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Unlock the potential of Business as Mission (BAM) through the lens of modern tentmaking. In this episode, Gustavo Borges, Director of Tent Brazil and leader of Tent USA, explains why your professional career is your most strategic mission field. Whether you work in IT, healthcare, or engineering, you are a "job taker" called to integrate your faith into the marketplace.
Learn the "fishing evangelism" strategy—living a life that invites inquiry and building intentional relationships with non-believers in any country. If you want to move from being a "job seeker" to a global kingdom worker, this interview provides the roadmap for marketplace ministry and reaching the unreached through your daily work.
Connect with Gustavo Borges:
Organization: Tent International
Website: tentinternational.org
Upcoming Training: Go Equipped Course (Jan 30 – Feb 1, 2026 | La Grange, GA)
In this episode of the Business as Mission Podcast, host Mike Baer sits down with Andrew Steier, founder of Always Going and author of Always Going: The Joyful Overflow of Everyday Evangelism. Andrew shares his personal journey from "faking" Christianity to discovering a vibrant, overflowing faith that naturally reaches others in everyday life—including the business world.Whether you are a business owner, a founder in a cross-cultural setting, or an employee in a corporate environment, this conversation provides a refreshing and practical framework for "Overflow Evangelism." 💡 Key Topics Covered:- The "As You Go" Mentality: Why evangelism isn't a scheduled event, but a lifestyle of making disciples while you go about your daily work.- Overcoming Fear & HR Barriers: How to talk about what God is doing in your life without prescribing beliefs to others or violating workplace boundaries.- Servant Leadership as a Bridge: Using the model of Jesus to navigate power distances between bosses and employees.- Redefining Success: Shifting your focus from "closing the deal" to being faithful in every gospel conversation.- Practical Steps: Andrew outlines 8 diagnostic questions to calibrate your heart toward an outward-focused worldview.📖 About Andrew SteyerAndrew Steier is a Pastor and leader dedicated to mobilizing believers to live on mission. Through his ministry, Always Going, he equips everyday Christians to move past the guilt of "not doing enough" and into the joy of a faith that naturally overflows into the lives of others.🔗 Resources Mentioned:Free 5-Day Online Course: Overflow Evangelism Get the Book: Always Going: The Joyful Overflow of Everyday Evangelism is available at AlwaysGoing.org or on Amazon.Support the Ministry: Help mobilize 1 million believers by donating at AlwaysGoing.org/donate.Subscribe and hit the bell icon to stay updated with our latest content!Connect with Us:Website: https://thirdpathinitiative.comApple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-business-as-mission-podcast-with-mike-baer/id1551867793Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0Gp5SOOHFggJ67vPA5qxkDLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikebaerFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/thirdpathinitiativeInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thirdpathinitiativeAbout Third Path InitiativeThird Path Initiative exists to equip believers to build sustainable, missional businesses that bring the gospel to the least reached. Through training, storytelling, and practical tools, we mobilize and support Business as Mission practitioners around the world. Thank you for being part of the mission!Don't forget to pick up a copy of Mike Baer's books! Check the link below! ➡️ https://books.by/mike-baer#BusinessAsMission #BAM #MarketplaceCalling
Is it possible to integrate a high-level business career with a deep commitment to the Great Commission? In this episode, Mike Baer sits down with Ben, a tech professional and entrepreneur who spent 17 years in Asia building businesses that do more than just turn a profit. From computer programming for the UK government to manufacturing leather goods and developing real estate to fight human trafficking, Ben’s journey proves that business is one of the most powerful tools for global transformation. Discover how the next generation (Gen Z and Gen Alpha) can bypass the "sacred-secular" divide and find a third path where work and worship become one.Subscribe and hit the bell icon to stay updated with our latest content!Connect with Us:Website: https://thirdpathinitiative.comApple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-business-as-mission-podcast-with-mike-baer/id1551867793Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0Gp5SOOHFggJ67vPA5qxkDLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikebaerFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/thirdpathinitiativeInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thirdpathinitiativeAbout Third Path InitiativeThird Path Initiative exists to equip believers to build sustainable, missional businesses that bring the gospel to the least reached. Through training, storytelling, and practical tools, we mobilize and support Business as Mission practitioners around the world. Thank you for being part of the mission!Don't forget to pick up a copy of Mike Baer's books! Check the link below! ➡️ https://books.by/mike-baer
The future of the Business as Mission (BAM) movement rests on a powerful partnership: Expats as catalysts and Nationals as leaders. Join Mike Baer as he explores the vital, yet often misunderstood, roles of both in making disciples in the marketplace, expanding the kingdom, and achieving exponential growth.
