Rich Chungong’s (see his bio below) story is anything but linear, and that’s exactly the point. A former professional football player, lifelong gamer, and naturally curious builder, Rich has reinvented himself at the intersection of Web3, AI, gaming, and community-driven innovation. In this conversation, Rich shares how the abrupt pause of the 2020 pandemic forced him to confront a question many athletes and high performers eventually face: What’s next when the identity you’ve always known comes to a stop? That moment of uncertainty became the spark for a deep dive into money, technology, and value creation, ultimately leading him to found Dash In Between, a creative agency helping organizations apply emerging technology in practical, human-centered ways. We talk about: Growing up in Lee’s Summit, MO and chasing the dream of playing professional football Competing and winning championships across Europe, and what life looks like when the game ends How curiosity, not hype, pulled him into Bitcoin, Web3, and digital ownership Why Dash In Between is named after the “dash” on a gravestone, and what that says about purpose and creativity Using Web3 and AI to solve real problems in food access, agriculture, healthcare, and local economies The rise (and fall) of NFTs, and what real utility actually looks like Building platforms like Produce Matrix and KC SMB to support farmers, small businesses, and the 2026 World Cup in Kansas City Why following curiosity beats following passion, and how leaders can better listen, stay patient, and empower teams This episode blends personal reinvention, practical innovation, and big-picture thinking about where technology is headed and how it can be used to create abundance rather than confusion. It’s a wide-ranging, honest conversation about building what matters in the time we’re given.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Rich: As a former professional athlete and lifelong gamer, Rich Chungong has always thrived in high-stakes environments where strategy, creativity, and execution are everything. Now, he has brought that same mindset to the world of emerging tech—building a cutting-edge creative agency specializing in Web3, AI, and game development. At Dash In Between, we fuse innovation, storytelling, and next-gen technology to help our clients craft truly innovative solutions. From immersive gaming worlds with AI integration in the metaverse, digital farmers' markets for easier food access, to using cutting-edge technology for patented medical device creation, our work pushes boundaries and redefines what’s possible.  

Todd Ziegler (see his bio below) has seen the trucking industry from angles most people never do, from stolen loads of six-figure filet mignon to the quiet financial mechanics that determine whether carriers survive or fail. And according to Todd, the biggest issue in trucking isn’t drivers, trucks, or capacity. It’s how long it takes people to get paid and how much it costs them to wait. Todd is a seasoned C-suite transportation veteran and the CEO of TCS, a company using blockchain technology to solve the most expensive and broken part of the supply chain: freight payments. In this conversation, he walks through his unlikely path from law school and commercial real estate to freight brokerage, trucking, and ultimately building a Web3 solution that settles invoices same day or next business day at a fraction of the cost of traditional factoring. Along the way, we cover: Why trucking is a nearly $3 trillion industry that most people don’t fully understand The infamous disappearing truckload of $100,000 worth of filet mignon How factoring really works and why many carriers are trapped in 30–60% annualized interest rates Why the cost of capital, not capacity, is the biggest threat to the supply chain How blockchain creates faster, cheaper, and more transparent settlement rails What it was like being invited to the White House twice and attending the signing of the GENIUS Act Why Todd believes most B2B payments will be on-chain within the next 3–5 years And why truck drivers might be the most underestimated business minds in America This episode blends real-world trucking stories, hard economic truths, and a practical look at how new technology actually solves old problems. Whether you’re curious about blockchain, supply chains, or how innovation really happens on Main Street, this conversation pulls back the curtain.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About ​Todd: ​​Todd Ziegler is a decade-long C-suite transportation veteran. As CEO of TCS, Ziegler is leading a revolution of innovation, making B2B blockchain settlement industry standard in transportation trade finance. TCS settles freight invoices on-chain same day, or next business day, up to 90% cheaper than invoice "factoring." TCS is a main street use case for digital assets that has solved the largest payments problem in North American supply chains - an Industry valued at nearly $3T.

