Interview Date: November 9th, 2025
Episode Summary:
In this episode, Menina sits down with Rhonda Kaufman Malkin to unpack how a competition kid from Irvine turned a packed schedule of AP classes, UCLA coursework, the UCLA Dance Team, and three seasons as an LA Laker Girl into a long-term professional career. Rhonda shares how she balanced college with high-level pro work, why she switched from a dance major to sociology, and how booking five jobs in a row her senior year convinced her to go “all in” on dance after graduation.
She walks listeners through her journey to Radio City—getting cut from her first Rockette audition, training herself between Disney shows, then booking the tour just before 9/11 and spending 12 seasons with the Rockettes (nine in NYC), seven of those as a swing, memorizing 36 tracks.
Now the founder of Fusion Exercise, Rhonda has coached 75 dancers into the Rockettes and trains performers for Broadway, NFL/NBA teams, and precision work worldwide. She breaks down what makes precision dance different (counting, spacing grids, eye-high kicks, stamina), how the current three-day Rockette audition works, and why cross-training, professionalism, and genuine love of dance are non-negotiable.
Shownotes:
(8:52) Menina’s intro: Rhonda’s journey from UCLA to Rockettes.
(14:03) Early life: ballet beginnings, competition team roots.
(17:07) Balancing UCLA Dance Team and Laker Girls.
(21:55) First agent wins; persistence through audition setbacks.
(26:18) Rejection lessons: casting “type” and mindset shifts.
(32:07) LA highlights: commercials, Academy Awards with Robin Williams.
(37:44) Booking Rockettes post-9/11; touring and NYC seasons.
(47:12) Precision dance breakdown: spacing, counting, eye-high kicks.
(53:36) Fusion Exercise coaching and modern Rockette audition process
Biography:
Rhonda Kaufman Malkin is a 1996 honors graduate of Woodbridge High School in Irvine, CA. Rhonda was the first student from WHS to "crack Disney" and win the Outstanding Dancer Award for the Disneyland Creativity Challenge, a competition open to Orange County performing arts students. Her 13 years of dance training lead to a 17-year professional dance career in Los Angeles and New York City. While attending UCLA as a Sociology major, Rhonda performed as a Los Angeles Laker Girl for 3 years and received a championship ring for the 2000 inaugural season at Staples Center.
After graduating UCLA in 2000, she attended seminary at Neve Yerushalayim and started her journey into Orthodox Jewish life. She continued dancing professionally, teaching dance, and choreography on the side while being a Radio City Music Hall Rockette for 12 years performing in multiple cities across America as well as Radio City Music Hall in the “Christmas Spectacular.” Rhonda was a Rockette Swing (memorizing all 36 Rockette dance tracks) for 7 of those years.
Rhonda developed her famous FUSION EXERCISE fitness method and has trained celebrities including Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Karlie Kloss and others.
Rhonda’s choreography talents lead her to choreographing for numerous live stage and livestream productions in NYC for Jewish artists Bracha Jaffe and Devorah Schwartz. She was Head Choreographer for Camp Mayor for 8 years, recently taught at the prestigious FAME school—La Guardia High School of the Arts, and Manhattan High School in Manhattan as Head Choreographer and Physical Education Department instructor.
She recently choreographed for the Rockette Alumnae Association in “Talent is Timeless” performing off-Broadway at the United Palace Theater in NYC.
As a Professional Dance Coach, she is honored to mention that 75 of her students have become Radio City Rockettes and was recently featured on NY’s PIX11 News. This is Rhonda’s 32nd year as a dance educator. She is a wife and mom to 3 kids.
Connect on Social Media:
TikTok:
@fusion_exercise
Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/fusion_exercise/
Interview Date: October 26th, 2025
Episode Summary:
In this uplifting episode, UK-based choreographer, educator, and West End performer Ryan Jenkins shares his extraordinary journey from a late-starting dancer at 14 to performing in some of London’s most iconic productions. Known for his work on Matthew Bourne’s Swan Lake, Wicked, Cabaret, Kismet, Phantom of the Opera, So You Think You Can Dance, and Dance Moms UK, Ryan reflects on how perseverance, professionalism, and positivity turned early setbacks into defining milestones.Ryan opens up about the rollercoaster moments that shaped his career—from working retail in London to suddenly joining the original West End cast of Wicked within days, learning the entire show in three days flat.
He also shares behind-the-scenes stories from the ballet world, musical theatre, and TV, offering practical insights into casting, mindset, and time management. As a teacher and mentor, Ryan now directs the Elite Associates Program with the Acosta Dance Foundation, founded by ballet star Carlos Acosta, where he helps the next generation of artists reach their full potential.Whether you’re a dancer chasing your first contract or a professional redefining your career path, this conversation is packed with motivation, humor, and heart.
Ryan’s message is clear: stay kind, stay ready, and never stop believing in your own timing—because the job meant for you won’t pass you by.
Shownotes:
(0:00) – Welcome & introduction to Ryan Jenkins and his West End legacy
(7:34) – Joining the original Wicked cast with Idina Menzel
(14:37) – Late start in dance at 14 and training at Bird College
(16:56) – Making West End debut in Swan Lake with Matthew Bourne
(19:22) – From “spritzing perfume” to Wicked in one week
(20:30) – Balancing Cabaret, Kismet & Wicked simultaneously
(22:21) – Competing on So You Think You Can Dance & Got to Dance
(25:17) – Transitioning to choreography and Dance Moms UK
(26:19) – Launching Acosta Dance Foundation’s Elite Associate Program
(28:44) – Biggest lessons: likability, professionalism, and mindset
Biography:
Ryan has worked with the biggest creatives in the world including; Matthew Bourne, Arlene Philips, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Joel Schumacher, Peter Darling and Ashley Wallen. He has also shared the stage with stars such as; Kerry Ellis, Idina Menzal, Adam Cooper, Miriam Margolyes, and Adam Garcia. 2025 Ryan worked for Simon Cowell as casting specialist for Britain’ s got talent.
The only teacher in the world to have taught the dancers from the hit US T.V show Dance Moms for Abby Lee Miller and as choreographer for UK TV version Dance Mums with Jennifer Ellison. Most notably known for appearing as a finalist in the top 20 in series 2, So You Think You Can Dance and Got to Dance, before this he had a flourishing career in London’s West End but not before gaining his first job at 19 in Matthew Bourne’s Swan Lake. Ryan was appointed as Dance Captain for Grease The Musical UK and European Tour, choreographed by Arlene Philips. Original London cast of Wicked, ENO (English National Opera)- Kismet , London Coliseum. Cabaret' musical Lyric theatre, by Javier de Fructos.
Featured dancer - Andrew Lloyd Webber’s Phantom of the Opera the movie, directed by Joel Schumacher and choreographed by Peter Darling.Most recently started a new dance programme with Acosta dance foundation founded by Ballet star Carlos Acosta called Elite Associates.
In 2025 he choreographed the music video 'The blossom and the mountain' which has been nominated all over the world in film festivals and won awards.
Connect on Social Media:
Website: https://www.ryanjenkins.co.uk
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/realryanjenkins/
Interview Date: October 19th, 2025
Episode Summary:
In this empowering episode, Dana Wilson—dancer, choreographer, creative director, and podcast host—joins The Business of Dance Podcast to share an inside look at her two-decade career working alongside icons like Justin Timberlake, Marty Kudelka, Baz Luhrmann, and Chris Scott. From her early years at the Michelle Latimer Dance Academy to performing on three world tours and serving on the Choreographers Guild, Dana reflects on what it takes to sustain longevity in entertainment while staying grounded in self-awareness, mindset, and creative purpose.
