Teko Bailey sits down with Dove Award–nominated writer and producer Derek Winkley for a conversation about obedience, identity, and trusting God when progress feels slow or unseen. With a background rooted in church music and jazz, Derek brings a rare perspective shaped by creativity, faith, and leadership. In this episode, he shares openly about seasons where following God did not lead to immediate clarity or visible results, and how faithfulness in those moments quietly reshaped his identity and calling. They talk about the tension many men carry, doing the right things while feeling uncertain, overlooked, or stretched thin. They talk about resilience formed in hidden seasons, the pressure to perform, and why obedience still matters even when outcomes are delayed. This episode is for men who are still showing up, still trusting, and still walking forward—even when the road ahead feels unclear. (00:00) When obedience feels costly (02:18) Derek’s musical and faith foundation (06:10) Creativity, calling, and pressure (10:54) Faithfulness without immediate outcomes (16:40) Identity under prolonged waiting (22:58) Resilience formed in hidden seasons (29:45) Community, collaboration, and purpose (36:20) Trusting God beyond visibility (44:05) Encouragement for the in-between Derek Winkley is a Dove Award–nominated pop, R&B, gospel, and Christian writer and producer with Integrity Music. He has worked with artists across genres including Blessing Offor, Rachael Lampa, Social Club Misfits, Tedashii, Liz Vice, Jonathan Traylor, Steven Malcolm, Canon, Jaguar Wright, Ghost-Note, and members of the Miles Davis Band. His work has appeared on major stages and platforms such as the BET Awards, Dove Awards, Passion Conference, Essence Festival, K-LOVE Fan Awards, Good Morning America, and The Jennifer Hudson Show. Website: https://derekwinkley.com/ Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he is building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention—especially through seasons of pressure and waiting. Instagram: @IamTekoBailey Website: https://www.tekobailey.com Production, Distribution, and Marketing by MassifKrooSponsorship Inquiries: hello@MassifKroo.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Teko Bailey interviews violinist and innovator Tracy Silverman about two things: parenting without control and keeping string music relevant today. Tracy says you can’t force kids to become who you want—push them and they push back. His goal as a parent and teacher is to help people find their “North Star,” what they truly care about. Tracy shares how he started young, making his pro debut at 13 with the Chicago Symphony, helped by his dad’s long weekly drives for lessons. He then explains his work with the six-string electric violin and “strum-bowing,” a groove-based style inspired by guitar. He argues strings got stuck in a narrow classical lane while other instruments evolved into jazz and rock, and he believes strings must expand into modern styles or risk becoming irrelevant. He also talks about raising four kids through tough challenges and the career risk of leaving the traditional classical path after Juilliard. His takeaway on parenting is simple: letting go over time, so kids can make mistakes and still feel safe coming home. He ends by encouraging listeners to try unfamiliar music more than once, shares where to learn his method, and previews an upcoming project: DBR’s “America to Us,” with performances planned in Oakland in February and Carnegie Hall in October next year. CHAPTERS (00:00) Stop controlling kids(01:28) Welcome + early career(02:44) Dad’s sacrifice for lessons(05:44) Six-string electric violin(07:33) Wanting to play “now” music(12:39) Strum-bowing explained(16:09) Hard seasons and music(25:48) Leaving Juilliard lane(30:32) Parenting: lose the ego(42:53) Programs + what’s next ABOUT TRACY SILVERMAN Tracy Silverman is a violinist, composer, and educator known for pioneering the six-string electric violin and developing strum-bowing, a groove-based approach that helps string players perform contemporary styles like rock, funk, and improvisational music. Trained in classical tradition and a Juilliard graduate, he’s spent decades commissioning and performing new works for electric violin while teaching modern techniques to traditionally trained players. His education platform includes books and an online academy focused on rhythm-first string playing. Books/Methods: The Strumbowing Method: How to Groove on Strings The Rhythm String Player: Strumbowing in Action Online: Strumbowing Groove Academy (strumbowinggrooveacademy.com) Upcoming Work: Premiere of America to Us by Daniel Bernard Roumain (DBR), including performances with the Oakland Symphony and a Carnegie Hall premiere next year. ABOUT TEKO BAILEY Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Climb, Teko Bailey sits down with worship artist and nurse practitioner Dimas Cortez to talk about faith that holds up under pressure, the long road to identity, and what it looks like to keep serving God when your home life is chaotic. Dimas traces his story from learning piano as a teenager after getting plugged into church—despite not coming from a musical family—to slowly building a catalog of songs over the last four to five years by releasing singles with intention. He explains why he keeps coming back to Christian pop: it is joyful, honest, and built to carry truth in a form people will actually replay. From there, the conversation turns raw. Dimas shares growing up with a father battling alcoholism and schizophrenia, and what it meant to step in and protect his mother and family in moments that should have never been his responsibility. He talks about doubt, trauma, and the hard choice to keep trusting God anyway—learning what perseverance really costs. That pain becomes part of his theology and his music, including the story behind his song “Priceless,” written as a reminder that the Creator of everything still chose the cross, which makes the listener’s worth non-negotiable. The second half expands the picture: Dimas is also a nurse practitioner serving in a community health center, in the same kind of underserved system his family once relied on. He explains how music and medicine overlap—how a song can shift a room, how prayer can bring calm, and how hope can be clinical as much as it is spiritual. He closes with practical direction for men trying to find purpose: put God first, find mentorship, build accountability, break cycles, and take the first step even if your confidence is not ready yet. CHAPTERS (00:00) Trauma, faith, and meaning (01:07) Welcome + “Priceless” intro (01:12) Why he releases singles (02:01) Church spark, piano start (03:25) Finding his sound and lane (04:21) Writing “Priceless” (06:15) Dad’s illness, fear, and doubt (11:02) Patience built by trials (13:32) Identity, mentors, accountability (17:35) Medicine + music as care (26:39) Next song + take the step ABOUT DIMAS CORTEZDimas