Notes and Links to Kiese Laymon’s Work   Kiese Laymon is a Black southern writer from Jackson, Mississippi. Laymon is the Libbie Shearn Moody Professor of English and Creative Writing at Rice University. Laymon is the author of Long Division, which won the 2022 NAACP Image Award for fiction, and the essay collection, How to Slowly Kill Yourself and Others in America, named a notable book of 2021 by the New York Times critics. Laymon’s bestselling memoir, Heavy: An American Memoir, won the Andrew Carnegie Medal for Excellence in Nonfiction, the Christopher Isherwood Prize for Autobiographical Prose, the Barnes and Noble Discovery Award, the Austen Riggs Erikson Prize for Excellence in Mental Health Media, and was named one of the 50 Best Memoirs of the Past 50 Years by The New York Times. The audiobook, read by the author, was named the Audible 2018 Audiobook of the Year. Laymon is the recipient of 2020-2021 Radcliffe Fellowship at Harvard. Laymon is at work on the books, Good God, and City Summer, Country Summer, and a number of other film and television projects. He is the founder of The Catherine Coleman Literary Arts and Justice Initiative, a program based out of the Margaret Walker Center at Jackson State University, aimed at aiding young people in Jackson get more comfortable reading, writing, revising and sharing on their own terms, in their own communities. He is the co-host of Reckon True Stories with Deesha Philyaw. Kiese Laymon was awarded a MacArthur Fellowship in 2022. Buy Heavy   “The Worst Shot Ever Taken” from Believer Magazine   Review for Heavy from NPR   Kiese Laymon's Website   Kiese Laymon's Wikipedia Page At about 1:45, the two discuss Kiese’s article from The Believer and word counts and teaching high and college  At about 3:05, Kiese talks about his love of hoops and names some standout and favorite players from back in the day and now At about 4:10, The two shout out grizzled veterans like Phillip Rivers and LeBron James At about 5:30, Pete highlights Ernie Barnes’ work and asks Kiese about the significance of Barnes’ paintings At about 8:45, Kiese shares his memories of and love for basketball and jumpstops and shot fakes-shout out, Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf At about 10:40, Pete shouts out Jeff Pearlman’s basketball wiles At about 11:10, Kiese lays out the exposition for his The Believer article and Pete and Kiese fanboy over Kiese’s writer friends and Sactown’s own, Cydni Matsuoka At about 14:00, Kiese responds to Pete’s question about the “possibility” of Steph Curry At about 16:45, Toni Cade Bambara and “Gorilla, My Love” is highlighted, as Pete links Kiese’s penultimate sentence to Bambara’s work At about 18:20, The two discuss Kiese’s mom as a “public intellectual” and Kiese lists formative reading and listening  At about 20:30, Kiese shouts out Kendrick Lamar as a link to Public Enemy’s activism and consciousness, and marvels at his lasting power At about 24:20, Kiese reflects on Public Enemy’s methods versus that of others like NWA or Dead Prez At about 26:25, Kiese highlights Julian Randle, Safiya Sinclair, Deesha Philyaw, and Sarah Aziza’s work as some that resonates with his college students At about 28:40, Pete calls attention to Heavy’s epigraph and dedication and discusses their significance  At about 30:05-30:27 At about 31:05, Kiese responds to Pete’s question about so much of the book’s Prologue being centered on his Grandmama At about 32:45, Kiese outlines his rationale and motivation for ultimately writing a different type of book, not the “safer” book his mom and publishers might have wanted At about 34:30, Kiese and Pete discuss the echo of his time at Millsap College being censored/edited with an op-ed piece of his At about 35:40, Kiese recounts stories associated with the book’s opening scene in Las Vegas At about 38:45, Kiese reflects on his mother as his “best friend” and ideas of mortality and “initation”  At about 40:55, Kiese responds to Pete’s questions about the way

Notes and Links to Cole Cuchna’s Work     Cole Cuchna graduated from California State University with a degree in music composition. Cuchna graduated in 2015, pursued a short solo career, then worked as a barista. But his desire to bridge the classical and pop worlds persisted. He remembered his love of writing essays and conducting deep research about music. That coincided with the growing popularity of podcasting, which had been around for a decade. It was the perfect medium, he felt, for long-form analysis of an audio art.    Cole is the host and creator of Dissect Podcast, a music podcast which debuted in 2016. The podcast is renowned for its in-depth analysis of contemporary music. Dissect was named "Best podcast of 2017" by Quartz, and the following year was named "Best podcast of 2018" by The New York Times. Additionally, both Time magazine and The Guardian listed Dissect as one of the top 50 podcasts of 2018. 2025 marks the 13th season of Dissect.  Listen to Dissect Podcast   Watch Dissect Podcast on Netflix   Dissect Podcast Homepage   Dissect Podcast Wikipedia   Review of Dissect Podcast   At about 2:55, Cole explains plans for Dissect Podcast on Netflix, coming soon! At about 4:40, Cole responds to Pete’s question about his own love of hip hop and transformative and formative music for him  At about 6:50, Cole underscores the “shared community” of skating growing up that welcomed “rappers” and “rockers” At about 8:30, Robin Branson, who put Pete on to Dissect (thanks, Robin), asks Cole about his view of himself as an “educator” At about 12:35, the two discuss Cole’s research process and ideas of knowing the artist and his/her art At about 15:45, Pete shares a profound quote from Cole about the essence of music and music fandom At about 16:15, Cole responds to Pete’s question about how he listens to music differently (or not) since he has become  At about 17:20, Cole expands upon the genesis for the podcast, dealing with Kendrick Lamar’s To Pimp a Butterfly and his daughter’s birth At about 19:00, a discussion of possible future hip hop heads alludes to a classic video At about 20:00, Cole outlines his average research time and his early research in the early days of the podcast At about 20:45, Cole explains what skills he had already developed in college music composition, and what skills he has learned/used in doing the podcast At about 22:20, Cole responds to Pete’s question about how he picks an album At about 25:00, Pete details some of the great “subtlety and nuance” on the podcast At about 26:45, Cole expands on one of the show’s “inside jokes” At about 27:45, Pete brings up “syncopation” in Radiohead’s work in asking Cole about he balances sonic and lyrical jargon with digestible information for people who are not necessarily students of music theory  At about 32:15, Cole responds to Pete’s question about what it’s like to work with experts on individual artists in crafting his seasons  At about 34:25, Cole and Pete discuss the “side projects” that Cole has done involving standout artists and songs At about 36:20, Cole reflects on contemporary artists and his willingness to stay open to new sounds and talents At about 40:20, Cole talks about cool and beneficial feedback from the artists profiled on the podcast At about 41:40, Cole responds to Pete asking about “surreal” moments he’s experienced in doing the podcast and offshoot projects  At about 42:40, Manifesting for a future Cole interview with Kendrick! At about 43:20, Cole shouts out the rapper who has “sealed the deal” for him as the G.O.A.T. At about 44:25, When’s Frank Ocean gonna drop?      You can now subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, and leave a five-star review. You can also ask for the podcast by name using Alexa, and find the pod on Stitcher, Spotify, and on Amazon Music. Follow Pete on IG, where he is @chillsatwillpodcast, or on Twitter, where he is @chillsatwillpo1. You can watch other episodes on YouTube-watch and subsc