She opens up about her first big break assisting Marty Kudelka and performing on Justin Timberlake’s FutureSex/LoveShow, her transition into choreography, acting, and voiceover work (Pinocchio, Elvis, In the Heights, La La Land), and the creation of her Words That Move Me podcast and coaching community. Dana also dives into how the dance industry has evolved—from agency systems to AI and the digital creator era—sharing invaluable advice on processing rejection, developing emotional resilience, and “turning the grave into a garden.”
With wisdom, humor, and refreshing honesty, Dana reminds dancers that success is nonlinear, mentorship is invaluable, and feeling your feelings is a superpower.
Shownotes:
(0:00) – Opening chat: motherhood, dogs, and pre-interview setup
(4:00) – Reviewing Dana’s career highlights and credits
(8:45) – Starting the session: Justin Timberlake music intro
(12:00) – Dana’s early dance training, family background, and move to LA
(17:00) – Booking her first tour with Justin Timberlake and working with Marty Kudelka
(22:00) – 20 years of collaboration with Justin: tours, SNL, and Super Bowl
(27:00) – Creating Words That Move Me podcast + turning rejection into education
(33:00) – The power of coaching, mindset, and mental health for artists
(42:00) – The Choreographers Guild, AI, and how the dance industry is evolving
(54:00) – Q&A: Finding mentors, dealing with rejection, and touring lessons
Biography:
"People who call Dana Wilson a “Joy Machine” are not wrong. Her work is a joy to behold and she is a joy to work with.Dana Wilson is a choreographer, performer, movement coach, educator, Apple Top 100 Performing Arts Podcast host, and activist who understands how to move real people.
Her work is undeniably bright, refined and classic, yet bizarre with a healthy dose of happy. She works at the highest level across mediums from TV/ Film and Commercials to Tours/ Music Videos, and even Stop Motion Animation/ Motion Capture. From Apple to Amazon, Justin Timberlake to Paula Abdul, Elvis to Pinocchio, her impact is singular and she carves paths for others to shine as well.
Connect on Social Media:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danadaners/
Website: thedanawilson.com
Interview Date: October 12th, 2025
Episode Summary:
In this inspiring episode, international choreographer, performer, and TV judge MELCHARLOT shares her powerful journey from Montreal to the global stage. Known for her work with Lizzo, Beyoncé, Cardi B, and her Broadway debut in Holler If You Hear Me, MEL opens up about the challenges, sacrifices, and growth that shaped her as both an artist and mother.She reveals her evolution from competitive dancer to world tour performer, her experiences assisting industry legends like Tanisha Scott, and the life-changing opportunities that led to her judging roles on Révolution and Danse avec les Stars.
MEL’s story blends passion with purpose as she discusses her commitment to mentorship, cultural representation, and balancing career with family.Listeners will take away invaluable insights on confidence, leadership, artistic identity, and creative process—from managing time and mental health to trusting your path even when it doesn’t go as planned. Whether you’re a student, professional, or aspiring choreographer, this episode is a masterclass in resilience, authenticity, and the business of dance.
Shownotes:(
0:00) – Welcome & intro to MELCHARLOT and her global career
(6:54) – From Montreal roots to working with Beyoncé & Lizzo
(13:21) – Landing Broadway’s Holler If You Hear Me
(22:45) – Becoming a judge on Révolution & Danse avec les Stars
(41:31) – Performing on the Lizzo World Tour & family support
(49:00) – Lessons on leadership, humility, and teamwork in dance
(53:40) – Rejection, perseverance, and full-circle So You Think You Can Dance moment
(58:30) – Balancing motherhood, marriage, and a dance career
(1:06:26) – Creative process: how MEL builds choreography from emotion
(1:53:12) – Closing inspiration: mentorship, gratitude & never stop being a student
Biography:
Mel Charlot is a respected choreographer, creative director, and celebrated television judge on Révolution (Canada’s #1 dance show) and Danse avec les Stars (Dancing with the Stars in France). Born and raised in Montreal, Canada in a Haitian household filled with music, she discovered her passion for movement at a young age—a passion that has carried her across stages and screens worldwide.Her career has spanned over two decades, evolving from competitive dancer to professional performer, Broadway artist, and now a sought-after choreographer and visionary in the entertainment industry between Canada, US and Europe.
Charlot has worked with global icons such as Lizzo, Chris Brown, Beyoncé, P. Diddy, Kanye West, Faith Evans, Omarion, and many others. She has also been featured in major campaigns with Jordan/Nike, L’Oréal, and Makeup Forever, and has choreographed on hit television productions including So You Think You Can Dance, Lip Sync Battle,The Masked Singer and more…A World Choreography Award and UKMVA nominee, Mel Charlot continues to push creative boundaries while mentoring the next generation of dancers and choreographers.
She brings a unique blend of artistry, professionalism, and authenticity to every project—whether on stage, on screen, or in the studio.Beyond her career, Mel is a proud wife and mother whose resilience and passion inspire others to live and move with purpose, power, and grace.
Connect on Social Media:
Website :Www.melcharlot.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/melcharlot/
Interview Date: October 5th, 2025
Episode Summary:
In this powerful and nostalgic episode, Emmy-nominated choreographer and MTV Award winner Tina Landon takes us behind the scenes of her legendary career shaping the choreography that defined an era of pop culture. From her early days as a Laker Girl under Paula Abdul to becoming the creative force behind Janet Jackson’s “If”, “The Velvet Rope Tour,” and Ricky Martin’s “Livin’ La Vida Loca,” Tina shares the artistry, discipline, and vision that made her one of the most sought-after choreographers in the world.
Tina opens up about her journey transitioning from dancer to choreographer, how she built trust with industry icons, and what it takes to bring stories to life through movement. She discusses the evolution of dance over the decades—from the golden age of music videos to the rise of social media—and how professionalism, consistency, and genuine artistry still remain the keys to success.
This episode is perfect for anyone striving to understand the bridge between commercial artistry and lasting impact — a true masterclass in dance history and creative leadership.
Shownotes:
(0:00) – Welcome & introduction to Tina Landon and her legendary career
(3:15) – Tina’s start as a dancer & transition from Laker Girl to choreographer
(7:40) – Founding her creative style: working with Janet Jackson & early MTV era
(12:25) – Behind “If” & “The Velvet Rope Tour” – storytelling through choreography
(22:10) – What makes a dancer stand out in auditions and rehearsals
(35:05) – How the dance industry evolved from 90s tours to today’s viral world
(50:12) – Professionalism, mindset, and respect in the rehearsal room
(1:02:30) – The importance of longevity & self-care for working dancers
(1:13:05) – Tina’s message: know your history, learn from the greats
(1:16:16) – Gala of the Stars — Tina’s legacy & inspiration for the next generation
Biography:
Tina Landon is a multi award winning and Emmy nominated creative director/choreographer. She is best known for her sensual yet strong movement that dominated the landscape of dance in music videos and live tours since the mid 90’s. Some of her most memorable and signature moves can be seen on artists like Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Rihanna, Jennifer Lopez, Christina Aguilera, Ricky Martin, Britney Spears and Shakira to name a few.
Tina’s love and passion for dance began as early as she can remember when her mother of Mexican-American heritage and lover of dance and music, made sure her children would fare better by mandating dance lessons in their household. Falling in love with dance and yearning for more, Tina left her home in Lancaster, California to pursue her dreams in Hollywood. Auditioning for various dance productions around town, she landed a gig as a Laker Girl. She was well on her way, yet what could be considered a “big break” would be just the beginning when she was booked as a principal dancer for Michael Jackson’s “Smooth Criminal” music video.
