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This is Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender.
Join rugby legends Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, Tom Shanklin & Scott Quinnell as they share real stories, fresh perspectives, and dive into everything you love about the game.
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š Welcome to The Overlap Rugby! š
This is Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender.
Join rugby legends Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, Tom Shanklin & Scott Quinnell as they share real stories, fresh perspectives, and dive into everything you love about the game.
We'll have legendary guests from ex-pros, to celebrity fans. This is your front-row seat to everything rugby - from unforgettable moments to untold stories.
š Available now wherever you get your podcasts and on @TheOverlapRugby YouTube channel.
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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes England and Leicester Tigers star Ollie Chessum to the panel alongside Katy Daley-McLean, Scott Quinnell, Tom Shanklin, and Topsy Ojo! šØ
Ollie opens up about his incredible journey from a Leicester academy prospect to England international, the injury that nearly ended his career, and what it really took to fight his way back to fitness. šŖ
He lifts the lid on Lions selection shock, being made Leicester Tigers captain, and the hilarious initiation secrets from inside England and Lions camps. š¦š
From recovery setbacks to leadership lessons, this is an honest, funny and inspiring chat with one of English rugbyās brightest talents! š¹š„
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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Jonathan Joseph to the panel alongside Katy Daley-McLean, Scott Quinnell, Tom Shanklin, and Topsy Ojo! šØ
Jonathan opens up on his incredible journey from Bath to Biarritz, the challenges of life in France š«š·, and the truth behind his retirement decision. He reflects on the highs of playing for England, the heartbreak of injuries, and the possibility of one final comeback... š
From Six Nations glory to tough career choices and what life looks like after professional rugby, this is Jonathan Joseph as youāve never heard him before ā honest, reflective and refreshingly open. š
A must-watch conversation with one of Englandās most gifted backs. Donāt miss it! š„
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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, opens with a heartfelt tribute to Lewis Moody following the devastating news of his MND diagnosis.
Phil Vickery shares personal memories, and the panel reflects on Lewisās impact on the game and the outpouring of support thatās followed.
Rugby League takes centre stage as Mike McMeeken and Martin Offiah join Phil Vickery, Scott Quinnell and Tom Shanklin to mark the return of the Ashes. Offiah looks ahead to England vs Australia and why the rivalry still matters, while McMeeken gives his take on the current squad, who to watch, and what to expect from this new era of international league.
The panel also debates the biggest differences between league and union, and why so many playersālike Sam Burgess, Jason Robinson and Scott himselfāmade the switch.
Martin Offiah looks back on his favourite game and opens up about watching his son Tyler rise through the ranks. With Super League Final predictions and memories from Wembley, this is an episode full of passion, insight, and proper rugby league respect.
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00:00 - Rugby League Opener
01:45 - Emotional Lewis Moody Tribute
07:44 - Teaser
08:45 - Rugby League Quiz
13:00 - Ashes Return to Rugby League
19:58 - Predictions & Mal Meninga
23:34 - Ones to Watch & What To Expect
27:52 - Super League Grand Final
29:24 - NRL vs Super League Debate
32:50 - Rugby Union vs League
37:38 - Rise of Womenās Rugby League
39:00 - Grand Final Predictions
42:00 - Mike McMeekenās Introduction to Rugby
46:35 - Rugby League Scene
50:31 - Mike McMeekenās Biggest Challenges
52:10 - Martin Offiahās Greatest Moments
55:40 - Scott Quinnellās Rugby League Career
56:45 - Scottās Favourite Offiah Moments
01:00:19 - Community Questions
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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes England international Henry Slade and WORLD CUP WINNER (š„³) Sarah Bern to the panel alongside Katy Daley-McLean, Scott Quinnell and Tom Shanklin and Topsy Ojo! šØ
Sarah opens up about her journey from the back row to becoming one of the worldās best props, the reality of body image in womenās rugby, and what it felt like to lift the World Cup with the Red Roses. She also reflects on the heartbreak of defeat, the brutal demands of set-piece training, and the record-breaking crowds transforming the womenās game. š
Henry reveals the truth about being dropped from the England squad, the highs and lows of his World Cup campaigns, and what loyalty to Exeter Chiefs means after more than a decade at the club. He also shares memories of playing with Sam Burgess, living with Type 1 diabetes, and his hopes for England in 2025. š
An honest, powerful and revealing conversation with two of the most fascinating figures in English rugby. This is NOT to be missed! š
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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes Black Ferns star Ruby TuiāOlympic champion, World Cup winner, and one of rugbyās most electrifying voicesāalongside Katy Daley-McLean, Phil Vickery, and Tom Shanklin for a conversation full of laughs, vulnerability and unforgettable stories.
