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That's What I Call Marketing
Conor Byrne
175 episodes
2 weeks ago
Conor Byrne hosts That's What I Call Marketing meeting some of the most incredible marketing minds in our industry, CMO's, founders and marketing leaders from across the globe, this podcast tackles the big issues facing marketers today, as well as providing inspiration by hearing the incredible stories marketing leaders share of their journey to the top.

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Conor Byrne hosts That's What I Call Marketing meeting some of the most incredible marketing minds in our industry, CMO's, founders and marketing leaders from across the globe, this podcast tackles the big issues facing marketers today, as well as providing inspiration by hearing the incredible stories marketing leaders share of their journey to the top.

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That's What I Call Marketing
The Singles: Don't Look Back In Anger 2025

Don't Look Back In Anger - the episode where we look back at the biggest stories we covered on The Singles and see how those brands have gotten on this year. So What happens after the marketing headlines fade? Let's we revisit some of the biggest brand stories of 2025 — and test them against what actually changed over time. Using always-on brand health data from Tracksuit, Conor Byrne is joined by Dan and Jasper to look back at Tesla, American Eagle, Rhode, and Deliveroo, six to nine months after the noise. Not opinions. Not predictions. Just evidence of where attention turned into demand — and where it didn’t.

Across very different categories, a consistent pattern emerges: “The campaign didn’t hurt sales — but the brand is weaker than it was.”

In this episode, we explore:

  • Why Tesla still dominates innovation perception but is leaking trust and preference in both the US and UK
  • How American Eagle’s controversial campaign held short-term revenue while brand fundamentals quietly eroded
  • What Rhode’s acquisition by e.l.f. gets right — and the brand risks that come with scaling distribution
  • Why Deliveroo, post-DoorDash acquisition, faces a preference problem in a category defined by low loyalty and easy switching

This is a conversation is about thinking about long-term demand, pricing power, and resilience not just quarterly performance. If you care about the gap between being noticed and being chosen, this episode is for you.


02:40 – Tesla: innovation without reassurance

11:40 – American Eagle: sales hold, brand weakens

17:45 – Rhode: scaling without dilution

23:05 – Deliveroo: preference in a default-driven category


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2 weeks ago
34 minutes 11 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep29: A Red Star Christmas 2025 - The Best Christmas Ads of 2025

Which Christmas ads did Irish viewers love in 2025?

In this special Christmas edition of That’s What I Call Marketing, Conor Byrne is joined by Ciara Reilly from Red C Research, Linda Bradley (Head of Planning, Diageo Ireland), and Marc Smith (Global Director of Insights & Analytics, Mark Anthony Brands) to reveal the Top 20 Christmas Ads in Ireland, as ranked by real consumers on the Red Star testing platform.


We analyse the biggest festive campaigns of the season, including:

Tesco, SuperValu, Lidl, Spar, Sky Mobile, An Post, Vodafone, Boots, Dunnes Stores, Home Store + More, M&S, Woodie’s, Eason, Aldi, Amazon, and Coca-Cola.


Across the episode we explore:

• Why some Irish Christmas ads performed far better than expected

• The surprising gap between marketer opinion vs consumer reaction

• What emotional storytelling gets right and wrong at Christmas

• How branding, memory structures and fluent devices shaped the rankings

• Why consistency helped brands stand out

• The role of humour, reality, nostalgia and AI in this year’s festive campaigns


Whether you work in marketing, advertising, strategy, media, or creative, this deep dive into the best Christmas ads of the year reveals what truly resonates with audiences and what doesn’t.


🎄 Brands discussed: Tesco, SuperValu, Lidl, Spar, Sky Mobile, An Post, Vodafone, Boots, Dunnes Stores, Woodie’s, Home Store + More, M&S, Eason, Aldi, Amazon, Coca-Cola.


📍 CHAPTERS


03:03 The lowest ranked ads

05:18 John Lewis debate emotional truth vs emotional fit

07:41 Functional ads & the problem of “sameness”

13:28 Sea Swim: why it keeps winning hearts

15:27 Sky Mobile & the Roy Keane effect

17:23 National Lottery: a new less fun direction

21:25 An Post Tin: Man does the story need a new chapter?

23:33 M&S Food: when style overtakes substance

26:20 Home Store + More the surprise hit

27:56 Coca-Cola Holidays Are Coming (AI version)

30:56 Dunnes Stores Shine Bright: the craft that endures

32:50 Aldi & Kevin the Carrot: did they need a 3 parter?

36:00 Eason: an emotional standout

38:56 Amazon: a global festive story returns

41:54 Woodie’s crowned #1 in Ireland https://www.youtube.com/shorts/22prv5XcpSM

44:50 The panel’s all-time favourite Christmas ads


Check out the Red Star Testing Platform https://redcresearch.com/product/red-star/


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4 weeks ago
50 minutes 54 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
The Singles Ep12: Netflix X Spotify, Monzo taking on Barclays, Rebel X Movember

The episode begins with the new Netflix × Spotify partnership, where Spotify's video podcasts will sit on Netflix from 2026. Conor, Dan and Jasper discuss what this means for streaming, how it challenges YouTube’s dominance in video podcasts, and why Netflix’s broad familiarity.