Tina’s hard work and commitment eventually landed her many dance roles in various music videos including her first spot as a touring dancer on Janet Jackson’s Rhythm Nation Tour. She eventually went on to choreograph Janet’s next two world tours “Janet” and “The Velvet Rope” which earned her an Emmy nomination for the HBO special. She has also directed and choreographed national and world tours for many other artists. Tina is a 9-time MTV Choreography Award nominee and a 2 time MTV Award recipient for Michael and Janet Jackson’s “Scream” and for Ricky Martin’s “Livin La Vida Loca’.
Her latest passion is giving back and helping young dancers navigate careers in the music industry by sharing and coaching them through her extensive experience and knowledge.
Connect on Social Media:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamtinalandon/
Interview Date: September 28th, 2025
Episode Summary:
Strength & conditioning coach and dance athleticism specialist Karl Flores joins the Business of Dance for a science-meets-studio deep dive. Karl traces his path from competitive dancer to Equinox trainer to founder of Movement Society in Los Angeles, explaining how structured training, recovery, and style-specific programming extend dancers’ careers. He unpacks the “artist-athlete” mindset, common conditioning mistakes, injury-prevention fundamentals, and a practical training pyramid (aerobic base → strength → power). In Q&A, Karl tackles motivation, off-season vs. in-season “microdosing,” hypermobility strategies, rehab priorities, and genre needs—from ballet posture to breakers’ shoulder stability—closing with how dancers can work with him online.
Shownotes:
(0:00) – Welcome & intro to Coach Karl Flores and his expertise
(5:49) – Karl’s journey from collegiate dancer to strength coach
(9:05) – “Artist-Athlete” mindset: merging creativity and physicality
(11:55) – Common dancer mistake: not strength training consistently
(13:58) – Injury prevention through structured programs and recovery
(15:36) – Ballet vs. breaking: training by style and muscle focus
(17:30) – The three-tier pyramid: endurance, strength, power
(20:23) – Mindset, confidence, and aligning body with intention
(23:13) – Longevity: how training extends dance careers
(34:12) – Off-season vs. in-season “microdosing” workout strategy
Biography:
Karl Flores is a Los Angeles–based strength and conditioning coach with over 10 years of experience, specializing in bridging the gap between athletic performance and dance. With a background in competitive dance, kinesiology, and exercise science, Karl is passionate about helping others unlock their fullest potential and achieve the best version of themselves through movement.
Over the course of his career, Karl has worked with professional dancers, world tour performers, freestyle battle champions, and Grammy Award–winning music artists. His expertise spans injury prevention, musculoskeletal rehab, functional training, and optimizing both athletic and dance performance.
Training Specialties:
Injury Prevention
Musculoskeletal Rehab
Functional Training
Athletic & Dance Performance
Strength & Conditioning
Education & Certifications:
B.S. in Kinesiology & Exercise Science (Physiology Minor)
Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist (CSCS)
DBC Level 1
Functional Movement Screen Level 1
Kettlebell Athletics
Triggerpoint Therapy
ViPR
Precision Nutrition Level 1 (Pn1)
Progressive Bodyweight Training
Dynamic Sports Performance Certified Coach
Kettlebell Coach University L1
Functional Range Conditioning (FRCms)
Functional Range Assessment (FRA)
Karl’s mission is simple: to empower artist-athletes with the tools, science, and confidence to perform at their highest level, while building longevity in their craft.
Connect on Social Media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karl.flrs/
Interview Date: September 14th, 2025
Episode Summary:In this inspiring conversation, Carol Borjas Cantrell shares her remarkable evolution from a Venezuelan rhythmic gymnast to touring the world as a professional dancer and raising the next generation of talent, including her daughter Kylie Cantrell (Disney’s Descendants: The Rise of Red).Carol walks listeners through her early ballet training, her scholarship to Tremaine in Los Angeles, and how she built a 30-year career dancing for icons such as Paul McCartney, Lou Bega, and Brian McKnight.
She opens up about adapting to the U.S. industry, navigating agencies and visas, and the lessons that have shaped both her and her daughter’s artistic paths.Throughout the episode, Carol offers practical insight on auditions, tour life, staying “camera-ready,” and balancing motherhood with a professional career. Her message to dancers is simple but powerful — prepare relentlessly, stay grounded, and do the brave thing, even when the path ahead feels uncertain.This episode is perfect for dancers, parents of young performers, and aspiring pros who want an inside look at what it takes to sustain longevity in the ever-changing dance world.
Shownotes:
(0:00) – Welcome & intro to Carol Borjas Cantrell’s journey
(3:44) – Tour credits with Paul McCartney, Brian McKnight & Lou Bega
(10:51) – Early training in Venezuela & rhythmic gymnastics foundation
(13:56) – Tremaine scholarship & moving to L.A. at 17
(16:50) – Audition evolution: from in-person to self-tapes
(21:37) – Visa journey & path to U.S. citizenship
(29:32) – Tour highlights & behind-the-scenes moments
(35:18) – Advice for Kylie on tour life & balance
(47:42) – Teaching resilience & confidence to young performers
(1:26:19) – Closing words: live your passion & stay camera-ready
Biography:
This Venezuelan born dancer/choreographer has over 20 years experience. She began with ballet and contemporary dance. Carol also trained in Rhythmic gymnastics for 12 years receiving numerous honors… including, five consecutive years, Venezuela’s “Best Gymnast”.
Once she moved to Los Angeles she began working in the industry with artists like, Paul McCartney, (World tour), Country icons Brookes and Dunn, Hip Hop legends: Will Smith, P Diddy, Snoop Dogg, LL Cool J. Brian Mc Night etc.
She has appeared in movies like Austin Powers, Cinderella Story & more. She hosted an Entertainment Television show called “Hablemos De Cine” on Azteca America, interviewing both Spanish and American celebrities. She has done several national TV commercials including Dodge Durango with Will Ferrel, Gain Detergent, AT&T, Pepsi, Sprite and many more. In television she has danced on MTV Movie Awards, Guys Choice awards, Image Awards etc. She appeared on television series like Alias, American Idol to name a few. For the past seven years Carol is the choreographer of a Spanish TV network ( Estrella TV) Choreographing, and appearing and some of the shows including the Spanish version of Dancing with the Stars, and Los Premios de la Radio a la musical regional Mexicana.Carol also had a special appearance, on the ABC series,"America's Got Talent.”
Carol has appeared on several Warner Brothers productions for the famous series “Gilmore Girls” also Netflix shows “Fuller House”, “Jane the Virgin” and Show Time series “Penny Dreadful” and she recently also appeared on the new prequel “Dexter”.
Connect on Social Media:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caroljborjas?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ%3D%3D&utm_source=qr
Interview Date: August 24th, 2025
Episode Summary:
In this captivating conversation, Juliet Prowse, author of Born to Dance, joins The Business of Dance Podcast to share the untold story of her legendary aunt, the late Juliet Prowse — a trailblazing British-South African dancer and actress who conquered Hollywood, Las Vegas, and Broadway.
From performing alongside Frank Sinatra and Elvis Presley in Can-Can and G.I. Blues to headlining her own million-dollar Vegas residency, Big Juliet redefined what it meant to be a female entertainer in a male-dominated era. Little Juliet takes listeners behind the scenes of her research journey — discovering a red suitcase of letters, interviewing former collaborators, and piecing together the life of a woman who never waited for permission to shine.
The discussion unpacks the discipline, athleticism, and business savvy that made Juliet Prowse one of the highest-paid performers of the 1970s, plus stories of her engagements to Sinatra, her friendship with Elvis, and her unstoppable work ethic that kept her dancing until her final days.