In this December edition of It’s 5 O’Clock Somewhere, Marc Shaffer and I wrap up the year the only way we know how by catching up like old friends over a wide-ranging, unscripted conversation that blends business, life, laughter, and reflection. We talk about the blur between November and December, holiday parties, birthdays, book parties (not book launches), and the reality of trying to slow down during the busiest time of the year (including Jeff's Reiki session). Marc shares what he’s learning through his Acumen peer group, why trusted circles matter more than ever, and how seeing behind the curtain as a financial planner reshapes how he thinks about success, wealth, and priorities. Jeff shares The conversation also touches on: Creating time wealth and why “slowing down” is a serious goal for 2026 Books that are shaping our thinking, including simple sketches that reframe money and meaning Giving back through organizations like Big Brothers Big Sisters and Growing Futures The power of small connections, unexpected introductions, and Kansas City’s culture of generosity Meditation streaks, habits, golf goals, and why being present matters more than being productive New family traditions, travel dreams, and what unplugging actually looks like. As always, it’s a mix of thoughtful insights, honest self-reflection, and a few laughs along the way, exactly what a December happy hour conversation should be. Pull up a chair, take a breath, and enjoy this end-of-year conversation. It’s always 5 o’clock somewhere!   This episode is brought to you by Searcy Financial. Your financial future begins with a simple question: Where do you want to be? At Searcy Financial, we help successful individuals and families through our mission to simplify your financial journey, empowering you to enjoy life and wealth on your terms. The question sparks a conversation that goes beyond numbers, helping us understand what truly matters to you and the kind of financial plan that aligns with your life goals. It also allows us to identify potential challenges and opportunities so we can proactively address them. The outcome is a plan that empowers you to acquire, grow, and preserve your wealth. Searcy Financial is gearing up to celebrate 50 years of service. Don’t miss out on any of the excitement! To sign up for information on Marc’s book, “One for All,” including where to buy and exclusive website content, or to sign up for the Searcy Financial Wealth Matters email newsletter, use the links below: - Marc's Book "One for All": Keep Me Updated! - "Wealth Matters" newsletter: Sign Me Up!   The opinions expressed herein are those of certain Searcy Financial Services, Inc. personnel and are subject to change without notice. The opinions referenced are as of the date of publication and are subject to revision due to changes in the market or economic conditions and may not necessarily come to pass. Any opinions, promotion, endorsement, projections, or forward-looking statements expressed herein are solely those of the author, may differ from the views or opinions expressed by other areas of the firm, and are only for general informational purposes as of the date indicated. Searcy Financial Services, Inc. was not compensated, nor are there material conflicts of interest that would affect the given statement.

Casey Wright’s (see his bio below) career has been shaped as much by people and perseverance as by placements and performance. As President and Owner of Chief of Staff KC, he brings nearly two decades of recruiting experience and a deeply relational approach to helping companies and professionals find the right fit far beyond what an algorithm or job board can deliver. The conversation traces Casey’s journey from a football-playing, piano-playing Kansas kid to leading one of the region’s most respected recruiting firms. Along the way, he shares how personal loss, career-ending injury, and early professional pivots reshaped his view of success, leadership, and work. What emerges is a candid look at why culture matters more than credentials, why resumes still matter but never tell the whole story, and why real recruiting is ultimately about trust, timing, and long-term relationships. Casey also offers grounded insight into hiring trends, age bias, job hopping, the limits of technology in talent decisions, and what both early-career professionals and first-time leaders often get wrong. It’s an honest, wide-ranging discussion about building teams the right way and building a career that fits the life you want to live.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About ​Casey: For the past 19 years, Casey ​Wright has specialized in placing finance and accounting professionals in the Kansas City area. Prior to becoming the President and Owner of Chief of Staff KC, Casey built his career with accounting and finance recruiting firms that operated on national, regional, and local levels—giving him a broad perspective and deep expertise across diverse markets. He began at a multi-billion-dollar national recruiting firm, where he quickly rose through the ranks and earned numerous awards for performance and leadership at the local, regional, and national levels. In June of 2019, Casey took over as the President and Owner of Chief of Staff KC, an award-winning firm serving the Kansas City community since 2011. Under his leadership, the firm has experienced significant growth. In 2024, Chief of Staff KC expanded to a 20-person internal team, moved into a new office with four times the space, and successfully placed professionals at over 200 companies throughout the metro area.

Shannon Nash’s (see her bio below) career doesn’t follow a straight line—and that’s exactly the point. Attorney. CPA. CFO. Board director. Podcast host. Film producer. Zumba instructor. Her journey is a masterclass in saying yes to growth, even when it means rewriting the plan entirely. In this conversation, Shannon shares how growing up between the Midwest and the East Coast, sitting outside law school classrooms as a child, and watching her father blaze a trail into the legal profession shaped her sense of discipline, ambition, and possibility. She opens up about the pivots that changed everything, from leaving traditional professional services to building a global career in corporate leadership, from living as an expat in Switzerland to stepping away from full-time work to support her son during critical developmental years. We talk about: Why career “detours” often become the most meaningful chapters What global living taught her about leadership, culture, and perspective How improvisation, creativity, and even group fitness classes sharpen leadership skills The realities of board service and how leaders actually get invited into the boardroom Her experience as CFO of Wing, Alphabet’s autonomous drone delivery company Why relationships, not résumés, drive long-term career success The inspiration behind her podcast, No Boxes: Just Verses, and why music tells leadership stories better than titles ever could Shannon brings candor, humor, and deep reflection to a conversation that challenges traditional definitions of success. Her story is proof that leadership isn’t about staying in one lane—it’s about knowing when to change course and having the courage to keep moving forward.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About ​S​hannon: Shannon Nash is a global C-suite leader, Qualified Financial Expert, attorney, and CPA with 30+ years of experience at the intersection of technology, finance, and governance. She serves as an independent board director for NetScout Systems, SoFi Bank, and Lazy Dog Restaurants. Formerly CFO of Wing, an Alphabet company, she led global finance and operations for its autonomous drone delivery service. Shannon has also held CFO roles at Reputation.com and Inside Source, and senior finance roles with Amgen and Cumulus Media. She started her career at KPMG and Cooley LLP. She is a 2025 NACD Directorship 100 honoree and one of Silicon Valley’s 100 Most Influential Women, with cybersecurity certifications from MIT, the AICPA, and NYU Law–Nasdaq. Shannon is also host of a new leadership podcast No Boxes: Just Verses, which ranks in the top 10% of all podcasts globally and top 40 in its category, and an award-winning film producer. She holds both a BS in Accounting and JD from the University of Virginia.  