Next, the conversation moves to banking in the UK, where legacy brands like Barclays face pressure from digital challengers including Monzo, Revolut and Wise. Tracksuit data shows Barclays’ awareness remains high at 89%, but consideration and investigation are slipping — especially among 18–34s — as Monzo builds strength through simplicity, transparency and real-time product features. The team unpack why refer-a-friend programmes, user experience, and “is for people like me” perceptions are shifting the category.


The third story looks at Movember and Rebel Sport in Australia, exploring how both brands use emotional connection, identity and community to drive engagement. With Rebel’s awareness falling from 79% to 75% and usage also declining, the team discusses why emotional relevance matters, how Rebel’s “Town Without Sport” campaign reframes sport as cultural belonging, and how Movember has evolved into a global identity brand around men’s wellbeing and shared participation through the iconic moustache.


The episode closes with a debate about Coca-Cola’s AI-generated Christmas ad, the role of distinctive brand assets, and whether AI is truly “pushing the boundaries of creativity” or simply versioning existing ideas. Conor challenges Coke’s framing, while Dan and Jasper discuss industry reactions, production choices and early System1 results from this year’s work.


Whether you're a brand leader, strategist, or marketer working across multiple markets, this month’s Singles offers grounded data, clear examples, and practical discussions shaped by Tracksuit’s real-time brand metrics.


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1 month ago
33 minutes 23 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
Re-Release - Making the Guinness Christmas Ad

First Aired 23rd Dec 2023, this is the never before told story behind the making of the iconic Guinness Christmas Ad. Tom Kinsella, Damian Devaney, Mark Nutley and Pat Hamill who were part of the team client and agency side that made this ad join That's What I Call Marketing to talk about creating what has become one of the greatest Christmas Ads of all time. We discuss the development process, challenges encountered, and the enduring success of the ad after its release. The conversation highlights the power of creativity, the critical role of collaboration between agencies and clients, and the essential element of investing time and effort into crafting an impactful advertisement. Some key moments include

  • 04:21 The Creative Process and Challenges
  • 25:57 The Role of Music in the Ad
  • 32:22 The Risk of Leaving Out the Pint
  • 39:26 The Importance of Distinctive Assets
  • 48:01 The Impact of the Ad Over Time
  • 56:22 The Power of Creativity and Investment

But there is a tonne more, the power of music, the emergence of the line at the home of the black stuff, sweating the small stuff, investing in brilliance. So enjoy this episode about a story that has never been told. Special mention to the many others involved in the project:

  • Mal Stevenson-Creative Director
  • John Kelly-Voiceover
  • Noel Byrne - Head of production
  • Margo Tracey- Producer
  • Mark Grehan/ Brendan Coyle – Account Director
  • Grainne O’Driscoll-Account Manager
  • Paddy Gibbons-Sound Mix
  • April Redmond - Diageo
  • Ronan Byrne - Diageo
  • Niamh Cribbin - Diageo
  • Paul Kelly - Diageo
  • Mark Ody - Diageo
  • Michael Ioakimides - Diageo
  • Charles Coase - Diageo

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1 month ago
59 minutes 47 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep28: Brand Global, Adapt Local with Katherine Melchior Ray & Nataly Kelly

CMO's Katherine Melchior Ray & Nataly Kelly dive deep into the nuances of global marketing . Both are experienced global CMOs and authors of the book 'Brand Global, Adapt Local.' They share their insights on the complexities and rewards of building a brand that balances global consistency with local relevance. From discussing their extensive backgrounds in various industries to examining successful case studies like Kit Kat and Kerry Gold, Katherine and Natalie offer valuable frameworks and strategies for marketers aiming to expand globally. This episode is brought to you by Tracksuit, the affordable brand tracking dashboard covering over 25 countries. Tune in to learn about the challenges and rewards of global marketing, the importance of cultural intelligence, and the role AI might play in the future of marketing. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your marketing community!


02:35 Katherine's Global Marketing Experience

04:32 Natalys Background and Contribution

05:18 The Power of Global Connections

08:31 Foundations of Marketing and Branding

09:40 Cultural Intelligence and AI Limitations

10:31 Localisation and Cultural Nuances

15:14 Organisational Attitude and Flexibility

16:35 Proximity Bias in Large Economies

17:49 Freedom Within a Frame Framework

19:04 Kit Kat's Global Strategy

20:46 Kerry Gold's Adaptation to US Market

22:05 Global Brand Consistency

26:33 The Impact of AI on Global Branding

28:23 Cultural Nuances in Marketing

29:36 Anecdotes and Lessons Learned


Buy the book https://www.amazon.ie/Brand-Global-Adapt-Local-Cultures/dp/1398619825


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1 month ago
35 minutes 17 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep27: Imen Zitouni, Intact's CMO on on Building a Brand That Travels

When Imen Zitouni started out, there was no Google. She literally taught Canadian businesses how to use a mouse. Fast forward twenty-five years, and she’s the Chief Marketing Officer at Intact Insurance, leading one of the most ambitious rebrands in the industry from RSA Insurance to Intact and shaping how marketing, data and innovation work together in a company of 30,000 people.