This episode is perfect for dancers, musical-theatre artists, and history-minded creatives who want to learn from one of the greats — and be reminded that success is built on grit, artistry, and courage to create your own opportunities.
Shownotes:
(0:00) – Welcome & introduction to Juliet Prowse interview
(3:00) – Little Juliet shares the story behind her famous name
(13:18) – Discovering a red suitcase & inspiration to write Born to Dance
(16:00) – Big Juliet’s early Hollywood years & Vegas debut
(21:03) – Athleticism, costuming, and Bob Mackie’s extravagant designs
(25:39) – Breaking barriers: creating her own Las Vegas show
(31:22) – The million-dollar Desert Inn contract & Vegas legacy
(36:29) – Life, love & rumors — Sinatra, Elvis, and beyond
(41:23) – Performing through illness & leaving a lasting impact
(1:03:00) – Lessons for today’s dancers: hard work, creativity, & legacy
Biography:
Juliet Prowse never intended on becoming an author, but when she spotted a little red suitcase in her parents’ attic, filled to the brim with articles about her famous aunt, the dancer/entertainer Juliet Prowse, she felt she just had to tell this story.
As a seasoned communications professional, Juliet was used to writing, but to ensure the authenticity of her first book, Juliet waded through over 1 000 newspaper articles and letters, largely written by her dancing aunt to her mother (the author's grandmother), and spoke to over 20 people who had performed with Juliet.
Known as Big Juliet and Little Juliet in the Prowse household, Little Juliet inherited her aunt’s athleticism and became a South African runner, but she was never as graceful as her famous aunt who was born to dance.
Juliet has an MBA from the University of Cape Town and a science degree from the University of Nebraska. She lives in Cape Town where she is an avid theatregoer and sports lover.
Connect on Social Media:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61572702340283
Website: www.julietprowse.com
Interview Date: August 10th, 2025
Episode Summary:
In this powerful and uplifting episode, we sit down with Aubrey Fisher — dancer, recording artist, and creative powerhouse — who went from teaching himself choreography in his living room to sharing stages with Jason Derulo, Snoop Dogg, Kendrick Lamar, DaBaby, and Tyga.
Aubrey opens up about his unique path into the entertainment industry, revealing how he went from a college basketball player to one of the most recognizable names in commercial dance. Raised by a musical family, including his mother Angie Fisher, a Grammy-nominated vocalist, Aubrey shares how faith, discipline, and divine timing shaped his evolution as both a performer and a person.
He takes listeners behind the curtain of tour life — from the long rehearsals and creative highs to the loneliness and grind that come with chasing big dreams. Aubrey also discusses how he transitioned from dance into music, using his platform to inspire and connect through storytelling, vulnerability, and sound.
Throughout the episode, Aubrey drops gems on consistency, humility, networking, and staying grounded, while encouraging the next generation of dancers to embrace their individuality and to never give up, even when the path isn’t linear.
This episode is perfect for dancers, aspiring choreographers, and creatives who dream of turning passion into purpose — and proof that you don’t need a traditional background to make it to the top
Shownotes:
(0:00) – Welcome & intro to Aubrey Fisher’s journey
(9:30) – Growing up dancing & balancing basketball dreams
(11:56) – First dance class at Millennium Dance Complex
(15:01) – Creating videos & finding confidence through content
(18:37) – From 2017 videos to viral success
(20:43) – Influence of Grammy-nominated mom, Angie Fisher
(23:26) – Joining Jason Derulo’s tour & worldwide travel
(27:14) – Tour life highs, lows & mental balance
(35:04) – Industry lessons: business, ethics & awareness
(1:29:49) – Final advice: stay humble, authentic & resilient
Biography:
Aubrey is known for his phenomenal dance skills and captivating stage presence, but now he’s taking the music world by storm. A rising star creating his own lane with a sound of music, singer, songwriter and professional dancer. Aubrey is a recording artist from Pasadena, California. At a young age, Aubrey was very much surrounded by music and entertainment by his Mother "Angie Fisher". A Grammy nominated singer who performed background vocals for Michael Jackson, Kelly Clarkson, Jennifer Lopez, Missy Elliott, Keisha Cole, Jamie Foxx, Michael Bublé and many more. Aubrey played basketball in college for one year to later quit to pursue his career as a professional dancer at the age of 19.
Aubrey has made a remarkable fan base on social media and has accomplished many success in the dance industry and worked on jobs like Super Bowl, Samsung, Toyota Corolla commercial, Pacsun, Celsius, and many more. Aubrey has also worked with artists like Snoop Dogg, Kendrick Lamar, Dababy, Travis Scott, Jason Derulo and more.
After a few years of working in the industry Aubrey has decided to build his career in music and says he wants to be the next “superstar”. Aubrey believes that he can make a huge impact in music starting off as an independent artist. Aubrey is an r&b, pop and hip-hop powerhouse vocalist and loves to create music for people to feel alive, happy, soulful and energetic. Aubrey is very versatile and loves to explore different styles of music, not only for himself but for the listeners as well.
Connect on Social Media:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_aubreyfisher/
Interview Date: August 3rd, 2025
Episode Summary:
Choreographer/director Lindsey Blaufarb (half of LNC Collective) maps the leap from touring dancer to Emmy-nominated creative. A military kid who moved often, she found community through arts, earned an Urban Jam scholarship, then moved to L.A. at 17 to attend Hollywood High and the EDGE program—surviving on bar-mitzvah gigs and big dreams.
Lindsey unpacks early heartbreaks and lucky breaks: the Christina Milian switcheroo, saying no to Britney’s Circus tour to fully pivot, and landing Avril Lavigne’s record-breaking “Girlfriend” video after being invited into Avril’s band. She breaks down real creative direction—styling, staging, lighting, content, team-building—and shares lessons from The Voice, Blue’s Big City Adventure, and directing Pentatonix’s tours.For dancers, she gives today’s playbook: build a brand look, study an artist’s world, post smart on Instagram, DM thoughtfully, be a great hang, and let your originality—and energy—do the talking. Mindset, resilience, and resourcefulness thread through it all.
Shownotes:
(0:00) – Welcome, Guest Intro, Urban Jam throwback,
(9:48) – Late start, moving often, arts community
(12:32) – Urban Jam scholarship leads to L.A.
(13:55) – Hollywood High + EDGE, solo at 17
(21:12) – Christina Milian switch; “everything happens” lesson
(28:58) – Turned down Britney tour to pivot
(32:31) – Avril invites band; choreographs “Girlfriend”
(39:24) – Blue’s Big City Adventure: feature musical
(41:51) – Directing Pentatonix tours; Christmas prep
(49:40) – How to stand out now: brand, energy
Biography:
Lindsey Blaufarb is one half of L&C Collective and an Emmy-nominated and two-time World Choreography Award-winning choreographer and director. Her celebrated work spans film, commercials, music videos, television, and live performances, including The Masked Singer, The Voice, America’s Got Talent, and the musical feature film Blue’s Big City Adventure.
In music, she has collaborated with top artists such as Karol G, Lykke Li, Pentatonix, Tori Kelly, Jacob Collier, Kelly Rowland, Pink, Blake Shelton, Weezer, Missy Elliot, Ty Dolla $ign, Usher, Miley Cyrus, Nicki Minaj, Justin Bieber, Ricky Martin, Avril Lavigne, and others, crafting iconic moments like Cee-Lo Green’s Grammy-nominated F** You* music video.
Her commercial credits include major campaigns for Target, Apple, McDonald’s, Hyundai, Madden, and a variety of globally recognized brands.
Renowned for her originality and trendsetting artistry, Lindsey continues to push boundaries and elevate entertainment across every medium.