Notes and Links to Joe McGinniss’ Work   Joe McGinniss Jr. is the author of DAMAGED PEOPLE, CAROUSEL COURT and THE DELIVERY MAN. Buy Damaged People: A Memoir of Fathers and Sons   Joe's Wikipedia   Review of Damaged People in Kirkus Reviews   People Magazine Article about Damaged People At about 1:30, Joe talks about wonderful feedback he’s gotten from readers of his memoir At about 2:40, Pete and Joe reflect on his father’s work and ideas in relation to the “public intellectual” At about 4:45, Joe expands on the hard work and determination that led to him being so revered, even by Robert F. Kennedy At about 8:10, Joe gives purchasing information for Damaged People  At about 9:30, Joe gives seeds and background for his memoir, including a catalyst in a 2016 New Yorker article At about 10:45, The two discuss the book’s epigraphs and Joe remarks on writing about such personal experiences and close friends and family At about 13:50, Joe responds to Pete’s questions about the book’s Prologue setting At about 16:50, Joe expands on the analogy of his father put forth by his brother of their father as a “puppy pissing on the rug” At about 21:40, Pete references Lorenzo Carcaterra’s A Safe Place and connections to Joe’s book At about 23:00, Joe expands upon cycles involving sons and fathers and reflects on the line from the book that “progress is being made” At about 28:00, Joe responds to Pete’s questions about a telling photo opp for a magazine article on Heroes by his father At about 30:50, Pete and Joe give background on Joe, Sr.’s breakthrough with The Selling of the President, and Joe discusses connections between the events of the book and today’s politics At about 33:00, the two discuss Joe’s father’s triumphs and the parts he was lacking as a father, in connection to his own father’s treatment of him; Joe emphasizes that his son knew he “was loved” by his grandfather  At about 36:20, Pete lays out some of the book’s flashforward scene to beautiful memories of his growing son and wonderful wife, and then the two talk Rex Chapman and basketball inspiration  At about 40:10, Joe talks about his first book’s tour, and how he built great memories, and he talks about the juxtaposed  At about 41:40, The two discuss the “idyllic” life lived by Joe’s father (and Joe for a while), and Joe shares some amazing anecdotes from those days At about 44:40, Joe relates the story of his dog Lucy being stolen by a 19-year-old Kiefer Sutherland (!) At about 45:30, Joe expands on his father’s experience researching Fatal Vision At about 49:50, Joe gives background on the importance of the saying, “Everything’s blowin’ away” in connection to his father’s energy and ambition and anxiety At about 52:45, Joe responds to Pete’s questions about his father’s treatment of Jeffrey McDonald in Fatal Vision At about 53:30, Pete reflects on changes in Joe’s relationship with his son as he grows up At about 54:30, Joe recounts the story that Janet Malcolm wrote regarding the MacDonald case and how Joe, Sr. was sued  At about 59:20, Joe traces the late 80s and 90s for his father, and his bold decision to turn down an O.J. Simpson trial book and write instead about Italian soccer At about 1:05:30, Joe shares his perspective on apology letters and confession letters written by his father to him and his siblings At about 1:08:00, Joe reflects on the times in which he knew he had been too overbearing and strict with his son in his basketball career At about 1:11:50, Joe reflects on ideas of life and father-son relationships as “process[es]” in connection to his father’s death and “gaps” left behind At about 1:15:10, Joe responds to Pete’s question about how he now sees sons after these years of writing and reflection  At about 1:17:30, Joe charts his dad’s reactions to hip-hop      You can now subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, and leave a five-star review. You can also ask for the podcast by name using Alexa, and find the pod on Stitcher, S

Notes and Links to Jackie Domenus’ Work   Jackie Domenus (she/they) is a queer writer from South Jersey and the author of NO OFFENSE: A MEMOIR IN ESSAYS (2025), published with ELJ Editions. A 2021 Tin House Winter Workshop graduate, Jackie’s essays have appeared in The HuffPost, The Offing Mag, The Normal School, Variant Lit, Entropy, Watershed Review, Wig-Wag, Philadelphia Stories, and HerStry, among other publications Their poetry has appeared in Hooligan Mag and Giving Room Mag. Her short story “Mirror Image” published in So To Speak, as well as her essay “Two Truths and a Lie” published in Identity Theory, were both nominated for a Pushcart Prize.    Jackie has formerly served as a publishing assistant at Guernica Magazine, an associate editor for Glassworks Magazine, and a contest coordinator for Philadelphia Stories. They work as the Program Director for Fellowships at Mid Atlantic Arts. Buy No Offense: A Memoir in Essays   Jackie's Website   Review of No Offense in The Rumpus: “Misperceptions, Assumptions, and Slurs: Jackie Domenus’s No Offense” At about 3:45, Jackie talks about ideas of representation and reading as a kid-they highlight The Perks of Being a Wallflower At about 6:50, shout out to Shel Silverstein’s feet (and writing)! At about 7:15, Jackie responds to Pete’s questions about their early writing journey At about 9:45, Jackie reflects on writing as “cathartic” and "therapeutic," in certain conditions, and in some conditions, not so At about 12:20, Zoe Bossier, Kiese Laymon, Melissa Febos, and K.B. Brookins are shouted out as writers who thrill and challenge Jackie At about 14:05, Pete asks Jackie about their book’s Foreword and the process in ultimately deciding to include early writing that had them in different and perhaps more privileged places At about 18:10, Pete and Jackie  At about 20:40, Jackie talks about interesting and fun feedback from readers At about 24:30, Jackie responds to Pete asking about early on in the book defining “microaggression” At about 26:15, Pete lays out the book’s exposition in discussing the first essay of the book, and Jackie expands upon the essay’s themes and connecting POVs At about 30:20, Jackie emphasizes their belief that any memoir, particularly queer and trans memoir, does not need to be linear At about 31:15, the two discuss the book’s essay meditations on the uses of terms for men and women connected to dogs At about 33:15, Jackie responds to Pete’s question about the anecdote in the essay where their dad broke down over the loss of the family dog At about 35:35, Jackie and Pete discuss Mary Poppins and heroes and queer people and their representations in media in Jackie’s formative years   At about 39:00, The two discuss ignorance and ideas of “othering” as reflected in a resonant anecdote in the book about a trip to the OB/GYN At about 42:45, Pete uses an example from a Simpsons’ episode in asking Jackie about the balance between educating and becoming a crutch for people looking for validation At about 46:50, Jackie expands upon the line from the book that their “coming out was not really a ‘coming out’ ” At about 49:10, Jackie reflects on the material from the book’s essay dealing with interpretations of queerness in Jennifer’s Body, Girl, Interrupted, and Black Swan At about 53:15, Jackie discusses an essay that identifies three “first loves” and traces their outward sexuality At about 56:20, Pete compliments Jackie’s use of second person, highlighting a beautiful imagined scene on Page 84, and Jackie talks about their mindset and aim for the essay At about 1:00:35, “Burden of Proof” and a student of Jackie’s, Isaac’s, moving experiences are discussed At about 1:04:50, Fear and the Trump era are discussed as rendered in the book, as well as Jackie’s continuing "realization"    You can now subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, and leave me a five-star review. You can also ask for the podcast by name using Alexa, and find the pod on Stitch

Notes and Links to Amber Sparks’ Work   Amber Sparks is the author of the short story collections And I Do Not Forgive You and The Unfinished World. Her writing has appeared in The Paris Review, Granta, Slate, and elsewhere. She lives in Washington, D.C., with her husband, daughter, and cats. Happy People Don’t Live Here was published in October 2025. Buy Happy People Don't Live Here   Amber’s Website   Kirkus Reviews of Happy People Don't Live Here At about 1:20, Amber describes the “weird” time about a month after the book’s publication, an in-between time At about 2:25, Amber talks about the feedback she has received since the book was published, including surprising thoughts shared about the child narrator and the “other” narrator, Alice At about 5:25, Amber talks about her influences growing up, including fantasy and writers like Dean Koontz  At about 7:40, Amber talks about her inclination to write a book featuring multiple genres, with the result being Happy People Don’t Live Here  At about 9:20, Amber responds to Pete asking about plot and allegory and their balance At about 11:35, Amber shouts out Kelly Link, Rion Amicar-Scott, Stephen Graham-Jones, and Matt Bell as a few of many contemporary writers she loves At about 14:35, Amber and Pete discuss the book’s resonant epigraphs, and Amber talks about her interest in ghosts  At about 18:00, Pete shouts out the classic story “Someone Has Been Disarranging these Roses” At about 19:15, Amber explains her chapters and the rationale in making the book “episodic” At about 20:50, The book’s beginning and connections to real-life events is discussed  At about 24:35, The two discuss one of the book’s main character, Fern At about 27:10, Pete compliments the book’s setting, and Amber provides background for the place At about 30:00, the two discuss the book’s inciting incident, a body discovered by Fern, and Amber expands on the ways she went about populating the book At about 35:40, some key characters are discussed, including a possible love interest for Alice At about 36:40, Amber responds to Pete’s question about Alice’s ex-husband as a sort of flat character-she calls him a “cipher” At about 40:10, Amber reflects on Alice’s ways of avoiding the past and running from this past, and Amber shouts out William H. Macy in Magnolia At about 43:50, the two discuss the “banal” ghost At about 47:00, parent-child relationships are discussed At about 51:20, Pete asks Amber about writing in second-person, as she does for part of her book-shout out to Lorrie Moore! At about 55:40, Amber talks about exciting new projects  You can now subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, and leave me a five-star review. You can also ask for the podcast by name using Alexa, and find the pod on Stitcher, Spotify, and on Amazon Music. Follow Pete on IG, where he is @chillsatwillpodcast, or on Twitter, where he is @chillsatwillpo1. You can watch other episodes on YouTube-watch and subscribe to The Chills at Will Podcast Channel. Please subscribe to both the YouTube Channel and the podcast while you’re checking out this episode.       Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. His conversation with Hannah Pittard, a recent guest, is up at Chicago Review.     Sign up now for The Chills at Will Podcast Patreon: it can be found at patreon.com/chillsatwillpodcastpeterriehl      Check out the page that describes the benefits of a Patreon membership, including cool swag and bonus episodes. Thanks in advance for supporting Pete’s one-man show, DIY podcast and extensive reading, research, editing, and promoting to keep this independent podcast pumping out high-quality content! This month’s Patreon bonus episode features an exploration of flawed characters, protagonists who are too real in their actions, and horror and noir as being where so m

