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TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
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TechMagic with Cathy Hackl helps you navigate the future and make sense of today’s rapid technological change. Hear unique perspectives, explore new trends, and journey into the heart of technology. TechMagic is a must-listen for anyone passionate about the future of tech because Arthur C. Clarke said it best: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

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TechMagic with Cathy Hackl helps you navigate the future and make sense of today’s rapid technological change. Hear unique perspectives, explore new trends, and journey into the heart of technology. TechMagic is a must-listen for anyone passionate about the future of tech because Arthur C. Clarke said it best: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

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TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
Greatest Hits: Love in the Age of AI: Cathy Hackl with Samantha G Wolfe on Dating, Ethics, and Cathy’s Tech Intimacy Scale

In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, host Cathy Hackl is joined by Samantha G Wolfe, founder of PitchFWD and NYU adjunct professor, to explore how AI and emerging tech are redefining relationships. From AI-generated love letters to dating in virtual environments, they examine the evolving boundaries between authentic connection and digital convenience. The duo discusses the ethics of emotional AI, the importance of human messiness, and the need for “non-AI pledges” in romance. Packed with Cathy’s real-world experiments and insightful commentary, this episode is essential for anyone navigating love, intimacy, and connection in a world increasingly shaped by technology.


What you will learn:

  • How AI companions are being used beyond loneliness relief
  • Why the "messiness" of human relationships remains valuable 
  • How to navigate the balance between technology-enhanced and authentic human connections in modern dating using Cathy’s Tech Intimacy Scale
  • The emerging challenges of AI-generated messages in relationships
  • Why creating "non-AI relationship pledges" might become important 
  • How spatial computing and 3D interactions could transform the future of digital dating and what Cathy’s building to disrupt this space 
  • Why human presence and in-person connections remain crucial 


Come for the tech, stay for the magic!


Samantha G Wolfe Bio

Samantha G Wolfe is the founder of Pitch Forward and an adjunct professor at NYU, where she teaches pioneering courses on avatars, AI agents, and virtual beings. With a background in psychology, television, and emerging tech, Sam specializes in brand strategy for bleeding-edge technologies, helping visionary companies clearly articulate their value and future impact. Her expertise spans AI, spatial computing, XR, haptics, and metaverse innovation across 20+ industries. Known for her clarity, depth, and contagious enthusiasm, she bridges the gap between innovation and understanding through thought leadership, marketing strategy, and education, empowering the world to grasp the true potential of tomorrow’s tech.


Samantha G Wolfe on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic: Special Episode on Tech, Love & Life
  • 02:47 Dating in the Age of AI: Government Restrictions and Digital Romance
  • 12:20 Beyond Loneliness: The Many Reasons People Use AI Companions
  • 16:05 The Value of Human "Messiness" in Relationships
  • 21:00 Reimagining Digital Dating Through 3D Presence
  • 38:15 The Non-AI Relationship Pledge: Setting Digital Boundaries
  • 44:53 The Tech Intimacy Scale: Finding Balance in Modern Love
  • 50:20 Dating AI Chatbots: A Week-Long Experiment Preview
  • 58:54 Closing Thoughts: The Future of Human Connection

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2 days ago
54 minutes 48 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
Greatest Hits - Meta XR, Snap Glasses, AI Dating, Apple AR, and Story Living with Cathy Hackl and Adam Davis McGee

In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Adam Davis McGee dive into the cutting edge of spatial computing, AI, and extended reality. Join Cathy and Adam as they unpack Meta’s XR partnership with Palmer Luckey, Snap’s smart glasses ambitions, and Apple’s sleek AR design strategy. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe coding and discovers anyone can gamify the pitfalls of the dating scene. The conversation also explores AI dating experiments, haptic tech in entertainment, and the evolving ethics of privacy in a spatially connected world. With insights from AWE and ILMxLAB, they reflect on the shift from storytelling to “story living” and highlight key legislation shaping AI security. A must-listen for anyone tracking the future of tech-human interaction.

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Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Adam Davis-McGee Bio

Adam Davis-McGee is a dynamic Creative Director and Producer specializing in immersive storytelling across XR and traditional media. As Senior Producer at Journey, he led the virtual studio, pioneering cutting-edge virtual experiences. He developed a Web3 playbook for Yum! Brands, integrating blockchain and NFT strategies. At Condé Nast, Adam produced engaging video content for Wired and Ars Technica, amplifying digital storytelling. His groundbreaking XR journalism project, In Protest: Grassroots Stories from the Frontlines (Oculus/Meta), captured historic moments in VR. Passionate about pushing creative boundaries, Adam thrives on crafting innovative narratives that captivate audiences worldwide.


Adam Davis-McGee on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl
  • 06:33 Meta's Eagle Eye: Military XR Partnership with Palmer Luckey
  • 14:05 Apple's Liquid Glass: Paving the Way for AR Glasses
  • 17:25 Haptic Innovation: Apple's F1 Movie Trailer Experience
  • 19:18 Human vs AI: Why F1 Racing Needs the Human Element
  • 22:27 Browser History Dating: AI's Latest Match-Making Experiment
  • 26:27 Snap's Vision: Consumer Smart Glasses Coming in 2026
  • 31:27 From Storytelling to Story Living: ILMxLAB's Immersive Future
  • 33:54 Closing Thoughts: Summer Break Announcement



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1 week ago
29 minutes 53 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
AI Hardware Shifts, RAM Price Spikes, Google–Warby Parker Wearables, Meta’s MR Delays, and the Battle for AI Music Rights with Lee Kebler, Adam Davis McGee, and Ryan McMahan

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee unpack the rapid shifts transforming AI, hardware, and creative industries. Cathy is away this week and will be back in the new year. Lee and Adam explore how RAM manufacturers are pivoting away from consumer electronics toward AI, and how this will spike gaming and device prices in 2026, why Meta’s mixed-reality delays open the door for Google’s surprising partnership with Warby Parker, and how Google may be quietly edging ahead in the AI race. In the second half, Lee speaks with Ryan McMahan, who breaks down the legal and ethical storm surrounding AI-generated music. Together, they examine copyright grey zones, artist rights, and why AI is becoming more of an accelerant for creativity than a replacement for human artistry.