In this conversation, Imen joins Conor at Intact House in Dublin to talk about the twists and leaps that built her career. She tells the story of the seven PowerPoint slides that convinced CEO Charles Brindamour to start The Intact Lab, an experiment that began with seven people and now employs over a thousand specialists in data, AI and customer experience.

She explains what innovation really looks like inside a business built on managing risk. how you protect teams so they can experiment, why “failing fast” only works if you decide fast, and what it takes to turn ideas into impact.


You’ll also hear how she applies the same mindset to marketing and why “Technology gives you speed. Storytelling gives you meaning.” As well as how the global Intact rebrand was “not a marketing project, but a company-wide one.” and why she believes creativity in insurance starts with culture, not slogans.


It’s an honest, practical conversation about leadership, experimentation, and brand building from one of Canada’s most respected marketing executives recorded on the day the Intact name officially launched in Ireland, the UK and Europe



02:30 – Teaching people how to use a mouse (and falling in love with the internet)

04:50 – Lessons from agency life at Cassette

06:20 – The late-night call that brought her into insurance

08:00 – Finding purpose in a data-driven industry

09:45 – “I have an idea”: how The Intact Lab began

10:50 – Protecting teams to innovate

13:40 – The 30-day rule and rapid prototyping

15:10 – “Fail fast” only works with fast decisions

17:30 – Moving from Chief Digital Officer to CMO

20:10 – Mentorship and learning from Anne Fortin

23:00 – “Technology gives you speed. Storytelling gives you meaning.”

24:40 – The founders’ story: building values before brand

26:40 – Naming Intact and the red brackets

27:30 – Rebranding RSA: “not a marketing project — a company-wide one”

30:20 – Global consistency vs local freedom

33:10 – When “witty” means different things in different markets

37:00 – Building a household brand and resilient communities


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1 month ago
40 minutes 53 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
The Singles takes on OpenAI, Tylenol & Stiller Soda

In this episode, we dive deep into the latest marketing trends and campaigns we start by discussing OpenAI's new brand campaign, evaluating its impact and effectiveness. The conversation transitions to the growing competition in the AI space between ChatGPT and Claude, highlighting user adoption and brand health metrics. The trio also explores the recent controversies faced by Tylenol and how brand trust plays a crucial role in weathering PR storms. Lastly, they touch on Ben Stiller's foray into the healthier soda market with Stiller Soda and analyze the potential market dynamics. The episode is packed with insightful data and expert opinions, offering a comprehensive look at current marketing strategies and brand health management.


02:30 OpenAI's New Brand Campaign

03:23 AI Competitors and Market Penetration

08:17 Emotional Advertising and Brand Loyalty

13:25 Tylenol's PR Crisis and Brand Trust

21:02 Ben Stiller's Entry into the Soft Drink Market

29:16 Year-End Reflections


With thanks to Tracksuit


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2 months ago
33 minutes 7 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep26: Mark Ritson on The Biggest Mistakes Marketers Still Make & How to Stop

What happens when one of the world’s most opinionated marketing professors looks beyond 2025 and starts thinking about the 2030s?

In this unfiltered conversation, Mark Ritson joins Conor Byrne on That’s What I Call Marketing for a fast-moving, hilarious, and deeply practical chat about what marketers are getting wrong and what still works.


From pricing and profitability to AI and the Mini MBA, Ritson lays out the truths that most brands quietly ignore:

👉 The real reason discounting destroys long-term value.

👉 Why profitability, not revenue, is the measure that matters.

👉 How brand equity lets companies charge 30% more — and why few marketers understand margins.

👉 The coming decade of synthetic data, AI-driven planning, and marketing’s Thirties where the fundamentals still decide who wins.


We also dive into Ritson’s columns on Nestlé’s new CEO, brand consolidation, the chaos of AI branding, and his viral takes on Sydney Sweeney’s American Eagle ad. Expect blunt language, sharp analysis, and the kind of clarity only Ritson can deliver.


This is Ritson at full throttle cynical, evidence-based, and funny enough to make you forget you’re learning.


What You’ll Learn

Why pricing is the forgotten P — and marketers must reclaim it.

The psychological and financial damage of endless promotions.

What Nestlé’s portfolio clean-up reveals about focus and profit.

How the marketing profession lost the plot on creativity and strategy.

Why AI won’t kill marketing — it will expose who actually understands it.

The truth about the Mini MBA sale to Brave Bison and what’s next in the U.S.