Connect on Social Media:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/im_lindseyb?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==
Website: https://www.clcollective.net/
Interview Date: July 14th, 2025
Episode Summary:
Eden Shabtai shares how a kid from a tiny Israeli kibbutz—obsessed with MTV and training in ballet and modern—willed her way into New York’s scene and eventually L.A.’s major stages. She opens up about the unglamorous decade of artist development, underpaid gigs, and nonstop outreach that built the foundation for her “overnight” break assisting on Chris Brown’s Loyal, leading to major award shows and TV. A six-month backpacking trip through India reshaped her idea of success, while the O-1 visa process taught ruthless persistence. Eden also speaks candidly about receiving an aggressive breast-cancer diagnosis while five months pregnant, undergoing chemo with cold-cap treatments, and protecting her peace by avoiding toxic workrooms.
Creatively, Eden explains why she builds choreography live in the studio—feeding off dancers and music—and why energy, individuality, and attitude matter more than stacked résumés. Listeners will gain insight into using social media strategically, differences between NYC training and L.A. work volume, how to stand out in auditions (presence, styling, quick adjustments), and the mindset that sustains a career: humility, resilience, and community.
Shownotes:
(0:00) – Welcome and guest introduction
(8:20) – Early roots: ballet, modern, MTV influence
(13:53) – India trip reframes success and happiness
(15:24) – Visa grind: persistence, evidence, good lawyer
(18:53) – Moving to L.A.: training vs. booking realities
(21:08) – Breakthrough: assisting on “Loyal”
(26:44) – Favorite projects: BET 2014, Fleur East
(29:31) – Cancer while pregnant: resilience and boundaries
(42:05) – Creative process: energy-first choreography
(51:19) – What makes dancers stand out
Biography:
Originally from a kibbutz in northern Israel, Eden began training in ballet and modern at age 7. With no formal hip-hop classes available at the time, she learned by watching MTV. Determined to pursue dance professionally, she left home at 16 to study at a specialized dance school. After serving in the IDF, she spent six transformative months traveling India before moving to New York City to chase her dream.
In NYC, Eden trained at Broadway Dance Center and quickly became a sought-after teacher for over 150 young students while choreographing for up-and-coming artists. Realizing her long-term goals required a move west, she relocated to Los Angeles in 2010.
Since then, Eden has worked across NBC, ABC, BET, FOX, CBS, VH1, CW, and MTV. Her credits include the VMAs, Grammys, Billboard Awards, Dancing with the Stars, iHeart Radio Awards, BET Awards, Soul Train Awards, X Factor, The Ellen Show, James Corden, American Idol, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, and more. She has choreographed campaigns for Hasbro, Office Max, Office Depot, HEB, and Clark’s.
Eden has worked with artists including Chris Brown, Ariana Grande, Demi Lovato, Pitbull, Ava Max, Jason Derulo, Enrique Iglesias, Jamie Foxx, Ne-Yo, Lil Wayne, Marc Anthony, Flo-Rida, Brandy, Omarion, Miguel, Pia Mia, Little Mix, Sevyn Streeter, No Doubt, Snoop Dogg, Kehlani, Janelle Monáe, Fleur East, Priyanka Chopra, Machine Gun Kelly, Tinashe, WizKid, Serayah, DJ Snake, Hardwell, YungBlud, Jack & Jack, and many more.
In 2017 Eden served as a Judge/Mentor on a new Israeli dance competition series, where she became the winning mentor. Today she works as a choreographer, artistic director, artist developer, and consultant—living by her belief that with hard work, mental strength, and determination, anything is possible.
Connect:
Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/theedengarden/
Website – https://edenshabtai.com/
Interview Date: June 22nd, 2025
Episode Summary:
Dytto (aka Courtney Kelly) — the fembot icon of the dance community whose viral “Barbie Girl” freestyle on World of Dance launched a global following of ~10M across platforms. A professional mover, personality, and director, she’s appeared on The Ellen DeGeneres Show, starred in national campaigns (Android Wear, Target), and most recently served as Assistant Choreographer for Shakira.
In this conversation, Dytto traces her path from studio kid and cheerleader to self-driven freestyler, sharing how an alter ego helped her overcome stage fright and claim a unique lane in a male-dominated popping/animation space. She breaks down the business: why brand deals followed when she started talking (not just dancing), how she balances content “pillars,” and the realities of name usage, credits, and trademarking a stage name.
We also dive into monetization (and why dancing to copyrighted music pays everyone but the dancer), creating original music (Fembot Files), and her upcoming training app The Next Move—a practical system for turning freestyle fear into confidence. In the live Q&A she offers concrete drills, mindset resets, and career advice on evolving publicly, navigating street vs. commercial worlds, booking without auditions, and staying grounded in who you are—especially when everyone’s watching.
Shownotes:
(0:00) – Welcome & intro: “Barbie Girl” viral phenom joins the show
(2:13) – Early dance journey: from studio kid to freestyler
(4:27) – The making of “Barbie Girl” — purpose behind the moment
(6:20) – Creating “Dytto”: alter ego that conquered stage fright
(11:43) – Managing identity: real name vs. stage name
(15:50) – Viral momentum → brand deals, Ellen, and global recognition
(19:47) – $100K brand deal & secret to attracting sponsorships
(25:16) – New ventures: launching The Next Move freestyle app
(26:56) – Owning creativity: why she makes her own music (Fembot Files)
(1:18:16) – Final reflections: authenticity, vulnerability, and self-belief
Biography:
Dytto, the fembot icon of the dance community, is a professional mover, personality, and director. You may have seen her as a 17 yr old in her first viral freestyle on World of Dance called 'Barbie Girl' which launched her into a fruitful career. Since, she's been in numerous commercials, campaigns, and productions, some even of her own, being self-directed and produced for her infamous Youtube channel. Most recently, we watch her work come to life from her time assistant choreographing for the one and only, Shakira.
Connect on Social Media:
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/iam_dytto/
Website - iamdytto.com
Interview Date:
Episode Summary:
MSA New York’s Talent Director Bre Traver breaks down exactly how dancers get on an agent’s radar and build sustainable careers. From her path from dancer to agent, to what MSA looks for in reels, headshots, and Instagrams, Bre shares practical, no-fluff guidance on submissions, onboarding, and being an ideal client. She contrasts the NYC vs. LA markets (live stage, Broadway, tours, award shows), outlines big client don’ts, and explains how agents scout in class, at shows, and online. The lively Q&A hits trends, triple-threat training, youth work, self-tapes vs. in-person calls, and why persistence, professionalism, and clear goals separate dancers who book “the big jobs.”
Shownotes:
(0:00) – Welcome & intro to MSA and Bre’s NYC leadership
(11:28) – Bre’s journey: dancer to MSA Talent Director
(20:24) – Inside MSA NYC: Broadway, tours, TV, and more
(24:53) – How dancers get signed and scouted by agents
(28:14) – Social media tips: Instagram presence that books work
(32:23) – Onboarding goals: materials, availability, and communication
(35:56) – NYC vs LA markets: knowing where you belong
(39:10) – Professionalism tips: biggest audition and booking don'ts
(44:10) – How agents scout in class and online presence matters
(51:12) – Q&A takeaways: training, self-tapes, visas, and persistence
Biography:
Bre Traver joined McDonald Selznick Associates East Coast division in 2007. She worked through the ranks as an assistant to Jr. Agent, to Franchised Sr. Agent, to Director of the Talent Department to now Equity Partner in the company. Prior to agenting, Bre grew up as a dancer and received a BFA from University at Buffalo. Bre is still serving as a lead agent for MSA’s NY talent roster. Over the years she has had the pleasure of booking clients on national commercials (APPLE, Advil PM, Pepsi), feature films (Best of The Best, West Side Story, In The Heights, 13, Tick Tick Boom), television (SNL, Law & Order, Pose, Maisel, Étoile, GMA, The Tonight Show, Last Week Tonight), award shows (MTV VMAs, BET Awards, Super Bowl Halftime), national tours (Hamilton, Wicked, Moulin Rogue, MJ, Hell's Kitchen, Beetlejuice, Some Like It Hot, The Notebook, Mean Girls, Chicago), and live work (Corporate industrials, New York Fashion Week, The Met Gala). Bre is proud to work on behalf of such an established roster of talent and enjoys keeping her finger on the pulse of our ever-changing industry!