Ruby opens up about her upbringing in New Zealand, how sport gave her a sense of purpose, and choosing between netball and rugby. She also shares the real story of when she met King Charles at Buckingham Palace.
Ruby reflects on New Zealandās semi-final loss to Canada, her honest assessment of what went wrong, and bold predictions for the World Cup final. She also talks through the meaning of the haka, the emotional power of wearing the Black Ferns jersey, and what inspired her book Straight Up.
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00:00 ā Bread Talk, Cookbooks & Scottās Horror Injury
06:05 ā Teaser
07:09 ā Ruby Tui Joins & Kiwi Snack Chat
09:12 ā Who Am I: All Blacks & Black Ferns Edition
12:33 ā When Ruby Met King Charles
18:11 ā Growing Up in New Zealand
21:35 ā How Sport Gave Ruby Belonging
27:35 ā When Ruby Knew Rugby Was It
30:48 ā Weight of the New Zealand Jersey
35:39 ā Rio 2016 & Olympic Village Stories
40:39 ā Winning Olympic Gold in Tokyo
42:48 ā The Power of the Haka
48:01 ā Winning the 2021 Rugby World Cup
53:01 ā Losing to Canada Reaction
55:50 ā England vs Canada Semi-Final Preview
01:01:47 ā The Real Ruby & Katy Daley McLean
01:05:24 ā Rubyās Memoir: Straight Up
01:09:16 ā Growth of the Womenās Game
01:11:08 ā Community Questions
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Thereās š§šš„šš World Cup winners on the latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, as rugby icon š š®š“š“š¶š² šš¹š½šµš¼š»šš¶ is welcomed to the panel alongside Katy Daley-McLean, Phil Vickery, Scott Quinnell and Tom Shanklin. š¤©
Maggie opens up about her remarkable journey from a council estate in South London to lifting the Rugby World Cup with the Red Roses. š¹
She reveals how being born with clubfoot became her superpower, the teacher who first pushed her into rugby, and what it was like to play at a time when womenās rugby was still fighting for recognition. š
She also reflects on the highs and lows of her England career from the heartbreak of losing World Cup finals to the relief of finally winning in 2014 and the teammates and role models who inspired her along the way. š
Away from the pitch, Maggie discusses life after rugby, her work breaking barriers in sport, and how sheās mistaken for England captain to this day (which Katy is having none of!) šš§
An honest, powerful and inspiring conversation with one of the most influential figures in rugby.
This one is NOT to be missed!
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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, features ex-England Sevens player and now Gladiators star Alex Gray, alongside Topsy Ojo, Katy Daley-McLean, Scott Quinnell and Tom Shanklin
From the Newcastle Red Bulls to the NFL with the Atlanta Falcons, and now starring as Apollo on Gladiators, Alex opens up about his unique journey across rugby, American football, and primetime TV.
The panel dives into his transition between sports, why rugby lost him to the NFL, and whether heād ever make a return. Alex shares what filming Gladiators was really like behind the scenes, how it pushed him physically and mentally, and the surprising pressures of fame.
Thereās plenty of rugby chat tooāfrom the future of Sevens, to the talent coming through in the UK, and what itās like forging a new identity beyond the pitch.
00:00 - On the Road Again
03:56 - Teaser
04:46 - Behind-the-Scenes & Delicacy of the Week
06:10 - How āApolloā Got His Name
07:26 - True or False: Quiz
10:15 - Diet, Training & Game-Ready Physique
12:13 - Gladiator Names
13:01 - Auditioning for Gladiators
19:47 - Gladiator Pressure & Nerves
23:50 - Early Life & Rugby Roots
29:44 - Topsy Ojoās Memory of Young Alex
31:58 - Switching Codes: 15s to Sevens
36:00 - Rio 2016 Olympic Heartbreak
38:29 - Biggest Rugby Regret
40:13 - Womenās Rugby World Cup
48:16 - First Brit to Captain an NFL Pre-Season Game
54:52 - Rugby or NFL?