Cortez is a Christian artist, songwriter, and nurse practitioner whose work sits at the intersection of worship, identity, and healing. He began learning piano as a teen after getting connected to church, later returning to school for music to develop his voice and musicianship. Over the past several years, he’s steadily released new music—often choosing singles to give each message time to land. His song “Priceless” centers on God as Creator and Savior, connecting cosmic power to personal worth. Outside of music, Dimas serves as a nurse practitioner in a community health center supporting underserved patients—work that hits close to home, since his own family relied on similar services growing up. He is passionate about mentorship, accountability, and helping people break destructive cycles through faith, support, and practical action. Listen to Priceless IG: (@dimas_cortez) Youtube: Dimas Cortez ABOUT TEKO BAILEY Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Climb, Teko Bailey sits down with coach and educator Cam Hall to talk about fatherhood, health, and the cost of trying to be “the fit guy” while everything else in your life is on fire. Cam traces his story from growing up in poverty in small-town Canada—with a dad who worked constantly, a mom running split shifts at a coffee shop, and a teenage job in the back of that same restaurant—to the quiet acts of generosity that changed his life. He shares how a cook named Nora secretly fed his family, paid his high school tuition, and opened doors that led to college basketball, teaching, and leadership. All of this was unfolding while he wrestled with identity, responsibility, and what it meant to become a man without a highly present dad at home. From there, the conversation moves into marriage, kids, and the slow slide into the classic “dad bod” and hidden burnout. Cam talks about extreme dieting, body image, and how becoming a new dad added 28 pounds, stress, and shame to a life already running hot. He explains how a chance encounter with mentor Mark McDonald reframed food as fuel instead of punishment, and how Fight the Dad Bod was born. Then he gets honest about the panic attacks, middle-of-the-night collapse, and doctor-ordered three-month shutdown that forced him to shut his business down and sit in silence. Out of that came a different mission: helping men prioritize health without ego, build “family teams” where everyone carries the load, and find brotherhood instead of dying in isolation. CHAPTERS (00:00) Mom’s cancer & identity crisis (05:10) Growing up poor & owning duty (10:02) Nora’s kindness, work, and tuition (15:40) Becoming a dad without a model (20:55) “If you see it, do it” at home (25:35) Marriage as a true family team (31:20) From fit guy to dad bod spiral (37:45) Collapse, panic, and shutdown (43:50) Redefining Fight the Dad Bod (49:30) Brotherhood, health, and legacy ABOUT CAM HALL Cam Hall is a husband, father, educator, and men’s coach based in Alberta, Canada. Raised in a small town after his parents left the city for financial reasons, Cam grew up in a loving but stretched home—dad on long construction commutes, mom working split shifts at a coffee shop, and Cam carrying early responsibility for his two younger brothers. A teenage job in that same restaurant became a turning point when the head cook, Nora, quietly mentored him, taught him to cook, slipped “mistake” pizzas to his family, and later paid his high school tuition—opening the door to collegiate basketball, university, and a career in education. After years as a teacher and vice principal, Cam’s own health story took center stage: yo-yo dieting, the dad bod, and eventually panic attacks and a collapse that forced him into a three-month reset. Out of that season, he rebuilt his approach to health and leadership, founding Fight the Dad Bod and the Dads Making a Difference podcast and community. Today, Cam helps men burn fat and reclaim their energy, but more importantly, step into their roles as husbands, fathers, and leaders with presence, integrity, and a strong “family team” culture at home. Website: https://www.fightthedadbod.com/ Podcast: Dads Making a Difference Podcast IG: @dadsmakingadifference ABOUT TEKO BAILEY Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Climb, Teko Bailey sits down with Dr. John Murray—educator, researcher, musician, husband, father, and soon-to-be grandfather—to talk about late blooming, father wounds, and building a life of purpose when your early years feel like chaos. John traces his journey from a rough neighborhood in eastern Canada, where crime and low expectations were normal, to being the “bookish” kid who escaped through libraries and a free public-school music program that changed the trajectory of his life. All of this unfolded while he watched his father slowly disappear into alcoholism, psychiatric hospitals, and chronic illness, leaving a deep ache for a father figure he never really found. From there, the conversation moves into academic life, divorce, and the slow, often painful work of becoming who you actually are. John talks about being a “lag behind” who didn’t land a stable career until 32, using academia as both sanctuary and avoidance, and the guilt of leaving a failing marriage with three young children. He shares how meeting the woman he first saw at 23—then rediscovering her 25 years later—became the turning point that finally let his life “flower.” John and Teko dig into red flags men ignore in relationships, the pressure to hide our wounds, why leadership has always intimidated him, and how vulnerability—our scars, not our image—is what truly equips men to serve, heal others, and live the final “grand cycle” of life with integrity. CHAPTERS(00:00) Growing up rough & feeling different(05:12) Seasons, cycles, and late blooming(10:05) Music school as escape & calling(15:40) Father wounds & searching for mentors(21:18) Turbulent teens, study as sanctuary(27:02) Divorce, leaving & rebuilding life(33:40) Finding love again, blending a family(40:22) Choosing wisely: red flags in dating(46:05) Reluctant leader, learning to serve(52:10) Vulnerability, wounds, and healing men About Dr. John MurrayDr. John Murray is a retired educator, researcher, and musician based in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Raised in a tough neighborhood in London, Ontario, he was the bookish kid who escaped through libraries and a rigorous public-school music program that gave him 11 years of formal musical training. After starting his career as a high school science and math teacher in the late 1980s, John went on to complete advanced study in the history and philosophy of science and build an academic career in Canadian universities. He eventually spent a decade teaching and conducting research in a college of pharmacy and at the University of Manitoba’s medical school, where he continues to hold a research appointment in retirement. A self-described “late bloomer,” John didn’t secure a stable