Notes and Links to Kurt Baumeister’s Work   Kurt Baumeister’s writing has appeared in Salon, Guernica, Electric Literature, Rain Taxi, The Brooklyn Rail, The Rumpus, Vol. 1 Brooklyn, The Nervous Breakdown, The Weeklings, and other outlets. An acquisitions editor with 7.13 Books, Baumeister holds an MFA in creative writing from Emerson College, and is a member of The National Book Critics Circle and The Authors Guild. Twilight of the Gods is his second novel. Buy Twilight of the Gods   Kurt’s Website   Chicago Review of Books Interview Re: Twilight of the Gods  At about 2:45, Kurt talks about the book’s original publication date falling around the 2024 elections At about 6:15, Kurt reflects on the vagaries of publishing, and interesting and complimentary feedback from readers on the book At about 11:30, Pete shares a wonderful quote about Kurt’s writing, and Kurt discusses Martin Amis and other influences on his writing At about 15:45, The two discuss the book’s “Dramatis Personae” to start the book and some tongue-in-cheek descriptions of some Norse gods At about 17:30, Kurt responds to Pete’s questions about Loki’s historical and mythical evolutions At about 20:30, Kurt reflects on metafiction and gives background on why he names a main character in the book “Kurt” At about 23:50, Kurt talks about media representations of Loki in connection to his own At about 25:30, Kurt describes why he makes Loki as he is  At about 28:20, Kurt gives background on the Norns, of which Sunshine/Sabrina from the book is a member At about 29:30, Pete compliments the ways the book traces human history, particularly with regard to Hitler’s rise  At about 34:15, Kurt responds to Pete’s question about mixing fiction and fact At about 37:00, Kurt talks about history repeating itself and connecting disparate eras  At about 39:55, Kurt responds to Pete’s question about the subtleties and the nuances of the book, i.e, plot focus v. allegory focus At about 42:00, Kurt discusses his mindset in writing the ending(s) of the book At about 45:00, An intriguing question posed in the book about fate is probed At about 45:50, Pete cites the book’s ending as highly successful, and Kurt shouts out a shared beloved movie, Training Day, with regard to slowly-creeping evil  At about 47:50, a “reverence and pity” for artists is discussed, as mentioned in the book   You can now subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, and leave me a five-star review. You can also ask for the podcast by name using Alexa, and find the pod on Stitcher, Spotify, and on Amazon Music. Follow Pete on IG, where he is @chillsatwillpodcast, or on Twitter, where he is @chillsatwillpo1. You can watch other episodes on YouTube-watch and subscribe to The Chills at Will Podcast Channel. Please subscribe to both the YouTube Channel and the podcast while you’re checking out this episode.       Pete is very excited to have one or two podcast episodes per month featured on the website of Chicago Review of Books. The audio will be posted, along with a written interview culled from the audio. His conversation with Hannah Pittard, a recent guest, is up at Chicago Review.     Sign up now for The Chills at Will Podcast Patreon: it can be found at patreon.com/chillsatwillpodcastpeterriehl      Check out the page that describes the benefits of a Patreon membership, including cool swag and bonus episodes. Thanks in advance for supporting Pete’s one-man show, DIY podcast and extensive reading, research, editing, and promoting to keep this independent podcast pumping out high-quality content! This month’s Patreon bonus episode features an exploration of flawed characters, protagonists who are too real in their actions, and horror and noir as being where so much good and realistic writing takes place. Pete has added a $1 a month tier for “Well-Wishers” and Cheerleaders of the Show.     This is a passion project, a DIY operation, and Pete would love for your help in promoting what he’s convinced

Notes and Links to Stephanie Elizondo Griest’s Work *Content Warning: Please be aware that the book discusses sexual assault   Stephanie Elizondo Griest is a globetrotting author from the Texas/Mexico borderlands. Her six books include Around the Bloc: My Life in Moscow, Beijing, and Havana; Mexican Enough; All the Agents and Saints; and Art Above Everything: One Woman’s Global Exploration of the Joys and Torments of a Creative Life. She has also written for the New York Times, Washington Post, VQR, The Believer, BBC, Orion, Lit Hub, and Oxford American. Her work has been supported by the Lannan Foundation, Henry Luce Foundation, Princeton University, and the Institute for Arts and Humanities, and she has won a Margolis Award, an International Latino Book Award, a PEN Southwest Book Award, and two Lowell Thomas Travel Journalism prizes. Currently Professor of Creative Nonfiction at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, Elizondo Griest has performed in capacities ranging from a Moth storyteller to a literary ambassador for the U.S. State Department. Wanderlust has led her to 50 countries and 49 states. Her hardest journey was to Planet Cancer in 2017, but she’s officially in remission now. She recently endowed Testimonios Fronterizos, a research grant for student journalists from the borderlands enrolled at her alma mater, the University of Texas at Austin’s School of Journalism. Buy Art Above Everything   Stephanie's Website   Review of Art Above Everything in Southern Review At about 3:40 Stephanie expands on her creative background and family connections to music and language  At about 10:15, Stephanie talks about formative and transformative texts, including work by and her relationship with her “spiritual madrina,” Sandra Cisneros At about 11:30, Stephanie discusses similarities and differences in some Mexican Spanish and Tejano Spanish At about 13:30, Stephanie provides seeds for her book At about 16:50, The two discuss a dearth of publicity and respect for female travel writers, and generally females writing about art At about 18:15, Stephanie talks about the formative artist residency in 2014 in India, at Nrityagram  At about 20:30, Stephanie responds to Pete’s question about Sheryl Oring’s inspiration for Stephanie’s creative life  At about 24:45, the two discuss “Art as Reconciliation” and Stephanie’s experiences in Rwanda with therapeutic theater and hard and painful and moving conversations and reconciliations  At about 29:05, Pete and Stephanie discuss post-dictatorship and art done in response to the House of the People in Romania At about 34:20, Stephanie and Pete discuss similarities between female artists around the world, as seen in Stephanie’s research and travels, regardless of economic status and country of origin; Stephanie cites “callings” at young ages At about 38:30, Wendy Whelan and her absolute “devotion” to art is discussed, as well as the ways in which domineering males have often abused and defamed artistic women At about 44:00, Bjork and Iceland’s masterful director Vilborg Davíðsdóttir and “Art as Revenge” are discussed  At about 48:55, Stephanie talks about the process of writing so personally At about 50:45, “Art as Medicine” and Stephanie’s journey with cancer and ideas of humor and sustenance are discussed, along with Stephanie being “revived” by sharing stories on a mini book tour At about 54:20, Havana Habibi and its resonance are discussed  At about 56:40, Sandra Cisneros as a “spiritual madrina” to Stephanie and so many others is discussed  At about 1:00:40, Stephanie expands on the “force” that is Mama Mihirangi and her connection to Maori and female liberation  At about 1:04:10, Ayana Evans and her performance and her subverting expectations of Black women are discussed, including the Loophole of Retreat At about 1:09:00, The two discuss “Art as Immoratality” and ideas of legacy and passing on creativity and art as so meaningful  At about 1:11:20, Stephanie reflect