Come for the tech and stay for the magic!


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 01:40: RAM Shortage Will Devastate Consumer Electronics Pricing in 2026
  • 06:12: Meta's Mixed Reality Delay & the Battle Between Google and Meta
  • 11:29: Why Google Will Win the AI Race Over OpenAI
  • 23:52: AI Music Generation and the Copyright Crisis on Spotify
  • 33:28: Meet Ryan McMahan: Artist Manager Fighting for Creator Rights
  • 35:34: Blanco Brown's Story: From Platinum to Fighting AI
  • 38:50: The First Major Artist Covers an AI-Generated Song
  • 40:45: Understanding Covers vs. Derivatives in Copyright Law
  • 45:51: AI as a Creative Tool, Not a Job Replacement
  • 50:32: The Fast Fashion Problem in Modern Music Production
  • 57:31: Independent Artists Need Representation at Policy Tables
  • 01:01:45: Creative Industry Workers Share AI Concerns and Opportunities
  • 01:04:17: Meta's Consent Prompt: Is Algorithmic Boost Tied to AI Training Permission?
  • 01:05:59: Key Takeaways: AI, Copyright, and the Future of Creative Work



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2 weeks ago
1 hour 1 minute 42 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
F1 Tech and Cadillac Enters the Track in 2026, Humanoid Robots at MWC Doha and Vision Action Models.

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore how the future of AI is being shaped through hardware innovation happening around the world. They break down breakthroughs in autonomous vehicles, humanoid robots, and spatial computing, highlighting why hardware ownership now determines who controls data, training models, and long-term AI power. Cathy shares insights from her travels across Saudi Arabia and Qatar, while the hosts examine China’s accelerating hardware ecosystem, Gen Alpha’s rejection of “AI slop,” and the shift toward vision-action models. It’s a fast, global look at where AI is really advancing, and why it matters.


Come for the tech and stay for the magic!



Key Discussion Topics: 


  • [00:00] Intro
  • [00:23] Saudi Arabia and Qatar are booming in tech and entertainment.
  • [00:04:00] Formula One tech highlights the Abu Dhabi Championship showdown.
  • [00:07:13] Autonomous racing vs. human drivers shows motorsports’ future.
  • [00:10:23] NVIDIA's AlphaMoor offers open-source vision-language models.
  • [00:14:23] Women often prefer autonomous vehicles to human drivers.
  • [00:20:44] Owning hardware means owning data: the AI supremacy principle.
  • [00:22:19] Global hardware innovations from Alibaba, Huawei, and ByteDance are under the radar.
  • [00:26:51] "Human-authored" labels reveal widespread AI fatigue.
  • [00:30:05] Gen Alpha rejects AI content, demanding authentic creations.
  • [00:33:55] Copyright issues arise when sampling AI-generated music.
  • [00:37:03] Cathy’s Middle East speaking tour and CES 2025 lineup updates.
  • [00:39:33] Holiday spending is shifting to experiences over products.
  • [00:42:14] Book picks: the future of storytelling and understanding people.
  • [00:44:49] Gaming culture highlights: Dungeon Crawler Carl, FNAF 2, and Stranger Things.
  • [00:46:34] Key takeaways: physical AI, hardware ownership, and authentic human connection.



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3 weeks ago
46 minutes 38 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
Digital Presence, AI-Driven Noise, Content Repurposing, Real-World Experiences, and Brand Differentiation with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and David Cash

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler break down the biggest shifts shaping tech, entertainment, and personal branding. They explore emerging trends, from real-world experiences like Beastland, to the growing influence of spatial computing, and why authentic human content is becoming a premium as AI saturation rises. In the second half, Cathy sits down with David Cash, Founder and CSO of Cash Labs, Founder and Executive Producer of Catalyst Content Haus and Head of Marketing and acting CMO of DeLorean Labs, to discuss building a future-proof personal brand, repurposing content at scale, and why founders must take ownership of their digital presence now. Together, they reveal practical strategies for standing out and earning trust in an AI-driven media landscape.


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David Cash Bio:


David Cash is the Founder of Cash Labs and Catalyst, recognized as a leading force in bringing Web3 and emerging technologies to market. After a 12-year acting career and seven years running a production company, working on campaigns for brands like Brisk, Gaviscon, and Netflix, David became an early leader in Web3, authoring the first Master’s thesis on NFTs and producing Metaverse Fashion Week. Through Cash Labs, his work has driven billions of impressions and major revenue for global brands. His newest venture, Catalyst, helps executives create high-impact, future-ready content.


David Cash on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics: 


  • 00:00 Intro: Tech Magic Returns from the Middle East
  • 00:03 Beastland: MrBeast's Pop-Up Amusement Park Phenomenon in Riyadh
  • 00:08 Apple Vision Pro & Real Madrid: The Future of Immersive Sports Content
  • 00:12 Tim Cook's Potential Departure and Apple's Need for Disruption
  • 00:16 Meta Quest 3S at Costco for $200: The VR Hardware Game Heats Up
  • 00:20 Meet David Cash: From Child Actor to Web3 Pioneer and Content Strategist
  • 00:24 Why Business Leaders Must Own Their Content Strategy Now
  • 00:27 Catalyst: Productizing Executive Content Creation Into a Luxury Service
  • 00:30 How to Build a Personal Brand Session in One Day
  • 00:33 The Dead Internet Theory: Why Authentic Voices Are Your Competitive Moat
  • 00:36 Syndication Strategy: Turn One Piece of Content Into 1,000 Assets
  • 00:37 Legacy Media Still Matters: Why Adweek and Vogue Amplify Personal Brands
  • 00:40 The Evolution of Entertainment: From Broadway to Authentic Vlogging
  • 00:43 Human-Crafted Content as Luxury: The OnlyFans to OnlyWalks Future
  • 00:44 The Metaverse Isn't Web3: Redefining Virtual Spaces and Digital Identity
  • 00:48 How Your Content Choices Today Shape Your XR Future Tomorrow
  • 00:52 AI as a Tool: When to Use Generative Tech and When to Create Authentically
  • 00:53 The "Human Authored" Label: Why AI Slop Is Making Credibility Scarce
  • 00:57 Silicon Valley's Billion-Dollar Paradox: Oracle, SoftBank, and Unsustainable Bets
  • 01:00 Hardware Matters: Why Lam Research Is the Invisible Infrastructure Winner
  • 01:03 Key Takeaways: Personal Branding, Content Strategy, and the Human Edge



