What if your anxiety isn’t something to fix, but something to listen to?
In this conversation with Dr. Richard Schwartz, the founder of Internal Family Systems (IFS), we explore a powerful and relieving idea: the mind is made up of many parts, not just one. Even the parts of us that feel anxious, controlling, or overwhelmed are not broken or bad, they are protectors shaped by past experiences, doing their best to keep us safe.
Dr. Schwartz explains how anxiety often arises when vulnerable “exiled” parts carrying old wounds, fear, or shame are pushed away. To prevent that pain from surfacing, protective parts step in through panic, perfectionism, control, or distraction. Through the IFS lens, these patterns aren’t character flaws, they are intelligent survival strategies born from pain.
Together, we explore how healing doesn’t come from fighting or fixing these parts, but from meeting them with curiosity, compassion, and Self-leadership. The Self is the calm, grounded, compassionate core within all of us, untouched by trauma. When we lead from this place, anxious parts can finally soften, release their burdens, and guide us back to a deeper sense of wholeness.
● How all parts hold wisdom and purpose
● The natural states of the mind and how parts form
● The qualities of the Self and why it is central to healing
● How unburdening anxious parts creates neurological change
● How wholeness emerges when all parts are welcomed
We Also Discuss:
[0:00:00] Welcome to The Radical Responsibility Podcast
[0:01:20] The fuel behind Dr. Richard’s career
[0:04:58] Technique to deal with panic attacks
[0:07:24] Understanding the natural states of the mind
[0:09:20] “Exiles” and “Protectors”
[0:12:51] Characteristics of the “Self”
[0:17:22] What happens when trauma is not present
[0:19:14] Working with your parts
[0:23:50] Unburdening the anxious parts impacts you neurologically
[0:30:45] Cultivating the quality of self-leadership
[0:33:37] Where to begin the work of connecting with self
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