Lori Tauber Marcus (see her bio below) has lived a career many only dream about, 24 years rising through the ranks at PepsiCo during the height of the Cola Wars, followed by C-suite roles at The Children’s Place, Keurig Green Mountain, and Peloton. But what makes Lori remarkable isn’t just her résumé. It’s her candor, her humor, and her relentless commitment to helping leaders build workplaces where everyone can thrive. In our wide-ranging conversation, Lori shares stories from her early days growing up in New Jersey, the lessons she learned navigating high-performance corporate cultures, and why her mornings often start with a Peloton ride and a tube of M&Ms. She opens up about the moment she realized it was time to leave corporate life, the leap into her “portfolio career,” and the joy she found helping others through board work, executive coaching, and keynote speaking. We also dive into: Her decade-long board journey, including Fresh Del Monte Produce and 24 Hour Fitness The origin story of The Band of Sisters, a powerhouse group of former PepsiCo executives dismantling gender bias one story at a time Why language matters, and how subtle micro-moments shape culture more than we realize How she built a career on curiosity, grit, and paying attention to “signals from the universe” The surprising similarities across industries—from CPG to retail to tech Her belief that leadership is less about perfection and more about awareness, intention, and impact Lori brings the perfect blend of insight, experience, and straight talk. Whether she’s talking about the corporate tax, the evolution of DEI, or why she will always be a Springsteen fan, this episode is packed with wisdom and personality. If you’re looking for a masterclass in leadership with heart, humor, and honesty, you’ll love this conversation.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Lori: Lori Tauber Marcus is the kind of leader who’s seen it all from the C-suite to the boardroom, and everywhere in between. She’s currently serving on the boards of Fresh Del Monte Produce and 24 Hour Fitness, and she brings nearly 10 years of experience helping companies navigate major transitions, including CEO changes, mergers, and turnarounds. Before her board journey, Lori held senior executive roles at powerhouse brands like Peloton, Keurig Green Mountain, The Children’s Place, and PepsiCo (where she spent 24 years). She knows how to build brands, drive innovation, and lead with both head and heart. Lori is also a passionate advocate for women in leadership. She’s a co-founder of The Band of Sisters, a group of powerhouse women executives working to dismantle gender bias in the workplace. Together, they co-authored the book "You Should Smile More", which Lori speaks about on stages around the country.In addition to her board work and speaking, she coaches Fortune 500 executives through Crenshaw Associates and still finds time to stay active in organizations like C200, Women’s Forum of New York, and NACD. Lori is a proud Wharton grad and lifelong learner, always exploring new ways to build better businesses and stronger leaders

Lindsay Howerton’s (see her bio below) leadership journey begins long before she coached executives, scaled companies, or became a sought-after fractional COO. It starts with a 10-year-old kid in rural Missouri waking up at 2:30 a.m., layering up against the winter cold, and heading out to tend hogs before school. That grit never left her...it just evolved. Today, Lindsay is a performance coach, operational strategist, and property investor who has helped more than 70 organizations across 35+ industries find clarity, build accountability, and scale with purpose. But her path to leadership is anything but traditional. In this conversation, Lindsay shares: Her farm-to-boardroom journey, including running a 20-sow operation before she could drive. How early hardship, a tough father, and a special-needs brother shaped her resilience and empathy. The surprising launchpad of her career - including Farm Aid, Willie Nelson phone calls, and learning to “sell” by watching strangers shop the meat case. Why Original Juan became her real-world MBA, giving her hands-on experience in sales, operations, and process improvement. Her signature 10-question assessment - including the now-famous “monkey bars question” and how it helps her decode people in minutes. Her belief that business is simple when you understand the skeleton beneath every organization. Honey Hill Property Investment, the company she built with her husband to revitalize workforce housing in rural Missouri and honor the legacy of her grandparents. And the personal mission that drives everything she does: to positively impact one million lives. Lindsay’s story is a masterclass in grit, clarity, and purpose, and a reminder that leadership isn’t about titles or pedigree. It’s about knowing who you are, doing the hard things, and lifting others along the way.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Lindsay: Lindsay Howerton is a performance coach, fractional COO and property investor with a track record of helping over 70 organizations across more than 35 industries clarify operations, scale sustainably and build resilient teams. With a no-nonsense leadership style and a deep commitment to purpose-driven growth, Lindsay brings operational clarity, team accountability and practical systems to businesses that are ready to level up.  She is the founder of a property investment company focused on revitalizing uninhabitable properties and increasing access to workforce housing, particularly in rural and underserved areas like Brookfield, Missouri. Through this work, she blends real estate strategy with social impact, transforming forgotten spaces into opportunity. Married for over two decades and a proud mother of two daughters, Lindsay’s personal values are to respect what you have, grow to your greatest potential and love people more than things. She has traveled extensively with her husband, coached hundreds toward self-discovery and is on a mission to change one million lives through her work.