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1 month ago
1 hour 4 minutes 8 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
AI Hype Cycles, Coca-Cola’s 70K-Prompt Misstep, Spotify’s AI Slop Battle, VR’s Killer-App Problem, Pokémon GO’s Execution Edge & Digital Passports with Lee Kebler and Andrew Schwartz

AI is booming, VR is evolving, and AR is exploding into the real world—but most of it still feels underwhelming.


On this week’s episode of TechMagic, host Lee Kebler welcomes Andrew Schwartz while host Cathy Hackl is away. Andrew is the Director of Metaverse Engineering at Nike, and together, they unpack the realities behind today’s AI hype cycle, revealing why generative AI can feel both astonishing and underwhelming. They explore brand risks in AI-driven content, the fight against AI slop in music distribution, and the long road to mainstream VR and AR adoption. Andrew and Lee also break down Pokémon GO’s execution-first success and the rise of identity-based tech, from digital product passports to personalized, location-aware experiences, offering a clear-eyed look at what truly comes next in immersive technology.


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Andrew Schwartz Bio

Andrew Schwartz is a technology strategist and the Director of Metaverse Engineering at Nike, where he pioneered emerging technology integration within the Technology Innovation Office. Having coined the title "godmother of the metaverse" for industry luminary Cathy Hackl, Andrew brings deep expertise in blockchain identity, XR/AR/VR technologies, and spatial computing. 


Andrew Schwartz on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics: 


  • [00:00] Intro
  • [00:00] Welcome to Tech Magic with Andrew Schwartz
  • [00:01] How "Godmother of the Metaverse" Became Cathy Hackl's Defining Title
  • [00:03] Nike's Metaverse Engineering and Emerging Technologies
  • [00:06] Technology First vs. Outcome First: The Real AI Hype Cycle Challenge
  • [00:13] Why Coca-Cola's 70,000-Prompt AI Christmas Ad Reveals a Deeper Problem
  • [00:16] Imperfection as Strategy: When Flaws Build Brand Trust
  • [00:21] The AI Music Crisis: How Spotify and CD Baby Protect Indie Artists
  • [00:27] Copyright, Authenticity, and the Future of AI-Generated Content
  • [00:31] VR Headsets Are Impressive—But Where's the Killer App?
  • [00:34] Apple Vision Pro: Great Technology, Missing Experience
  • [00:36] Why Beat Saber Succeeded Where Other VR Games Failed
  • [00:38] Content Over Hardware: Lessons from iPhone, iPod, and Atari
  • [00:40] Pokemon Go Wasn't About AR—It Was About the Brand
  • [00:42] Super Nintendo World Shows How to Make Technology Invisible
  • [00:44] The Future of Identity: Digital Product Passports and NFC Activation
  • [00:47] Music Recommendation: SAULT, Neo-Soul, and the Mystery of AI
  • [00:49] Key Takeaways: Where Tech Magic Actually Happens



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1 month ago
49 minutes 45 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
AI Does its Own Reputation Spin, Google’s AI Data Edge, The AI Slop Crisis, Self-Coding Malware, TED Next, Cathy Headlines Female Quotient’s AI Summit and interview on Cuffing Season 2.0 & Dating Tech with Myles Slayton of Cerca

As AI systems start rewriting their own code and sanitising negative news about themselves, the line between control and autonomy is blurring. In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the unsettling rise of AI self-management, Google’s growing edge over OpenAI through real-world data, and the “AI slop spiral” threatening to degrade the entire internet. They also examine malware that now uses AI to rewrite its own code, an alarming glimpse into adversarial AI. 

The episode also includes Cathy’s exciting interview with Myles Slayton, CEO of Cerca Dating, to explore how mutual-based dating is redefining online connections through trust and community. From Gen Z’s new dating habits to the irreplaceable value of human imperfection, this episode dives deep into what’s next for both AI and authenticity.


Come for the tech, and stay for the magic!



Myles Slayton Bio

Myles Slayton is the 23-year-old Co-founder and CEO of Cerca Dating, a mutuals-based dating app revolutionizing how Gen Z approaches online dating. A Georgetown University graduate, Miles founded Circa to address the fatigue and safety concerns plaguing traditional dating applications. With a mission to connect users through trusted friend networks rather than algorithms, Cerca has rapidly scaled to approximately 100,000 users while maintaining a healthy 60%+ female user base.

Myles Slayton on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics: 


  • 00:00:00 Intro
  • 00:06:09 ChatGPT's Automatic Headline Sanitization Exposed
  • 00:14:32 The "Dog Eating Its Own Barf" Problem in AI Training
  • 00:18:02 Google Wins the AI War with Real-World Data Access
  • 00:24:23 OnlyFans Monetization Model & Vylit App Launch
  • 00:26:19 The Death of Traditional Dating Apps
  • 00:32:02 Circa: The Mutuals-Based Dating App Revolution
  • 00:33:21 Cuffing Season 2.0 and Gen Z Dating Trends
  • 00:39:15 Trust, Safety & Reputation-Based Dating
  • 00:43:50 Why AI Cannot Replicate Human Chemistry
  • 00:49:06 Roblox Abuse Lawsuit and Platform Safety Issues
  • 00:53:33 AI-Powered Malware Rewriting Its Own Code
  • 00:55:03 TEDx Atlanta and the Future of Creativity
  • 00:57:50 "Humanity is the Moat Around the Machines"
  • 00:58:50 Cathy's Gulf States Roadshow & CES 2025 Plans
  • 01:01:4 What We're Watching: Pluribus & The Spatial Race
  • 01:02:16 Key Takeaways & Final Thoughts



