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On February 1st, 2012, a young woman was abducted while closing down a coffee stand in Anchorage Ak. Her disappearance would trigger a manhunt that culminated in the arrest of Israel Keyes roughly 4,000 miles away in Lufkin, TX. In this episode we will outline the circumstances of this young woman's disappearance and the teamwork between agencies that led to Israel’s apprehension. While celebrating the unlikely group of people that will inevitably be the reason that more of his victims are identified.

Special Guests:
SA Ted Halla

Resources:
The FBI files
True Crime Bullsh**

Researchers:
Peggy S.

Music:
Dirt Jake Replicas - Part 2

And as always, a very special Thank you to our Patreon producers:

Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Colleen Sullivan
Attar Mann
Stephanie Maksimow
Katelyn James
Kathy Nation
Brian Hanna
Trista
Ally
Pink
Dale Akstin
Corey Deatly
and
Virginia Williams

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We are excited to bring you the third part of a conversation we had with 4 retired FBI profilers from the podcast, The Consult.  They independently profiled the Samantha Koenig case and the William and Lorraine Curriers case before anyone knew that a serial killer was involved.  They know the case well and have covered Israel Keyes on thier show. Their experience and expertise shines through as they begin to put to bed all of the mystic built around Israel.  We not only get their insight into the details surrounding his  drawings and writings found in his cell, but they also discuss Israel in a more general sense and how Israel relates to other offenders.

Enjoy!

Special Guests:
The Consult team - 
Julia Cowley
Robert Drew
Susan Kossler-Drew
Angela Sercer

Resources:
The FBI files
True Crime Bullsh**

Researchers:
Kim K. 
Peggy S.

Music:
Dirt Jake Replicas - Part 2

Episode Artwork Credit:
Heather Horton Whedon

And as always, a very special Thank you to our Patreon producers:

Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Colleen Sullivan
Attar Mann
Stephanie Maksimow
Katelyn James
Kathy Nation
Brian Hanna
Trista
Ally
Pink
Dale Akstin
Corey Deatly
and
Virginia Williams

This is a Studio BOTH/AND collaboration: www.somewhereinthepines.com / bothand.fyi  For an ad-free experience: cz/studiobothand

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We are excited to bring you the second part of a conversation we had with 4 retired FBI profilers from the podcast, The Consult.  They independently profiled the Samantha Koenig case and the William and Lorraine Curriers case before anyone knew that a serial killer was involved.  They know the case well and have covered Israel Keyes on thier show. Their experience and expertise shines through as they begin to put to bed all of the mystic built around the case.  We not only get their insight into the details surrounding his  drawings and writings found in his cell, but they also discuss Israel in a more general sense and how Israel relates to other offenders.

Enjoy!

Special Guests:
The Consult team - 
Julia Cowley
Robert Drew
Susan Kossler-Drew
Angela Sercer

Resources:
The FBI files
True Crime Bullsh**

Researchers:
Kim K. 
Peggy S.

Music:
Dirt Jake Replicas - Part 2

Episode Artwork Credit:
Heather Horton Whedon

And as always, a very special Thank you to our Patreon producers:

Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Colleen Sullivan
Attar Mann
Stephanie Maksimow
Katelyn James
Kathy Nation
Brian Hanna
Trista
Ally
Pink
Dale Akstin
Corey Deatly
and
Virginia Williams

This is a Studio BOTH/AND collaboration: www.somewhereinthepines.com / bothand.fyi  For an ad-free experience: cz/studiobothand

 For early ad-free episodes and more: www.Patreon.com/somewhereinthepines
 

If you have a tip, please call 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324)

Somewhere in the Pines is sponsored by Better Help and Hello Fresh

We are excited to bring you a conversatoin we had with 4 retired FBI profilers from the podcast, The Consult.  They independently profiled the Samantha Koenig case and the William and Lorraine Currier case before anyone knew that a serial killer was involved.  They know the case well and have covered Israel Keyes on thier show. Their experience and expertise shines through as they begin to put to bed all of the mystic built around the case.  We not only get their insight into the details surrounding his  drawings and writings found in his cell, but they also discuss Israel in a more general sense and how he relates to other offenders.

Enjoy!

