to make the best decision for the people we are leading with the information we do have. Somebody has to jump and go first, if everyone else is stalling in indecision or fear.
2) You Cannot Please Everyone
We tend to believe what we pay attention to the most. Not everyone is going to be happy with your decision. In fact, it’s rare for everyone to agree with your decision, big or small. Regardless, you must stay focused on your mission.
3) Make A Decision
Indecision is a decision to neglect your gift to lead!
One of the most challenging things about being a leader is making the decision. Every decision comes with weight, that the leader is going to carry and is responsible for – whether it’s a good outcome or a less than ideal one.
The unwillingness to make a hard decision is what holds most churches back. Every church is two to three decisions away from doubling in size.
In a time of uncertainty, for the sake of your staff and others you lead, make a decision, explain the why and follow through on it. This gives everyone an expectation, whether they agree with the decision or not.
4 ) Listen To The People Closest To You
Talk to the people who your decision will impact the most. For example, I talked to two groups of people, our staff and then our key volunteers, and 90% were fully on board with starting back. The most pushback we received were from people online who don’t even live in South Carolina nor attend our church. A discussion will get you farther with those you lead than a declaration.
Feedback is necessary - but not all feedback is valuable. We sometimes fall in the rap of thinking that the loud people are the majority, but they aren’t.
5) Don't Fight To Get Things Back To "Normal"
Our first Sunday re-opening from COVID shutdown, but it took quite a while for it to build back up. Pre-COVID we were averaging 1,000 people a Sunday, re-opening Sunday we were around half that. I had to learn that those two are no longer comparable. We do live in a new world post-pandemic. Instead of focusing on our attendance being only half of what it
was, I shifted my perspective to being thankful. Thankful we had anyone show up at all during this season, as one of the first churches to open back up our area.
Instead of wishing had more - be thankful for who is there and do your best to take care of them.
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I have battled with some form of mental illness for as long as I can remember, anxiety, depression, etc. I have good seasons and bad seasons - at times feel like I’ve escaped it, and at others I feel like David in the Psalms asking God, “Why have you forsaken me?”
This is why I became really angry a few weeks ago when I saw a prominent pastor say that it is “reckless and unbiblical” for a pastor to be in ministry who has mental illness or who has serious doubts about their faith.”
What was reckless and unbiblical was his statement and attitude.
As a pastor who has battled with this I want you to know that:
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In Bible - it wasn’t IDEAS that changed things—it was the execution of those ideas.
You can do exactly what God has called you to do.
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"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me..."
Yeah, right.
Hate on social media is real and it is becoming an epidemic that not only effects people emotionally, but also physically and mentally.
So let's talk about it: let's dive into How to Handle Hate on Social Media.
Social media is an incredible tool/resource when it comes to communication, branding and keeping up with friends and family members all over the world.
However, it’s also become a source of frustration, anxiety and even depression for so many people; especially those with a leadership position.
There are not many areas where I would consider myself an expert; however, in the area of dealing with "haters" I feel like I’ve earned a doctorate degree.
How to Handle Internet Hate
Empathy
I’ve had the “privilege” to meet a few “internet trolls” in my lifetime and after doing so, I really did feel sorry for them.
You could tell they were miserable and not the person they projected themselves to be on the internet.
The first step to handling online hate is to understand that the person writing these nasty comments to you is broken and in need of the Divine compassion Jesus equips you with, daily.
Energy
People either add energy to your life or take energy from it. No exceptions.
When people are a negative source of energy, I simply block them, courtesy of Bob Goff's permission.
Comments and feedback should be used for information, not motivation because, if we live by the comments, we will die by them as well.
Engage
Only engage if there is something that is a flat out lie and engage the comment, not the person.
Recently, someone online wrote that I did not complete treatment in 2016.
I’ve been called all sorts of things but that was an instance where I had to say something because it was untrue.
It was something I busted my ass to do and I was freaking proud of the fact I had done the hard work.
After I directly addressed the comment, they actually took the comment down.
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