DESCRIPTION
David is joined by Ray Kanani and Adam Kropf to discuss the evolving role of AI in product management, exploring its implications for society, practical applications, and the skills needed for product managers in this new era.

* How AI shifts the product manager’s job
* What expertise means in an LLM-powered world
* Why puzzles (yes, puzzles!) are a form of rebellion
* And the role of passion in the future of work

CHAPTERS
[00:00] - Intro
[01:00] - Intelligence going to zero
[03:30] - Is the hype real? Or are we hitting a plateau?
[05:00] - Cheap intelligence, expensive expertise
[07:00] - Using AI to challenge your own thinking
[09:00] - Marketing stacks are now AI-only
[10:30] - The sparring partner: ChatGPT with context memory
[12:00] - Voice interfaces and anthropomorphism
[17:00] - AI assistants vs. human patterns
[20:00] - Product skills that still matter: discovery, storytelling, context
[23:00] - What would you build if money didn’t matter?
[26:00] - The case for analog experiences: puzzles & purpose
[29:00] - Where to find Ray & Adam

SPONSORS
**Co.Lab Build Co-Pilot** – Turn your idea into a working product with your first customers pre-loaded
→ https://bit.ly/pandc_colab

**Querio** – Natural language analytics for your product team
→ https://bit.ly/panc_querio

LINKS
Adam Kropf - https://www.linkedin.com/in/akropf/

Ray Kanani - https://www.linkedin.com/in/raykanani/

Good Fortune Puzzle Co. - https://goodfortunepuzzleco.com/

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