Notes and Links to Kaila Yu’s Work       Kaila Yu is a singer, songwriter, former model, and freelance journalist for Rolling Stone, CNN, Glamour, and more.    She was formerly the lead singer for the all-Asian-American, female rock band Nylon Pink. Yu is also one of the founders of the jewelry/fashion line "Hello Drama" which is affiliated with the Nylon Pink band and style. Buy Fetishized: A Reckoning With Yellow Fever, Feminism, and Beauty   Kaila's Instagram   Review of Fetishized for The New York Times   At about 1:10, Kaila responds to Pete’s questions about feedback she has gotten on the book, and how she sees the book now, post-publication  At about 3:15, Pete asks Kaila to share background information on her reading and language life At about 4:45, Kaila talks about how writing as a profession developed and shouts out Minor Feelings by Cathy Park Hong and Melissa Febos and Roxane Gay’s greatness At about 7:05, Kaila talks about the catalysts for her writing her book, largely around the beginning of the Covid pandemic At about 10:20, Kaila talks about distinctions, or lack thereof, between “fetish” and preference  At about 11:45, Kaila and Pete discuss the book’s opening and hurtful and harmful comments towards Kaila, some in recent years  At about 13:20, Kaila reflects on “mainstreamed objectification” and an observation from the book that “objectification was better than invisibility” At about 16:35, the two discuss halting attempts at Asian representation in the 90s and early 2000s At about 18:10, Kaila discusses the evolution of Asian and Asian-American stars and their ability to “make their own lane” At about 19:05, Kaila talks about ideas of personal “diminish[ment]” growing up in comparison to media portrayals  At about 20:30, Kaila responds to Pete’s questions about the effects of Memoirs of a Geisha and perpetuation of harmful tropes At about 22:30, more examples of problematic representation of Asian women in pop culture and in Kaila’s schooling are discussed At about 23:00, Kaila talks about the evolution of “ABGs” At about 25:30, Kaila talks about the “groundbreaking” Joy Luck Club and also ways that it could have been better in minimizing stereotypes At about 26:30, Kaila gives background on the start of her pinup model, as well as how rife the industry is with sexualization and sexual crimes At about 27:45, Kaila gives background on a contemporary San Diego “modeling gig” agency that led to sexual crimes, showing how her experience was sadly not unique  At about 30:05, Kaila responds to Pete’s question about online and in-person hateful and misogynistic comments and how she and bandmates  At about 31:50, Kaila talks about she didn’t connect at the time, but does now, about how she dealt with traumas  At about 33:00, Shoutout to Allen Carr and his anti-smoking books At about 33:45, Pete asks Kaila about the pitfalls of fame, and her ceaseless battle to remove a defamatory video At about 35:35, Kaila talks about ideas of a "separation" and the impetus for her name change At about 36:40, The two discuss ideas of interchangeability and the history of blepharoplasty At about 38:50, Afong Moy and other exoticism and inhumane conditions for Asian women are discussed, and how this led to a sexualization of these women  At about 41:15, Kaila and Pete discuss some acting and entertainment highlights and struggles; included is some reminiscing about MySpace! At about 43:50, Kaila responds to Pete’s questions about the end of her music career and performing in multiple ways At about 45:15, Kaila talks about recent iterations of KPop and patriarchal and feminism in more current music  At about 46:55, Kaila reflects on positive feedback and the legacy involving Nylon Pink At about 47:10, Kaila talks Guns n Roses and “classic” songs and concerts At about 49:15, Kaila forecasts what she will be writing about in the future       You can now subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, and leave me a five-star

Notes and Links to Jeff Pearlman’s Work     Jeff Pearlman is the New York Times bestselling author of ten books. His subjects include the ’80s Los Angeles Lakers (Show­time), the 1986 New York Mets (The Bad Guys Won), the ’90s Dallas Cowboys (Boys Will Be Boys), and NFL legends Walter Pay­ton (Sweetness) and Brett Favre (Gunslinger). HBO adapted Showtime into the dramatic series Winning Time, produced and directed by Adam McKay. A former Sports Illus­trated senior writer and ESPN.com colum­nist, Pearlman is the host of the Two Writers Slinging Yang podcast and blogs regularly at jeffpearlman.com. Buy Only God Can Judge Me: The Many Lives of Tupac Shakur   Jeff's Website   NPR Coverage of Only God Can Judge Me: The Many Lives of Tupac Shakur At about 3:15, Jeff talks about writing against hagiography and how he doesn’t “bring bias” into his writing, whether about Tupac or sports At about 5:25, Pete compliments the structure of the book, as it examines each of the places that shaped Tupac’s life At about 5:55, Rapid-fire questions! *Best Tupac collab? Best movie role? At about 8:45, A beautiful shout-out to friend Curtis Dorsey and Jeff’s dad, Stan At about 10:20, Jeff shouts out some favorite lines from Tupac’s songs At about 10:50, Pete and Jeff discuss Tupac’s “layering songs” and wondrous laugh  At about 12:55, Jeff responds to Pete’s question about Jeff’s “in”/entry point for writing about someone who has been written about so much  At about 15:45, Jeff expands on writing his biography of Tupac as a type of "layering" and the importance of specificity   At about 17:00, Jeff talks about how interviewing 652 people for his Tupac book is actually something that “[he] is supposed to do” At about 19:55, Jeff reflects a bit on book promotion and book release  At about 21:25, Jeff shouts out Dusty Baker as “maybe the coolest human being who’s ever walked the planet” At about 22:20, Pete asks Jeff about Set Shakur’s quote that Tupac died “alone”; Jeff reflects on the “isolation” of fame  At about 24:00, Jeff talks about Suge Knight and his indifference and his intriguing story At about 25:45, Jeff talks about Tupac’s connection or lack thereof to the Mob Piru gang  At about 26:45, Pete gives an incomplete and rambling answer to the best Tupac song At about 28:10, Davonn Hodge and his mother reuniting due to great work by Jeff Pearlman and Michelle Soulli is discussed, as Jeff gives the background on the reunification  At about 30:20, Jeff gives background on Afeni Shakur’s hometown, Lumberton, NC, and he gives a shoutout to Howard Bryant’s book on Ricky Henderson At about 31:30, Jeff recounts a story about going to Lumberton to use the microfiche, but wound up seeing Tupac’s grave At about 32:10, Jeff gives background on Afeni Shakur’s amazing life and highlights her accomplishments and travails  At about 33:30, Jeff and Pete discuss “Dear Mama” as aspirational and the sadness of Afeni’s substance abuse and how Tupac dealt with this horrible disappointment and “trauma” At about 35:15, Jeff talks in awe of Afeni’s defending herself in the “Panther 21” trial At about 36:20, Jeff discusses Tupac’s name origins At about 37:45, Jeff responds to Pete’s question about Tupac’s dad Billy Garland and male role models At about 39:40, The two discuss horrible athletic performances in movies and Tupac’s unfortunate basketball shooting motion At about 41:00, Jeff gives some background on Tupac’s birth name At about 41:40, Jeff talks about the impression that New York made on Tupac, musically and personally At about 43:00, The two discuss Tupac’s time in Baltimore and at the Baltimore School for the Arts, and Tupac as an actor and singer; Jeff calls Baltimore his “favorite Tupac era” At about 45:10, The two talk about Tupac’s Baltimore time and struggles and how “shapeshifter” didn’t quite fit him At about 47:10, Jeff traces the Shakurs’ move to Marin City and connections to Geronimo Pratt and his family At about 48:15, Jeff shares

