Brian Rowsey joins Langley Austin and Noah Hinchee for an episode that goes exactly how you’d expect. Rowsey, who at one point promoted a single race at Natural Bridge Speedway, shares his belief that the track wouldn’t still be around if not for his involvement — a statement that immediately sets the tone.

The discussion dives headfirst into the firestorm that followed that event, including Rowsey’s remarks calling non-winning racers who expected to get paid “losers,” his stance that tow money and payouts beyond the top five shouldn’t exist, and his belief that cutting payouts is the key to keeping racetracks financially alive.

Whether you agree with him or not — and many won’t — this episode is raw, uncomfortable at times, and exactly the kind of conversation short track racing rarely has out loud. Opinions clash, tempers flare, and nothing is off the table.

This one isn’t for everyone — but it is Pit Chatter.