59:28 - Time at Bath Rugby
01:03:07 - Louis Rees-Zammitās Return to Rugby
01:05:04 - Either/Or Quiz
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Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, is back and š¢š» š§šµš² š„š¼š®š± as they go for a spin around Bath with England's Mackenzie Carson!
Carson talks all things Red Roses, how she made the daring switch from representing Canada to donning an England shirt, growing up playing ice hockey, her relationship with fellow Red Rose Sarah Bern and much more! š¹
A jam-packed World Cup special that you do not want to miss! š
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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, welcomes broadcasting legend Clare Balding to the panel alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, Scott Quinnell and Tom Shanklin. šØ
Clare opens up about her time at the heart of rugby league, why she believes the sport has fallen behind union, and what needs to change to secure its future. She reflects on the impact of the London 2012 Olympics, how it became a turning point for womenās sport, and what sheās seen since in terms of growth and visibility. š
Away from rugby, Clare shares behind-the-scenes stories from Celebrity Traitors, the challenges of fronting huge national events, and how her passion for sport has shaped her broadcasting career. š§
A wide-ranging and inspiring conversation with one of the most respected voices in British sport. It is NOT to be missed!
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Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, is back as Lawrence Dallaglio, Tom Shanklin, Scott Quinell and Red Roses legend Nolli Waterman are joined by Welsh rugby legend Shane Williams.
From being told he was too small for rugby to becoming World Player of the Year, Shane opens up on his remarkable journey through the highs and lows of Welsh rugby. He reveals the truth about his bust-up with Warren Gatland, what it was really like during Walesā golden era, and how he ended up coming out of retirement for the Lions! š¦
The group also dive into Shaneās debut against New Zealand, the pressure of international rugby, and why beating England always meant so much. š“ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó æ
With just two days until the Red Roses launch their World Cup campaign, we look at what success will looks like for England and Nolli tells how pressure has such a big affect on players, no matter how good they are! š¹
š„ A mix of brutal honesty, behind-the-scenes stories, and iconic rugby moments you wonāt want to miss.
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Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, is back with a bang as ex-special forces Jason Fox parachutes into the studio for a hard-hitting episode with Katy Daley-Mclean, Lawrence Dallaglio, Topsy Ojo and Lewis Moody just in time for the Womenās World Cup. šŖ
Jason lifts the lid on covert missions, reveals SAS: Who Dares Wins intel, and debriefs us on what happened when Lawrence and his England teammates faced a brutal military-style boot camp. He also opens up about his battle with PTSD, the mission to stay authentic, and why pressure either makes or breaks you.
Elsewhere, Katy and the team preview the tournamentās biggest talking points and are joined by actor Amy Nelsen, who plays Emily Valentine, the first recorded female rugby player, in Defenderās new World Cup campaign. š
From leadership and mental resilience to iconic rugby stories and historic moments this is a powerful episode you wonāt want to miss.
Over and out š«”
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Coming to you from Down Under, we've got a Shanks and Scott special episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, break down all the drama from the Lions' final test. š
Was a 3ā0 Lions whitewash on the cards? Did Australia do enough to earn their win? And should Rugby Australia be worried about whatās coming next?
The lads dig into the series highs and lows, assess standout players, and chat about how impressed they were with the travelling Lions' fans! š¦
Big opinions, test match fallout, and plenty of tour chaos all from the heart of Australia. š¦šŗ
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Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, returns with Lawrence Dallaglio and Katy Daly-McLean joined by birthday boy Topsy Ojo and England World Cup winner Lewis Moody!
Lewis reflects on the moment he became the first England player in 105 years to get a red card at Twickenham, relives his 2003 World Cup memories, and reveals the truth behind his āMad Dogā nickname, including that infamous scrap with Alex Tuilagi.
Topsy opens up about scoring twice on debut against New Zealand (and still getting dropped), how close he came to joining Toulouse, and the moment he decided to give rugby one last shot on a gap year.
The panel also debates the Lionsā epic comeback against Australia, whether Englandās fly-half debate is finally settled, and how Maro Itoje has handled captaincy on tour.
From red cards and World Cup glory to family lessons, drinking culture and missed opportunities, this is Lewis and Topsy as youāve never heard them before.
