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Safe As Podcast
Ben Hutchinson
65 episodes
3 days ago
A podcast dedicated to the thrifty analysis of safety science, risk, systems, and performance research. Jump onto SafetyInsights.Org for more research. Intro/Output "Dark Synth Wave" by ElephantGreen (PixaBay.com)
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A podcast dedicated to the thrifty analysis of safety science, risk, systems, and performance research. Jump onto SafetyInsights.Org for more research. Intro/Output "Dark Synth Wave" by ElephantGreen (PixaBay.com)
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Safe As Podcast
E65: The use and abuse of safety indicators

Safety indicators, metrics, measures, KPIs...whatever.

Are these indicators used primarily for genuine learning and improvement - or more often misinterpreted and misused?Ref: Oswald, D., Zhang, R. P., Lingard, H., Pirzadeh, P., & Le, T. (2018). The use and abuse of safety indicators in construction. Engineering, construction and architectural management, 25(9), 1188-1209.Support the channel at: https://buymeacoffee.com/benhutchinsonMore research at SafetyInsights.OrgOutro music "Dark Synth Wave" by ElephantGreen (PixaBay.com)

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1 week ago
6 minutes 50 seconds

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E64: How can we move forward from notions of 'human error'?

This paper explores how complex systems not only fail, but succeed, and provides 9 ways that we can move beyond simplistic notions of system failure due to 'human error'.

Ref: Woods, D. D., & Cook, R. I. (2002). Nine steps to move forward from error. Cognition, technology & work, 4(2), 137-144.

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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4 weeks ago
9 minutes 36 seconds

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E63: Should we, or even can we, analyse 'safety culture' in investigations?

'Safety Culture' is treated by some as the holy grail of organisational safety concepts: valourised and promoted uncritically.

But should we, or even can we, analyse 'safety culture' in investigations?

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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1 month ago
12 minutes 31 seconds

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E62: Types of error - error as cause, event, or harm

What do we mean when we say 'human error'? Do you mean as a cause, event, or harm?

And does error language more broadly mask more underpinning human variability, and increase the risk of blame?

Sources:

1. Hollnagel, E. (2007). Human error: Trick or treat. Handbook of applied cognition, 219-238.

2. Read, G. J., Shorrock, S., Walker, G. H., & Salmon, P. M. (2021). State of science: evolving perspectives on ‘human error’. Ergonomics, 64(9), 1091-1114.

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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1 month ago
4 minutes 30 seconds

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E61: Another deep dive on human performance in barrier systems

How should we plan, design and integrate human performance into our risk control and barrier systems?


This episode draws on four sources:

  1. Mantom, M., Johnson, M., Pitblado, R., Cowley, C., & Krishna, K. (2017). Standardisation of Bow Tie Methodology and Terminology via a CCPS/EI Book. In Chem. E., SYMPOSIUM SERIES (No. 162).
  2. Human Factors in Barrier Management: white paper (2016). Chartered Institute of Ergonomics & Human Factors.
  3. McLeod, R. W. (2017). Human factors in barrier management: Hard truths and challenges. Process Safety and Environmental Protection, 110, 31-42.
  4. Government of Western Australia Department of Mines, Industry Regulation and Safety (n.d.). Human factors: Integrating human factors into bowtie analyses of major accident events

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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1 month ago
11 minutes 54 seconds

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E60: Psychology of risk and motivating less risky decisions

How can we motivate--or even design for--more desirable, safer decisions on health, safety and life, and disincentivise riskier decisions?

This episodes explores Gerald Wilde's four tactics of motivating safer behaviour, from his book 'Target Risk 3'.

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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1 month ago
4 minutes 34 seconds

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E59: Predictors of the use of higher-order risk controls

What factors predict the use of higher-order risk controls? This study unpacks the predictors via use of HECA (High-Energy Control Assessment).

Source: Oguz Erkal, E. D., Hallowell, M. R., Ghriss, A., & Bhandari, S. (2024). Predicting serious injury and fatality exposure using machine learning in construction projects. Journal of construction engineering and management, 150(3), 04023169.

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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1 month ago
7 minutes 7 seconds

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E58: Diving into a process of Safety Decluttering

Today we're diving into the CSRA's Safety Clutter Classification model and process of decluttering.

Source is: Decluttering Safety report, from the Construction Safety Research Alliance, 2025.

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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1 month ago
6 minutes 51 seconds

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E57: Safety clutter - paper tigers and non-value adding work

How does safety clutter--the accumulation of safety artefacts that don't contribute to operational safety--distract attention and resources from more pressing matters?

Can clutter, with best intentions, even contribute to elevated risk?

Today's paper is: Rae, A. J., Provan, D. J., Weber, D. E., & Dekker, S. W. (2018). Safety clutter: the accumulation and persistence of ‘safety’ work that does not contribute to operational safety. Policy and practice in health and safety, 16(2), 194-211.

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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1 month ago
6 minutes 13 seconds

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E56: Walk-Through Talk-Through - a technique for learning about daily work and error traps

This quickisode jumps into the Walk-Through Talk-Through technique, used to collaborate with workers and learn about the challenges and error traps with tasks, and how to improve.