Special Guests:

The Consult team - 
Julia Cowley
Robert Drew
Susan Kossler Drew
Angela Sercer

Resources:
The FBI files

Episode Artwork Credit:
Heather Horton Whedon

And as always, a very special Thank you to our Patreon producers:

Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Colleen Sullivan
Attar Mann
Stephanie Maksimow
Katelyn James
Kathy Nation
Brian Hanna
Trista
Ally
Pink
Dale Akstin
and
Corey Deatly

This is a Studio BOTH/AND collaboration: www.somewhereinthepines.com / bothand.fyi  For an ad-free experience: cz/studiobothand

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Today we are joined by PHD Bioarchaeologist and specialist in Maya civilization remains to talk about the history of the area and what potential crossover there is with Israel's M.O. and cell drawings. Nearing the end of the Caracol miniseries, we hope you enjoy another perspective before we start to break it all down and answer the questions you have been asking. 

Enjoy!

Resources:
The FBI files

And as always, a very special Thank you to our Patreon producers:

Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Colleen Sullivan
Attar Mann
Stephanie Maksimow
Katelyn James
Kathy Nation
Brian Hanna
Trista
Ally
Pink
Dale Akstin
and
Corey Deatly

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Hi Everyone,
In today's episode, as we near the end of the Caracol miniseries - we are joined by Heather Horton Whedon as she retells the theory she told us one cold rainy night while camping near a cemetery on the shoreline of Blake Falls Reservoir. A glimpse into how pondering over Israel's last days and final moments reminded her of specifc Tarot cards that hold special meanings. Speculative but engaging - as well as thought provoking with a fresh perspective from someone that spent the most time with the image. Thanks for listening - and if you are enjoying Somewhere in the Pines, please be sure to tell a friend.

Featured Guests:
Heather Horton Whedon

Resources:
The FBI files
The Church of Satan by Anton LaVey
The Rider Tarot Deck

And as always, a very special Thank you to our Patreon producers:

Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Colleen Sullivan
Attar Mann
Stephanie Maksimow
Katelyn James
Kathy Nation
Brian Hanna
Trista
Ally
Pink
Dale Akstin
and
Corey Deatly

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Hi Everyone,
In today's episode, we chat with Heather Horton Whedon and Jim Freeman about the role Satanism may have played in Israel's crimes. 

Featured Guests:
Jim Freeman
Heather Horton Whedon

Resources:
The FBI files
The Church of Satan by Anton LaVey
Stuff You Should Know - How Satanism Works

And as always, a very special Thank you to our Patreon producers:

Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Colleen Sullivan
Attar Mann
Stephanie Maksimow
Katelyn James
Kathy Nation
Brian Hanna
Trista
Ally
Pink
Dale Akstin
and
Corey Deatly

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Hi Everyone,
This is part 2 of two episodes that we are releasing today. This is an episode of the Consult podcast that we were given permission to use to help us explain all that we can about Israel's time in his cell. Please show the Consult podcast some love and check out the other two episodes they did on Keyes - as well as a list of other incredible cases. https://www.truecrimeconsult.com

Th Consult's show notes:

 Israel Keyes was a highly mobile serial killer who murdered Bill and Lorraine Currier in June 2011 and Samantha Koenig in February 2012. Keyes is also suspected of murdering several other people. He died by suicide in December 2012. Listen as retired FBI profilers Julia Cowley, Angela Sercer, Susan Kossler Drew, and Bob Drew continue to profile Keyes, including discussion of the note he left in his jail cell. Part 3 of 3.
Music by John Hanske. If you'd like to hear more of John's music, you can listen on Spotify.

For image reference - please visit Somewhereinthepines.com/Caracol
Including music "Light in the Basement" by John Hankse https://open.spotify.com/album/1dWT7FYt5uvw14Nky89rxm

Returning to SITP credits and show notes

And as always, a very special Thank you to our Patreon producers:
Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Colleen Sullivan
Attar Mann
Stephanie Maksimow
Katelyn James
Kathy Nation
Brian Hanna
Trista
Ally
Pink
and
Dale Akstin

This is a Studio BOTH/AND collaboration: www.somewhereinthepines.com / bothand.fyi  For an ad-free experience: cz/studiobothand For early episodes and more: www.Patreon.com/somewhereinthepines
 

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Hi Everyone, 
This is part one of two episodes that we are releasing today. This episode talks about a new reconstruction of the Note left behind by Israel.