professional foothold until his early 30s, and his adult life has included divorce, remarriage, and blending a family of five adult children. Today, he divides his time between research, music, and service—committed to using his experience, wounds, and hard-earned wisdom to help men navigate purpose, fatherhood, and the later “grand cycles” of life. About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing by ⁠⁠⁠⁠MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Climb, Teko Bailey sits down with Air Force veteran, medic, recruiter, and mortgage loan officer Don “The Mortgage Medic” Hecker to talk about fear, surrender, and what it means to be a present father when life spins completely out of control. Don walks through the day he thought he was flying to Miami for a bodybuilding show and gender reveal—and instead found himself racing his pregnant wife to the ER, hearing doctors say they might lose one, if not both, of the people he loved most. The flight back to California without his wife and newborn daughter became the hardest goodbye of his life, harder than any deployment to the Middle East or Africa. He retraces the path from almost joining the Army pre-9/11, to serving sixteen years as a medic in the Air Force, to becoming a recruiter on the streets of South Chicago. Along the way, mentors, leaders, and his church community shaped how he responds to crisis. When Sasha’s blood pressure spiked into the 220s and a placental abruption forced a 30-week emergency C-section, Don was forced to confront the illusion of control head-on and choose where to turn: into fear, or into Jesus. Posting a simple request for prayer before walking into the OR became, for him, the moment God handed him an “umbrella” in the middle of the storm. From there, the conversation moves into fatherhood, community, and what Don calls the three Ps: patience, prayer, and presence. He talks about 58 days in the NICU, two months living apart from his wife and daughter while the Air Force pulled him back to California, and how church friends carried them with meals, prayer, and practical support. Don reframes kids not as “baggage,” but as a heavy toolbox—weight you carry because there are tools inside you will need later. He and Teko connect that vision of fatherhood with identity in Christ, everyday choices to be present, and the responsibility to teach children who they are before the world tells them who to be. CHAPTERS(00:00) Hardest goodbye: leaving family(04:08) From Foot Locker to Air Force(06:49) Miami trip turns emergency(10:42) Preeclampsia and emergency C-section(21:14) NICU life and military support(25:05) Rooted: church as lifeline(32:27) Fatherhood after the NICU(38:44) Encouraging fathers in struggle(43:20) The three Ps: patience, prayer, presence(45:33) Helping families own a home About Don HeckerDon Hecker is an Air Force veteran, former medic and recruiter, and now a mortgage loan officer helping families navigate the path to homeownership. Over sixteen years in the Air Force, he served across the globe and later recruited on the South Side of Chicago. His most defining season came in 2019, when his daughter Camila was born at 30 weeks after a medical emergency that nearly cost him his wife and child, followed by 58 days in the NICU. That experience, and a second high-risk pregnancy with his younger daughter Gianna, reshaped his understanding of faith, fatherhood, and presence. Today, Don uses that same calm under pressure to educate veterans, first-time buyers, and families on how to build stability and generational wealth through owning a home. Instagram: Donald Hecker (@don_themortgagemedic)About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing by ⁠⁠⁠MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of The Climb, Teko Bailey sits down with contemporary gospel musician and worship leader Theo Milford to talk about fear, obedience, and finally stepping into your calling. Theo shares the honest backstory behind releasing his debut album after nearly two decades of writing songs in private. Turning 40 gave him a jolt: he realized that leaving his music trapped on a phone voice note would be a quiet form of disobedience. The conversation hits the core tension many people live with—knowing you’ve been given something to carry, but sitting on it because of anxiety, timing, or doubt. Theo walks through his upbringing in a pastoral home where music and worship were daily life, then traces his path from singing in groups to leading worship and developing his own material. He breaks down what changed for him over time: his focus moved from “Did I perform this right?” to “Was I obedient?” That shift reframed nerves, leadership pressure, and even the way he understands success. The two also dig into rest and mental overload. Theo explains how his song “Sabbath” came from the lived relief of a weekly reset—stepping out of toil and re-centering on God and family. They connect the dots between anxiety in modern life and neglecting rhythms of rest that are both practical and spiritual. From there, the conversation moves into fatherhood, community, and discernment—how to build a small but trustworthy circle, and how prayer shapes decision-making when not everyone around you has your best interests at heart. This episode is for anyone who has been sitting on a gift too long, anyone wrestling with fear masquerading as wisdom, and anyone who needs a reminder that obedience creates ripple effects far beyond you. CHAPTERS (00:00) Fear, obedience, turning 40 (01:19) Who Theo is today (02:41) Growing up in church music (03:57) Learning to lead worship (04:39) Obedience over performance (06:38) Why he wrote “Sabbath” (08:46) Rest, anxiety, and modern life (11:08) Fatherhood and priorities (14:28) Encouraging men to step out (16:45) Debut album details (18:19) Staying grounded as a leader (19:23) Community and discernment (23:51) Favorite track and closing About Theo Milford Theo Milford is a contemporary gospel musician, worship leader, and songwriter based in the Washington, D.C. area. Raised in a pastoral home, he has led worship for nearly two decades across churches and music collectives. After years of writing in private, he is releasing his debut album, Altars and Answers, a 12-track project shaped by scripture, lived experience, and a renewed commitment to obedience. His work includes songs like “Sabbath” and “Rest,” centered on devotion, renewal, and hope. Website: theomilfordmusic.com YouTube: Theo Milford About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing by ⁠⁠MassifKroo.com⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When life forces you to grow up fast, grit becomes part of your DNA. In this episode of The Climb, Teko Bailey sits down with entertainer, storyteller, and cultural voice Lanai Tabura to trace the journey from a pineapple field on Lānaʻi to award-winning media creator. Raised in poverty by a single mother, shaped by back-breaking plantation work, radio hustle, and