This is the Atomic Construction Podcast; the show where we break down what it really takes to build better projects, stronger teams, and a more respected construction industry.
Hosted by Kevin Hohe…construction leader and lifelong learner.
Every week, he sits down with people who are out there doing the work, like Kyle Nitchen, to talk honestly about the challenges, wins, and wild stories behind the job sites.
We cover everything from scaling businesses and navigating project costs…
…to building strong leadership, creating community, and restoring real respect to the trades.
So if you’re in the construction world or just want to hear what it takes to build something that lasts - you’re in the right place.
Hit follow, and join us every week on the Atomic Construction Podcast, produced by Pineapple Audio Production.
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This is the Atomic Construction Podcast; the show where we break down what it really takes to build better projects, stronger teams, and a more respected construction industry.
Hosted by Kevin Hohe…construction leader and lifelong learner.
Every week, he sits down with people who are out there doing the work, like Kyle Nitchen, to talk honestly about the challenges, wins, and wild stories behind the job sites.
We cover everything from scaling businesses and navigating project costs…
…to building strong leadership, creating community, and restoring real respect to the trades.
So if you’re in the construction world or just want to hear what it takes to build something that lasts - you’re in the right place.
Hit follow, and join us every week on the Atomic Construction Podcast, produced by Pineapple Audio Production.
And let us know what you think with our feedback form.
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this brutally honest solo episode of Atomic Construction, host Kevin Hohe drops the guest list and opens up about one of the worst projects he’s ever run — and what it taught him about leadership, failure, and how to handle chaos when everything goes wrong.
From lost anchors to angry emails, Kevin walks listeners through the anatomy of a “bad job,” sharing what it’s like to be the small contractor caught in the crossfire of miscommunication, poor planning, and blame. But more than a story about mistakes, this is a conversation about accountability, about how to lead with humility, how to reset a broken relationship, and how to tell the difference between a good project manager and a bad one.
Because at the end of the day, as Kevin says, every construction project comes down to people, and there are only two kinds: Randy, the collaborative leader who takes ownership and helps everyone win, and Billy Bob, the finger-pointer who makes sure everyone else takes the fall.
In this episode
• What to do when a project goes completely sideways
• How to repair trust with clients and GCs after failure
• Why collaboration beats litigation every time
• The hidden power of taking total ownership
• How to spot whether you’re working for a “Randy” or a “Billy Bob”
• Why the best jobs are often the ones you don’t take
A candid, hard-earned masterclass in leadership from the field, packed with real stories, painful lessons, and the kind of truth most builders are too proud to admit.
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In this solo episode of Atomic Construction, host Kevin Hohe takes the mic to talk about one of the toughest and most overlooked parts of the construction industry: people and culture. With no guest lined up, Kevin uses the time to reflect on the mission behind Atomic Construction, the growing skills gap, and how the trades can reclaim pride, purpose, and profitability.
Drawing on two decades in the industry and lessons from growing Complete Fence from a five million to a hundred million dollar business, Kevin breaks down what makes great teams thrive and why culture is not a buzzword but a daily practice. From defining company values to firing high performers who do not align with them, he explores how to build a workplace that attracts, inspires, and retains the best talent in the trades.
In this episode
• Why the construction industry is facing a major skills gap
• How to build purpose into blue collar work
• The difference between values written on a wall and values lived every day
• Why culture should be your company’s strongest foundation
• Lessons from growing a business and failing forward
• How to create opportunity for people willing to work and grow
• Why authenticity, grit, and shared purpose define great teams
Kevin closes with a challenge to every tradesperson and business owner: invest in culture, live your values, and build better together.
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In this episode of Atomic Construction, Kevin Hohe sits down with Dan Wheeler, founder of River City Fence and host of The Fence Industry Podcast, to talk about grit, growth, and the lessons learned from four decades in the trades. What begins as a conversation between two builders turns into an honest exploration of evolution, from running family businesses to shaping an entire industry through curiosity and community.