For image reference - please visit Somewhereinthepines.com/Caracol

Guest appearances:
Sarah Latshaw and Nina Waldman - https://lastknowncontact.com
Nic and the Captain of True Crime Garage - https://www.truecrimegarage.com
Julia Cowley of The Consult - https://www.truecrimeconsult.com 
Including music "Light in the Basement" by John Hankse https://open.spotify.com/album/1dWT7FYt5uvw14Nky89rxm

And as always, a very special Thank you to our Patreon producers:
Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Colleen Sullivan
Attar Mann
Stephanie Maksimow
Katelyn James
Kathy Nation
Brian Hanna
Trista
Ally
Pink
and
Dale Akstin

Researched, Written, Recorded, Edited, and Produced by Somewhere in the Pines
All audio containing Special Agent Ted Halla belongs to Somewhere in the Pines and may not be used without written consent. 

This is a Studio BOTH/AND collaboration: www.somewhereinthepines.com / bothand.fyi  For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand 
For early episodes and more: www.Patreon.com/somewhereinthepines

Resources:
The "suicide note" was provided by Sarah Latshaw and Nina Waldman
FBI Case File
Special Forces Caching Techniques Manual
Montage - CBSN LiveCBS NEWSNBC5 - WPTZKPTV

Music:
Note reading music - The Captain
Including music "Light in the Basement" by John Hankse https://open.spotify.com/album/1dWT7FYt5uvw14Nky89rxm
"part 2" by Dirt Jake Replicas
"Mend" by Dirt Jake Replicas
Backing Tracks: GarageBand Loops

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Hi Everyone, 
In this episode we take you behind-the-scenes of the release of new evidence in the case of Israel Keyes. Enjoy.
For image reference - please visit Somewhereinthepines.com/Caracol

Guest appearances:
Heather Horton Whedon
Nic and the Captain of True Crime Garage
Josh Hallmark and Michelle Tooker of True Crime Bullsh**
Lucy from Wine and Crime
Jesse Blanchard of Goat&Yeti

Researched, Written, Recorded, Edited, and Produced by Somewhere in the Pines
All audio containing Special Agent Ted Halla belongs to Somewhere in the Pines and may not be used without written consent. 

And as always, a very special Thank you to our Patreon producers:
Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Colleen Sullivan
Attar Mann
Stephanie Maksimow
Katelyn James
Kathy Nation
Brian Hanna
Ally
and
Pink

This is a Studio BOTH/AND collaboration: www.somewhereinthepines.com / bothand.fyi  For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand  For early episodes and more: www.Patreon.com/somewhereinthepines

Resources:
The "suicide note" was provided by a research team that we hope to have on to discuss it in detail in the coming episodes. Details on how they want to be credited will be coming soon. 
FBI Case File
Special Forces Caching Techniques Manual
Montage - CBSN LiveCBS NEWSNBC5 - WPTZKPTV

Music:
"part 2" by Dirt Jake Replicas
"Mend" by Dirt Jake Replicas
Backing Tracks: GarageBand Loops

Somewhere In The Pines in collaboration with Heather Horton Whedon release new information in the case of Israel Keyes at the Berkshire Podcast Festival in North Adams Massachusetts. 

In this episode, we gather around the Campfire with Josh Hallmark from True Crime Blush**, and Nic and the Captain of True Crime Garage to talk about the Keyes case. Enjoy!

Special Thank you to our Patreon producers:
Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Colleen Sullivan
Rochelle Roberts
Attar Mann
Stephanie Maksimow
Katelyn James
Kathy Nation
and
Pink

If you have a tip, please call 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324)

In 2012, a man had a chance encounter with Israel Keyes weeks before his arrest. Years later this reticent tipster shared their story, not knowing it might help unlock the secrets that could lead to a family getting resolution.In this episode we give you a behind-the-scenes look at how two shows came together to bring the FBI their first good lead on a cache since Israel's death, 12 years ago. While also Revealing one major clue that made this tip stand out. And SA Halla provides us with new evidence that will forever change the direction of the investigation.

With Special Guests:

SA Ted Halla, Steven Bernd, and Amy Alexander

Josh Hallmark of True Crime Bullsh**

and introducing a new member of the team Drew Rubin

Researched, Written, Recorded, Edited, and Produced by Somewhere in the Pines
All audio containing Special Agent Ted Halla belong to Somewhere in the Pines and may not be used without written consent. 

a special thank you to our Patreon Producers:

Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Colleen Sullivan
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Attar Mann
Katelyn James
and Stephanie Maksimow

This is a Studio BOTH/AND collaboration: www.somewhereinthepines.com / bothand.fyi  For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand  For early episodes and more: www.Patreon.com/somewhereinthepines

Resources:
Researcher Kim K. and Josh Hallmark
FBI Case File
Special Forces Caching Techniques Manual
Montage - CBSN LiveCBS NEWSNBC5 - WPTZKPTV

Music:
"part 2" by Dirt Jake Replicas
"Mend" by Dirt Jake Replicas
Backing Tracks: GarageBand Loops

Today's episode, True Crime Fest Northwest 2024, features Kim K. from the True Crime Bullsh** team, as she asks us the most asked questions from our weekend at the event. 
We'd also like to say that it was really great to meet so many of you last weekend! We had some great conversations and met some really incredible people.
We hope you enjoy the episode!

We'd also like to thank our Patreon Producers:
Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Colleen Sullivan
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Attar Mann
And Katelyn James

If you have a tip, please call 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324)

In our third interview ever, we call in for an hour long conversation with FBI SA Ted Halla from the Western Washington Seattle division. An Agent that once sat across the table from Israel Keyes. Finding out how important this case still is to law enforcement and just how much information the FBI is willing to share.
In this episode, we begin to Fact check leads from the case file as we break down whether jurisdictional lines were a part of Israel's plan. Which leads to us discovering a new point on the map to add to the investigation.

With Special Guests:SA Ted Halla, Steven Bernd, and Amy Alexander
Private Investigator Haydn Dolata
Anonymous Federal Law Enforcement Officer
Peggy from Truth in the Shadow Podcast

Researched, Written, Recorded, Edited, and Produced by Somewhere in the Pines

 Patreon Producers:
Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Colleen Sullivan
Rochelle Roberts
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Attar Mann

This is a Studio BOTH/AND collaboration: www.somewhereinthepines.com / bothand.fyi  
For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand  
For early episodes and more: www.Patreon.com/somewhereinthepines

Resources:
"From the Special Agent in charge" - Richard A. Collodi
Researcher Kim K.
CBS NEWS: FBI reveals new evidence in hopes of identifying unknown victims of serial killer
By Peter Van Sant
March 13, 2021 / 10:05 PM EST / CBS News
FBI Case File
Special Forces Caching Techniques Manual

Montage -
CBSN Live
CBS NEWS
NBC5 - WPTZ
KPTV
Music: "part 2" by Dirt Jake Replicas
"Mend" by Dirt Jake Replicas
Backing Tracks: GarageBand Loops

After his 2009 Tupper Lake NY crime spree, Israel Keyes buried his guns and left his shovel, 97 miles east next to the Winooski River in the heart of Vermont. This Cache of weapons remained hidden just off of Vermont’s Hwy 15 in the Woodside Natural Area until 2011, when he used the items inside to abduct and murder a married couple less than 2 miles away. In this episode Joshua wraps up his trip in the NE by retracing Keyes’ steps in Essex, and we discover what could be a new understanding of how Israel chose his locations to commit crime.

Music: "part 2" by Dirt Jake Replicas
"Mend" by Dirt Jake Replicas
Backing Tracks: Somewhere In The Pines

Researched, Written, Recorded, Edited, and Produced by Somewhere in the Pines

Patreon Producers:
Heather Horton Whedon
Nicole Guzman
Colleen Sullivan
Rochelle Roberts
Lynnlie Tuschoff
Attar Mann

For early episodes and more: www.Patreon.com/somewhereinthepines

This is a Studio BOTH/AND collaboration: www.somewhereinthepines.com / bothand.fyi  For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand  

With Special Guests:SA Ted Halla and Steven Bernd

Resources:
Montage -
CBSN Live
CBS NEWS
NBC5 - WPTZ
KPTV