the responsibility of cooking for his brothers at age twelve, Lanai’s story is a case study in resilience. He unpacks the realities of growing up without a father, why hardship became his greatest teacher, and how the plantation generation built the foundation of Hawai‘i’s modern culture. From picking pineapples in 120-degree fields, to building one of Hawai‘i’s most influential radio stations, to hosting global food shows and winning Emmys, Lanai shows how a tough childhood forged the discipline, drive, and creativity that fuel his work today. Lanai and Teko dive into the pressures of entertainment, the evolution of island music, and the science behind radio that most people never hear about. He talks candidly about fatherhood, the weight of modeling healthy communication, and why telling your kids “I love you” can change the trajectory of their lives. They explore the responsibility of carrying ancestral stories, the importance of cultural preservation, and how travel, food, and storytelling became his way of honoring the people who raised him. This episode is for anyone grinding their way forward, anyone pulled between culture and ambition, and anyone who needs to remember that tough beginnings don’t disqualify you—they shape you. CHAPTERS (00:00) Why Hard Work Built His Life (03:00) Growing Up Poor on Lānaʻi (06:00) Pineapple Fields, Pain, and Grit (09:30) Plantation History and Hawai‘i’s Melting Pot (12:30) Radio Beginnings at Sixteen (15:00) Music, Artists, and Building Island 98.5 (18:40) Family, Fatherhood, and Modeling Love (22:10) Anthony Bourdain, Food, and Storytelling (25:00) Creating Shows and Global Travel (28:10) Preserving Culture and Helping Local Businesses (31:00) Success, Responsibility, and What Matters Now About Lanai Tabura Lanai Tabura is an Emmy Award–winning producer, radio host, actor, culinary storyteller, and creator of Cooking Hawaiian Style, now in its 22nd season. Born and raised on the island of Lānaʻi, he has built a multi-decade career in television, radio, travel media, and food culture. His work includes The Great Food Truck Race, documentaries such as Ramen Yokocho, TV hosting across Asia, and pioneering the launch of Island 98.5, one of Hawai‘i’s most influential island-reggae stations. Lanai’s passion is preserving Hawai‘i’s culture through food, travel, and storytelling while helping local artists and businesses thrive. Instagram: @lanaitabura About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing by ⁠MassifKroo.com⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When your worth is defined by applause, platforms, and pressure, worship can quietly turn into performance. In this episode of The Climb, Teko Bailey sits down with worship leader and songwriter Keagan Denney to talk about what happens when you strip all that away and make it only about Jesus. Raised under a piano in Pasadena, Texas, shaped by a ministry family, and refined through loss, financial strain, spiritual warfare, and grief, Keagan shares how God turned his love for music into a call to minister. From planting a church in Nashville and losing critical funding overnight, to walking through the death of his grandfather and a dark battle with depression, Keagan opens up about the moments that forced him to decide whether his identity was built on feelings, followers, or the presence of God. He talks about the night God ripped depression out of his life, the power of the secret place, and why real freedom starts when you stop accepting every label the world tries to put on you. Together, Keagan and Teko confront the noise of social media, self-diagnosis culture, and trends in the worship industry, and call worship leaders—and anyone listening—back to clean motives, holy confidence, and the truth that in Christ you are intentionally designed, fearfully and wonderfully made, and priceless in His eyes. This episode is for those leading from the platform, serving in the shadows, or fighting in private, who need a reminder that it is not about perfection, it is about presence. CHAPTERS (00:00) Heart for Worship Over Applause (03:00) From Pasadena Roots to Ministry Call (06:00) Church Planting, Loss, and God’s Care (09:00) Legacy, Alaska, and Time That Shapes You (11:30) Depression, Identity, and Meeting God (15:30) Social Media Noise vs. Priceless Worth (20:40) Worship Leading Without Performance (23:00) Secret Place, David, and Real Authority (25:10) New Music, Identity Album, Global Burden (28:26) Bold Faith in a Confused World About Keagan DenneyKeagan Denney is a worship leader, songwriter, and recording artist recognized as a collaborating artist at the Canadian Sila Music Awards and featured on the single “Priceless” with Dimas Cortez. Raised in a ministry home and shaped by years of hands-on church and worship experience, his heart is to write songs that carry the presence of God, confront counterfeit narratives of worthlessness, and call a generation back to its true identity in Christ.Instagram: @kaegan_music About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing by MassifKroo.com Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When tragedy strikes, it tests everything you believe about yourself, your faith, and your purpose. In this episode of The Climb, Teko Bailey sits down with Greg Boyd—founder of Vienna Waits—to unpack how he rebuilt his life after losing his wife, Allison, to glioblastoma at just 34. From the depths of grief and fatherhood through COVID, Greg learned to live intentionally, parent with compassion, and build a new life rooted in gratitude and action. He opens up about his journey from anxiety and high-performance culture in the tech world to discovering the healing power of presence, therapy, community, and purpose. Greg shares how therapy gave him the tools to face grief head-on, why men must take off their “hero” armor to heal, and how post-traumatic growth reveals strength you never knew you had. Together, he and Teko explore what it means to live in alignment with your true self—and why taking action, not waiting for the “right time,” is the first step toward freedom. Chapters 00:00 – Start Before You’re Ready: The Power of Action 02:00 – From Tech Executive to Turning Point 04:45 – The Diagnosis That Changed Everything 06:50 – Grieving Through COVID and Chaos 09:00 – Tools for Survival: Therapy, Journaling, and Mindfulness 10:30 – Post-Traumatic Growth and Finding Strength in Suffering 13:00 – The Role of Community and Friendship in Healing 15:00 – Rebuilding Love and Family After Loss 17:00 – Parenting Through Grief and Acceptance 20:00 – Letting Go of the Hero Complex 23:00 – Therapy Lessons: Telling the Truth to Your Kids 26:00 – The Backpack Metaphor: How Men Carry Emotional Weight 30:00 – Finding Purpose After the Storm 33:00 – Building Vienna Waits: Helping Others Live Intentionally 37:00 – Gratitude, Action, and Redefining Success 41:00 – Lessons in Fatherhood, Faith, and Fearlessness 49:00 – How to Get Unstuck and Start Living with Purpose About Greg BoydGreg Boyd is the co-founder of Vienna Waits, an organization dedicated to helping people live more intentionally and find purpose through action. A former tech executive turned speaker and coach, Greg’s life changed forever after losing his wife, Allison, to brain cancer in 2020. Through his experiences of grief, growth, and healing, he now empowers others to pursue meaning beyond success. Website: vienna-waits.comInstagram: @vienna_waits_studioLinkedIn: Greg Boyd About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing: Massif Studio & Production Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠massifsp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Massif Studio & Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Tallawah Group Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tallawahworldwide.