In this November edition of It’s 5 O’Clock Somewhere, Marc Shaffer and I trade year-end reflections, fresh goals, and a few laughs as we wrap up 2025 and look toward the year ahead. Marc kicks things off with a big reveal of his word for 2026 and shares how health, proactivity, and a soon-to-be scheduled executive physical have moved to the top of his priority list. We talk about the value of choosing a “word of the year,” why intentional planning should start long before December, and the role his long-time life coach has played in shaping his annual reset process. We also cover: The art of simplifying goals and actually sticking to them Why Marc’s assistant Amy might be the MVP of the year The magic of handwritten cards (and how Marc systemizes kindness with SendOutCards) Holiday plans, family photos, and the value of slowing down Books we’re reading from digital assets to leadership Searcy Financial’s upcoming 50th anniversary celebration And the impact of Giving Tuesday, including Marc’s work with Wabash Cannonball This episode is equal parts practical and warm, a blend of goal-setting, personal stories, and the reminder that connection, consistency, and gratitude matter more than ever this time of year. Pull up a chair, pour a glass of whatever feels right… it’s all part of the 5 o’clock philosophy.   This episode is brought to you by Searcy Financial. Your financial future begins with a simple question: Where do you want to be? At Searcy Financial, we help successful individuals and families through our mission to simplify your financial journey, empowering you to enjoy life and wealth on your terms. The question sparks a conversation that goes beyond numbers, helping us understand what truly matters to you and the kind of financial plan that aligns with your life goals. It also allows us to identify potential challenges and opportunities so we can proactively address them. The outcome is a plan that empowers you to acquire, grow, and preserve your wealth. Searcy Financial is gearing up to celebrate 50 years of service. Don’t miss out on any of the excitement! To sign up for information on Marc’s book, “One for All,” including where to buy and exclusive website content, or to sign up for the Searcy Financial Wealth Matters email newsletter, use the links below: - Marc's Book "One for All": Keep Me Updated! - "Wealth Matters" newsletter: Sign Me Up!   The opinions expressed herein are those of certain Searcy Financial Services, Inc. personnel and are subject to change without notice. The opinions referenced are as of the date of publication and are subject to revision due to changes in the market or economic conditions and may not necessarily come to pass. Any opinions, promotion, endorsement, projections, or forward-looking statements expressed herein are solely those of the author, may differ from the views or opinions expressed by other areas of the firm, and are only for general informational purposes as of the date indicated. Searcy Financial Services, Inc. was not compensated, nor are there material conflicts of interest that would affect the given statement.

Dr. Nicholas Comninellis (see his bio below) has lived a life most of us only read about. From treating patients in Shanghai’s charity hospital to serving in war-torn Angola, where soldiers once knocked on his door in the middle of the night, Nicholas has devoted his career to providing care where it’s needed most. Founder and President of the Institute for International Medicine (INMED), he has trained thousands of healthcare professionals to serve vulnerable populations around the world. But his story begins long before global health leadership shaped by summers spent on a tiny Greek island, a father who survived wartime hunger, and a childhood in Parkville, Missouri. In this conversation, we explore: How his multicultural upbringing set the stage for a life of service. What he learned practicing medicine in poverty-stricken communities in China and Angola. The moment a commander told him, “We’ve been watching you,” and how it reshaped his understanding of unseen impact. Why he founded INMED and how it has grown into a graduate-level institution preparing clinicians to serve the forgotten. His newest book, Five Bags of Gold, explores the deeper meaning behind investing time, talent, and resources in others. How classical guitar became his unlikely creative outlet. Dr. Comninellis brings humility, courage, and conviction to every part of his story. This episode is a powerful reminder that compassion in action, not comfort, is what changes the world.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Nicholas: Nicholas Comninellis, MD, MPH, is President and Professor at INMED, the Institute for International Medicine, and practices emergency medicine. He founded INMED in 2003 to advance global health education and service. Dr. Comninellis previously served for two years at Shanghai Charity Hospital, providing care to inner-city communities, and led a healthcare ministry in war-torn Angola for two years. He also taught family medicine and public health for six years at the University of Missouri-Kansas City (UMKC) School of Medicine while caring for patients at Kansas City’s public hospital. He graduated from the UMKC School of Medicine and Saint Louis University School of Public Health and was a family medicine resident at John Peter Smith Hospital. Dr. Comninellis also earned a diploma in tropical medicine from the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research and became board-certified in both public health and family medicine. Among his authored books is Five Bags of Gold – a Modern Parable of Wealth, Responsibility, and Eternal Investment. Dr. Comninellis is a classical guitarist and faculty co-advisor for UMKC Cru. He was honored as the 2009 United Nations Association of the United States World Citizen and the 2015 University of Missouri-Kansas City Alumni of the Year.