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Notes and Links to Shea Serrano’s Work         Shea Serrano is an American author, journalist, humorist, and former teacher. He is best known for his work with the sports and pop culture websites, The Ringer and Grantland, as well as his books, including The Rap Year Book, Basketball and Movies, all of which were The New York Times best-sellers. Buy Expensive Basketball   Shea Serrano's Wikipedia Page   Expensive Basketball Review and Interview for San Antonio Express   At about 2:00, Shea notes his accomplishments involving having multiple bestsellers as a Mexican-American writer At about 3:30, Pete remarks on the intensive research process that Shea undertook for this book and notes a possible “typo” At about 5:15, Shea responds to Pete’s question about which writers inspired him as a kid, and Shea transitions into talking about writing as an untapped career  At about 6:30, Shea gives background on how Chuck Klosterman’s work amazed him and inspired him to become a writer, as well as how Bill Simmons’ work proved aspirational for Shea At about 8:45, Shea responds to Pete’s question about what texts his middle-school students enjoyed, and he details some interesting lessons and points and connections he would teach, and Pete is surprised to learn that Shea taught science At about 10:40, Shea makes an interesting point about why he decided to teach science At about 11:35, Shea highlights his journey in knowing and working with Bill Simmons At about 13:35, Shea expands on the definition of the book’s title, Expensive Basketball At about 16:00, Shea details the chapter in the book about Tim Duncan At about 18:20, Shea talks about his chapter on Kobe Bryant and being “overcome with emotion” during Kobe’s last game At about 22:10, more about “Timmy” and all that could have been with the 2010s Oklahoma Thunder At about 23:20, Shea expands on “the coolest basketball player in the world” in Allen Iverson At about 26:05, Pete wonders about Sue Bird’s staying power, and Shea expands upon being drawn to the WNBA through the dynamic 2018 Playoffs At about 28:25, Pete and Shea discuss different types of trash talk and trash talk preferences At about 30:00, Shea waxes poetic about the “before” and “after” for Ajá Wilson   At about 34:45, the two discuss why and why not for Vince Carter’s dunk on Frederic Weis as the greatest dunk ever At about 36:05, Shea names his best dunk of all-time At about 36:40, Pete highlights a great dunk from Michael Jordan At about 37:30, the two stan Reggie Miller-both as a broadcaster and a player At about 40:00, Steph Curry’s “beautiful” shot is discussed, as well as his possible sunset as a beautiful player At about 41:30, Shea traces the incredible ending of the 2024 Olympics Basketball gold medal game and Curry’s   At about 43:35, Shea discusses the pain and pleasure of the book’s “Grail and Ghost Stories”  At about 44:35, Pete highlights the “Miscellaneous” chapter in the book, and Pete and Shea lament the horrors of Robert Horry’s dagger  At about 46:55, Pete complains about Jason Williams, despite his  At about 47:45, Shea responds to Pete’s questions about how to properly write about Shaq and his dominance, highlighting the ways in which even the greats talked about their awe of Shaq At about 51:25, The two discuss connections between the 1993 Charlotte Hornets and Steve Urkel, as well as the chapter about this team and its resonance  At about 54:00, The two reflect on the singlemindness of the greatest of the great At about 55:10, Pete hits Shea with some rapid-fire questions, and Shea responds with the “0.4 Seconds Game,” Derek Fisher hate, a controversial take on Drake’s “Forever,” “off-the-wall bars,” the best concerts he’s ever been to, and “Remember[ing] Some Guys”      You can now subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, and leave me a five-star review. You can also ask for the podcast by name using Alexa, and find the pod on Stitcher, Spotify, and on Amazon Music. Follow Pete on

Notes and Links to Myriam Gurba’s Work       Myriam Gurba is a writer and activist. Her first book, the short story collection Dahlia Season, won the Edmund White Award for Debut Fiction. O, the Oprah Magazine ranked her true-crime memoir Mean as one of the “Best LGBTQ Books of All Time.” Her recent essay collection Creep: Accusations and Confessions was a finalist for a National Book Critics Circle award for Criticism, and won the Lambda Literary Award for Bisexual Nonfiction. She has written for the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Harper’s Bazaar, Vox, and Paris Review. Her next book, Poppy State: A Labyrinth of Plants and a Story of Beginnings, published by Timber Press, is out today, October 21. Buy Poppy State: A Labyrinth of Plants and a Story of Beginnings   Myriam's Website   Los Angeles Daily News Review of Poppy State: A Labyrinth of Plants and a Story of Beginnings At about 1:50, Myriam discusses her mindset as the book is to be published, and she shares early feedback and reviews At about 4:05, Myriam talks about being inspired a bit by Borges’ short story collection, Labyrinths, and more so from mythologies for Mesoamerica and the Minotaur At about 5:20, Myriam defines an important term At about 6:30, Myriam talks about writing from the perspective of a child and connections to The Secret Garden At about 8:30, “halycon” talk! At about 9:20, Myriam talks about the book’s epigraph/opening saying, which comes from Myriam’s grandfather Ricardo Serrano Ríos, as well as an early message/challenge to the reader At about 12:30, Myriam responds to Pete’s questions about the differences between carefree childhoods and an encroaching world of homes and development, and nature being pushed aside At about 14:55, Myriam provides background on the book’s main locale, Santa Maria, and its changes in her lifetime At about 15:45, The two talk about “claiming” of land and “renaming” and its connection to colonization  At about 18:20, Myriam discusses "indigeneity imposed from outside” in relation to a profound quote Pete notes from the book At about 20:20, Myriam talks about Western terms and ideas that make it difficult to describe and document Chumash and other indigenous contemporary life and geographical boundaries  At about 22:15, Myriam shares the story from the book about Deborah Miranda and a young child’s shocked realization  At about 24:15, Pete notes some great puns, and Myriam expands on multiple meanings of “hoja” and connections between literacy and botany and the At about 26:05, Myriam talks about her use of The Santa Maria Times and its archive in building a history of the “settler town through the perspective of settlers”  At about 28:00, Myriam highlights Santa Maria-born Ida Mae Bochmann as an example of a certain time of progressive and colonizing woman  At about 30:20, Myriam reflect on the “communal garden” that was pre-European California At about 32:00, Pete and Myriam discuss the importance of paper and indigenous practices and priorities  At about 35:10, Myriam responds to Pete’s questions about how she balances the macro- and the micro-, the allegorical and literal At about 36:45, BARS At about 39:30, “allegorical memoir” and “botanical criticism” are two possible genres that Myriam imagines for her "kaleidoscopic" book; she also talks about her love of writing and solving puzzles At about 42:00, Corn talk! Myriam shares some frightening stories about encounters with Midwestern cornfields  At about 45:50, The two discuss a resonant homecoming scene  At about 47:10, Myriam reflects on how local travel and local appreciation inform her argument about “[our] homes hav[ing] multitudes” At about 48:45, The two discuss the humungous industry that is agriculture, and Myriam talks about focusing in on Santa Barbara County’s strawberry industry At about 51:30, Myriam talks about the history of Japanese-American farmers dispossessed by the internment camps of World War II At about 53:45, Myriam make

Notes and Links to Erin Somers’ Work       Erin Somers is a writer, reporter, and book critic based in the Hudson Valley. Her fiction, essays, and criticism have appeared in The New York Times Magazine, The New Yorker, The Paris Review, Esquire, GQ, The Nation, The New Republic, Best American Short Stories, and elsewhere. Her first novel, Stay Up With Hugo Best (2019), was a Vogue Magazine Best Book of the Year.      Her second novel, The Ten Year Affair, was named a most anticipated book by The New York Times, The Washington Post, Vulture, Bustle, LitHub, W Magazine, The Millions, Orion, and Our Culture, and a best book of the month by Apple Books and People Magazine. It is published by Simon & Schuster as of today, October 21. Buy The Ten Year Affair   Erin's Website   Erin on NPR All Things Considered New York Times Review of The Ten Year Affair   Erin's Book Tour/Events   At about 1:25, Erin talks about her mindset as Pub Day approaches on October 21 At about 3:20, Pete asks Erin about her relationship with reading and the written word At about 8:00, Erin discusses pivotal text and writers that cemented her love for reading and writing, including some GGMarquez classics read in a beautiful "ceremony" with her father  At about 9:50, Erin gives background on her foray into screenwriting and how her father encouraged her writing At about 11:15, Erin highlights “funny” writers like George Saunders, Lorrie Moore, and Sam Lipsyte as “approachable” in style and subject matter At about 12:40, Erin responds to Pete’s question about “exercising different parts of the brain” in writing fiction and nonfiction At about 13:15, Erin shouts out places to buy her book and outlines her book tour At about 15:25, Erin discusses the book’s seeds and the title’s provenance, and references how the book started out as a successful short story At about 17:30, The two discuss the book’s opening and the two main characters’ early alliance  At about 23:25, Erin describes how she worked to draw Elliott, Cora’s husband, as against archetype At about 25:00, Erin responds to Pete’s question about posing four main characters-two couples-so close to each other  At about 26:50,  At about 27:50, Pete and Erin stumble through some possible casting moves for a possible future movies At about 28:50, The two discuss the differing roles of the men and pregnant women, and the two fanboy/girl over Rachel Yoder’s Nightbitch At about 30:20, Pete wonders about Sam parrying the advances of Cora At about 31:30, Pete skirts plot spoilers in discussing the book’s parallel plotline and compliments the fact that the st At about 33:00, Erin discusses how the contrast between “banal reality” and the parallel world allowed her to have “fun” and “experiment with techniques” At about 34:00, Erin responds to Pete’s question about standing in judgment of Cora’s behaviors, and Erin brings up interesting points about professional and class mobility and dissatisfaction  At about 36:25, Elliott and Cora’s relationship is analyzed, with particular attention to Cora’s anxieties and Elliott’s loss that continues his depression At about 39:00, Pete asks Erin how she was able to “delicately” write about the Covid era  At about 41:35, Erin analyzes a telling quote by Jules, Sam’s wife, with regard to ideas of unhappiness, and the two discuss the physical proximity of the couples At about 43:00, Erin gives insight on an interesting dialogue full of lies at a joint 40th birthday party At about 44:10, Erin responds to Pete’s question about the families of Sam and Cora as “collateral damage” At about 46:40, Erin responds to Pete’s question about aging, with regard to Cora’s anxieties At about 48:30, The two discuss a meaningful dream sequence and ideas of freedom post-parenthood At about 51:10, Pete highlights some funny and resonant lines in the book, including a podcast about rope      You can now subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, and leave me a five-star review. Y