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Tallawah Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Gospel artist and worship leader Noel Robinson has spent more than three decades shaping the sound of modern worship across continents. From touring with legends like Ron Kenoly and Graham Kendrick to leading revival through his latest album Change the Atmosphere, Noel’s story is one of obedience, refinement, and faith tested in the fire. In this conversation with Teko Bailey, Noel unpacks what it means to say “yes” to God’s call—even when it means turning down worldly success. He reflects on the moment the Holy Spirit told him no to a life-changing opportunity, only to open doors that aligned with his true purpose. Together, they explore what prophetic destiny really means, the cost of obedience, and the courage required to walk in faith when the outcome is unknown. From the passionate worship of his Jamaican roots to his global ministry, Noel reveals how God tempers and strengthens His servants through seasons of testing. He shares lessons on fatherhood, legacy, revival, and how worship is more than a song—it’s a lifestyle of revelation and response. His message to this generation is clear: revival isn’t coming; we are the revival. Chapters 00:00 – The Call of Prophetic Destiny 02:19 – Change the Atmosphere: Creating a “Jesus Album” 05:07 – The Sound of Revival in Worship and the Earth 07:19 – From Classical Training to Calling in Worship 09:31 – When God Says No: The Test of Obedience 12:24 – Mentorship, Ministry, and Spiritual Temperature 14:10 – Faith Beyond Earthly Success 17:04 – God’s Timing and the Refinement of Purpose 19:25 – Bridging Generations Through Worship 21:01 – Encounters, Instruction, and True Revival 23:40 – The Spirit of Prophecy and the Sound of the Church 25:34 – Breaker of Chains: Revival in the Modern Age 27:33 – Worship as a Lifestyle and Kingdom Expression 29:25 – Finding Purpose and Hearing God’s Voice 31:00 – Gifts, Calling, and the Blueprint of Destiny 33:13 – Kingdom Influence and Cultural Barriers 37:09 – Faith, Fatherhood, and the Cost of the Call 40:22 – Touring Change the Atmosphere and the Message of Salvation 43:11 – Taking Back What the Enemy Stole 46:38 – Legacy, Loss, and Worship as Healing 47:49 – Prayer for Revival, Healing, and Renewal About Noel RobinsonNoel Robinson is an award-winning British worship leader, songwriter, and recording artist with more than nine albums to his name. Known for his fusion of gospel, rock, and prophetic worship, he has served as music director for Ron Kenoly, Graham Kendrick, and numerous global ministries. His latest album, Change the Atmosphere, calls the Church to rediscover its power and authority in Christ through worship and revival. Instagram: @noelrobinsonukYouTube: Noel RobinsonSpotify: Noel RobinsonWebsite: noelrobinson.com About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing: Massif Studio & Production Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠massifsp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Massif Studio & Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Tallawah Group Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tallawahworldwide.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Tallawah Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bret Green’s journey is one of fatherhood, growth, and courage. Known to millions as Dad Got Bars, his mix of music, honesty, and humor is reshaping how men talk about parenting and masculinity. Before becoming a viral voice for modern dads, Bret built a Hollywood career with roles in The Inspectors, How to Get Away with Murder, Stalker, and The Goldbergs. But it was fatherhood—not fame—that gave his life deeper meaning. In this conversation with Teko Bailey, Bret opens up about showing up fully for his kids, the humility of early fatherhood, and learning patience and purpose while home with his newborn daughter. Together, they unpack the real challenges men face—ego, expectations, and healing from absent or distant fathers—while exploring how to break generational cycles with empathy and shared responsibility. Bret’s reflections on marriage, the song “Child Support,” and supporting his wife through postpartum depression reveal a man intent on building a new model of love. His message is simple but profound: real strength is found in vulnerability, and fatherhood is sacred work. Chapters 00:00 – A Challenge for Fathers: Presence, Respect, and Connection 02:05 – From Hollywood to Fatherhood: Rediscovering Purpose 03:36 – Breaking Generational Patterns in Parenting 05:44 – The Modern Dad: Empathy, Balance, and Shared Responsibility 07:12 – Losing and Reclaiming Identity in Early Fatherhood 09:00 – Lessons in Worth, Friendship, and Being Present 11:14 – Healing Father Wounds and Modeling Healthy Love 17:34 – Marriage, Commitment, and the Song “Child Support” 27:43 – Honoring Women: Postpartum, Partnership, and Support 33:34 – Reinvention, Legacy, and the Power of Vulnerability About Brian Doerksen Bret Green, known as Dad Got Bars, is an actor, recording artist, and content creator redefining modern fatherhood through storytelling and music. His work blends hip-hop with heart, sparking honest conversations about parenting, marriage, and manhood. His acting credits include CBS’s The Inspectors, ABC’s The Goldbergs, How to Get Away with Murder, and Stalker. Through his viral platform, he continues to inspire families worldwide to lead with empathy, love, and intentional presence. Instagram: @dadgotbars YouTube: @Dadgotbars Spotify: Dad Got Bars IMDB: Brett Green About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing: Massif Studio & Production Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠massifsp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Massif Studio & Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Tallawah Group Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tallawahworldwide.