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1 month ago
1 hour 2 minutes 41 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
OpenAI’s $38B Deal, Hinton’s AI Shift, GTC & FiI in Riyadh, Data Wars, Meta’s Hardware, Gaming in KSA with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, Melissa Tony Stires, and Janna Salokangas.of Mia AI, Cathy Heads to TED Next and the Female Quotient’s AI Summit

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore OpenAI’s Sora and how AI-driven video generation reshapes creativity, privacy, and consent. From OpenAI’s massive $38B AWS deal to the ethical storm over data scraping and copyright, they unpack the week’s biggest tech power plays. The duo explores Geoffrey Hinton’s surprising optimism on AI’s future, Meta’s data mishap, and how companies are redefining roles through spatial computing. Plus, Lee shares insights from NVIDIA’s GTC conference and what it reveals about the true cost and promise of AI. 


The episode also features Cathy’s exciting interview with Melissa Tony Stires, Chief Global Officer at Mia AI, and Janna Salokangas, Co-Founder and CEO of Mia AI. Together, they discuss strategy-first adoption of AI, the importance of AI literacy, and the mindset shifts leaders need to drive human-centred transformation in the era of intelligent tools.


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Melissa Tony Stires Bio

Melissa Tony Stires is an international protocol expert and leadership innovator specializing in cross-cultural communications and women’s empowerment in AI. As a Chief Global Officer at Mia AI, she bridges tradition and technology through global collaborations and billion-dollar initiatives. A certified Advanced International Protocol Officer, best-selling author, and sought-after speaker, Melissa’s work has shaped dialogues from Davos to Cannes Lions, advancing inclusivity, innovation, and global understanding in the tech landscape.


Melissa Tony Stires LinkedIn


Janna Salokangas Bio

Janna Salokangas is the Co-founder and CEO of Mia AI, where she’s redefining how people and organisations unlock their full potential through AI-driven learning and innovation. Under her leadership, Mia has trained over 7,000 professionals across 65+ countries, partnering with leading institutions to deliver transformative AI education and solutions. A co-founder of Finnish Flow, Janna also champions Finland’s business community at Davos, advocating for human-centric AI and the future of equitable, empowered innovation.


Janna Salokangas LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic
  • 00:28 NVIDIA GTC & Nokia's $1B AI Investment
  • 00:54 Geoffrey Hinton Shifts AI Stance on Job Displacement
  • 08:17 Sharp HealthCare's First Chief Spatial Computing Officer
  • 09:05 OpenAI's $38 Billion Amazon AWS Deal Explained
  • 15:17 Perplexity vs Reddit: Data Scraping Lawsuit Breakdown
  • 21:28 AI Augmentation Over Replacement: Secret Cinema's Approach
  • 26:19 Magic Leap's Google Partnership & New AI Glasses
  • 32:17 TEDx Atlanta: Alvin Wang Graylin & Industry Leaders
  • 35:45 AI Education Interview with Janna & Melissa from Mia AI
  • 37:18 Mia AI: Human-Centered AI Education Going Global
  • 42:35 Strategy-First AI Adoption: Define Problems Before Tools
  • 42:46 Real-World Success Stories: From Universities to Single Mothers
  • 47:28 What Differentiates Mia AI in a Crowded Market

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1 month ago
1 hour 2 minutes 54 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
Cathy at Nvidia’s GTC, Advances in Robotics, Cathy Goes Shopping with a Humanoid Robot, Samsung XR’s Future, Bored Apes Are Back and r what happened at Vogue Singapore's Next in Vogue and Singularity U South Africa Summit

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the fascinating, funny, and sometimes unsettling intersection between humans and machines. From Cathy’s “shopping date” with humanoid robot Maximus to Amazon’s ambitious plans to automate its warehouses, the hosts unpack how AI and robotics are reshaping work and daily life. They also discuss Samsung’s entry into the XR race with the Galaxy headset, the return of Bored Ape Yacht Club’s metaverse project, and innovations like direct-to-vinyl recording. With equal parts humour and insight, Cathy and Lee decode how today’s emerging technologies are redefining what’s possible, and what’s still human.


Come for the tech and stay for the magic!



Cathy Hackl Bio


Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 


Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn



Lee Kebler Bio


Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 01:30 Shopping with Maximus: A Human-Robot Retail Adventure
  • 10:35 Amazon's Automation Revolution: 600,000 Jobs Going Robotic
  • 18:30 The AI Bubble: Debating the Reality of AGI and Market Hype
  • 28:40 Understanding ChatGPT's Limitations and Technical Challenges
  • 37:00 Samsung Galaxy XR: A New Player in the XR Hardware Space
  • 43:50 Amazon's HUD Glasses and the Future of Spatial Computing
  • 50:25 Bored Ape Yacht Club Returns with "Otherside" Metaverse Project
  • 54:58 Upcoming Events and a Deep Dive into Vintage Audio Technology

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1 month ago
54 minutes 9 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
The AWS Outage Chaos, Fashion's AI Revolution, Sora 2.0's Dark Side & OpenAI's Controversial Pivot with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl (yep, she’s back) and Lee Kebler open Pandora’s box - the tech edition. This episode’s all about navigating tech disruptions and learning to roll with the punches. From the AWS outage and OpenAI's controversial content policies, to Sora's impact on content creation, Pinterest's AI content controls, and Apple's quiet Vision Pro updates, they deep dive into it all! The AI landscape is evolving faster than you can say the word and so are its implications on content, creativity and commerce. 


Just like Cathy’s travels from Singapore to South Africa, your favourite Tech Magic pair are jetsetting into the world of technology, offering a global perspective on where we’re heading and the ethical questions we need to address.


Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more.