⏱️ Episode Chapters

01:20 – Mark Ritson & his return to Dublin

03:00 – Why sold-out events show poor pricing strategy

04:30 – The hidden cost of discounting and brand devaluation

07:00 – How Kellogg’s proves the power of price premium

08:30 – Profitability vs. revenue: what marketers forget

10:20 – Why marketers must be part of pricing decisions

12:30 – Nestlé’s new CEO and the art of brand consolidation

15:00 – The 80/20 rule and why most portfolios are bloated

17:00 – “Kill a brand, keep a customer”: cutting smart

20:00 – Marketing talent and the future of brand management

22:00 – Have we over-hyped creativity?

23:00 – The 4Ps and why product and price still dominate

25:00 – Why marketers stop learning after launch

26:30 – “Strategy is the orgasm of marketing”

28:00 – OpenAI’s ad: a masterclass in bad branding

30:30 – The branding chaos in AI tools

31:50 – The “Thirties” lens: long-term change, not next-year fads

34:00 – What AI really means for marketers

36:00 – Why strong brands will still win in an AI world

38:00 – Synthetic data and the future of perfect marketing plans

40:30 – Sydney Sweeney, American Eagle & System1 scores

43:00 – Non-profits and the four Ps done right

46:00 – The Mini MBA sale & Brave Bison partnership

49:00 – The U.S. expansion plan with Adweek

51:00 – How success proved his own theories right

52:00 – On Ireland, Guinness, and the art of the deal

55:00 – Why Ireland outsmarted everyone in the EU

56:30 – Why Ritson never preps a talk — and why it works


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2 months ago
59 minutes 22 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep25: Building the Charity Water Brand with Brady Josephson, VP of Brand & Growth

What happens when one of the world’s most innovative nonprofits starts thinking like a modern brand?


In this episode of That’s What I Call Marketing, Conor Byrne sits down with Brady Josephson, VP of Growth and Brand at Charity: Water, to talk about building a brand that competes for hearts, minds and wallets in the same arena as Nike or Netflix, but without their budgets.


They discuss how nonprofits can use brand tracking, future demand thinking, and marketing mix modelling to grow sustainably; how Charity Water turned trust into a growth engine; and why experimentation, intuition, and creativity matter more than ever.


In partnership with Tracksuit, the always-on brand tracking platform helping nonprofits measure what matters.


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02:45 Brady’s path from teaching to purpose-driven marketing

05:30 The chip-on-the-shoulder moment: “How cute you work in nonprofit”

07:10 Solving the salary and perception problem with two bank accounts

09:00 The birth of Charity Water’s brand: intuition over focus groups

11:00 Proof, storytelling and tech: building Waterproof and donor trust

12:45 Rethinking competition — “We’re fighting Nike, not other nonprofits.”

15:00 From paid performance to brand tracking with Tracksuit

17:10 Future demand vs current demand: lessons from a plateau

19:45 Building brand salience when no one’s “in market”

21:00 How to run brand building on a limited budget

23:00 Experimentation, hypothesis thinking, and the difference between try, pilot, and test

27:20 Channel mix: why dominance matters more than diversification

31:10 TV, YouTube and MMM — what really drives donor acquisition

34:00 Segmentation, salience and Byron Sharp for nonprofits

36:00 The nonprofit plateau: learning from data, not instinct

37:10 AI, automation and the next frontier of giving

38:00 Brand trust and the simplicity of doing one thing brilliantly

41:00 Purpose, mastery, and marketing that matters


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2 months ago
45 minutes 5 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep24: The Brand Newsroom: Where Content & PR Come Together. The Building A Legacy Series

PR isn't dead—it's evolved. And most brands are still playing by the old rulebook.


In this episode we sit down with three communications leaders to dissect how modern PR actually works: Pippa Doyle (Global PR at Whoop), Shireen McDonagh (Brand & Content at Legacy Communications), and Niamh Hopkins (Head of Consumer PR at Legacy).


This isn't theory. You'll hear the real story of how an agency changed a client's mind with a single email. Why Whoop runs exclusive events instead of chasing scale. How Krispy Kreme owned the news cycle in 24 hours when Leo Varadkar resigned. And why "freedom through structure" unlocks better creative than open-ended briefs.


If you're a marketer, brand leader, or agency professional wondering why your PR feels stuck in 2010, this conversation will rewire how you think about communications, content, and building brand fame in a cluttered market.

What You'll Learn:


Why PR should be renamed "communications" (and what that shift actually means)

The briefing framework that gets agencies to do their best work

How to turn one event into months of content across every channel

The truth about influencer numbers vs. engagement (and when each matters)

Why budget constraints unlock creativity instead of killing it

The "brand newsroom" model and who should be your editor-in-chief

How smaller brands can win with agility against bigger competitors


CHAPTERS:

00:00 - Introduction: The Evolution of PR

02:15 - Why "PR" Needs to Become "Communications"

04:25 - Case Study: How One Email Changed a Client's Mind

07:00 - What PR Actually Drives: Fame, Awareness & Word of Mouth

10:04 - Why Great Campaigns Start With Great Briefs

11:16 - The "Freedom Through Structure" Briefing Framework

13:14 - Why Budget Can Be a Beautiful Constraint

14:27 - Events as Content Machines, Not One-Day Moments

18:27 - Measuring Event Success: Beyond Who Showed Up

19:45 - Working With Influencers & Creators: Authenticity First

23:06 - Does Follower Count Actually Matter?