Mike argues that while expats are necessary pioneers to take the gospel where Christ is not named, their role is limited; it is the starting point, not the end. The long-term transformation of society and the exponential growth of the church will ultimately happen through nationals. They possess distinct advantages like language, cultural understanding, lower operational costs, and established relationships.
Learn why we need to move from an unconscious bias toward "going" to a conscious effort of "handing over the reins" and equipping, mobilizing, and funding national BAM leaders for maximum global impact.
Connect with Us:Website: https://thirdpathinitiative.comApple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-business-as-mission-podcast-with-mike-baer/id1551867793Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0Gp5SOOHFggJ67vPA5qxkDLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikebaerFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/thirdpathinitiativeInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thirdpathinitiativeAbout Third Path InitiativeThird Path Initiative exists to equip believers to build sustainable, missional businesses that bring the gospel to the least reached. Through training, storytelling, and practical tools, we mobilize and support Business as Mission practitioners around the world. Thank you for being part of the mission!Don't forget to pick up a copy of Mike Baer's books! Check the link below! ➡️ https://books.by/mike-baer
Can a Christian couple run a thriving, multi-million dollar business while keeping their marriage strong and fueling a global mission? Mike sits down with Grant and Erin Stahla of STA Services, who specialize in high-end restroom and shower trailers. They dive into their journey of building an asset-heavy business with a "lifestyle business" goal—working together and pursuing "extreme profitability" not for personal gain, but to strategically impact the world.
Discover how this Nebraska-based couple grew their business from $30k to $2 million in business , why they decided to work side-by-side (and how they make it work!) and how their "business agnostic" approach led to a powerful partnership with Love Justice NGO, fighting human trafficking. Learn how they operationalize their faith, making every employee feel connected to the mission of intercepting those in trafficking, with nearly 750 people impacted so far. This is a masterclass in Kingdom business, marriage, and intentional impact.
Connect with Grant & Erin Stahla::
STA Services: stahla.com
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@StahlaServices
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Don't forget to pick up a copy of Mike Baer's books! Check the link below! ➡️ https://books.by/mike-baer
Don't sacrifice your marriage for your business! Robert and Kaylee Fukui, the Married Entrepreneurs, share their powerful story—from the brink of burnout and personal tragedy to creating a thriving life and business in Tandem. Learn their simple, game-changing strategies, including setting boundaries, maximizing time, and the surprisingly hard step of praying together daily.
This episode is a must-listen for founders, pastors, and anyone married to an entrepreneur.
Grab Robert and Kaylee's free download, "Five Daily Habits to Thrive in Tandem," and check out their book, Tandem, at marriedentrepreneur.co/bam!
Bridging the gap between faith and career: Carrie Hayashida, CEO of Vision Resourcing Group and leader of Team 672, shares her journey from single mom to mobilizing the next generation for Business as Mission (BAM). Discover how her ministry is helping students find their "Godly design" and connect with kingdom-minded business opportunities, preventing them from being "lost for 20 years." Learn about the vision of Team 672—a concierge service connecting young adults to BAM—and the crucial need for mentorship and resources in the current educational system.
Interested in finding your calling or getting involved with the Business as Mission movement?
Visit visionresourcinggroup.com or connect with us on social media @team672 to learn more!
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carriehayashida/
Founders Albert and Mari Olivera share the incredible story of Escola Grace, a large, for-profit Christian school in Curitiba, Brazil, born from a huge, God-given vision that started as a small dream. They reveal the struggles of starting with no expertise or money and the breakthrough moments of faith, including Mari's prophetic encouragement to Albert during a time of great anxiety. Their journey highlights the power of unified Christian marriage, the advantages of a business model for agility, and a shared mission to bring God's powerful work to education and community outreach.
Learn more about Escola Grace:
Linked: https://www.linkedin.com/company/escolagrace
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/albert_filho/
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Join us as we talk to Kurt Avery, founder of Sawyer Products, about building a successful, state-of-the-art business committed to "Business as Mission." Discover how their revolutionary water filters and insect repellents have become tools for global change.
What you'll learn:
Life-Changing Technology: How Sawyer's compact water filters, which can last 10-20 years, are ending waterborne diseases and leading to medical clinics closing in places like Nairobi slums.
Mission-Driven Profit: Kurt shares his principle of running a highly profitable business and giving away more than 90% of the net profit to charitable work.
The Business Strategy: Get key insights into Kurt’s philosophy, including the game-changing concept of "Creative Destruction"—learning to predict market changes 3-5 years ahead.