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Topsy Ojo and Lewis Moody join Lawrence and Katy this week as they sit down with England legend Neil Back for an unfiltered look back at one of rugbyās most fascinating careers.
Neil reflects on the controversies that defined him ā from being banned for (allegedly) pushing a referee to masterminding the infamous āHand of Backā in the 2002 European Cup Final and if he has any regrets.
Thereās plenty of British & Irish Lions reaction too, as the panel debates this yearās squad, Neil shares his Lions memories and lifts the lid on what really happens on tour.
He opens up about his journey from being laughed at as a youngster to lifting the 2003 World Cup, and explains how a six-month ban shaped the player he became.
There are stories of brutal bleep tests, fierce rivalries and chaotic moments ā including the time Back knocked out a fan after the 1999 World Cup.
00:00 - Lewis Moody & Topsy Ojo Step In For Shanks & Scott!
05:07 - Dream Teammates: Past or Present
08:25 - Teaser
09:33 - Behind-the-Scenes & Delicacy of the Week
10:09 - Quickfire Questions
20:24 - Neil Backās Sporting Upbringing
24:05 - Breaking the Mould as a Back Row Forward
28:01 - Nottingham, Leicester & England U21s
32:07 - Leicester Standout Moments
35:27 - Drinking Culture
37:41 - Leicester vs Wasps Rivalry
40:47 - Pilkington Cup Final & 6-Month Ban
42:37 - The Hand of Back Explained
47:27 - Englandās 2003 World Cup Win
50:00 - Fight With a Fan in 1999
52:20 - Dean Richards & Clive Woodward
55:15 - The Holy Trinity Back Row
01:00:09 - World Cup Anti-Climax?
01:02:45 - Lions First Test Picks & New Format Debate
01:12:45 - Either/Or Quiz
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Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, is back as Lawrence Dallaglio, Tom Shanklin, Scott Quinnell and special guest host Sarah Hunter sit down with one of Welsh rugbyās most recognisable names: Gavin Henson! š“ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó æ
Gavin opens up about his unique career journey, from filming The Bachelor when he got called up to play for Wales, to what it really means to retire on your own terms. He lifts the lid on the routines that shaped him, his love of football (and setting up Super Fox United!), and how supporting Man United fuelled his passion for sport.
The team dive into Gavinās best memories in the Wales shirt, plus Lions predictions, playing both league and union, and the position he always loved most.
Gavin also shares how The Chimp Paradox changed his mindset, why coaching can be so tough, and what heās up to now with his company U-Test and his pub, The Fox.
And yes, we couldnāt resist ranking some of his most iconic haircuts too! šāāļø
One of rugbyās most fascinating characters, opening up on fame, football, fond memories and future plans.
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Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, is back ā and this week weāre joined by legendary Michelin-starred chef Tom Kerridge, alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Tom Shanklin, Katy Daley-Mclean and Scott Quinnell.
Tom lifts the lid on his incredible journey from the rugby pitch in Gloucester to running one of the UKās most acclaimed kitchens. He shares how his time in the front row shaped his career, the high-pressure crossover between rugby and fine dining, and what he learned from chefs like Rick Stein and shows like Great British Menu.
The team dive into everything from Shanksā baking, feeding rugby players vs Williams Racing, and Tom being snubbed on the F1 grid at Silverstone 2025 by Martin Brundle... for Tom Holland.
On the rugby front, thereās pride in coaching his sonās team, shoutouts for rising stars like Henry Pollock, and strong views on the British & Irish Lions and the Owen Farrell vs George Ford debate ā with Andy Farrell never far from the conversation.
Tom also opens up about his alcohol recovery, mental health, and the mindset it took to earn multiple Michelin Stars, all while navigating fame, TV and the intensity of hospitality life.
Oh, and thereās Glastonbury chat, Oasis love, and an unexpected pit stop from Scottā¦
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Stick to Rugby is hitting the road once again, brought to you by Defender, as Lawrence Dallaglio and Tom Shanklin sit down with Englandās Mike Brown.
Brown opens up about the mindset that made him one of the Premiershipās fiercest competitors, why Harlequins and England meant everything to him, and how he handled the big fall-out with Eddie Jones.
He reflects on the controversial Premiership Final, the chip on his shoulder that fuelled his career, and the clashes (including a secret punch in the š from Dallaglio in a ruck) that shaped him on the pitch.
The lads also tackle what rugby needs to fix for the next generation, the pressures of international selection, and whether Brown regrets how it all ended with England.
Brutally honest, fiery and full of stories⦠this is Mike Brown as youāve never heard him before!
00:00 On the Road is BACK!
01:27 Reacting to Gallagher Premiership Final Loss
04:35 What Michael Cheika brought to Leicester Tigers
06:08 The Secret to Mike Brownās Longevity
12:18 How Mike got into Rugby
21:00 Mikeās Relationship with the Media and THAT Interview
23:11 Most Proud Moments in Mikeās Career
26:05 How Mikeās Relationship with Eddie Jones Changed
30:33 Mikeās Bestfriends in Rugby
32:55 Mikeās Toughest Opposition
37:04 Most Underrated Players
38:45 Players who Taught Mike the Most
42:45 Best Moments in Mikeās Career
44:50 Life After Retirement
48:00 Mikeās Call to Arms to Help Rugby
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We take Stick to Rugby on the road again this week, brought to you by Defender, as Lawrence Dallaglio and Scott Quinnell are joined by rugby legend Kevin Sinfield.
From signing pro at just 13 to captaining that iconic Leeds Rhinos side and now coaching with England, Kevin opens up about the highs and heartbreaks of a remarkable career including what it was like losing five Challenge Cup finals and his incredible friendship with Rob Burrow
They dive into Sinfieldās biggest sliding door moments, whether he prefers rugby union or league, and the powerful truth behind raising millions for MND.
Plus, he lifts the lid on his England role, coaching philosophy and the advice heād give to his younger self!
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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees hosts Lawrence Dallaglio, Thomas Shanklin, and Katy Daley-Mclean sit down with Louis Rees-Zammit for a rapid-fire, globe-trotting episode packed with personal reflections, jaw-dropping transitions, and untold stories from both sides.
Rees-Zammit kicks things off with quickfire questions before opening up on his early love for football, his obsession with Cristiano Ronaldo, and the American football influence he soaked up at home thanks to his dad. He reveals the moment he was told heād never play for Wales after leaving Cardiff Blues ā and how he proved everyone wrong by making his Test debut just years later.
He relives his proudest moment in a Wales jersey, what it meant to finally play in front of Welsh fans, and doesnāt shy away from the teamās recent struggles. Thereās Lions chat too ā from the surreal COVID tour that āfelt like training gamesā to passing the torch (and mascot duties) on to Pollock.
Then itās all eyes on the NFL. Rees-Zammit shares how he knew it was time to make the leap, the brutal reality of trying to make it in the States, and how it felt getting picked up by the Kansas City Chiefs. He reveals the physical toll of NFL training (rugby players beware), reflects on the massive life decision he faced at 22, and the inspiration he took from Travis Clayton. Oh ā and thereās a surprise letter from Taylor Swift.
Finally, he answers the big question: could a return to rugby still be on the cards? And what has he come to love most about life in America?
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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees hosts Lawrence Dallaglio, Louis Rees-Zammit, and Katy Daley-Mclean welcome Wallaby legend George Gregan for a fast-paced, story-packed deep dive into finals pressure, Rugby League rumours, and the magic of biggest moments.
Rees-Zammit reflects on the surreal moment he was picked for the Lions at 19, and the huge sense of relief when a defender pulled up just before a 1v1 in the final. He lifts the lid on Finn Russellās leadership, his outrageous performance at the weekend ā and why he's the guy that holds it all together. Gregan agrees⦠and admits Finn seriously worries him.
Gregan breaks down who to watch for the Wallabies this summer and gives his verdict on the Australia Womenās chances against the USA at the World Cup. He takes us back to that tackle on Jeff Wilson, winning the '99 World Cup, and the roar of 40,000 fans at the Hong Kong 7s. He also shares who inspired him growing up ā and who really calls the shots in a team full of egos.
Thereās code-switching chat too: Gregan on nearly jumping to Rugby League in the 90s ā and Dallaglio revealing when the Bradford Bulls came knocking.
Plus, the panel break down Bathās massive Premiership final win and share what makes a defining moment at the top level.
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