26:45 - Reactive Content Done Right: Aldi's Oasis & Krispy Kreme's Leo Moment

28:00 - The Brand Newsroom Model: Operating Like a Publisher

29:14 - Speed, Approvals & Team Alignment

32:05 - Practical Advice: Setting Up Your Comms Function for Success

37:52 - The Editor-in-Chief Role: Who Defends the Idea?


with Legacy Communications


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3 months ago
38 minutes 17 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep23: AI & The Evolution of Search, Building A Legacy Series

PR has always been about influence. Coverage, credibility, shaping the conversation. But in 2025, PR is becoming something bigger: the infrastructure that powers discovery itself.


In this episode of That’s What I Call Marketing, we unpack the collision of PR, SEO, and brand building in the age of AI search. Google’s AI Overviews, ChatGPT, and other tools are no longer sending users to ten blue links. They’re generating answers directly in the results. And those answers don’t come from nowhere.


Research shows that 89% of AI summaries trace back to earned media sources. Trusted outlets. Independent stories. Journalism that carries weight. Which means PR isn’t just a “nice to have” for reputation anymore — it’s becoming the raw material that decides whether your brand even shows up in the customer journey.


Across this conversation, we explore what that means for marketers:


  • Why PR and SEO can’t live in silos, and how the brand newsroom model makes them work together.
  • How to build visibility when there’s no guarantee of a click — and why being named in the answer might be more valuable than a referral.
  • The role of blogs and owned content in the AI era — why they still matter, even if they never rank.
  • How attribution is breaking down, and what marketers can do to rethink measurement when direct traffic and PPC get over-credited.
  • Practical tactics: answering every related question in your content, writing for bots as much as for humans, and creating proof that compounds rather than one-off case studies.
  • Why creative PR still matters more than ever, and how to structure stories that journalists — and machines — can’t ignore.


This isn’t a theoretical debate. It’s a frontline look at how PR is changing, why credibility is the most valuable currency in marketing, and what teams need to do to stay visible in a world where discovery is shifting beneath our feet.


If you care about where marketing is going, how to keep your brand discoverable, and why PR is entering a new golden age, this is the episode for you.


1:50 – The “oh shit” moment: Google AI Overviews

7:48 – PR as trust signals in AI

13:01 – Discovery beyond Google

15:35 – Blogs still matter

23:17 – Attribution is broken

31:22 – SEO becomes a brand function

44:08 – Writing for bots, not humans

49:20 – Don’t chase every shiny channel

57:00 – Building a Legacy


The Building A Legacy Series are in partnership with Legacy Communications


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3 months ago
47 minutes 4 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
The Singles Ep10: Is Brewdog Done? Will Diageo & Indeed drive efficiencies? TayTay & Travis Love Brand & Gordon & BK Collab.

Discover the challenges and strategies of leading brands such as Diageo and Indeed in navigating marketing spend and efficiency. Explore the rise and fall of BrewDog within the competitive beer category. Celebrate the unexpected but impactful engagement of Taylor Swift and Kansas City Chiefs' Travis Kelce, and the buzz around Gordon Ramsay's new Wagyu burger collaboration with Burger King. With expert analysis from Tracksuit this episode is packed with valuable insights for marketers navigating a rapidly changing landscape. Don't miss out on these compelling stories rooted in brand data and strategy!



02:43 Marketing Strategies of Major Brands

04:40 Balancing Efficiency and Brand Building

06:13 The Role of AI and Organic Channels

06:32 Case Study: Indeed's Marketing Approach

08:42 Historical Evidence on Marketing Cuts

17:11 BrewDog's Market Performance

20:07 BrewDog's Brand Health and Challenges

20:35 BrewDog's Rebranding and Market Position

21:12 Cultural Impact on BrewDog's Brand

23:24 BrewDog's Competition and Strategic Moves

25:46 Taylor Swift and Kansas City Chiefs: A Brand Collaboration

32:50 Gordon Ramsey and Burger King Collaboration


Find the hosts:

  • Jasper: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasperskinner/
  • Dan:https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-fleming-a15854118/
  • Conor: https://www.linkedin.com/in/conorbyrne/



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3 months ago
39 minutes 32 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep22: Sir John Hegarty on The Business of Creativity

An in-depth conversation with the legendary Sir John Hegarty. Renowned for his groundbreaking work in advertising, Sir John shares his invaluable insights on the evolution of marketing, the role of creativity, and the future impact of AI on the industry. We explore Sir John's early career challenges, including being fired from his first job, and how these setbacks fueled his persistence and success.


Hear John talk about the campaign he loves, the one no one talks about as well as fascinating anecdotes behind iconic campaigns like Levi's 'Laundrette' and understand the magic behind their creation.


Discover why Sir John believes that creativity is the lifeblood of innovation and how companies can harness it for exponential growth. Learn about the importance of experimentation and the pitfalls of relying solely on data and algorithms.


This episode is a treasure trove of wisdom for anyone passionate about marketing, advertising, and creativity. Don't miss out on this opportunity to gain knowledge from one of the greatest minds in the industry.



00:58 Introducing Sir John Hegerty

01:17 The Knighthood Experience

03:27 Early Career Challenges

04:19 The Power of Failure

06:59 The Creative Revolution in Advertising

12:29 Iconic Campaigns and Their Impact

26:14 The Role of Humor and Testing in Advertising

34:00 The Importance of Creativity in Business

35:58 The Future of Marketing and Creativity

36:15 Stalking and Modern Advertising

37:18 The Role of AI in Marketing

39:00 Product Demonstration and AI

40:08 The CMO's New Role

42:02 The Importance of Creativity

44:41 Creativity in Business

46:29 The Impact of AI on Jobs

48:47 Experimentation and Fun in Marketing

55:22 Challenges and Fear in Marketing

01:04:20 Reflecting on a Legacy


Find out more about Sir John's course here

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3 months ago
1 hour 11 minutes 1 second

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep21: Kaveri Camire CMO of DXC Technology on Building brand in a tech world

Kaveri Camire, the Chief Marketing Officer (CMO) of DXC Technologies, to delve into the multifaceted world of B2B marketing. Kaveri shares her impressive 20-year career journey at IBM and the significant transition to her current role. The conversation explores various themes, including brand positioning, international marketing, corporate culture, and the adoption of AI in marketing strategies. Kaveri emphasises the importance of building personal and professional narratives and how that helps frame new market categories. The discussion covers her hands-on approach to team building, the challenges of navigating large organisations, and her methodologies for driving growth and innovation through data-driven decisions. Kaveri also touches upon notable client partnerships, the intrinsic value of human connection in business, and the power of effective storytelling.


05:00 Lessons from IBM: Innovation, Global Operations, and Market Categories

08:30 Kaveri’s Role at DXC Technologies: Brand Positioning and Growth

10:00 Navigating Large Organizations: The Power of Humility and Networking

14:50 Experimentation in Marketing: Start Small and Scale

18:30 The Importance of Face-to-Face Meetings: Learning from Global Teams

22:50 Getting to Know the Company: Aligning with Sales and Offering Leaders

28:30 Customer Relationship Management: Listening and Innovating [30:00] Real-world Applications: Success Stories with Key Clients

36:00 Business Value of Sponsorships: Client-led Value in Partnerships

42:02 Strategic partnerships and sponsorships

45:38 Challenges and advice for CMOs


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3 months ago
53 minutes 42 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep20: B2B Creativity that drives growth from Brand to Demand with Wendy Walker

B2B marketing doesn’t have to be boring. In this episode, we unpack how creativity drives measurable B2B growth—uniting brand and demand, scaling global ideas locally, proving ROI, and using AI where it actually moves the needle. You’ll hear from Salesforce’s APAC marketing leader and Cannes Lions Creative B2B jury president on the playbook behind human-to-human work that fills pipelines, not just decks.


What you’ll learn

  • Brand→Demand, together: Why separating brand and demand hurts performance—and how bringing them into one plan makes ROI easier to prove.
  • Global to local at scale (the 70/30 rule): What to keep from HQ and what to adapt—plus why a deep customer-story library is a B2B cheat code.
  • Creativity that converts: The B2B decade is here—emotion, humor, and human truth are now winning at the highest level.
  • Measurement that matters: How to include brand spend in the business case and show full-funnel impact.
  • AI that actually helps marketers: From segmentation and targeting lifts to marketers building agents in ~20 minutes—practical ways AI amplifies outcomes.
  • Small business spotlight: What the Cannes Grand Prix winner signals about SMB-focused B2B and the rise of meaningful creator/influencer roles.


Who this episode is for

B2B CMOs, VPs, and growth leaders who need to scale creativity, prove impact, and translate global platforms into local results—without losing speed.


02:15 Episode starts • hello, Cannes context, setting the agenda.

03:15 Agency lessons in SE Asia • Mindshare perspective.

04:46 Operating in 185+ markets • global expansion as a career crucible.

05:49 Head-down, hands-dirty growth • owning your voice.

08:44 Sponsorship over self-promotion • lifting others as a leader.

16:48 How to land in new markets • agents, on-ground research, and digital sales.

18:28 Weekly stack-ranking 185 markets • what to optimise and when.

21:03 Sliding-doors into Salesforce • building the SE Asia marketing team.

22:16 Why Jakarta matters • local talent and skills on the rise.

23:44 The 70/30 rule • global platforms, local edge + customer story library.

24:56 The B2B decade • creativity, buying groups of ~23, and being human.

26:05 Brands getting B2B right • Workday, ServiceNow, Canva.

31:44 Measurement that matters • include brand spend in the business case.

33:15 AI that actually helps • targeting, segmentation, “20-minute” agents.

35:18 Future talent in an AI world • learning without losing the craft.

37:22 Cannes 2025 takeaways • best year yet for Creative B2B; emotion rises.