Mass Distribution Ready: Hear about Sawyer's newest products and technology, including QR codes and AI training, ready to reach 30 million people annually.
Key Take-Way:
Learn how to build a great company that pursues profit ethically while simultaneously fulfilling a global mission "to the glory of God"
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In this incredibly powerful episode of the Business As Mission Podcast, host Mike Baer sits down with two incredible partners: Simon, a local entrepreneur in Southeast Asia, and Mark, an investor from Australia. They share the inspiring story of how a single high-value crop—Sacha Inchi—combined with a faith-filled vision and strategic partnership, is fundamentally changing the lives of 1,500+ farming families.
Learn how Simon went from starting with zero resources to building a sustainable agribusiness that provides stable income for hard-working villagers, earns the trust of the local government, and serves as a platform to spread hope through community development projects like children's homes and women's programs.
This conversation highlights the vital role of Agribusiness as Mission (BAM), focusing on:
Overcoming the challenge of cashflow management and finding stable markets.
The importance of relational partnerships over quick financing.
Breaking the "colonial model" by building a local value chain and processing high-value products like Sacha Inchi milk.
How to find and nurture local, godly entrepreneurs ("Simons") ready for growth.
Hear the full story of integrity, partnership, and impact that is a beautiful blueprint for Business as Mission success worldwide!
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Join Mike Baer for a high-energy conversation with Herbert Severin, the new CEO of Marketplace and Development Enterprises (MDE), a pioneering professional services firm supporting the global Business as a Mission (BAM) movement. Herbert shares his powerful personal story of transitioning from traditional church ministry to the marketplace, realizing his true calling to be a minister in the business world.
Discover MDE's critical role in the BAM ecosystem, providing a "soup-to-nuts" support system for entrepreneurs and Disciple Making Employees (DMEs) in least-reached countries. Herbert explains MDE's three tiers of volunteer support—Bam Team Managers, Faculty Advisors, and Missional Mentors—who provide essential business, technical, and spiritual accountability to combat the high attrition rates and isolation faced by practitioners in the field.
Herbert lays out an exciting vision for the future, including creating scalable "BAM in a box" models and acquiring businesses to rapidly increase opportunities for called leaders. This episode is a vital call to action for anyone who senses a divine invitation to use their business skills for the Kingdom and a profound reminder that you don't have to navigate the entrepreneurial journey alone.
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Connect with Herbert:
Email: info@buildmde.com
Website: https://buildmde.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/buildmde
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/marketplace-and-development-enterprises
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/buildmde/
Diana Fritz shares her powerful journey of turning a rare cancer diagnosis and the loss of an eye into a unique opportunity to inspire and serve others. In this deeply moving and candid conversation, she discusses her book, Uniquely Imperfect, Uniquely Qualified, and reveals the mindset and faith that allowed her to refuse to let a physical challenge define her identity. Learn about her work as an executive coach and consultant, focusing on building strong, authentic company cultures and leading with a genuine belief in people.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone facing adversity, seeking to lead with authentic vulnerability, or looking for ways to cultivate a purpose-driven life and culture—in business and beyond. Diana’s story is a powerful reminder that we have the freedom to choose how we respond to life's toughest challenges.
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Connect with Diana Fritz:
Website: www.grituiuq.com
Email: diana@grituiuq.com
In this episode, Mike Baer sits down with Aubrey Tozer, a key leader of the Business as Mission (BAM) movement in Canada. Aubrey, a former corporate executive, shares his remarkable journey from a faith-in-work professional to a passionate advocate for BAM. He recounts how an exploratory trip to Africa ignited a vision for using business for kingdom purposes, leading him to help found BAM Canada and connect with global movements.
Aubrey and Mike discuss the incredible growth of BAM, emphasizing that it's a worldwide movement, not just a Western one. They share powerful lessons from their recent trip to Cameroon, highlighting how local leaders, academics, and even government officials are embracing business as a tool for national and spiritual transformation.
This conversation is a powerful encouragement for anyone who feels called to engage in missions but isn't sure where to start. Aubrey's core advice is to simply "go and see," trusting that God will use your unique business background and experiences to show you where He is already at work.
Connect with Mike: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/third-path-initiative/posts/?feedView=all Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thirdpathinitiative Website: https://thirdpathinitiative.com/
Connect with Aubrey: Website: businessasmisison.ca
In this special episode, Mike Baer sits down with Kingsly Jini, a marketplace leader and entrepreneur from Cameroon. Kingsly shares his powerful journey, from a college student struggling with faith to becoming a founding member of the Business as a Mission (BAM) movement in Cameroon and a key leader in CBMC Africa.