Dan shares how he turned his father’s small town fence company into a multi crew operation while producing more than 500 podcast episodes and helping others grow along the way. Together, Kevin and Dan unpack what it means to lead by example, the tension between craftsmanship and entrepreneurship, and how the trades can reclaim the respect they deserve.
In this episode:
• Why being the best builder is not the same as being the best business owner
• How curiosity and networking sparked the first fence industry podcast
• The power of evolving from hands on work to leadership
• Why mentorship and community matter more than competition
• What it means to build something that lasts, on site and in life
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In this laugh-filled episode of Atomic Construction, Kevin Hohe sits down with two of his favorite teammates, Tony and Dale - affectionately known as the goon squad - to talk about the people behind the fences. What starts as a casual chat quickly turns into a story of reinvention, grit and humor inside a growing construction company that refuses to take itself too seriously.
From IT desks and mortgage offices to muddy yards and million-dollar builds, Tony and Dale share how they made the leap into construction, why culture matters more than polish and how their light-hearted video series Fence Levity is helping reshape what people think construction looks like. Expect jokes, honesty and plenty of heart.
In this episode
• How two non-builders became construction professionals
• What it takes to change industries and find purpose again
• The birth of Fence Levity and how humor drives connection
• Why authenticity beats perfection in business and leadership
• Building a company culture where people actually like showing up
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Kevin and Kyle are back together on Atomic Construction after a few weeks away, and this conversation is a reminder of why they make such a strong team. Kyle shares what life has been like balancing newborn chaos at home with leading multiple high-stakes construction projects, and how he is learning that life moves in seasons. He talks about what it takes to deliver complex builds under pressure, the safety wins his team has celebrated, and why trust is the real foundation of any successful project.
Kevin opens up about the cultural challenges of scaling his own company, the lessons in leadership he is living out daily, and the balance between hitting financial goals and building a workplace people love. Together they explore the unconventional realities of building core and shell structures while designing interiors on the fly, the two-in-a-box leadership model at Leighton, and how clarity between project managers and superintendents can make or break a job.
Kyle also takes Kevin inside his Notion setup — a project operating system that centralizes roadblocks, risk logs, procurement, and leadership dashboards in one place. He explains why moving beyond spreadsheets gave him a two-hundred percent productivity boost and why a second brain is essential for managing growth and big vision.
This episode is a mix of personal updates, practical tools, and honest reflections on leadership, culture, and the future of construction.
In this episode
• Kyle on newborn life and leading major projects under pressure
• How Leighton’s two-in-the-box model keeps PMs and Supers aligned
• The importance of trust in unconventional project delivery
• Kevin’s story of transforming numbers and now rebuilding culture
• Why clarity on risk, roadblocks, and roles matters more than perfect plans
• How Kyle uses Notion as a project operating system and second brain
• Lessons on productivity, conflict resolution, and leadership in construction
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Kevin Hohe sits down with financial strategist Patrick Shurney to talk about the numbers behind building a thriving construction business. Patrick shares how understanding seven key financial metrics can transform contractors from simply working harder to actually building wealth.
Patrick explains why contractors often underperform despite high revenue, and how shifting mindset, tightening bookkeeping, and creating a clear roadmap can help business owners scale sustainably. He emphasizes the importance of knowing your numbers, having a three year plan, and seeking outside perspective to avoid blind spots.
The conversation also touches on mentorship, the realities of coaching, and the balance between execution and strategy. Patrick reminds us that success is less about grinding and more about clarity, action, and building systems that last.
In this episode
• The seven numbers every contractor needs to track
• Why most construction businesses leave profit on the table
• The role of mindset in breaking through financial ceilings
• How good bookkeeping can change the trajectory of a company
• The difference between a coach, a bookkeeper, and a fractional CFO
• Why action beats perfection when it comes to financial planning
• Patrick’s favorite client success stories and what they teach us
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Kevin’s first solo Atomic Construction episode lays out a clear mission for the trades: elevate respect for craft, make entry simple and dignified, bridge the skills gap through mentorship, and fight for specialty contractor rights. He previews data driven gear reviews, a trades first merch line, and a practical eight step playbook for scaling a specialty business.