38:44 From token purpose to real value • long-term, business-backed impact.

51:41 Mentoring future female leaders •.


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4 months ago
55 minutes 5 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep19: Kelloggs on Backing The Bird with VP Jenn Carkner & Snr Dir Stephen Duggan

The fastest way to grow 17 brands might be to advertise one.


Kellogg’s made a deliberate shift from spreading budget across 17 sub-brands to backing the masterbrand—reviving underused distinctive assets (hello, Cornelius), aligning a region on one idea, and building a creative platform with swagger. “Ultimately, a brand is a promise.”


What this episode covers:


  • Masterbrand vs sub-brands: Why the team said, “We absolutely have to back the master brand”—and how one super-asset can “float all the other boats.”
  • Global idea, local truth: The universal insight—win the morning (“you do you”) or you compromise the day—rooted in a 300+ person ethnographic study across Europe.
  • Distinctive Brand Assets with plot (not just props): The DBA audit that unlocked Back the Bird, plus the moment the team literally “backed the bird.”
  • Music as memory structure: How Jurassic 5 became their first-ever ad license—and why the track was stress-tested on set until nobody could imagine the film without it.
  • Retail reality: Competing with own-label through superior product + brand value, a ruthless shelf line—Get the Original—and activations only Kellogg’s can do (e.g., EFL soccer camps).
  • Effectiveness & scale: Ipsos and System1 pre-tests scored extremely highly; early sentiment is off the charts across UK/IE and also France/Italy—giving confidence to build the platform out.


01:36 Kellogg's Legacy and Marketing Philosophy

02:19 The Power of the Kellogg Master Brand

06:20 Building Internal Alignment

12:06 Global to Local Marketing Challenges

20:44 Reviving Cornelius the Rooster

24:20 Discovering Cornelius: The Strong DBA Asset

25:08 The Role of Music in Advertising

28:36 The Journey of Marketing Transformation

32:46 Facing the Challenge of Own Label Brands

37:19 The Power of Creativity and Brand Identity

39:25 Measuring Success and Future Plans

44:22 A Defining Moment for the Brand


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4 months ago
50 minutes 26 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
The Singles EP9: American Eagle, Ibiza Final Boss, Lavzza Coffee, F1 & Jet2 Holidays with Tracksuit

In this episode of 'The Singles,' we explore a range of exciting topics, from analyzing American Eagle's controversial Sydney Sweeney ad to uncovering the growth behind the British Grand Prix. We also delve into Lavazza's heartwarming coffee campaigns and discuss the unpredictable virality of internet sensations, including the 'Ibiza Final Boss.' Get ready for data-backed insights, hilarious moments, and a whole lot of marketing wisdom. Don't forget to like, share, and review to help us reach more listeners in the ever-changing podcasting landscape. Tune in now for an unmissable episode!


03:12 American Eagle and Sydney Sweeney Controversy

15:38 British Grand Prix and Formula One Insights

23:45 Lavazza's Emotional Coffee Campaign

29:10 Cultural Moments and Reactive Marketing

35:35 Jet2 Holidays and Brand Perception


Find the hosts:

  • Jasper: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasperskinner/
  • Dan:https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-fleming-a15854118/
  • Conor: https://www.linkedin.com/in/conorbyrne/



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4 months ago
40 minutes 43 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep18: How The RealReal is Winning the Luxury Resale Game with Caroline Gardner

The RealReal has become the world’s largest authenticated luxury resale platform — with 38 million members, over 40 million items sold, and a brand people can’t stop talking about. But how did they get here? And why are they winning the luxury resale game while so many others fade out?


In this episode of That’s What I Call Marketing, Caroline shares the creative strategies, brand values, and bold moves that have propelled The RealReal to the top. From her start in luxury hospitality at Ritz-Carlton to leading marketing for one of fashion’s most disruptive players, she reveals what it takes to build trust, scale a community, and stand out in a crowded market.


Inside this episode:


💥Values as a competitive advantage – The gold standards from Ritz-Carlton that still shape Caroline’s leadership today.

💥Campaigns that cut through – If You Love Me, Let It Go and Ask Yourself What’s Real, and why the insights behind them matter.

💥Going where you’re invited – Why Substack became an unlikely but powerful growth channel.

💥Creators done differently – Letting influencers tell the story in their own way.

💥Authenticity in the age of counterfeits – How The RealReal tackles trust head-on in a market flooded with fakes.

💥 The future of resale – Growth, expansion, and why personal style beats algorithms.


Whether you work in marketing, luxury, or sustainability, this episode gives you a behind-the-scenes look at how a brand can win by being clear on its values, obsessive about experience, and bold in its creative choices.


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2:12 – Caroline’s career path: from consulting to luxury hospitality

3:09 – Gold Standards: the Ritz-Carlton values that shaped her approach

4:36 – Bringing hospitality mindset into The RealReal’s DNA

5:20 – The RealReal’s mission: sustainability, access & personal style

6:20 – Building a member-first community in a resale marketplace

7:00 – Going where you’re invited: why The RealReal invested in Substack

8:05 – Meet “The Real Girl”: storytelling meets resale market insights

8:42 – Campaign spotlight: If You Love Me, Let It Go – giving customers permission to sell

10:37 – Tackling counterfeits with Ask Yourself What’s Real

12:52 – Inside the creative setup: in-house team & trusted agency partners

14:12 – Shifting from bottom-funnel to full-funnel marketing

15:06 – Creator partnerships: letting influencers tell the story their way

18:39 – Why trust matters more than follower count

20:09 – AI, search, and keeping cultural fluency at the core

22:56 – Why customer experience is still the ultimate growth driver

23:10 – Future of The RealReal: growth, stores & personal style journeys


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4 months ago
28 minutes 39 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep18:THE BATTLE OF THE ROBOTS with (sort of!) Mark Ritson, Prof. Byron Sharp, Prof. Scott Galloway & James Hurman

In this captivating experiment, we bring together ChatGPT and Claude to channel the thoughts and strategies of renowned marketing experts Mark Ritson, Byron Sharp, Scott Galloway, and James Hurman. This episode dives deep into hotly debated marketing principles such as segmentation, targeting, and positioning, the myth or necessity of differentiation, and the optimal balance between brand building and performance marketing. From exploring whether traditional marketing models are outdated to discussing the importance of mental availability and brand distinctiveness, ChatGPT and Claude provide unique perspectives by embodying famous thought leaders. You'll hear strong arguments on both sides, including detailed strategies for brands with limited budgets and insights on how AI is transforming the world of search. Is differentiation essential, or is distinctiveness the key to brand success? Should marketers focus on broad reach or targeted campaigns? How will AI reshape the landscape of consumer interactions and search? Join us as we address these questions and more in a compelling AI-driven debate. Don't miss the chance to see which AI delivers a more convincing argument and what real marketing heavyweights might think of their digital counterparts. Share your thoughts on who you believe was the better debater—ChatGPT or Claude? Tune in to find out.

00:00 – Intro: Robots Debate Marketing

00:47 – Why this matters

01:32 – Meet ChatGPT & Claude

02:22 – STP: Outdated or essential?

02:52 – Differentiation vs Distinctiveness

03:46 – Reach or segments?

04:29 – What should small brands do?

05:16 – Budget advice: Claude vs ChatGPT

06:49 – Do great brands advertise?

08:01 – Galloway vs Hurman

09:20 – What to tell a CFO

10:45 – Are you contradicting yourself?

11:52 – Innovation vs advertising

12:23 – €1M plan for challenger brands

13:49 – Fame first, clicks second

14:44 – How AI changes search

15:56 – If you're not in the model, you don't exist

16:24 – Final thoughts


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5 months ago
20 minutes 27 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
S4 Ep 17: Taking Brand to the Boardroom | Matt Herbert (Tracksuit Co-Founder) on Brand, Growth & Global Scale

What does it really take to bring brand into the boardroom—and keep it there?


In this episode of That’s What I Call Marketing, I sit down with Matt Herbert, co-founder of Tracksuit, for a conversation that moves fast—just like the rocket ship he’s helping build. We talk Series B funding, global expansion (from Bondi to Brooklyn), burnout, brand belief, and why Tracksuit is obsessed with making brand tracking a business conversation, not just a marketing one.


If you're trying to bridge the gap between marketing and the C-suite, or building a brand with B2B swagger, this one's for you.


03:10 – The Series B journey: months in the making

04:30 – How Tracksuit scaled intentionally (and why they waited)

06:20 – Lessons from cracking the US market

08:15 – Why agencies matter to Tracksuit's model

09:35 – Brand health: When awareness is high but trust is low

11:05 – Airbnb, Hilton & what brand data reveals

12:25 – Making brand a boardroom conversation

13:45 – What the C-suite really needs to hear from marketing

15:20 – Instacart's 3-year journey to full-funnel marketing

17:10 – Don’t convince—connect: Learning to speak CFO

18:45 – Brand building for B2B: How Tracksuit lives its own advice

20:00 – Scaling culture without losing yourself

21:50 – Hiring right: From whiteboards to value systems

24:00 – Growing internationally without losing local nuance

26:15 – Why localisation is more than just translation

27:45 – The burnout no one sees: Leading through the scale-up phase

30:00 – Connection, clarity, courage: The Tracksuit leadership triangle

31:20 – Making market research aspirational (yes, really)

32:30 – Final thoughts: Doing serious work, without taking yourself too seriously

🎙️ Guest:

Matt Herbert, Co-Founder of Tracksuit

🎧 Host:

Conor Byrne

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5 months ago
30 minutes 43 seconds

That's What I Call Marketing
Conor Byrne hosts That's What I Call Marketing meeting some of the most incredible marketing minds in our industry, CMO's, founders and marketing leaders from across the globe, this podcast tackles the big issues facing marketers today, as well as providing inspiration by hearing the incredible stories marketing leaders share of their journey to the top.

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