Kingsly discusses his journey of discipleship, emphasizing that it's a long-term relationship, not a program. He shares a powerful, and at times messy, testimony of how God taught him to surrender everything, including his business, during the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic. He explains how this experience, rooted in the concept of Ubuntu ("I am because we are"), has fueled his mission to empower a new generation of entrepreneurs to live out their faith.
This conversation is a must-listen for any Christian in business who feels overwhelmed or disconnected from their faith at work. Kingsly’s story is a profound reminder that our work is a high and holy calling—a pulpit from which we can impact our communities and change our nation for Christ.
This Podcast was produced by ND-Know Solutions. For inquiries, please contact jhindino@nd-knows.com.
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In this special episode, Mike Baer sits down with Joel Schuler, a leader at the Anglican Missionary Society (NAMS) and a dear friend he's only ever met online. Joel, a former tech professional turned ministry leader, shares his unique journey and the profound importance of discipleship in the business world.
Joel makes a compelling case for a different understanding of discipleship—one that is intentional, biblical, relational, and replicable. He argues that business is the perfect environment for this, as it provides a natural context for day-to-day interactions and shared life. Joel challenges the common misconception that discipleship is reserved for pastors or that it's a formal curriculum. Instead, he presents a simple yet powerful model based on the life of Jesus, emphasizing the importance of shared meals and consistent time together.
This conversation is a must-listen for anyone in the business as mission space, offering practical encouragement to stop waiting for the "perfect moment" and start living as a disciple maker right where you are.
This episode is produced by ND-Know Solutions. For inquiries, please contact jhindino@nd-knows.com
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Can real estate really be a mission tool?
Join Mike Baer and a seasoned real estate investor-turned-entrepreneur as he shares the remarkable story of leaving behind a successful career and a hundred short-term trips to build a hospitality business as mission.
You’ll discover:
Don’t miss this inspiring story of courage, calling, and kingdom impact.
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Can a construction company in Pakistan really make a kingdom impact?
Join Mike Baer and Ameet Gabrial, CEO of ZOR Engineers, one of the oldest Business as Mission (BAM) companies in the world, for a powerful conversation about faith, integrity, and perseverance.
You’ll discover:
Don’t miss this inspiring episode on building a business that lasts and glorifies God.
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Explore Mike Baer’s Books: books.by/mike-baer
Learn more about Business as Mission and access free and premium resources at thirdpathinitiative.com.
You can also watch more conversations and teaching on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@BAMwithMikeBaer.
Can patents really reflect God’s design for human flourishing?
Join Mike Baer and Jim Edwards, founder of Elite Strategic Services and author of To Invent Is Divine, for a fascinating conversation on the biblical roots of creativity, ownership, and innovation.
You’ll discover:
Don’t miss this powerful episode showing how faith, law, and innovation intersect to build a world where people and communities thrive.
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Explore Mike Baer’s Books: books.by/mike-baer
Learn more about Business as Mission and access free and premium resources at thirdpathinitiative.com.
You can also watch more conversations and teaching on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@BAMwithMikeBaer.
Can agriculture really transform communities?
Join Mike Baer and Ron, a third-generation farmer turned entrepreneur, for a powerful conversation on using farming to bring hope and stability to isolated villages.
You’ll discover:
Why agriculture is key to building community and addressing rural poverty.
How Ron is creating an economic solution to keep families together.
The importance of restoring dignity and honor through merit-based employment and fair practices.
How consistent integrity and a focus on relationships are breaking down generations of prejudice. Don’t miss this testimony of how business can be a force for good.
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Website: thirdpathinitiative.com
Explore Mike Baer’s Books: books.by/mike-baer
Learn more about Business as Mission and access free and premium resources at thirdpathinitiative.com
You can also watch more conversations and teaching on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@BAMwithMikeBaer
Join us as we talk with Steve Cleary, founder of Revelation Media, about a new era of "media as mission." From his journey making the film,.
The Pilgrim's Progress, to his current project, I Bible, Steve shares how he's leveraging technology to reach a world of oral learners. We explore the challenge of a "print world" mindset and the power of animation to bring the biblical narrative to life in places where traditional ministry cannot go.
Connect with Steve:YouTube: @RevelationMediaGlobal Website: https://www.i.bible/
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Website: thirdpathinitiative.com
Explore Mike Baer’s Books: books.by/mike-baer
Learn more about Business as Mission and access free and premium resources at thirdpathinitiative.com.
You can also watch more conversations and teaching on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/@BAMwithMikeBaer.