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Rainer on Leadership
Thom Rainer
100 episodes
23 hours ago
Rainer on Leadership is your online home for leadership lessons for the local church. This twice-weekly podcast provides practical training on important issues for church leaders and pastors. For more information, visit ChurchAnswers.com.
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Rainer on Leadership is your online home for leadership lessons for the local church. This twice-weekly podcast provides practical training on important issues for church leaders and pastors. For more information, visit ChurchAnswers.com.
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Christianity
Education,
Religion & Spirituality,
Business,
Management,
Courses
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The Burge Report: How Do Pastors Actually End Up in Ministry?
Rainer on Leadership
23 minutes 44 seconds
1 day ago
The Burge Report: How Do Pastors Actually End Up in Ministry?
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In this episode, Sam and Ryan Burge discuss how pastors become pastors. Using data from the National Survey of Religious Leaders, the cohosts reveal that clergy often come to ministry through winding, unconventional paths—many after careers in other fields. Far from being single-focused, pastors frequently juggle multiple responsibilities: leading congregations, working as chaplains, and even holding non-ministry jobs. The numbers reveal both the beauty and burden of this calling: most clergy work 50+ hours a week, with a quarter clocking over 60. Yet despite financial pressures and demanding schedules, these leaders remain deeply committed to serving their communities and churches.



* Unconventional Paths to Ministry: Two-thirds of clergy had another career before entering ministry, highlighting that few go directly from Bible college or seminary into full-time leadership.
* Rising Through the Ranks: About a quarter of clergy were already on staff at their congregation before becoming the senior leader, and one in five began as lay members before stepping into paid roles.
* Bi-Vocational Realities: Nearly one-third of clergy hold outside jobs, often out of financial necessity. Others serve multiple congregations or work as chaplains in hospitals, schools, prisons, or nursing homes.
* The Income Factor: Clergy earning under $50,000 per year are much more likely to seek outside work, but once they cross that threshold, side jobs drop dramatically as full-time ministry with benefits becomes possible.
* The Heavy Workload: On average, clergy work 47–50 hours a week across all roles, and a significant share—about 25%—report working 60 hours or more.



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* Rooted


* Upward Sports


* “The Many Jobs of a Religious Leader” by Ryan Burge


* Ryan Burge


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* FREE Research Report! New Surprising Insights


* The Hope Initiative

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Rainer on Leadership
Rainer on Leadership is your online home for leadership lessons for the local church. This twice-weekly podcast provides practical training on important issues for church leaders and pastors. For more information, visit ChurchAnswers.com.