Connect on Social Media:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/breezyotoole/?hl=en
Website: www.msaagency.com
Interview Date: June 1st, 2025
Episode Summary:
Menina sits down with Tara-Jean Popowich—winner of So You Think You Can Dance Canada Season 2—for an inspiring look at resilience, self-belief, and adventure. From moving out at 15 to chase training, to struggling with $5/hour jobs in L.A., to the heartbreak of being cut from SYTYCD Season 1 and the comeback that won her the crown, Tara-Jean shares how grit, heart, and community shaped her career.She reflects on the whirlwind that followed—international tours, Bollywood, Dancing with the Stars India, and performing across 74 countries. We hear how she built longevity in an unpredictable industry, the challenges of visas and branding, and her passion project Human First, Dancer Second. Tara-Jean’s honesty about comparison, mindset, and mental health is a gift to young dancers navigating their own journeys.This episode is perfect for dancers chasing professional careers, teachers mentoring students with big dreams, and anyone curious about building a life in the arts that balances adventure, resilience, and authenticity
.Show Notes
(0:00) - Welcome & intro to Tara-Jean Popowich
(9:02) - Starting in small-town Alberta; cruise ships as “only dream”
(10:59) - Moving out at 15; juggling work, school, and dance (13:20) - First LA move; cleaning studios to train
(16:09) - Cut from SYTYCD Season 1; comeback mindset
(20:49) - Winning Season 2; confetti, cash prize, new doors
(23:42) - Life after SYTYCD; global whirlwind of jobs
(24:05) - India chapter: Bollywood, DWTS, love & challenges
(30:21) - Years abroad: London, Costa Rica, NY base
(32:02) - New focus: creative direction & Human First convention
(34:57) - Advice to younger self: believe earlier, avoid comparison
(36:01) - Q&A: mindset, favorite projects, navigating LA
(42:30) - The power of personal brand & social media
(45:00) - Visa realities: O-1s, green cards, legal path
(49:00) - Q&A: favorite country, advice for young dancers
(56:13) - Balancing passion vs. career; finding other outlets
(57:53) - Final advice: stop comparing, find joy, trust your path
Biography:
Tara-Jean Popowich is most known for winning "So you think you can dance"-Canada Season 2. Since the show she has been based out of NYC, LA, London, and India. During her time in NYC she was "Carly Rae Jepsen's" Choreographer and dancer seen on "Jimmy Fallon" and "Live with Kelly". Tara-Jean is also seen in Pharrells music video "Happy", "Turn it up" American tour, "Groove Street productions" , “Excel” guest faculty, choreographer for "So you think you can dance" Ukraine and special guest performer, choreographed and performed for Ballet Africa, IDS instructor in Madrid Spain, yearly performer with "SYTYCD" USA All-stars in China, Dove Cameron’s new video with Disney, is 1 of 6 featured dancers in a feature film based in Scotland, with choreographer Stacey Tookey. TJ was living in India and made top 6 as the celebrity on "Dancing with the stars"-season 7.
TJ was named one of the "hottest top 12 convention teachers" in the U.S. Tara-Jean is seen in Calvin klein's, "Dance in my calvin's" campaign. More recently on tour with VORTEX around South America and Europe. Check out Tara-Jean dancing for Shania Twain “swinging with my eyes closed” video. Also An official judge for “world of dance” in Poland. Tara-Jean is also an official ambassador for “MOVE IT” the biggest dance event in the UK. 28,000 dancers from around the world.
Where Tj will be teaching, performing, autograph sessions, and photo sessions.Tara-Jean directed and choreographed for the famous hand to hand acrobat’s “Charolette an Nicolas” from France’s got talent. Keep your eye out for her dancing in the hit TV series “What we do in the shadows” FX network.
Connect on Social Media:
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tarajeanpopowich/
Website - www.tara-jean.com
Interview Date: October 17, 2025
Episode Summary:
In this landmark 100th episode, the spotlight turns onto the visionary behind it all — Menina Fortunato, creator of The Business of Dance as a dance mentor and podcast host.
Interviewed by longtime friend and fellow performer Linda Ayentes, Menina reflects on her extraordinary career over the decades spanning live entertainment, television, touring, entrepreneurship, and motherhood.
Menina shares her beginnings growing up as a competitive dancer in Canada, her bold move to Los Angeles, and the early hustle of auditioning, securing her agent, and booking major projects. She opens up about performing with icons including Britney Spears, Beyoncé, Paula Abdul, Earth Wind & Fire, Rain, Carmen Electra, and working on massive productions like America's Got Talent, Star Trek: Enterprise, Alias, MAD TV, and more. From national commercials, world tours, TV/Film credits, Menina recounts the highs, heartbreaks, and the pivotal moments that shaped her artistic growth.
This episode also explores Menina’s evolution into producer and mentor—launching The Hollywood Summer Tour, and The Business of Dance online mentorship program helping hundreds of dancers book agents, cruise contracts, national tours, Netflix roles, Disney jobs, and commercial careers. She speaks candidly about balancing motherhood with juggling a career, burnout, rebuilding after 2020, and her mission to elevate and educate the next generation of dancers worldwide.
This episode is perfect for: dancers, choreographers, dance parents, young performers, creatives seeking longevity, and anyone craving inspiration from a woman who has reinvented herself at every stage of her career.
Shownotes:
(0:00) – Celebrating Episode 100 & introducing Menina Fortunato
(2:45) – How Menina and Linda first met
(6:10) – Menina’s early years growing up in dance
(12:40) – Moving to LA & landing her first agent
(18:55) – Booking major jobs: Beyoncé, Paula Abdul, Britney Spears
(27:30) – Performing on TV shows, tours, and award shows
(33:20) – Transitioning into producing and choreography
(47:50) – Launching The Hollywood Summer Tour & elevating young dancers
(1:02:35) – Creating The Business of Dance Mentorship
(1:25:10) – Menina’s advice on career longevity and reinvention
Menina Fortunato is the founder of Menina Entertainment and a powerhouse in the dance and entertainment industry with over 30 years of experience. She has performed on global stages and in major productions such as America’s Got Talent, Latin AMAs, Star Trek: Enterprise, and DC’s Legends of Tomorrow—sharing the stage with icons like Britney Spears, Beyoncé, Paula Abdul, Earth, Wind & Fire, and Maluma.Seamlessly transitioning from performer to producer, Menina has choreographed and produced for The X Factor, America’s Got Talent, and music videos filmed at Universal and Paramount Studios.
She has also served as a producer and voting panelist for the Universal Dance Awards and appeared as a guest judge on Dance Moms.As the visionary behind The Hollywood Summer Tour and The Business of Dance—the online mentorship program and podcast—Menina continues to empower and educate dancers worldwide as a dance mentor and podcast host.Her work has been featured in over 400 media outlets including Forbes, Success Magazine, FOX, Billboard, ABC, NBC, and top dance publications and podcasts.
Also a proud wife and mom of three, Menina is known for her resilience, versatility, and lifelong commitment to elevating the next generation of performers.