Kevin’s eight step starter playbook
8. Scale with intent
Books he recommends
Past Atomic Construction episodes to cue up
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In this episode of Atomic Construction, Kevin Hohe is joined by Megan Shapiro, construction attorney, partner at Rudoslavich Shapiro, and founder of Construction Contract Coach. Megan takes us through her journey from criminal law to finding her passion in construction law and why she chose to represent the trades when so many lawyers side with GCs, owners, or insurance companies.
Megan breaks down the realities of civil litigation, the pitfalls of insurance-appointed counsel, and how the system often stacks the deck against subcontractors. She also shares practical strategies for reviewing and redlining contracts, explains her OWN framework for negotiation, and makes the case for why trade contractors hold more power than they realise at the bargaining table.
This is a candid, eye-opening conversation about law, fairness, and what it takes to protect your business in a litigious industry.
Key Takeaways:
Megan’s story is proof that contracts are not just paperwork, they are tools of leverage, protection and empowerment.
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In this powerful episode of Atomic Construction, Kevin Hohe welcomes veteran and business owner John La Giglia, co-founder of Chicago Fire Protection. From serving in Iraq and Afghanistan to co-founding a company that now employs nearly 100 people, John’s story is one of grit, perseverance and the power of community.
John shares how his military service shaped his leadership, how the Helmets to Hard Hats program helped him transition into the trades and why integrity and camaraderie matter just as much as skill on the job site. He opens up about starting a business with his brother-in-law from his in-laws’ computer room, pushing through near financial collapse, and what it takes to keep growing while staying true to your values.
This conversation is a reminder that construction is more than concrete and contracts. It is about people, purpose and leaving the world better than you found it.
Key Takeaways:
Whether you’re in the trades, leading a team or building your own business, John’s story will inspire you to push through challenges and focus on what really matters.
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On this episode of Atomic Construction, Kevin is joined by Paul Wende, Business Manager of Chicago’s Local 63 Ironworkers Union, for a no-holds-barred conversation about the real state of the trades.
From navigating outdated perceptions of unions to expanding fence work across the country, Paul brings sharp insight, heart, and a healthy dose of grit.
Together, they unpack:
Whether you’re boots-on-the-ground or behind a desk, this episode pulls back the curtain on the politics, power, and people shaping the construction world.
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In this episode of the Atomic Construction Podcast, Kevin Hohe sits down with Sean Du Fosse for a raw conversation about the real challenges that come with building a meaningful career in construction.
Together they dig into what it means to build resilience, why having a clear sense of purpose matters when times get tough and how asking better questions can make you a stronger leader.
From navigating tough decisions to finding the grit to keep going when projects, and life, don’t go to plan, Sean’s insights remind us that construction is about more than tools and concrete. It’s about the people who choose to show up, push through and build something better every day.
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In this episode of the Atomic Construction Podcast, Kevin Hohe and Kyle Nitchen sit down with Scott Kimpland for an honest conversation about what it really takes to lead well in the construction industry.
Scott shares stories from his career, the lessons he’s learned about putting people first, and why culture is the backbone of any successful project.
Kevin, Kyle and Scott dig into the everyday challenges that leaders face on site, from aligning teams to managing conflict, and why clear communication and genuine care can make all the difference. They also touch on what the industry still gets wrong about leadership and how the next generation can raise the bar by focusing on trust, accountability and respect.
Whether you’re managing your first crew or running a multi-million dollar build, this conversation is a reminder that good construction isn’t just about bricks and budgets, it’s about people.
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In this episode of the Atomic Construction Podcast, Kevin Hohe talks with Cesar Barbosa about his inspiring journey from being a Mexican-American immigrant to becoming a successful electrician and founder of New Life Power.
Cesar shares how trade education, discipline and faith shaped his path, and why he believes mentorship is the key to lifting up the next generation of tradespeople.
They discuss the practical challenges of building a business in the trades, the importance of updating aging solar systems and how Cesar’s company is bridging technical solutions with community impact. This conversation is also a call for unity, reminding listeners that in a divided world, we need bridges and walls, profit and purpose, and above all, people who give back.
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In this episode of the Atomic Construction Podcast, Kevin Hohe sits down with Austin Schmitz to unpack his journey through the construction industry. Austin shares how curiosity, grit, and a willingness to learn helped him build a meaningful career in an industry where every day brings new challenges.
They talk about the power of mentorship, what good leadership really looks like on a site, and why mistakes can be the best teachers if you stay open to growth. Austin reflects on the realities of the modern construction industry, how teamwork holds projects together, and what advice he’d give to the next generation stepping into the trades.
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In this conversation, Kevin and Kyle discuss various aspects of the construction industry, focusing on project updates, the importance of building a construction community, and the principles of lean construction.
They explore the challenges faced in the industry, the need for efficient project management, and the significance of establishing core values that align with lean practices. The discussion emphasizes the necessity of reducing waste and maximizing value in construction projects, while also addressing the cultural shifts required to implement these changes effectively.
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In this episode of Atomic Construction, Kevin Hohe and Kyle Nitchen dive into the official launch of Project OS; a custom-built Notion template designed specifically for the construction industry. Project OS addresses a long-standing gap in the tools available for efficient project oversight and team coordination.
Kyle shares the inspiration behind the product, how years of hands-on project management led to its development, and why Project OS could be a game-changer for construction professionals. They unpack the features, discuss the pricing model, and explore how this tool empowers project managers and operations executives to gain visibility, structure their work, and streamline their workflow, without relying on complex ERP systems.
Whether you're running a single build or juggling multiple projects, this episode offers insight into how digital tools like Project OS can help construction teams move faster, stay aligned, and build better.
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In this episode of Atomic Construction, Kevin Hohe sits down with Peggy Aschenbrenner to trace her bold journey from the world of healthcare leadership into the fast-paced construction industry.
Peggy shares how a strict upbringing and a strong work ethic shaped her early career, her experiences leading through the chaos of COVID-19, and why she ultimately made the leap into construction.
They explore what it takes to lead with values, adapt across industries, and build a workplace culture that empowers people to thrive. From ethical challenges in healthcare to scheduling challenges in construction, Peggy’s story is one of resilience, reinvention, and purpose.
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In this episode of Atomic Construction, Kevin Hohe and Kyle Nitchen dive into what it really means to lead, at work and in life.
They talk about the power of vision, the mental load of always being “on,” and how knowing your purpose (your ikigai) can lead to a more fulfilling career and a healthier mindset.
Kyle opens up about welcoming his second child and the lessons that came with stepping back and trusting his team. Together, they explore the balance between leadership and management, the emotional discipline required to disconnect, and why redefining wealth beyond money might be the secret to long-term success in the construction industry.
This conversation is packed with reflections on personal growth, resilience, and the importance of creating space; for your team, your goals, and your own mental health.
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In this episode of the Atomic Construction Podcast, Kevin Hohe sits down with Lisa Pickell, CEO of Orren Pickell Builders and a powerful voice in the construction industry.
Lisa shares her journey from growing up in a family business to becoming a leader in her own right - driven by curiosity, a passion for design, and a deep respect for the trades.
Together, they explore the real challenges facing the construction industry today, from generational disconnects to unrealistic client expectations. Lisa opens up about the importance of early communication, mentorship, and empathy, and why being part of someone’s home-building journey is both a responsibility and a privilege.
Whether you're leading a team or just starting out, this episode is a masterclass in thoughtful leadership and the evolving role of women in construction.
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In this episode of the Atomic Construction Podcast, Kevin Hohe sits down with David Dastur of Jensen Halstead, an architectural firm with roots going back to 1868. David shares insights into the world of healthcare and senior living design, the unique challenges of working in highly specialized sectors, and why effective communication between architects, engineers, and contractors is critical for a successful project.
From budgeting and design fees to the intricacies of stormwater detention systems, David breaks down what it really takes to move a project from vision to reality. The conversation also explores the evolving nature of the construction industry, the need for better education and leadership, and why designing spaces that improve lives is more important than chasing iconic status.
This is a conversation for anyone who’s ever wondered what happens before the first shovel hits the ground, and why teamwork makes all the difference.
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