Notes and Links to Anthony Gedell’s Work       ANTHONY GEDELL writes from New Jersey publishing in Hobart, Poverty House, Variant, Revolution John, Punk Noir Magazine, and Bull. His debut novel, Love Lies in the Throes of Rhetoric, was released in October 2024. Buy Love Lies in the Throes of Rhetoric   Anthony's Instagram   Anthony’s Writing for Hobart Pulp   Video Review for Love Lies in the Throes of Rhetoric   At about 1:40, Pete and Anthony talk about inspirations for the podcast At about 3:00, Anthony talks about how teaching informs his writing, and vice versa, with observations on  At about 5:20, Anthony talks about being a concerted listener and always being cognizant of “getting into the room” of wonderful writers and writing conversations At about Anthony talks about the ways in which he and the book’s significance have evolved in the year since publication   At about 8:40, Anthony talks about ideas of “writing from comfortability" and  At about 9:40, Anthony responds to Pete’s question about what texts have resonated with his students, which includes a major shout out for Eli Cranor At about 13:00, Anthony highlights Of Mice and Men as one example of “high intensity emotion” that moves/interests readers  At about 14:50, Anthony cites Marlon James saying that “the new American novel is the crime novel” and talks about the “writer as journalist” in discussing ideas of writing dystopian in a dystopian world and “writing towards genre”  At about 20:10, Pete and Anthony discuss ideas of the continuity of writers and writing over the centuries  At about 25:00, Anthony expands on ideas of nihilism in contemporary society  At about 31:00, Pete reads the Ecclesiastes, Ch 9, Verse 4, the introduction for Love Lies in the Throes of Rhetoric At about 32:20, Anthony responds to Pete’s questions about the book’s opening and significance for the rest of the book At about 35:00, Anthony talks about lessons and questions brought out in Biblical passages At about 36:00, Pete responds to Anthony’s questions about how Anthony’s novel is evocative of Catholic/catholic themes At about 39:30, Anthony shares moving connections in real-life and in the novel and ideas of misery and tragedy and compassion  At about 43:40, the two discuss the “snare” trope and how Eudora has been seen in two ways by a lot of readers, and Anthony shouts out Light Years by James Salter-its beautiful sentences and the possibility of Nedra in Salter’s book as a “snare character” At about 48:50, The two connect meaningful scenes and quotes from the novel to memorable Scripture At about 49:50, Anthony responds to Pete’s musings about the interesting “too young to feel this old” after Pete rambles about a writing project that “got away” At about 52:40, Anthony references Conrad in talking about nihilism and hopelessness, particularly with regard to Trasc and Eudora, the book’s protagonists  At about 55:25, Pete compliments Anthony’s use of “snappy dialogue” and asks Anthony about ideas of impotence, especially as seen with Trasc and Eudora At about 1:00:15, Anthony details particular scenes and reflects on some meanings that come from the portraits of masculinity  At about 1:04:30, Trasc and his sensitive nature is discussed, and Anthony talks about   At about 1:06:30, Anthony talks cryptically and profoundly on the writing process for his novel and quotes a memorable line from Salter’s Light Years At about 1:09:30, Pete and Anthony stan Who’s Afraid of Virginia Wolff? and talk about the play’s “dialectical violence”   At about 1:12:00, Anthony reflects on his writing style and the place from which he writes and how boredom and “soccer dad” literature enervates  At about 1:14:50, a quote from the novel leads to the two dissecting David Foster Wallace’s work and its significance, and some texts that are thought to be overly celebrated   At about 1:18:00, Anthony reflects on dystopia, worldbuilding, and “collective human behaviors” and how the physical atm

Notes and Links to Ellen Birkett Morris’ Work        Ellen Birkett Morris is the author of Beware the Tall Grass, winner of the Donald L. Jordan Award for Literary Excellence, judged by Lan Samantha Chang, published by CSU Press. She is also the author of Lost Girls: Short Stories, winner of the Pencraft Award and finalist for the Clara Johnson, IAN and Best Book awards. Her fiction has appeared in Shenandoah, Antioch Review, Saturday Evening Post, and South Carolina Review, among other journals. She is a winner of the Bevel Summers Prize for short fiction. Morris is a recipient of an Al Smith Fellowship for her fiction from the Kentucky Arts Council.    Morris is also the author of Abide and Surrender, poetry chapbooks. Her poetry has appeared in The Clackamas Literary Review, Juked, Gastronomica, and Inscape, among other journals, and in eight anthologies. Morris won top prize in the 2008 Binnacle Ultra-Short Edition and was a finalist for the 2019 and 2020 Rita Dove Poetry Prize. Her poem “Abide” was featured on NPR’s A Way with Words. Her essays have appeared in The New York Times, Newsweek, AARP’s The Ethel, Oh Reader magazine, and on National Public Radio.    Morris holds an MFA in creative writing from Queens University-Charlotte. She attended the Kentucky Women Writers Conference on fellowship and teaches creative writing at The Virginia Piper Center at ASU in Tempe, Arizona and The Carnegie Center for Literacy and Learning in Lexington, Kentucky. Morris has spoken and taught at the 2018 Antioch Writers Workshop, 2019 Kentucky Women Writers Conference, 2022 Writer’s Block Festival and 2022 Louisville Book Festival. Buy Beware the Tall Grass   Ellen's Website   Review of Beware the Tall Grass from Heavy Feather Review  At about 3:40, Ellen responds to Pete’s question about receiving the Donald L. Jordan Award for Beware the Tall Grass At about 5:30, Ellen talks about the different resonance the book has a year plus after its publication; she highlights feedback from people with interesting comments about the continuing resonance of the Vietnam War At about 7:10, Ellen provides a summary of the novel At about 8:20, Ellen relays seeds for the book, particularly based on a NPR segment from 2014 At about 10:30, Ellen responds to Pete’s questions about any cynicism in exploring the stories of past lives’ remembrance, and she expands on how she dealt with the spiritual/reincarnation  At about 12:45, Pete and Ellen stan over Andrew Porter’s (Episode 294 guest) The Imagined Life At about 13:25, Ellen speaks beautifully of her mother as an “advocate”  At about 14:50, Ellen talks about how she put into practice the saying about “put your characters into trouble,” particularly with regard to Eve, one of two protagonists, and her mother  At about 16:05, The two discuss the exposition for main character and one of two narrators, Thomas, and how the loss of his horse affects him  At about 18:00, Ellen describes the agony in writing a particularly brutal and sad scene from the book At about 19:00, The two discuss Eve’s friend, Amy, and ideas of peace and tranquility  At about 20:00, Ellen reflects on the “hasty decision” pointed out by Pete, made by both Thomas in the novel and in real-life, for those who signed up for the army At about 21:30, Ellen talks about Dan in the novel and his family history that makes him act more logical even when the surreal comes out At about 23:00, The two discuss Thomas’ decision to enlist for Vietnam, and how it was perhaps subtly influenced by his father’s past service At about 24:00, We Were Soldiers Once and Young and Ellen’s uncle and soldiers' logs are cited as inspirations for Ellen’s writing At about 26:00, Pete lays out some of Charlie’s  At about 27:00, Ellen reflects on Carrie’s faith in Thomas’ coming back safe from Vietnam At about 27:40, The two reflect on connections in the novel to Tim O’Brien’s The Things They Carried At about 28:50, The two discuss two crises that bring m