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • [00:00] Intro to TechMagic 
  • [01:15] What the Hell AWS? How a Global Outage Caused Chaos
  • [04:30] Going Global: Tech Perspectives from Singapore to South Africa
  • [08:00] OpenAI's Sora 2: Questions of Purpose and Ethics
  • [14:30] Pinterest Takes a Stand Against AI-Generated Content
  • [17:00] OpenAI's Controversial Move into Adult Content
  • [25:30] Apple's Quiet Hardware Updates and Vision Pro Changes
  • [31:00] Gaming Evolution: From Atari to Interactive Documentaries
  • [35:00] Final Thoughts and Future Conference Plans



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2 months ago
38 minutes 5 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
Sora 2, AI Ethics, Nintendo Research, Apple Vision Pro, Support Ends for Windows 10 with Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee explore the evolving intersection of AI, creativity, and ethics. Cathy is away this week and will rejoin the show next week. Meanwhile, Lee and Adam delve into OpenAI’s Sora 2 and its implications for digital rights, content authenticity, and ethical innovation. The hosts examine Nintendo’s research on gaming’s cognitive benefits, Apple Vision Pro’s NBA partnership, and the Windows 10 end-of-support scenario. They also discuss AI’s energy consumption and emerging global regulations on intellectual property. Perfect for tech enthusiasts, creators, and industry professionals, this episode provides balanced insights into the opportunities and responsibilities that accompany today’s rapidly evolving digital landscape.


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Adam Davis-McGee Bio

Adam Davis-McGee is a dynamic Creative Director and Producer specializing in immersive storytelling across XR and traditional media. As Senior Producer at Journey, he led the virtual studio, pioneering cutting-edge virtual experiences. He developed a Web3 playbook for Yum! Brands, integrating blockchain and NFT strategies. At Condé Nast, Adam produced engaging video content for Wired and Ars Technica, amplifying digital storytelling. His groundbreaking XR journalism project, In Protest: Grassroots Stories from the Frontlines (Oculus/Meta), captured historic moments in VR. Passionate about pushing creative boundaries, Adam thrives on crafting innovative narratives that captivate audiences worldwide.


Adam Davis-McGee on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Lee Kebler and ADM
  • 04:07 Exploring Artist Reactions to AI: Surprising Enthusiasm in LA
  • 08:03 Sora 2: Ethical Concerns and Digital Rights
  • 23:55 AI Content Bias: OpenAI's Power Consumption Story
  • 33:20 Roblox's New Parent Council: Better Late Than Never
  • 38:35 Nintendo Debunks Gaming Myths: Benefits for Attention Span
  • 42:47 Apple Vision Pro: NBA License and VR History
  • 46:41 Windows 10 Support Ending: What Users Need to Know
  • 50:30 Recommendations and Closing Thoughts



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2 months ago
47 minutes 36 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
OpenAI’s Sora, Deepfakes, Meta Ray-Bans, AI Startup Boom, and the End of AOL with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the week’s biggest tech stories, from OpenAI’s latest announcements and Sora’s deepfake potential to Meta’s sold-out Ray-Ban smart glasses. They explore how AI integrations with platforms like Coursera, Canva, and Zillow could reshape how we access and trust information. The hosts also dive into the implications of skyrocketing AI startup valuations and reflect on the end of AOL dial-up, closing a chapter in internet history. Balancing enthusiasm with caution, they challenge listeners to consider the ethical, social, and creative consequences of an increasingly AI-driven world.


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Episode Highlights:


  • The Privacy Implications of AI Video Generation – Cathy Hackl’s hands-on test of OpenAI’s Sora exposes major privacy challenges around biometric data and deepfake creation. By simply reading numbers and moving one’s head, users can generate hyper-realistic videos of themselves or others, without consent. While visuals are striking, voice replication remains flawed. Cathy and Lee caution that such tools blur ethical lines, raising urgent questions about consent, authenticity, and data ownership in creative AI adoption.


  • OpenAI’s Vision for Information Control – Lee Kebler dissects OpenAI’s ambition to centralise online experiences through deep integrations with Coursera, Canva, and Zillow. By keeping users inside ChatGPT’s ecosystem, OpenAI could redefine how information flows, but at a cost. Cathy and Lee warn that algorithmic filtering may restrict perspective diversity, amplify bias, and erode the open web’s foundational freedom. Their advice: diversify digital sources to maintain balanced, transparent information access.


  • The Rise of Consumer AR Hardware – Meta’s Ray-Ban smart glasses sell-out reveals the next leap in wearable adoption. Cathy and Lee analyse how fashion-forward design, practical utility, and accessible pricing have made AR more approachable. Positioned between novelty and necessity, these wearables hint at future accessibility, productivity, and communication uses. They stress that long-term success will depend on ergonomic design, battery life, and balancing innovation with real-world wearability.


  • The AI Investment Bubble Warning Signs – Cathy and Lee discuss mounting worries from industry giants like Sam Altman and Jeff Bezos about inflated AI valuations. Unlike past bubbles driven by retail hype, today’s surge stems from institutional overconfidence and misunderstanding of AI fundamentals. Many investors conflate general AI with LLMs, fuelling unrealistic expectations.


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 01:44 Testing OpenAI's Sora: Deep Fake Capabilities and Privacy Concerns
  • 15:02 OpenAI's Dev Day: Impressive Tools and Integration Announcements
  • 18:09 The Dark Side of AI Integration: Information Control and Filter Bubbles
  • 25:23 Apple's Vision Pro Updates and Meta's Ray-Ban Success
  • 32:41 Farewell to AOL: The End of Dial-Up Internet Era
  • 34:17 AI Startup Valuations: Warning Signs of a Tech Bubble
  • 38:05 Final Thoughts: Music Recommendations and Show Wrap-Up

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2 months ago
36 minutes 47 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
Spatial Computing, Apple Vision Pro, Enterprise Collaboration, AI Safety, and LLM Limits with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Tom Acland

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler delve into the latest developments in tech, from Meta’s hardware updates to AI advancements and parental controls. Cathy interviews Tom Acland, CEO at Dassault Systèmes 3DEXCITE. Learn how the Apple Vision Pro is transforming enterprise collaboration and why we're finally reaching the tipping point for widespread adoption of spatial computing technology. Whether you're a tech enthusiast or industry professional, this episode delivers sharp insights into the intersection of AI, spatial computing, and enterprise innovation. Cathy and Lee also discuss why current LLMs won’t lead to superintelligence and they debate the impact of AI on sports.


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Tom Acland Bio


Tom Acland is the CEO at Dassault Systèmes’ 3DEXPERIENCE division, where he drives innovation in enterprise spatial computing and manufacturing. He specialises in bridging engineering and media technology, helping clients like Hyundai, Virgin Galactic, and Deutsche Aircraft bring products to market through advanced visualization and collaboration tools. In this episode, Tom discusses Dassault Systèmes’ work with Apple Vision Pro and their 3D Live app, sharing insights on the future of spatial computing, mixed reality, and transforming enterprise collaboration.


Tom Acland on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cath Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 01:40 Meta Connect Reflections and Failed Demos
  • 06:19 OpenAI's Hallucinations: Mathematical Inevitability
  • 08:50 ChatGPT's Parental Controls and Real-World Applications
  • 13:11 The Evolution of AI Music and Creative Tools
  • 16:39 Friend.com: Marketing AI Hardware Without Mentioning AI
  • 19:13 AI Boyfriends and Celebrity Voice Clones
  • 31:37 Baseball's Robot Umpires: Technology vs Tradition
  • 34:22 Interview: Tom Acland on Enterprise Spatial Computing
  • 39:08 Dassault Systèmes' 3D Live App for Apple Vision Pro
  • 42:52 Industries Embracing Spatial Computing Technology
  • 46:28 The Future of Spatial Computing: Next 5-10 Years
  • 50:55 Balancing Innovation with User Trust and Safety
  • 54:10 Final Thoughts and Media Recommendations



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2 months ago
49 minutes 43 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
Meta Connect, Intel-NVIDIA Deal, Waymo Autonomous Ride, TikTok Oracle Talks, and AR Glasses with Lee Kebler and Nic Hill

In this episode of TechMagic, host Lee Kebler is joined by Nic Hill, co-founder and Chief Innovation Officer of Sawhorse Productions, to explore the latest tech developments shaping our digital world. Together, they break down Meta Connect’s memorable moments and mobile-first pivot with Horizon Worlds, Intel’s surprising $5B partnership with NVIDIA, and Lee’s first-hand experience with Waymo’s autonomous vehicles. The discussion also covers TikTok’s potential acquisition by Oracle and the future of AR glasses and spatial computing. With insider insights and thoughtful analysis, Lee and Nic unpack how legacy tech companies are navigating rapid innovation, offering a must-listen guide for tech enthusiasts and professionals alike. Cathy is away this week and will rejoin the show next week.


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Lee Kebler Bio:

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.

Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Nic Hill Bio:

Nic Hill is the Co-Founder and Chief Innovation Officer at Sawhorse Productions, a full-service production and post house specialising in branded content, commercials, and scripted and non-scripted shows. With over 12 years of experience, Nic has assembled a talented team of experts in video production, editing, and comedy. Passionate about immersive metaverse experiences that blur the line between film and gaming, he delivers innovative content for leading brands, studios, and agencies worldwide. Previously, Nic worked as an independent film director and editor, creating internationally acclaimed documentaries. Based in Los Angeles, he enjoys DJing, biking, and family time.


Nic Hill on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro & Welcome from LA
  • 05:31 Inside MetaConnect: A Front Row Perspective
  • 08:15 Meta's Smart Glasses Evolution & Design Strategy
  • 21:27 Horizon Worlds' Mobile-First Transformation
  • 33:35 First-Hand Experience with Waymo's Self-Driving Cars
  • 40:45 NVIDIA's $5B Investment in Intel: Gaming's Future
  • 44:30 Oracle's TikTok Acquisition & Social Media Shifts
  • 51:25 The Smart Glasses Arms Race: Amazon & OpenAI Enter
  • 55:31 Final Thoughts: Alien Earth & AI Evolution



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3 months ago
53 minutes 54 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
Meta Connect, Ray-Ban AI Glasses, Amazon’s Smart Eyewear, Nintendo’s Virtual Boy Revival, and AI Superintelligence with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the future of hardware innovation, from Meta’s anticipated Connect event to Nintendo’s bold gaming moves. They unpack Meta’s AI-powered smart glasses collaborations, Amazon’s push into wearable tech, and Nintendo’s surprising Virtual Boy revival. Alongside hardware news, Cathy and Lee examine the deeper cultural and societal shifts at play, and how AI-driven personal superintelligence could reshape user experience, privacy, and even fashion. Packed with insider insights, this episode highlights why hardware is no longer just functional but increasingly a cultural statement at the intersection of technology and humanity.


  • Next in Vogue Singapore: https://vogue.sg/nextinvogue/
  • Singularity Summit South Africa: https://singularitysouthafricasummit.org/


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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 02:03 Apple's Disappointing Hardware Event: A Missed Opportunity
  • 06:28 Meta Connect Preview: The Hypernova Moment for AI and XR
  • 11:15 Meta's Smart Glasses Strategy: From Ray-Ban to Luxury Brands
  • 17:30 The Vision for Personal Superintelligence and AI Evolution
  • 28:00 Social Media's Algorithm Problem: A Facebook Case Study
  • 36:50 The Hardware Race Heats Up: Amazon, HTC, and Samsung Join In
  • 37:15 Nintendo's Virtual Boy Revival: A Controversial Return
  • 44:10 Smart Game Pricing: Hollow Knight's Market Strategy Success
  • 53:15 Final Thoughts: The Future of Tech, Media Recommendations, and Closing

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3 months ago
46 minutes 52 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
Moon Communications, Space Commerce, AI Wearables, Gaming Safety, and Global Esports with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Thierry Klein

In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the future of space and digital entertainment, and discuss AI-driven space operations, Roblox’s expansion with 100,000-player servers, and Paramount’s Call of Duty film adaptation. From esports acquisitions shaping global markets to safety and privacy in AI wearables, the conversation touches on several key tech trends that are influencing our world. Cathy interviews Thierry Klein, President of Bell Labs Solutions Research at Nokia. They uncover how Nokia built the first cellular network on the moon, laying the foundation for a sustainable lunar economy and future Mars missions.