Connect on social media:
Website:
Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/meninafortunato/
https://www.instagram.com/thebizofdance/
https://www.instagram.com/dancehst/
Interview Date: May 25th,2025
Episode Summary:
Corynne Barron shares how a late start in dance, a ringette goalie’s grit, and a chance UK scholarship reshaped her technique and career trajectory. She walks us through So You Think You Can Dance Canada, cruise ships, and ultimately headlining as the Black Widow in Cirque du Soleil’s Mystère. Corynne opens up about saying “no” until the right “yes,” rehabbing a hip surgery, balancing motherhood with teaching and choreographing elite gymnastics floor routines, and the mindset shifts that turn nerves into fuel. Along the way: practical audition tips, backstage culture, and why confidence—and kindness—are a dancer’s best business strategy.
Shownotes:
(0:50) - Introduction & career highlights: RWB, SYTYCD, Cirque
(3:06) - Late dance start at 12; goalie to dancer
(4:10) - Year at Royal Winnipeg Ballet; classical training focus
(7:00) - SYTYCD dream begins; early ambition sparks
(10:02) - UK scholarship retrains technique from basics
(10:18–11:06) - Secret SYTYCD audition on 18th birthday
(16:18–19:39) - Cirque path: Berlin detour to Mystère lead
(21:24–22:12) - Motherhood, teaching & choreographing gymnastics routines
(23:06–35:06) - Q&A: auditions, cruise ships, nerves as excitement
(36:09–47:27) - Final advice: confidence, kindness, and saying yes
Biography:
Corynne Barron – Choreographer, Performer, and Visionary Artist
Corynne Barron is a celebrated artist whose remarkable career spans dance, performance, and choreography on a global stage. Trained at prestigious institutions such as the Royal Winnipeg Ballet School and under Kate Simmons in Warrington, England, Corynne gained national acclaim as a Top 12 finalist on So You Think You Can Dance Canada.
Her performance credits include the lead soloist role of “Black Widow” in Cirque du Soleil’s Mystère in Las Vegas, where she performed for three years, redefined the character, and served as Dance Captain. At Friedrichstadt-Palast Berlin, Europe’s largest theatre, she excelled as Dance Captain, soloist, aerialist, and ensemble dancer amongst a cast of over 60 dancers, with the partnering pole number created on her by Brian Friedman. Corynne has captivated audiences on America’s Got Talent, Shaq’s Fun House during the Super Bowl, the Vegas Strong benefit at T-Mobile Arena representing Mystère, and pre-show performances for the Vegas Golden Knights.
In film, Corynne performed as a dancer in a project in Scotland directed by Stacey Tookey for Imagination Film. Her work with Royal Caribbean Entertainment Studios on Allure of the Seas and Liberty of the Seas showcased her versatility as an aerialist, aqua show performer, dancer, and singer. She also modeled for Mondor Danceline in Montreal, and her image can still be found on Mondor tights to this day.
Now a prominent choreographer and educator, Corynne creates national-level floor routines for gymnastics and serves as an instructor at dance studios. She is a respected adjudicator for competitions such as Candance Convention and 5678 Showtime and teaches at IDance Convention Canada. Her past contributions include assisting at Nuvo Convention and teaching at Cirque du Soleil auditions, reflecting her commitment to nurturing future talent.
With multiple offers from Cirque du Soleil culminating in her iconic Mystère role, Corynne’s career exemplifies her exceptional artistry. She continues to inspire through her innovative choreography and passion for the performing arts.
Connect on Social Media:
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/corynnebarron/
Interview Date: December 14th, 2024
Episode Summary:
Vanessa Fuller, a dancer, choreographer, and the artistic director of Xcape Dance Company. Vanessa shares her inspiring journey from growing up in Eugene, Oregon, to becoming a multifaceted professional in the dance industry. She discusses her extensive career, including working with artists like E-40 and Twista, and her recent appearance on HBO Max’s Second Chance Stage. The show, which provides a platform for individuals over 30 to chase their dreams despite past obstacles, features Vanessa as one of the few dancers.
Vanessa reflects on how she balanced family life, owning a dance studio, and maintaining her passion for dance, despite the challenges. She emphasizes the importance of perseverance, maintaining relationships in the industry, and building an authentic personal brand. She also shares business tips for aspiring dancers, highlighting the importance of being true to oneself and using authenticity as a key to long-term success. Vanessa encourages dancers to embrace discomfort and use challenges as opportunities for growth.
Show Notes:
(0:00) Introduction to Vanessa Fuller
(2:00) Vanessa's early dance journey and passion for movement
(5:30) Balancing family life with a dance career
(10:00) Running Escape Dance Company and owning a studio
(13:45) Vanessa’s appearance on HBO Max's Second Chance Stage
(18:00) The concept of Second Chance Stage for dancers over 30
(21:00) Transitioning from studio owner to pursuing larger opportunities
(25:00) The importance of perseverance and relationships in booking work
(30:00) Building an authentic personal brand
(35:00) Advice on standing out in auditions
(40:00) The role of community in the dance world
(45:00) Managing business and family while staying connected to dance
(50:00) Embracing discomfort for growth
(55:00) Tips for dancers on navigating the business side of dance
(60:00) Building a strong social media presence
(65:00) Advice for older dancers and overcoming comparisons
(70:00) The importance of persistence and passion
(75:00) Closing thoughts on staying true to your journey
Biography:
Vanessa Fuller is a dancer, choreographer, and artistic director originally from Eugene, OR. She is the artistic director of Xcape Dance Company, where she has produced 10 full-length shows. Her dance and choreography have graced the stages of Club Jeté—LA's premier dance experience—and concerts from New York to California with artists such as E-40, Twista, The Game, Bone Thugz-N-Harmony, Zion I, and E.T. She has also worked on industrial projects for NAPA Auto Parts, Build San Francisco, the Qwest Events Center in Seattle, and Rockstar Energy Drink. She was a winning contestant on CBS’s Let’s Make a Deal with Wayne Brady.
Vanessa and her dance company filmed a casting pilot for MTV’s Made, a regional commercial, print ads for the University of Oregon, and have been featured performers in various professional events. Vanessa's choreography has won numerous awards at competitions and conventions and has won the JIGTV Brian Friedman Video Choreography Critique Contest at www.jigtv.com! Most recently, Vanessa was a dancer in the Emmy-nominated production of DanceAbility on Art Beat for OPB and choreographer and dancer for the headlining performance at the World Track and Field Festival sponsored by ASICS.
Vanessa’s training background includes hip-hop, jazz funk, and contemporary. She has trained at EDGE PAC (Los Angeles), Millennium Dance Complex (North Hollywood), Dance Mission (San Francisco), Monsters of Hip Hop, and master workshops with some of the best in the industry.
Connect on Social Media:
https://www.instagram.com/vanessafullerdance
https://www.facebook.com/vanessafullerdance
Website
https://xcapedance.my.canva.site/vanessafullerdance
Interview Date: May 11th, 2025
Houston Ballet soloist Jacquelyn Long traces her path from living-room pliés with her mom (a former pro) to summer intensives, HBII, and the main company. She shares how relationships and coachability shaped her trajectory, why modern/contemporary versatility now matters as much as classical technique, and how social media helps—but shouldn’t replace—the messy, vital process. We dig into audition materials, the “right” photos, favorite roles (Sylvia! Cinderella!), life as a working ballerina (weekly schedule, contracts, AGMA, benefits), pointe-shoe realities, nerves and mindset, longevity habits, and her growing passion for choreography. Plus: where to see her onstage next and practical encouragement for dancers finding their own path.
Show Notes:
(0:41) - Intro & bio; welcome Jacquelyn Long
(2:20) - How she started; early training at home
(2:24) - Mom steps back; Janina trains until 11
(3:14) - Houston Ballet intensives begin at 14
(5:31) - “Go where you’re liked” scholarships lesson
(6:49) - Relationships, coachability, work ethic matter
(12:20) - Be versatile: modern/contemporary equals ballet
(14:03) - Social media’s role; process over perfection
(16:03) - Audition toolkit: video, resume, show both styles
(18:49) - Best photos: true headshot, first arabesque
(20:32) - Favorite roles; Sylvia, Cinderella, new premieres
(22:21) - Business mindset: many paths, trust timing
(25:38) - Next chapter: choreography alongside performing
(45:16) - Contracts, AGMA, pay cadence, key benefits
(54:55) - Pointe shoes: custom Bloch, company-paid
(57:46) - Final advice; where to see Houston Ballet
Biography:
Jacquelyn Long began her ballet training under the direction of her mother, Suzanne Lownsbury, and Janina Michalski at Ballet Virginia. In 2010, she joined Houston Ballet II (HBII). After two years in the second company, Jacquelyn joined Houston Ballet as a Corps de Ballet member in 2012. Ms. Long was promoted to Soloist in 2016.
Ms. Long has performed leading roles such as the title role in Stanton Welch's Sylvia; Hermia in John Neumeier’s A Midsummer Night’s Dream; Gamzatti in Stanton Welch’s La Bayadère; Myrtha in Stanton Welch’s Giselle; Sugar Plum Fairy and Clara in Stanton Welch’s The Nutcracker; Valencienne in Ronald Hynd’s The Merry Widow; Carabosse and Princess Florine in Ben Stevenson's The Sleeping Beauty; Snow Queen in Ben Stevenson's The Nutcracker; Miranda in Stanton Welch's Romeo and Juliet.
She has also danced featured roles in George Balanchine’s Serenade, Emeralds, Concerto Barocco, and Symphony in C; Jiří Kylián's Stepping Stones, Dreamtime, and Wings of Wax; Justin Peck's Year of the Rabbit and Under the Folding Sky; William Forsythe’s Artifact Suite and In the middle somewhat elevated; Jorma Elo's ONE/end/ONE; Jerome Robbin’s Fancy Free; Stanton Welch's Divergence, Paquita, Velocity, Maninyas, Tapestry, and Son of Chamber Symphony.
Ms. Long was also featured in the Dancer's Spotlight of the 2013 October/November issue of Pointe Magazine and in the 2013 February issue of Dance Spirit Magazine.
Connect on Social Media:
Website - https://www.houstonballet.org/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jac_long/
Interview Date: May 4th, 2025
Episode Summary:
Australian dancer–choreographer–TV judge Joshua Horner traces his wildly diverse path: asthma kid → Australian Ballet soloist → West End lead in Movin’ Out → Broadway’s Billy Elliot → Disney creative in Los Angeles → Dancing With The Stars judge → reality-TV creator → and finally, a show-stopping pivot into real estate where he sells homes with full theatrical flair. Along the way he unpacks visas, networking that pays off a decade later, audition tactics, standing out without gimmicks, why technique still wins, and how to future-proof a dance career with bravery, focus, and business sense. The Q&A dives into agents in Australia, cruise-ship hustles, concert vs. commercial dance choices, and breaking into Broadway
Shownotes:
(0:00) — Roll call, cameras on, global intros
(0:59) — Guest intro: multi-market career highlights
(3:21) — Asthma leads Josh into dance
(6:12) — Australian Ballet School, company contract
(6:37) — Dirty Dancing understudy; Twyla Tharp notice
(7:59) — London West End lead, green card plan
(8:59) — Broadway debut, Billy Elliot & Tony Awards
(18:05) — Disney dream: 10-year networking seed blooms
(23:32) — DWTS judge role; weekly LA–Australia commute
(26:03) — Reality TV pilot; shifting industry landscape
(28:14 )— Breakup with dance, pivot to real estate
(30:26)— Viral listings: showgirls, humor, entertainment
(34:48) — Q&A: agents, cruise ships, hustling tips
(45:20) — Career crossroads: commercial vs. contemporary dance
(59:14) — Final advice: technique, smarts, bravery
Biography:
Ladies and gentlemen, meet Josh Horner – the former dance floor dynamo, Disneyland's creative wizard, and the unforgettable judge on Dancing With The Stars! Now back in his hometown, Josh is lighting up real estate with The Horner Agency and his iconic gnome sidekick. Forget record-breaking sales—it's his viral videos that have buyers and vendors lining up, all because the JOY is real with this guy! With a knack for connecting and a flair for fun, every deal with Josh is a showstopper. Get ready to experience real estate like never before!
Connect on Social Media:
Website - thehorneragency.com
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/joshuajhorner/
Interview Date: September 21st, 2025
Episode Summary:In this inspiring conversation, Menina Fortunato sits down with Julie McDonald, the trailblazing co-founder of MSA Agency and the first dance agent in history. Julie shares her incredible journey from professional dancer to industry visionary—representing some of the biggest names in choreography and performance.She reflects on the evolution of the commercial dance world, the importance of professionalism and preparation, and what truly sets apart dancers who build lasting careers. Julie offers invaluable advice on networking, auditions, and why knowing your dance history—from Bob Fosse to Jerome Robbins—is essential for any serious artist.From agency insight to mentorship, this episode is filled with stories, wisdom, and warmth from a woman who changed the industry for dancers everywhere. Julie also shares exciting news about being honored with the Trailblazer Award at Gala of the Stars—a full-circle moment for one of dance’s greatest advocates.This episode is perfect for dancers, teachers, and aspiring professionals who want to understand the business behind dance, the art of longevity, and the power of curiosity and gratitude in shaping a meaningful career.
Shownotes:
(0:00) – Welcome & intro to Julie McDonald and her legacy
(3:15) – Julie’s start as a dancer & transition into agency life
(7:40) – Founding MSA: creating the first dance agency in the world
(12:25) – Representing choreographers, dancers & industry icons
(22:10) – What makes a dancer stand out to an agent
(35:05) – How the dance industry evolved through the decades
(50:12) – Advice: professionalism, mindset, and consistency
(1:13:05) – Julie’s message: know your dance history & icons
(1:16:16) – Gala of the Stars — Julie honored with Trailblazer Award
(1:16:57) – Closing: gratitude, selfies, and inspiration for young dancers
Biography:
Julie McDonald is the visionary co-owner of McDonald Selznick Associates (MSA) and a trailblazer in dance and choreography representation. In 1985, she launched the first talent agency devoted exclusively to dance, setting a new standard for advocacy, professionalism, and artistic excellence in the industry.
From the outset, Julie championed fair terms and improved working conditions for dancers and choreographers, tirelessly promoting the visibility and integrity of commercial dance. In 2000, she joined forces with Tony Selznick to found MSA, which today represents a roster of award‑winning talent. Her clients have earned Emmy, Tony, MTV, and MTV Awards—while leading the creative teams behind Broadway hits, Las Vegas spectaculars, high‑profile films, television dramas, sitcoms, and major awards shows (Emmy, Grammy, Oscar).
A dedicated collaborator and industry visionary, Julie co‑created the American Choreography Awards (1994–2004), celebrating excellence in dance across media. Her pioneering work has been recognized with Lifetime Achievement Awards from both the Choreographers Carnival and McCallum’s Choreography Festival.
Through her ongoing projects and continued leadership at MSA, Julie McDonald remains a powerful force in shaping the future of dance, honoring its past, and empowering the artists who bring it to life.
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