Chandra Clark’s story (see her bio below) is one of courage, compassion, and transformation. From raising her three younger siblings as a child to becoming the inaugural President of the Corey C. Griffin Foundation, Chandra’s life is a testament to turning adversity into impact. In this conversation, she shares how her unconventional path from a childhood in Louisiana to leading major nonprofits across Kansas City and Boston shaped her purpose-driven approach to leadership. We talk about: How early responsibility and hardship fueled her desire to serve others. Her love for art, fashion, and creativity and how it shows up in her leadership style. What it means to lead with empathy while navigating rapid organizational growth. How trauma and healing intersect with career development and confidence. Why she believes self-worth and service are the foundation of success. Chandra’s journey reminds us that leadership isn’t about titles, it’s about impact, integrity, and using your story to help others rise.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Chandra: Chandra Clark is a nonprofit executive driven by purpose and mission. For over a decade, she has served in nonprofit leadership by developinginnovative programs, initiatives, and collaborative opportunities in thecommunity to support and advance the lives of underrepresented children,youth and women. She is honored to currently serve as the inauguralPresident of the Corey C. Griffin Foundation. Her previous roles include Executive Director of VHL Alliance, the inaugural Director of Community Outreach for Big Brothers Big Sisters Kansas City, and Founder of Be Loved, a lifestyle brand. As a celebrated speaker, mentor, and life coach, she has been honored toreceive numerous awards and recognitions, including the Young AthenaLeadership Award from the Kansas City Chamber, Rockhurst Faber YoungAlum of the Year from Rockhurst University, Top Connector in Education andEntrepreneurship from the Kauffman Foundation, and Most InfluentialWomen in Kansas City Business from the Kansas City Business Journal.Chandra holds a Master of Education degree from Rockhurst University, aBachelor of Liberal Arts degree from the University of Missouri-KansasCity and is a graduate of the Central Exchange Emerging Leaders program.She currently serves on the board of The Boston Club, and AdvisoryCouncil for the Women’s Foundation of Boston. Her former board and civicengagement include serving as President of the Missouri CareerDevelopment Association, member of the Executive Women’s LeadershipCouncil, member of the Junior League of Greater, and founding member ofthe Central Exchange Young Professionals Council.

Brett Carey (see his bio below) has built his life and leadership philosophy around three cornerstones: faith, family, and endurance. As Vice President of Human Resources at The University of Kansas Health System, Brett draws on lessons from his 25+ years at Hallmark Cards, his dedication to triathlon, and his belief that leadership is less about control and more about connection. In this conversation, Brett shares: How small-town values and faith laid the foundation for his leadership approach. What he learned from Hallmark about aligning people, purpose, and performance. How endurance sports have shaped his mindset for leading through uncertainty and change. The importance of simplifying complexity, whether managing teams or competing in a triathlon. Why trust, humility, and follow-through are the hallmarks of great leadership. We also discuss how he balances family, career, and competition, and why he believes that success on the course or in the boardroom comes down to perseverance and purpose.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Brett: Brett Carey serves as an executive leader in Human Resources, a loving leader in his faith and family, and practices personal leadership in his passion for triathlon. For the past 5 ½ years, he has served as the Vice President of Human Resources for The University of Kansas Health System. As a trusted advocate, Brett is a strategic HR leader with broad expertise simplifying complex situations through holistic thinking, ideation, and execution. Brett works with the Senior Executive Team as well as Physicians and all employees to ensure he is aligning HR strategies with the health system’s vision and mission. Throughout his career, he has been known for developing solutions to align business priorities while leading teams with collaboration and influencing with interpersonal and organizational savvy. Prior to the health system, Brett enjoyed 25+ years with Hallmark Cards, progressing from sales and customer development into and through operational and human resources leadership positions. Integral to his personal and professional ethos is the integration and intersection of competitive triathlon and testing the limits of physical and mental boundaries.