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Thierry Klein Bio


Thierry Klein is the President of Bell Labs Solutions Research at Nokia, a pioneering figure in space communications and network infrastructure. With extensive experience in telecommunications and space technology, Klein leads research initiatives focused on AI, Web3, and new device technologies at the historic Bell Labs, which is celebrating its centennial year. He has played a pivotal role in delivering the first cellular network on the moon during the Intuitive Machines' IM2 mission, marking a historic milestone in space communications.


Thierry Klein on LinkedIn



Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro and Show Updates
  • 02:20 Nokia's Innovation Campus in Finland - A Hub for Future Tech
  • 04:44 Space Technology and Lunar Networks - Nokia's Groundbreaking Mission
  • 27:36 Building the First Cellular Network on the Moon 
  • 35:36 Transforming Astronaut Operations with Advanced Communications
  • 40:41 The Future of Lunar Economy and Infrastructure
  • 48:46 Interplanetary Communications and the Space Internet
  • 55:13 AI's Role in Space Operations and Networks
  • 01:10 Roblox Developer Conference Updates and Safety Features
  • 01:19 Gaming Industry Updates: Call of Duty Movie and EVO Tournament News
  • 01:27 Wearable AI Technology Review and Future Outlook
  • 01:30 Closing Thoughts and Show Wrap-up



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3 months ago
1 hour 24 minutes 18 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
Digg Relaunch, AI Ethics, Online Trust, Platform Safety, and Human Connection with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Kevin Rose

In this exciting return of TechMagic in season 3, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler sit down with Kevin Rose, founder of Digg and partner at True Ventures, to explore the future of digital communities and human-first technology. Together, they discuss the ambitious Digg relaunch in partnership with Reddit’s co-founder, Alexis Ohanian, the challenges of building trust and safety on online platforms, and the disruptive role of AI in shaping content and jobs. 


From redefining how we talk about AI “hallucinations” to highlighting the rising importance of authentic human connection, this episode provides fresh insights into the evolving relationship between technology, community, and our shared digital future.


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What you will learn:

  • Building Trust in Digital Communities
  • The Power of Niche Communities
  • Strategic AI Integration
  • The Return to Real-World Connection


Kevin Rose Bio

Kevin Rose is a pioneering tech entrepreneur, investor, and partner at True Ventures. He is best known as the founder of Digg, the first major social news platform. Over his 25+ year career, he has launched and led multiple ventures, including Revision3 (acquired by Discovery), Zero (the leading intermittent fasting app), and served as CEO of Hodinkee. Rose has been an early angel investor in Twitter, Square, Facebook, and more, earning recognition from Bloomberg, Forbes, MIT, and Time as one of the most influential figures in tech. His focus today is building trustworthy, human-first digital communities and advancing the future of online platforms.

Kevin Rose on LinkedIn 1

Kevin Rose on LinkedIn 2


Key Discussion Topics:

  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic Season 3
  • 03:19 Adventures in Finland & India: Cathy's Global Tech Journey
  • 07:05 ChatGPT Drama: Checking on AI Boyfriends
  • 12:12 Kevin Rose Interview: The Return of Digg
  • 18:22 Building Trust in Digital Communities
  • 28:30 The Future of In-Person Meetups
  • 32:19 AI Integration & Human Connection
  • 39:16 Meta Connect & Smart Glasses Privacy Concerns
  • 42:17 The Roblox Safety Debate
  • 51:32 AWS vs. Salesforce: The Entry-Level Jobs Controversy
  • 59:26 Finding Balance in a Tech-Saturated World
  • 01:13:14 Final Thoughts: Gratitude & Music Recommendations

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3 months ago
1 hour 14 minutes 15 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
Embedded Finance, Digital Wallets, AI Agents, and Payment Innovation in 2025 with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Nabil Manji

Cathy and Lee are taking a break this month, and August is Greatest Hits time on TechMagic as we pull out some special episodes from our vault. In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the cutting-edge innovations transforming finance and commerce in 2025. Along with special guest Nabil Manji, SVP of Fintech Growth at Worldpay, the trio discusses the rise of digital wallets and embedded finance, as well as the power of AI agents and real-time payments. They explore how technology is redefining money movement on a global scale and tackle the impact of quantum computing on payment security. They look at the challenges of AI safety and what companies like Shopify are doing to lead the charge. A must-listen for anyone curious about the future of fintech.


What you will learn:

  • How digital wallets are transforming global commerce
  • Why embedded finance is revolutionizing delivery of financial services to customers
  • The evolution of real-time payments across different global markets 
  • How AI agents are reshaping commerce through automated purchasing 
  • Why stablecoins are emerging as a crucial tool for cross-border payments 
  • The impact of quantum computing on payment security 
  • The challenges facing traditional retail experiences 
  • Current concerns around AI chatbots and the need for stronger safety measures
  • The growing pains of emerging tech trends, from Nintendo's preorder challenges to Meta's AI controversies


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Nabil Manji Bio

Nabil Manji is the Senior Vice President and Head of Fintech Growth and Financial Partnerships at Worldpay, where he leads strategic initiatives in emerging payment technologies and financial partnerships. With extensive experience in the payments industry, he oversees how Worldpay collaborates with banks, fintech companies, and card networks to shape the future of money movement. His expertise in payment infrastructure and involvement in Worldpay's Global Payments Report make him uniquely qualified to discuss how technological innovations are transforming the way we think about and handle transactions in an increasingly digital world. His strategic vision for the intersection of technology and finance provides valuable 


insights for businesses and professionals interested in the future of payments and financial technology.