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Tallawah Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Brian Doerksen’s journey is one of faith, resilience, and love. Known worldwide for timeless worship anthems like Come Now Is the Time to Worship, Faithful One, and Hope of the Nations, Brian has spent over 35 years writing songs that carry people through both joy and grief. Behind the awards and global recognition lies a deeper story of brokenness, family, and learning to worship through pain. In this conversation with host Michael Wildes, Brian shares how songs like Hope of the Nations were birthed in the shadow of 9/11, and how Come Now Is the Time to Worship emerged during a season of financial collapse and personal struggle. He reflects on the whispers of God he first heard as a child under a ginkgo tree, and how music has remained a river of renewal throughout his life. Brian also opens up about raising two sons with Fragile X Syndrome, staying grounded through decades of marriage with his wife Joyce, and the way community, family, and long friendships have anchored him through an unpredictable creative journey. From writing worship music that circles the globe to creating an album about long love and an upcoming Christmas film, his climb reminds us that beauty can emerge from fragile places. For men navigating identity, purpose, and perseverance, Brian’s story is a testament to showing up with authenticity, staying faithful in love, and allowing God to turn brokenness into something enduring. Chapters 00:00 – Serving the Hurting in Worship 01:00 – Music as Renewal and Connection 03:37 – Early Inspiration Under a Ginkgo Tree 07:21 – Writing Hope of the Nations in the Shadow of 9/11 10:30 – The Collapse That Led to Come Now Is the Time to Worship 15:26 – Faith, Failure, and the Surprise of Obedience 17:00 – Marriage, Family, and Long Love 20:44 – Raising Sons with Fragile X and Finding Perspective 23:20 – Community, Friendship, and Faithfulness Over Decades 28:46 – Hiking as a Metaphor for Life and Clarity 33:13 – Identity, Purpose, and the Calling of Men 39:44 – Encouragement for Worship Leaders in Low Seasons 43:28 – New Projects: The Second Noel and Love for a Lifetime 46:36 – Where to Find Brian’s Music and Tour Dates 47:48 – Final Encouragement: Love, Identity, and Purpose About Brian Doerksen Brian Doerksen is a songwriter, worship leader, and recording artist whose songs are sung in churches around the world. His works include classics like Faithful One, Come Now Is the Time to Worship, and Hope of the Nations. A Juno Award and Dove Award winner, Brian is also the recipient of the Gospel Music Association of Canada’s Lifetime Achievement Award. Beyond music, he is a husband, father, mentor, and creative voice reminding the world of the power of love, faith, and authenticity. Website: www.briandoerksen.com About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing: Massif Studio & Production Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠massifsp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Massif Studio & Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Tallawah Group Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tallawahworldwide.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Tallawah Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jason Khalipa’s journey is one of discipline, brotherhood, and calling. Known worldwide as a CrossFit Games champion and founder of NC Fit, Jason has spent nearly two decades at the intersection of fitness and personal development. But behind the podiums and gyms lies a deeper mission: helping men become protectors, providers, and present fathers. In this conversation with host Teko Bailey, Jason opens up about the men’s community he’s been leading in a parking lot every weekend—workouts followed by coffee that have connected dozens of men who once felt isolated. He shares how physical training is more than exercise; it’s a tool to build confidence, fight back against unhealthy crutches, and reclaim purpose as fathers, husbands, and leaders. From his daughter’s battle with leukemia to his work with law enforcement, Jason highlights how adversity can be met with strength and presence. He also reflects on the role of rites of passage, the importance of taking ownership, and how faith and calling shape his next chapter. For men seeking brotherhood, clarity, and resilience, Jason’s climb reminds us that training hard isn’t just about the body—it’s about showing up for the people who matter most. Chapters 00:00 – The Isolation Men Face Today 01:30 – From Gym Sales to CrossFit Champion 03:20 – Protector & Provider: What It Really Means 04:45 – Playing with Your Kids, Not Watching from the Sidelines 06:00 – Supporting Law Enforcement Through Fitness 07:25 – Breaking Crutches: Alcohol, Porn, and Habits 08:45 – Training Hard as Therapy for Life’s Adversities 10:30 – Building Brotherhood Through Shared Struggle 12:00 – Raising Young Boys with Confidence & Respect 14:00 – Rites of Passage and Western Culture 16:00 – Early Success, Time Management & Family Balance 18:20 – Gratitude vs. Victimhood in Moving Forward 20:00 – Leadership and Taking Ownership 21:30 – The Train Hard App & Future Cohorts 23:30 – Faith, Calling, and Listening to God’s Direction 25:30 – Final Challenge: Go for a Walk Today About Jason Khalipa Jason Khalipa is a CrossFit Games champion, entrepreneur, and founder of NC Fit and Train Hard. With a career spanning competitive fitness, gym ownership, law enforcement training, and community leadership, Jason has dedicated his life to helping men reclaim strength, discipline, and connection. His mission: train hard to protect, provide, and show up fully as fathers, husbands, and leaders. Instagram: @jasonkhalipa Podcast: The Jason Khalipa Podcast Website: www.jasonkhalipa.com Website: Train Hard by Jason Khalipa About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing: Massif Studio & Production Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠massifsp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Massif Studio & Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Tallawah Group Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tallawahworldwide.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Tallawah Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