Notes and Links to Nishant Batsha’s Work       Nishant Batsha is the author of the novel A Bomb Placed Close to the Heart (ecco/HarperCollins). Set between California and New York at the dawn of World War I, A Bomb Placed Close to the Heart is an expansive and poignant story of love, radical ambition, and intellectual rebirth—all drawn from a lost American history.   His first novel, Mother Ocean Father Nation (ecco/HarperCollins) was a finalist for 2023 Lambda Literary Award, longlisted for a 2023 Mark Twain American Voice in Literature Award, and named one of the best books of 2022 by NPR. It also won Honorable Mention in the prose category of the 2024 Association for Asian American Studies (AAAS) Book Awards.   He is currently at work on a third novel. This project has received monetary support from The de Groot Foundation and the New York State Council on the Arts.   Nishant holds a PhD in history from Columbia University where he was a Paul & Daisy Soros Fellow. He also works as a ghostwriter for public officials, CEOs, and leaders across various industries. Material he has ghostwritten has appeared in the New York Times and Politico, among other publications. He lives in Buffalo, NY with his wife and two children. Buy A Bomb Placed Close to the Heart   Nishant's Website   BookPage Review for A Bomb Placed Close to the Heart   Interview for Los Angeles Review of Books   At about 1:15, Nishant gives purchasing info for his novel At about 1:45, Nishant talks about his childhood connections to language and literature  At about 4:15, Nishant recounts how he began to embrace history and becoming a historian  At about 7:20, Nishant responds to Pete’s comments about connections between his main character Cora and him and other writers with regard to “the intoxication” of writing finding audience At about 9:20, Nishant talks about history and literature and “seeking out sameness”  At about 10:30, Nishant talks about being “so taken” by Marilyn Robinson’s Gilead At about 11:40, Nishant shouts out as writers who have thrilled and inspired him, including Sebald and Han Kang At about 14:30, Nishant reflects on Conrad’s Heart of Darkness At about 16:50, Pete asks Nishant about seeds for the book At about 19:00, Nishant lays out much of the work of M.N. Roy and Evelyn Trent, inspirations for the book’s protagonists, Indra and Cora At about 22:05, Nishant talks about research for his book At about 24:25, Pete lays out some of the book’s exposition At about 25:30, Nishant responds to Pete’s question about what draws Indra and Cora together  At about 28:10, Nishant reflects on the “in-betweeness” of Cora and how she connects to Indra At about 32:25, Nishant gives background on the Ghadar Party, which is so important in the novel At about 35:15, Nishant responds to Pete’s question about how Indra saw “action” and resistance  At about 38:40, Nishant outlines how he sees the novel as a sort of “parlor drama” At about 39:45, Nishant explains the significance of Indra receiving being called “cosmopolitan” as a compliment  At about 42:30, The two discuss the etymology of the term “cosmopolitan” At about 44:40, Pete and Nishant reflect on ideas of consumerism and creativity, and Nishant gives background on the real-life Rachel Crothers At about 46:25, The two discuss the contradictions of Dawson in the novel, based on David Starr Jordan and his views on anti-imperialism and eugenics  At about 49:40, the two reflect on the “strange and weird ideas” of the late 19th and early 20th centuries-a “heady time” and connections to the US military in the Philippines  At about 50:45, Scullion (based on John Osborne Varian) and his views of political and cultural change are discussed, in how the beliefs affect Indra At about 54:00, Nishant discusses ideas of class and caste in connection with Indra At about 58:15, Nishant traces the real-life connection between M.N. Roy and Bal Gangadhar Tilak At about 1:00:20, Nishant reflects on lies as a

Notes and Links to Nathan Thrall’s Work       Nathan Thrall is an American writer living in Jerusalem. In 2024, he received the Pulitzer Prize for General Nonfiction for A Day in the Life of Abed Salama. An international bestseller, it was translated into more than thirty languages, selected as a New York Times Book Review Editors’ Choice, and named a best book of the year by over twenty publications, including The New Yorker, The Economist, and Time. He is also the author of The Only Language They Understand. His reporting, essays, and criticism have appeared in the London Review of Books, The Guardian, The New York Times Magazine, and The New York Review of Books. He spent a decade at the International Crisis Group, where he was director of the Arab-Israeli Project, and has taught at Bard College.  Buy A Day in the Life of Abed Salama: Anatomy of a Jerusalem Tragedy   Nathan's Website   2021 The New York Review of Books Article: “A Day in the Life of Abed Salama”   At about 1:15, Nathan recounts the experience of winning the Pulitzer Prize, and notes the wonderful ways in which the book’s protagonists and others close to him have celebrated the achievement  At about 3:20, Nathan provides purchasing info and book details  At about 4:15, Nathan responds to Pete’s question about the added significance of the book being published on October 3, 2023, four days before a pivotal event At about 6:30, Nathan reflects on how “nothing [much] has changed” regarding the organizations (the “gatekeepers”) who cancelled events with him and Abed Salama, with perhaps more of these organizations digging in on standing with Israel At about 9:30, Nathan notes that “organized political money” is all on one side in the “corrupt political system” At about 12:35, Pete wonders about the “tail wagging the dog” regarding the voting public and the politicians, and Nathan expands upon the reasoning and details for this “gap” At about 14:35, Pete asks Nathan about seeds for the book, and about how the book speaks to the idea that the Israeli/Palestinian conflict did not start on October 7, 2023 At about 15:35, Nathan explains the apartheid and “walled ghetto” at the center of the book, and talks about how this ghetto is a microcosm for Israeli policy At about 18:30, Nathan responds to Pete’s questions about and admiration for his objective hand in writing the book At about 20:45, Pete sets the book’s exposition At about 21:45, Nathan notes the “striking” fact of talking to parents with their “unwarranted” guilt since the bus accident, in response to Pete wondering about Nathan’s broaching such a horrible topic with survivors At about 24:05, The two reflect on the innocence of youth as Nathan recounts the details of parents and family looking for their children and relatives after the bus accident At about 27:30, Nathan explains how just the telling of the basics of Abed’s story, including his odyssey just to find his son in the hospital, was to “tell of apartheid” At about 29:00, Pete compliments the ways in which Nathan’s tracing Abed’s childhood and youth and Nathan expounds on how the personal stories have the reader see “the world through [the character’s eyes]” At about 31:45, Nathan shares a recent experience that shows how life is micromanaged for Palestinians in Israel, revolving around a bridge crossing for Abed, his wife Haifa, and Nathan At about 34:45, Pete asks Nathan to explain the colored-permit system involving Palestinian ID cards and how the intifadas changed the processes, including for Abed At about 39:50, Pete and Nathan talk about different Palestinian cultural and political factions, as described in the book At about 40:30, Nathan explains “bypass roads” and the ways in which they represent Israeli control of Palestinians' lives; in so doing, he points out inaccuracies in the ways that democracy and Israel have often been linked  At about 47:35, Nathan expands on “fabric of life roads” and “sterile roads”-brutally racis

Notes and Links to Matthew Boedy’s Work        Matthew Boedy has written for many publications and authored three books. He's appeared on CNN and MSNBC and in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and other media outlets.    He has been a leader in faculty organizing since 2020 as president of the Georgia conference of the American Association of University Professors, a national higher education advocacy group.     He completed his Ph.D. in English in 2015 at the University of South Carolina where he also received in 2010 a master's in creative writing. He most prizes his bachelor's degree in journalism in 2001 from the University of Florida and his work at the campus newspaper, the Independent Florida Alligator.     He is a full professor of rhetoric at the University of North Georgia. He researches and writes about religious rhetoric, particularly in the last few years about the rise of Christian Nationalism.     Buy The Seven Mountains Mandate: Exposing the Dangerous Plan to Christianize America and Destroy Democracy     Matthew's Website   Matthew Speaks on WBUR’s “Here and Now” on The Seven Mountains Mandate   Article from Mother Jones: “His Book on Charlie Kirk Was About to Come Out. Then His Subject Was Murdered.   At about 1:50, Matthew responds to Pete’s question about “exercising different muscles” in writing fiction, academic, and journalism At about 3:15, Matthew gives information on his book-publisher, summary, etc. At about 5:00, Matthew gives background on the book’s title and subtitle in cover in response to Pete’s question about added resonance for the book since Charlie Kirk’s murder At about 8:25, Matthew responds to Pete’s question about what Matthew has learned about the Turning Point and Charlie Kirk’s influence as seen from outside the United States   At about 10:20, Matthew discusses seeds for the book At about 11:40, Matthew talks about why he wrote two Prefaces for the book, and how the 2024 Presidential Election was a huge turning point for Turning Point At about 12:45, Pete and Matthew trace the book’s opening timeline and its significance in tracing the history of the Seven Mountains Mandate  At about 13:55, Matthew summarizes the Seven Mountains Mandates and talks about Charlie Kirk’s “conversion” to the philosophy   At about 17:25, Matthew reflects on whether or not Charlie Kirk’s “religious fervor” was authentic and on his turn to Christian nationalism  At about 19:45, Matthew responds to Pete’s musings about the connection between “grifting” and Charlie Kirk’s career At about 21:00, Matthew talks about the connections between the prosperity gospel and the Seven Mountains Mandate At about 22:15, Pete lays out some of the book’s early writing on Project 2025, and Matthew expands on its connection to the mandate At about 23:30, Matthew emphasizes how the book is a lot about post-January 6 and connections to the “Mountain of Government" At about 24:10, Matthew talks about Bill Bright and Loren Cunningham and some early iterations of the mandate  At about 27:25, Sara Diamond's prescient writing on the mandates is discussed  At about 29:15, Pete uses a unique analogy to ask Matthew about the ideas of mandates, and Matthew makes a key point about the Mandate as being part of a “minority movement”  At about 32:10, Matthew reflects on Trump’s connection to the Mandate and the movement and mutual benefits At about 33:30, Pete and Matthew discuss a staggering stat about American’s beliefs in and knowledge of the Mandate At about 34:25, Matthew responds to Pete’s question about Charlie Kirk’s death and its influence on religious conversion and political engagement  At about 35:20, Matthew talks about Charlie Kirk’s role in fulfilling a hole for many millennials and Gen Z and young men, particularly with reradds to a religious direction and “finding [one’s] purpose] At about 36:45, Pete asks Matthew about ideas of nonengagement and engagement and connections to Christian fundamentalism  At