Mark Mears is back on The Corporate Couch to talk about his brand-new book, LOVE@WORK: Creating Communities of Purpose and Belonging for Revolutionary Growth in a New World of Work. In his follow-up to The Purposeful Growth Revolution, Mark makes a bold claim: the key to transforming business isn’t strategy or systems, it’s love. Before you call HR, hear him out. Mark breaks down his new “LOVE” model for leadership: Listen graciously to build trust. Observe generously to invest in others. Value gratefully to show appreciation. Empower generatively to help people grow. We discuss why traditional “command and control” management no longer serves modern organizations, the importance of language in shaping community (vs. culture), and how belonging, not hierarchy, creates stronger teams. Mark also shares stories from his hospitality and marketing career, his belief in the “power of four,” and why he’s declared 2025 “The Year of Love.” This conversation is a reminder that putting the human back in human resources isn’t just a nice idea; it’s a business imperative.   Here is the Amazon Link for Mark's book: Love @ Work

What does leadership look like when hierarchy takes a back seat to humanity? That’s the question Minette Norman (see her bio below) has spent her career answering. As the former Vice President of Engineering Practice at Autodesk, she led more than 3,500 engineers across the globe, proving that empathy, trust, and courage can drive performance just as powerfully as process and technology. Today, as a consultant, speaker, and author, Minette helps leaders create environments where people feel safe to speak up, collaborate, and innovate. In this conversation, Minette and I explore: Why emotions are data and how leaders can use that insight to make better decisions. The challenges and rewards of leading large, distributed teams. How her book, The Psychological Safety Playbook, equips leaders to build trust and openness. The lessons behind her second book, The Boldly Inclusive Leader. Why the future of leadership depends on listening, not managing. Minette’s perspective is candid, insightful, and deeply practical. She reminds us that the strongest leaders don’t rely on hierarchy; they rely on humanity, courage, and connection.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Minette: Minette Norman is an author, speaker, and leadership consultant who previously spent decades leading global technical teams in the software industry. She has extensive experience leading internationally distributed teams and believes that when groups embrace diversity in all its forms, breakthroughs emerge, and innovation accelerates. Her most recent position before starting her consultancy was as Vice President of Engineering Practice at Autodesk. Responsible for influencing more than 3,500 engineers around the globe, she focused on state-of-the-art engineering practices while nurturing a collaborative and inclusive culture.  Minette is a keynote speaker on inclusive leadership, psychological safety, collaborative teams, and empathy. Named in 2017 as one of the “Most Influential Women in Bay Area Business” by the San Francisco Business Times and as “Business Role Model of the Year” in the 2018 Women in IT/Silicon Valley Awards, Minette is a recognized leader with a unique perspective. Minette is the author of The Boldly Inclusive Leader and the co-author of The Psychological Safety Playbook.

In this eighth Special Edition of It’s 5 O’Clock Somewhere, Marc Shaffer and I raise a glass to reflect on his whirlwind first month after the launch of his debut book, One For All: How to Systemize Kindness, Grow Your Network, and Support Others Like It’s Your Job. We talk about what he’s learned since releasing the book, from reading his own audiobook (“harder than it sounds”) to connecting with students at KU and Mizzou and maybe even starting a friendly campus competition. Marc also shares how he uses templates, CRMs, and even AI to stay on top of hundreds of introductions and follow-ups, proving that connection and consistency can coexist. The conversation takes a personal turn as we talk about Breast Cancer Awareness Month, the passing of Marc’s mother, and his father’s ongoing health journey. We also dive into the power of one-on-one conversations, why he tracks “friendly coffees,” and how joining peer and faith-based business groups has reignited his sense of purpose. It’s a conversation about gratitude, growth, and the systems and people that make it all work.   Pull up a chair (and maybe a pink shirt), it’s always 5 o’clock somewhere!   This episode is brought to you by Searcy Financial. Your financial future begins with a simple question: Where do you want to be? At Searcy Financial, we help successful individuals and families through our mission to simplify your financial journey, empowering you to enjoy life and wealth on your terms. The question sparks a conversation that goes beyond numbers, helping us understand what truly matters to you and the kind of financial plan that aligns with your life goals. It also allows us to identify potential challenges and opportunities so we can proactively address them. The outcome is a plan that empowers you to acquire, grow, and preserve your wealth. Searcy Financial is gearing up to celebrate 50 years of service. Don’t miss out on any of the excitement! To sign up for information on Marc’s book, “One for All,” including where to buy and exclusive website content, or to sign up for the Searcy Financial Wealth Matters email newsletter, use the links below: - Marc's Book "One for All": Keep Me Updated! - "Wealth Matters" newsletter: Sign Me Up!   The opinions expressed herein are those of certain Searcy Financial Services, Inc. personnel and are subject to change without notice. The opinions referenced are as of the date of publication and are subject to revision due to changes in the market or economic conditions and may not necessarily come to pass. Any opinions, promotion, endorsement, projections, or forward-looking statements expressed herein are solely those of the author, may differ from the views or opinions expressed by other areas of the firm, and are only for general informational purposes as of the date indicated. Searcy Financial Services, Inc. was not compensated, nor are there material conflicts of interest that would affect the given statement.

Claude Silver (see her bio below) is rewriting the rules of leadership as the world’s first Chief Heart Officer at VaynerX. Reporting directly to Gary Vaynerchuk, she’s built a culture rooted in empathy, belonging, and emotional intelligence, proving that leading with heart drives both humanity and performance. In our conversation, Claude shares: The story behind her unconventional career path, from Outward Bound instructor to Gary Vee’s #2. The inspiration behind her new book, Be Yourself at Work, and why it’s a roadmap for authentic leadership. How emotional optimism, bravery, and efficiency can change the way teams perform. Why she doesn’t hire for “culture fit” and what she looks for instead. How to lead across generations with grace, not entitlement. Claude also opens up about her early struggles with self-doubt and dyslexia, how a 93-day wilderness expedition changed her life, and why “being yourself” isn’t a cliché, it’s a competitive advantage. It’s one of my favorite conversations, which is filled with honesty, humanity, and heart from one of the most influential voices in modern leadership.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Claude: Claude Silver is the world’s first Chief Heart Officer at VaynerX, where she’s redefining leadership with empathy, emotional intelligence, and heart. Her mission: create cultures where people feel safe enough to be themselves and brave enough to grow. As a speaker, podcaster, and LinkedIn voice on modern leadership, Claude inspires leaders to lead with humanity and proves that belonging fuels performance. During her tenure, Vayner has scaled from 400 to 2,000 people across 11 countries. She also helped lead VaynerMedia to win Adweek’s 2022 “Breakthrough Agency of the Year.” Claude was once told she “thinks too much with her heart.” Today, she calls that emotional optimism, and it’s her leadership superpower. Her path hasn’t followed a script. Claude founded an outdoor adventure and surf company in San Francisco, became an Outward Bound instructor, and immersed herself in transpersonal psychology, Buddhist teachings, and the study of human potential. Before joining Vayner, she held executive roles at global advertising agencies, including JWT London, JWT San Francisco, and Publicis. Claude has been honored with Campaign US’s Female Frontier Award, Adweek’s “Changing the Game” Award, and Adweek’s 2025 Mother of the Year. She’s been featured in The New York Times, Forbes, Fast Company, Inc., and The Wall Street Journal, and regularly speaks on stages around the world about culture, emotional leadership, and the future of work.    

Kristina and Matt Loftus two of the three co-founders of Rhoback are partners in life and in business. As the first married couple to appear together on The Corporate Couch, they share how a college friendship, a Rhodesian Ridgeback named Bunker, and a camper full of polo shirts became the foundation for one of the fastest-growing activewear brands in the country. In this conversation, we cover: How Rhoback was born during business school brainstorming sessions and inspired by their high-energy dog, Bunker. The early “Under Armour meets Vineyard Vines” vision that shaped their brand (and using ignorance as a superpower). How Kristina learned Shopify, coding, and Photoshop to build the business from scratch while selling gear up and down the East Coast in a camper. The lessons of humility and grit that carried them through tough startup years, including one memorable highway surfboard incident. How they’re building a family, a company, and a culture rooted in partnership not ego. From golf stories with Steph Curry to guerrilla marketing stunts on Nantucket, the Loftuses bring humor, authenticity, and hustle to every chapter of Rhoback’s journey. This episode is a masterclass in teamwork, trust, and building something meaningful together.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   To learn more about Rhoback, Kristina, and Matt: Rhoback: https://rhoback.com/pages/our-story Kristina: linkedin.com/in/kristina-loftus-638a9222 Matt: linkedin.com/in/matthew-loftus-91b92721

Kelly Byrnes (see her bio below) has built a career helping leaders strengthen organizations from the inside out. As the Founder and CEO of Voyage Consulting Group—and a former Chief Talent Officer, professor, and author—she’s spent decades guiding executives through the intersections of culture, leadership, and change. In this conversation, Kelly shares: The surprising lessons she learned from her improv training in Chicago (and how it helps in the boardroom). Why the best leaders still send handwritten notes and how authentic connection drives business success. How her early days at Sprint (T-Mobile) shaped her passion for culture and leadership. Why companies can’t “buy” culture with perks and technology, it has to be built intentionally. Her take on AI’s role in leadership, teaching, and the future of work. From stories about making cookies for coworkers at 2 a.m. to helping executives uncover what’s really driving (or derailing) performance, Kelly blends warmth, wisdom, and wit. She reminds us that culture isn’t an initiative; it’s the outcome of how people treat each other every day.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Kelly: Kelly Byrnes is the Founder and CEO of Voyage Consulting Group, helping leaders strengthen their organizations through culture and talent strategy. A former Chief Talent Officer and MBA professor at Rockhurst University, she's advised 75+ organizations and coached 200+ executives. Kelly co-founded Culture Matters, hosts the Leadership Book of the Month broadcast, and recently released The Basics of Gen AI: The Essential Guide for Business Leaders and Professionals. Her work has been featured in Harvard Business Review, The Wall Street Journal, and Forbes. She was named one of the region's Most Influential Women and inducted into the Kansas City Business Hall of Fame.

In this bonus edition of The Corporate Couch, recorded live at the Heartland Digital Asset Exchange conference, we explore the intersection of blockchain and traditional finance. Join us as we delve into the insights of seven distinguished leaders in digital assets and Web3, including: - Esther George, former president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City - Danny Baer, Director of Wealth and Asset Management at Meanwhile - - John Squire, General Partner at Blockchange Ventures - Anthony Bassili, President of Coinbase Asset Management - Michael Cantu, Managing Director of Stellar Forge Capital - Gary Cardone, Managing Partner of Card1 Digital Ventures - Heidi Lehman, Founder of Heartland Digital Asset Exchange. Discover how these pioneers are shaping the future of finance and what it means for the average investor. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion on innovation, regulation, and the evolving landscape of digital assets.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on improving your culture, increasing employee engagement, and retention with you. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.

Some companies are born in boardrooms. Others, like Bungii, start over beers at a college bar. Ben Jackson (see his bio below), co-founder and CEO of Bungii, was a college senior at Kansas State when he and a friend came up with a simple idea: “tap a button, get a truck.” Nearly a decade later, that idea has grown into a breakthrough last-mile delivery platform dubbed “DoorDash for big and bulky items.” Under Ben’s leadership, Bungii has expanded into more than 90 major U.S. metros, forged partnerships with Walmart and Best Buy, and earned him recognition on Forbes 30 Under 30 and as an Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year. In this episode, Ben shares: How a text from a friend, a beat-up Ford Ranger, and a "Nancy" cocktail in Kansas State's Aggieville started it all. The painful (and hilarious) early lessons of raising capital and building an app from scratch. How COVID nearly crushed the company and how quick thinking and grit turned crisis into growth. Why he believes persistence and curiosity matter more than IQ. How he balances being a husband, dad of three, and CEO of a fast-growing logistics company. From the chaos of college start-up life to the discipline of scaling a national brand, Ben’s story is equal parts entrepreneurial rollercoaster and masterclass in resilience.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on podcasting with you. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff. About Ben: Ben Jackson is the co-founder and CEO of Bungii, a last-mile delivery platform known as “DoorDash for big and bulky items.” But instead of a Prius delivering fast food, Bungii sends pickup trucks hauling items like TVs, tires, pallets, and buckets of paint. Under Ben’s leadership, Bungii has secured partnerships with the nation’s largest retailers and logistics providers and expanded into more than 90 major U.S. metros. His entrepreneurial success has earned recognition from Forbes’ 30 Under 30 and, most recently, the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year award.

Greg Hamann’s (see his bio below) story starts on a Maine farm, stacking hay until 11 p.m. as a 12-year-old, and working in his family’s masonry and concrete business before eventually becoming CEO of a precast company. Along the way, he learned the value of hard work, humility, and the importance of thinking before acting, advice passed down from his father that still guides him today. In this conversation, Greg and I dive into: Lessons from leading a company through the 2008–2009 recession and turning it around. Why scaling a business shouldn’t mean “losing your soul” and how to do it differently. The role of Predictive Index assessments in leadership, hiring, and even M&A deals. How generational shifts are reshaping manufacturing and why younger workers value freedom of time as much as money. His new venture, Bison Biocomposites, and how hemp-based products could change the construction industry. From leadership lessons to innovation in concrete (and beyond), Greg brings real-world grit and executive-level insight, reminding us that at every stage, whether you’re baling hay, running a plant, or advising private equity groups, it’s still all about people.   This episode is brought to you by... Ever wish your company updates could be less "quarterly earnings report" and more "late-night talk show"? At Pelaccio & Partners, we're revolutionizing internal communications with podcasts that employees actually want to listen to. Imagine podcast episodes that make your employees laugh while staying informed. Our founder, Jeff Pelaccio, doesn't just create podcasts; he creates conversations that break through the noise. Whether you're a growing startup or a massive corporation, we turn your company's story into audio gold. Leadership becomes human. Remote teams feel connected. Your message cuts through the clutter. Jeff is happy to share his insights on podcasting with you. You can contact him via LinkedIn or schedule a Zoom call via this link - 15-minute call with Jeff.   About Greg: Greg Hamann- entrepreneur, executive advisor, and founder of Truliance Consulting. Greg grew up working on a Maine farm and in his family’s concrete & masonry business, later leading and selling a precast company before launching his own advisory firm. Today, he works with manufacturers and private equity groups on everything from strategy and leadership to M&A and plant modernization. He’s also a board member and co-owner at Bison Biocomposities, a fast-growing green construction materials company pushing carbon-negative innovations into the market. Greg brings real-world grit and executive-level insight to every table he sits at.