Source: Human Performance Oil & Gas. HPOG.org

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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2 months ago
3 minutes 41 seconds

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E55: Butt-covering paperwork & false safety

What if the paperwork that management come to rely on, rather than providing assurance of safe work methods, is more a ritual, disconnected from real work, or how people create safety in the field?

What if, in some cases, this paperwork creates a false sense of safety and indeed, masquerades as a false butt covering exercise?

Today's source is: Borys, D. (2009). Exploring risk-awareness as a cultural approach to safety: Exposing the gap between work as imagined and work as actually performed. Safety Science Monitor, 13(2), 1-11.

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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2 months ago
8 minutes 49 seconds

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E54: Work-as-imagined, prescribed, disclosed and done

How do the models of how we think about work reveal and conceal features of the work?

Today we explore varieties of human work: work-as-imagined, work-as-prescribed, work-as-disclosed, and work-as-done.

Source: Shorrock, S. (2016, December 5). The varieties of human work. Humanistic Systems.  https://humanisticsystems.com/2016/12/05/the-varieties-of-human-work/

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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2 months ago
3 minutes 10 seconds

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E53: Weak Controls. Repeat Deaths. The Brady review into mining fatalities

Imagine following a workplace fatality, that the weakest types of controls are implemented - administrative.

This episode unpacks some findings from the Brady review of Qld mining fatalities and what lessons we can apply from weak controls and repeat deaths.

Source: Brady, S. (2019). Review of all fatal accidents in Queensland mines and quarries from 2000 to 2019. Department of Natural Resources, Mines and Energy.

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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2 months ago
11 minutes 33 seconds

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E52: Tapping into the semiotics of risk - workspace, headspace, groupspace

How can we move beyond simple workplace hazards towards tackling risk from psychological and cultural cues in the workplace?

Today we unpack Rob Long's Workspace / Headspace / Groupspace risk semiotic to help mature our thinking.

Sources:

1. Safety Engagement with Workspace, Headspace and Groupspace. Rob Long, 2021, SafetyRisk . net

2. SOCIAL PSYCHOLOGY OF RISK TOOLS (2015). Human Dymensions

3. Workspace, Headspace, Groupspace. Rob Long, Vimeo . com

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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2 months ago
3 minutes 24 seconds

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E51: The links between hazardous energy magnitude and injury severity

What are the links between the magnitude of the energy within hazard exposures on subsequent injury severity and death?

Does more energy = higher chance of SIFs?

Source: Hallowell, M. R., Alexander, D., & Gambatese, J. A. (2017). Energy-based safety risk assessment: Does magnitude and intensity of energy predict injury severity?. Construction management and economics, 35(1-2), 64-77.

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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2 months ago
9 minutes 51 seconds

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E50: Ed Schein's Humble Inquiry - “The Gentle Art of Asking Instead of Telling” (quickisode)

This quickisode unpacks Ed Schein's concept of Humble Inquiry - said to be the "gentle art of asking instead of telling".

Source: Schein, E. H. (2013). Humble inquiry: The gentle art of asking instead of telling. Berrett-Koehler Publishers.

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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2 months ago
3 minutes 7 seconds

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E49: CEO-speak and the road to major disasters

What does the leadership language used by CEOs tell us about the priority and beliefs around safety and risk?

This episode unpacks a study exploring the BP CEO's speeches prior to the BP Deepwater Horizon disaster.

Source: Amernic, J., & Craig, R. (2017). CEO speeches and safety culture: British Petroleum before the Deepwater Horizon disaster. Critical perspectives on accounting, 47, 61-80.

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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2 months ago
9 minutes 49 seconds

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E48: Blame fixes ... something ???

Does blame really solve nothing...or does it have some redeeming features?

Source: van Mourik, O., Grohnert, T., & Gold, A. (2023). Mitigating work conditions that can inhibit learning from errors: Benefits of error management climate perceptions. Frontiers in Psychology, 14, 1033470.

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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2 months ago
10 minutes 3 seconds

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E47: Improving procedures via resilient skills - leveraging resilience engineering (quickisode)

This quickisode explores how resilience engineering - particularly enhancing resilient skills - can improve procedures.

Source: Saurin, T. A., Wachs, P., & Costella, M. F. (2015). Exploring synergies between the design of procedures and the development of resilience skills. In Proceedings of the 6th Resilience Engineering Symposium.

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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3 months ago
5 minutes 37 seconds

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E46: The Stuff That Kills People and weaknesses in Critical Control Programs

How do Critical Control programs succeed or fault and trip? And are CC observations calibrated to the actual things that kill or permanently injure people? This episode unpacks creative sentencing reports.

Article: Lefsrud, L. M., Sattari, F., Gellatly, I. R., Wasel, C., Charuvil Elizabeth, R. M., Abdolmaleki, A., ... & O’Neill, T. (2025). Final Report for Creative Sentence: Building Resilience into Safety Management Systems: Precursors and Controls to Reduce Serious Injuries and Fatalities (SIFs).

More research at SafetyInsights.Org

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3 months ago
12 minutes 45 seconds

Safe As Podcast
A podcast dedicated to the thrifty analysis of safety science, risk, systems, and performance research. Jump onto SafetyInsights.Org for more research. Intro/Output "Dark Synth Wave" by ElephantGreen (PixaBay.com)