Notes and Links to Robert Paylor’s Work     Robert Paylor was paralyzed from the neck down during the collegiate rugby national championship after a spinal cord injury left him with a prognosis that he would never walk or move his hands again. Refusing to accept that fate, Robert embarked on an extraordinary journey of recovery, re-learning life’s most basic functions and defying the odds to walk again. Now an inspirational speaker and author, Robert shares his powerful story and the mental tools that helped him overcome quadriplegia with organizations worldwide. Through his keynote, Paralyzed to Powerful, Robert inspires audiences to conquer what “paralyzes” them and turn their adversity into triumph.    Buy Paralyzed to Powerful: Lessons from a Quadriplegic's Journey   Robert's Website   Book Coverage and Article about Robert’s Journey in The Guardian   Robert's TED Talk: "Lessons in resilience from a quadriplegic"    At about 2:25, Robert talks about the four-month journey since the book has been published At about 3:25, Robert responds to Pete’s question about how he endeavored to make his individual story universal and widely-relatable At about 4:35, Robert expands on the genesis of the book’s structure, and why he needed to balance storyline and reader takeaways At about 7:00, Robert reflects on the writing process and knowing when a writing project is done (or not) At about 10:45, Robert talks about seeds for the book, and ideas of what the plan is for his life At about 11:45, Robert details the injury that led to his paralysis At about 17:00, Robert talks about “controlling [his] mindset” upon being so severely injured  At about 21:15, Robert responds to Pete’s question about the incredible support and love shown by his brother and friends At about 23:45, Robert talks about a key turning point at age 12 in raising the level of his aggression and success in sports At about 26:50, Robert expands upon an interesting and inspirational idea in setting goals, “moving from right to left” At about 31:00, Robert shares how hard it was to write about such personal pain, catharsis, and how the phrase “no tears in the writer, no tears in the reader” informed his writing At about 33:50, Robert gives more detail on the idea of the “mental diet” and using it to help bring progress At about 34:45, Robert describes the “relief” provided for the reader and for Robert through an impromptu hospital visit by Bill Murray At about 37:15, Robert and Pete talk about underrated scenes and quotes from Forrest Gump, and Robert describes marathon viewings of the movie in the hospital and ideas of destiny and deeds At about 38:40, Robert remarks on the beauty and selflessness of Joyce Zuidema and Talon Bonnano and those who prayed for Robert, as he also reflects on ideas of inspiration and comparison  At about 43:10, Robert talks about “get to v. have to” as a paradigm for his recovery and inspiration At about 45:25, Robert responds to Pete’s question about not wanting to be referred to in certain ways regarding disabilities  At about 46:30, The two discuss the “fraternity” of rugby and wonderful mentors and friends and coaches At about 47:40, Robert reflects on ideas of forgiveness and the rage he felt and has felt after his injury was caused by an illegal move  At about 51:20, Robert expands on the ways in which USA Rugby “neglect[ed] their duties” and Coach Jack Clark and Robert’s family At about 53:45, Robert responds to Pete’s comments and the question of “how [he’s] overcome” versus “what [he’s] overcome” At about 55:55, Robert talks about ideas of failures and successes and living with “joy, positivity, and “purpose”      You can now subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts, and leave me a five-star review. You can also ask for the podcast by name using Alexa, and find the pod on Stitcher, Spotify, and on Amazon Music. Follow Pete on IG, where he is @chillsatwillpodcast, or on Twitter, where he is @chillsatwillpo1. You can wat

Notes and Links to Cynthia Miller-Idriss’ Work       Cynthia Miller-Idriss is the author of Hate in the Homeland: The New Global Far Right and Man Up: The New Misogyny and the Rise of Violent Extremism. She is an opinion columnist for MSNBC and writes for The New York Times, The Atlantic, Foreign Affairs, The Washington Post, Politico, USA Today, The Boston Globe, and more. Buy Man Up: The New Misogyny and the Rise of Violent Extremism   Cynthia's Website   At about 1:25, Cynthia talks about the run-up to Pub Day, and how it’s different than for her previous books At about 3:00, Pete asks Cynthia about the unfortunate “timeliness” of her work, especially the book At about 5:45, the two discuss seeds for the book, as Cynthia expands on the Turning Point Suffragist Museum and its history and importance At about 7:35, the two discuss the not-so-distant history of misogyny and Simone de Beauvoir, and rising "hostile sexism and misogyny” in the social media and outside world At about 9:55, Cynthia talks about the silence that often is pervasive regarding “gender policing” how misogyny must be central in more explorations of violence  At about 12:05, Cynthia shares some insightful and profound quotes from young people regarding gender norms and expectations At about 16:35, Pete and Cynthia discuss Eliot Rodger and a recent school shooter and the ways in which the “warning signs” were so numerous for a long period of time, but resources are often hard to tap into, even from well-meaning parents and adults and friends  At about 21:25, the two discuss The Death of Expertise and ideas of “alternative facts” and a pervasive lack of trust in “experts” and government At about 23:00, Cynthia responds to Pete’s noting that she purposely avoids naming past shooters At about 25:00, the two lay out the book’s structure  At about 24:25, Pete reports some eye-popping stats of misogynist violence  At about 26:05 Cynthia and Pete reflect on the profound quote from the book that contemporary girls have “more freedom but less power, and boys less freedom and more power” At about 24:40, Cynthia discusses masculinity/sexuality paradigm shifts  At about 29:35, Cynthia and Pete laugh and almost cry regarding fitness as being claimed by the masculine right, such as with jeans-clad RFK At about 30:35, the two reflect on the moral arc of the universe and disturbing trends with Gen Z men At about 32:20, Cynthia responds to Pete reflecting on Trump voters and his misogyny and fixed and demanding gender rigidity and policing  At about 34:15, Pete notes the “intersectionality” of Christian nationalism and masculinity, and Cynthia expands on the adherents’ beliefs At about 36:15, the two discuss ideas of “containment” and visceral hatred and misogyny in hate email and chants and lashing out at women  At about 37:20, Cynthia talks about the data that charts female elected officials and hateful attacks, including from online vitriol and memes At about 39:35, Cynthia talks about people downplaying and excusing male behavior  At about 40:55, More discussion of women needing to be in the home/domestic sphere and women as a “safety net” in parts of the West, especially in the US, even up to Taylor Swift At about 42:30, Cynthia uses an anecdote from Sonia Sotomayor’s confirmation to illustrate racist/sexist policing of women and women of color At about 44:50, “bonding through slurs” and online gaming’s influence on misogyny and young men is discussed At about 48:30, The two discuss some stunning (or not) numbers about the way Andrew Tate is viewed At about 49:35, Cynthia responds to Pete’s question about what sets Andrew Tate apart  At about 52:10, Scapegoating of sexual and racial minorities is discussed, and the “spiral” of keeping children safe and QAnon, anti-vax, etc. At about 54:40, Cynthia responds to Pete asking about possible remedies in her book, and how one avoids “preaching” in talking to those who have been radicalized online and off At about