K-Anthony’s journey is one of faith, family, and perseverance. Growing up in Trelawny, Jamaica, his early identity was rooted in athletics—on track to follow in the footsteps of Usain Bolt’s alma mater. But a near-death experience at age twelve shifted everything. Calling on God for the first time, K-Anthony discovered that life’s true purpose wasn’t about talent or achievement, but about surrender and character. What followed was a transformation: from aspiring agronomist to gospel artist, from struggling student to Juno Award-winning musician, from gifted athlete to a father intent on raising children with honesty, humility, and faith. Along the way, mentors, hard lessons, and even grief redirected his path toward music and ministry. In this conversation with host Teko Bailey, K-Anthony opens up about the challenges of the music industry, the importance of therapy and healing, and how fatherhood keeps him grounded. He reminds us that giftedness is not the purpose—it’s the vehicle—and that legacy is measured not in trophies but in character. For men balancing fatherhood, calling, and faith, K-Anthony’s climb reveals that God’s guidance often comes in detours that lead us exactly where we’re meant to be. Chapters 00:00 – Purpose vs. Giftedness 02:00 – Parenting and Apologizing to Your Kids 06:00 – A Near-Death Experience in Jamaica 09:30 – Losing Track & Finding Music 13:20 – Agriscience Dreams and a New Direction 17:45 – Learning the Business of Music 22:15 – Competition, Creativity & Perseverance 29:30 – Staying Grounded Through Family 33:30 – Encouragement for Fathers in Struggle 37:50 – Trusting God with All Your Heart 39:20 – New Music, Concerts & What’s Next About K-Anthony K-Anthony is a Juno Award-winning gospel artist whose music blends authenticity, resilience, and faith. Born in Trelawny, Jamaica, his story spans athletics, agriscience, and ministry, culminating in a career that uses music as a vehicle to point people to Christ. His latest single Fallen speaks to redemption in the midst of struggle. Instagram: ⁠@kanthonylive Website: ⁠kanthonylive.com About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing: Massif Studio & Production Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠massifsp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Massif Studio & Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Tallawah Group Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tallawahworldwide.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Tallawah Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Martin Blaksker Strømberg’s story is one of sport, family, and transformation. Growing up in Denmark, he found his identity on the badminton court, where competition gave him confidence apart from his older brother’s shadow. But as life unfolded—through military service, teaching, and raising a family—Martin discovered that true leadership isn’t about always having the answer, but about listening and investing in people. His journey into coaching began on the sidelines of his son’s soccer games, where he realized that the most powerful coaching balances technical skill with emotional connection. Over time, he moved from assistant coach to head coach, responsible for youth teams in Denmark’s football federation, and became known for blending mentorship with care for both players and parents. In this conversation with host Teko Bailey, Martin shares how his wife Dorothe’ challenged him to grow as a man of faith, how vulnerability became strength, and how authentic listening reshaped his leadership. For men balancing fatherhood, calling, and faith, Martin’s climb reveals that legacy is built not in perfection, but in presence—being there, listening deeply, and walking the journey with others. Chapters 00:00 – Learning to Listen 04:30 – Identity Through Badminton 10:30 – Becoming a Coach 16:00 – Parenting & Sports 20:30 – Coaching the Whole Person 25:00 – Athletes & Identity Loss 28:00 – Family, Time & Priorities 32:00 – Faith and Transformation 36:00 – The Power of Listening 40:00 – Balancing Push & Rest 41:30 – Vulnerability & Fatherhood 43:30 – Finding Peace in Faith 46:00 – Leadership Lessons 50:00 – Closing Reflections About Martin Blaksker Strømberg Martin Blaksker Strømberg is a Danish coach, teacher, and mentor whose work blends sports, faith, and personal growth. With a background in badminton and years of experience coaching youth football, he is passionate about developing the whole person—not just the athlete—through authentic listening, community, and mentorship. IG: @m.blax About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing: Massif Studio & Production Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠massifsp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Massif Studio & Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Tallawah Group Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tallawahworldwide.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Tallawah Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chase Kauhane’s story is one of resilience, family, and purposeful creativity. Raised on Hawai‘i’s Big Island in a musical household of nine siblings, he grew up surrounded by kani kapila—family jam sessions and songwriting. But at age 14, when his father left, Chase and his brothers faced a defining trial: living in tents while learning construction skills to build their mother’s home on the slopes of Mauna Kea. That season forged endurance, brotherhood, and a deep dependence on God. Out of that hardship came music with meaning. Chase and his brother Carl eventually formed Olelo, a band that draws listeners in with its Hawaiian roots while carrying a message of culture, legacy, and hope. Their songs have found homes in films and shows on Netflix, but Chase emphasizes that music only has power when it carries purpose. In this conversation with host Teko Bailey, Chase shares how timing, patience, and faith—like farming or fishing on the islands—have guided him as a musician, husband, and father. From serving people first in the music industry, to giving back by rebuilding homes in Lahaina after the Maui fires, his story reveals that legacy isn’t about spotlight moments but about building people, ohana, and community. For men balancing faith, family, and calling, Chase’s journey offers clarity: put ohana first, keep business at arm’s length, create space for God to move, and trust His timing. Chapters 00:00 – Farmers, Fishermen & Patience 01:20 – The Birth of Olelo 03:02 – Growing Up by Kilauea 04:47 – A Family of Nine Musicians 05:31 – Writing Songs with Every Sibling 06:56 – Building Mom’s House on Mauna Kea 08:46 – Music with Purpose 10:43 – From Mentorship to Maui Homes 13:31 – Lessons in Timing & Patience 17:13 – Seasons, Rest & Social Media 19:41 – Songwriting as Farming 22:34 – Creating Space for God to Move 25:19 – Reframing Hard Seasons 27:44 – Ohana First, Always 31:18 – Relationships Make the Music World 32:53 – Following Chase & Olelo About Chase Kauhane On Spotify: Olelo - https://open.spotify.com/artist/6lSBO5iwiuH2qFyJoF0KIi Website: https://chasekauhane.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/chase_kauhane/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OLELOmusic About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing: Massif Studio & Production Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠massifsp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Massif Studio & Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Tallawah Group Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tallawahworldwide.