Nabil Manji on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
  • 02:44 AI & Mental Health: The Rise of Digital Therapy Solutions
  • 09:51 Nintendo Switch 2: When Preorders Go Wrong
  • 18:06 Slate Auto: Reimagining the Electric Truck
  • 25:44 The Three Pillars of AI in Payments with Nabil Manji
  • 39:37 Digital Wallets: The Evolution of Modern Payment Methods
  • 46:20 Cryptocurrency as Payment Infrastructure
  • 49:20 Understanding Embedded Commerce & Finance
  • 53:57 Quantum Computing's Impact on Payment Security
  • 01:03:47 Meta AI Controversy: Safety Concerns & Celebrity Voices

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4 months ago
1 hour 9 minutes 6 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
AI Photo Tracking, AR Marketing, Spatial Computing, and Humanoid Robots with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Tom Emrich

Cathy and Lee are taking a break this month, and August is Greatest Hits time on TechMagic as we pull out some special episodes from our vault. In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack viral AI trends, privacy concerns surrounding ChatGPT's photo location capabilities, and the future of spatial computing with special guest Tom Emrich, author of "The Next Dimension." They discuss the marketing power of augmented reality, including Avon’s 320% sales boost, and examine the evolution from smartphone-based AR to smart glasses and mixed reality. Tom introduces the “Play, Pilot, Proof” framework and explains why “presence” is the new P in marketing. It’s a compelling look at how digital and physical worlds are fast converging.


What you will learn:

  • How AI tools like ChatGPT can identify photo locations with striking accuracy
  • Why the "em dash" has become a telltale sign of AI-generated content
  • The significance of "presence" as the new P in marketing 
  • How dark factories are revolutionizing manufacturing with robot-only operations
  • Why brands need to follow the "Play, Pilot, Proof" framework 
  • How spatial computing is transforming from smartphone-based AR to wearable devices 
  • The implications of viral AI trends for privacy and data collection
  • The potential impact of AI replacing white-collar workers and C-suite executives
  • How brands can leverage AR for marketing with conversion rate increases of up to 320%


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Tom Emrich Bio

Tom Emrich is a pioneering product leader in spatial computing with over 15 years of experience in AR, VR, and wearables. He’s helped shape the future of human-technology interaction through roles at Meta and Niantic, where he led AR platform strategy, launched industry-first AR Ads, and introduced mixed reality experiences. As the author of The Next Dimension, Tom offers a definitive guide to using AR for business growth. He’s also an investor, startup advisor, and ecosystem builder, known for founding We Are Wearables and co-producing AWE. A recognized thought leader, Tom’s insights have been featured in Forbes, CNN, and The New York Times.


Tom Emrich on LinkedIn

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Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 04:45 AI Trends: From Studio Ghibli to Dogs as Humans
  • 08:25 ChatGPT's Photo Location Detection: Privacy Concerns Revealed
  • 17:35 The Em Dash: How to Spot AI-Generated Content
  • 25:30 Should You Say "Please" and "Thank You" to AI?
  • 35:38 Interview: Tom Emrich on The Next Dimension of AR Marketing
  • 40:51 How AR is Transforming the Marketing Funnel
  • 44:29 The Evolution of Spatial Computing Hardware
  • 50:13 "Presence" - The New P in Marketing
  • 56:10 Humanoid Robots and Dark Factories: The Future of Manufacturing



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4 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 21 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
Trending in Tech: AI, Gaming, Fashion’s High-Tech Future, Vibe Coding, and More with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Melissa Medina

Cathy and Lee are on leave this month, and August is Greatest Hits time on TechMagic as we pull out some special episodes from our vault. In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore cutting-edge innovations, from AI agents to Meta’s fashion-forward Ray-Ban smart glasses. Special guest Melissa Medina, CEO of eMerge Americas, discusses South Florida’s rise as a global tech hub and previews their upcoming conference featuring industry leaders like Palmer Luckey and Daymond John. The hosts also dive into gaming news from GDC, NVIDIA’s latest advancements, and the evolution of "vibe coding" in software development. Packed with industry insights and engaging discussions, this episode is a must-listen for tech enthusiasts, developers, and innovation leaders alike.


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Melissa Medina Bio


Melissa Medina Jiménez is the co-founder, CEO, and President of eMerge Americas, a venture-backed platform transforming Miami into a global tech hub. Under her leadership, the annual eMerge Americas conference has grown to attract 20,000+ attendees from over 50 countries. A University of Florida graduate, Melissa also studied at ESADE in Barcelona. She is a partner at Medina Ventures and leads the Medina Family Foundation. Passionate about innovation and community impact, she champions Miami’s tech growth while raising her five children.


Melissa Medina on LinkedIn

eMerge Americas Website


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler
  • 02:09 The Hidden Musical Talents of Tech Leaders - Lee's Harmonica Journey
  • 06:55 Inside DC's Tech Scene: AI Summit & Chip Diplomacy Discussions 
  • 13:14 The Global AI Race: Who Will Be #3 After US and China?
  • 19:35 South by Southwest 2024: Music Takes Center Stage
  • 31:02 Gaming Industry Updates: GDC Preview & Nintendo Switch News
  • 38:37 Meta's Fashion Future: Partnership with Coperni for Smart Glasses
  • 43:25 The Rise of AI Agents: From Simple Tasks to Complex Automation
  • 53:54 The Evolution of Coding: From Machine Language to AI-Assisted Development
  • 1:00:19 Special Interview: Melissa Medina on Miami's Tech Transformation
  • 1:11:53 Key Takeaways & Looking Ahead to Future Tech Developments



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4 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes 51 seconds

TechMagic with Cathy Hackl
TechMagic with Cathy Hackl helps you navigate the future and make sense of today’s rapid technological change. Hear unique perspectives, explore new trends, and journey into the heart of technology. TechMagic is a must-listen for anyone passionate about the future of tech because Arthur C. Clarke said it best: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

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