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Tallawah Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jacob Anglin’s story is one of endurance, obedience, and deep faith. Born with a serious intestinal disease, he spent much of his youth in and out of hospitals—facing near-death experiences, multiple surgeries, and a seven-year period of chronic bowel obstructions. Yet through every trial, he discovered perseverance, hope, and an intimacy with God that shaped his calling. In this conversation with host Teko Bailey, Jacob shares how those early battles forged his faith, why success is really about obedience and sonship, and how moments of risk—leaving a secure career in California, stepping into foreign nations, and writing his first book End Time Company—opened the door for God to reveal his strategy and governance. From supernatural healing to navigating seasons of transition, Jacob’s journey highlights the courage required to obey God when the outcome is uncertain. For men wrestling with purpose, leadership, or calling, this episode offers clarity: faithfulness and obedience are the true measures of success. If you’re in a season of shaking, transition, or simply asking “what’s next?”, Jacob’s story will challenge you to trust God’s timing, surround yourself with the right brothers, and root your identity in sonship, not assignments. Chapters 00:00 – Prophetic Word & Intro 01:53 – From Illness to ICU Peace 06:18 – Perseverance, Joy, and Healing 10:44 – Nations, Calling, Governance 12:52 – Warfare Abroad & Testimony 17:24 – Leaving the Job: Faith & Timing 21:38 – Hearing God, Risk, Obedience 27:11 – Sonship Over Titles 31:43 – The Book: End Time Company 44:27 – Brotherhood, Mentors, Blessing About Jacob Anglin Book: End-Time Company YouTube: Jacob Anglin About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing: Massif Studio & Production Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠massifsp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Massif Studio & Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Tallawah Group Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tallawahworldwide.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Tallawah Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tony didn’t plan to build a life around surrender. Early in marriage he made a countercultural choice—his wife would stay home—then walked straight into hardship: a father-in-law’s terminal diagnosis, his grandfather’s sudden death, and a long season of infertility. A chance visit to a church meeting in a movie theater opened the door to community and a deeper faith, but old patterns—control, image, the drive for money—followed him back to Miami. The result was shingles in his early 30s, a wake-up call that forced him to ask what God was actually asking of him. In this conversation with host Teko Bailey, Tony traces the long arc from self-reliance to submission: leaving a lucrative real-estate lane, returning to the Carolinas, taking a corporate detour, and finally answering an unexpected vocational call—roofing—where he discovered “marketplace ministry” and the freedom to put God, marriage, and fatherhood in their right order. Along the way he found brotherhood through F3 (Fitness, Fellowship, Faith), re-framed money as a tool rather than a master, and learned to design a family-first life without letting fear drive. If you’re a husband, father, or builder carrying quiet stress, this episode offers clear, tested practices: work on yourself more than the business, prioritize the household before the hustle, and trade control for daily submission—so your faith, marriage, and work can finally flow in the same direction. Chapters 00:00 – Home Over Hustle 01:56 – From Crisis to Community 03:56 – Control, Image & Shingles 06:22 – Wrestling with Calling 10:57 – Infertility to Miracle 19:26 – Money, Identity & Surrender 23:50 – Leaving “Egypt” & Roofing Call 28:28 – Business Peace & Brotherhood 33:09 – Family-First Frameworks 39:05 – Order the Home, Lead with Love About Tony Garay LinkedIn: Tony Garay About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing: Massif Studio & Production Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠massifsp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Massif Studio & Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Tallawah Group Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tallawahworldwide.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Tallawah Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David didn’t set out to become a draftsman. For more than a decade he built custom cabinetry, prizing precision and client satisfaction. Then interest rates spiked, the phone stopped ringing, and he faced a hard pivot—first into commercial sales, then into drafting and building design. What he discovered along the way: the strengths that made him excellent in custom work (detail obsession, perfectionism) could become liabilities when the job required speed, trade-offs, and submission to new authority. In this candid conversation with host Teko Bailey, David traces a deeper journey beneath the career shift: learning to value presence over accolades, stewardship over status, and quiet obedience over external affirmation. He shares a defining season from his late teens—months of spiritual dryness where he chose to keep praying and reading Scripture with no feelings at all—and how those “deposits in the bank” sustained him years later when his wife passed away. If you’re a husband, father, or leader navigating career pressure, identity, and faith, this episode offers clear, hard-won principles for staying present at home, resisting the lure of affirmation at work, and building a reservoir that can carry you through crisis. Chapters 00:00 – Family First, Not Income 01:27 – Meet David: Carpenter to Designer 03:03 – Market Crash & Career Pivot 04:24 – When Detail Becomes Drag 06:26 – Learning Under Authority 15:49 – Fatherhood Lessons from Home 24:29 – Parenting: Don’t Major on Minors 27:03 – Dry Faith: Keep the Basics 39:36 – Success Reframed: Stewardship 43:10 – Choosing Presence Over Pay 48:15 – Not Asking “Why” in Grief 52:34 – Deposits in the Spiritual Bank 1:01:05 – Guard Your Heart & Mind 1:05:51 – A Prayer for the Journey About Teko Bailey Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention. Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@IamTekoBailey⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tekobailey.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Production, Distribution, and Marketing: Massif Studio & Production Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠massifsp.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Massif Studio & Production⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Tallawah Group Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠tallawahworldwide.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Tallawah Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sponsorship Inquiries: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@MassifKroo.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices